[This is the thread to discuss the current corona virus psy-op.]
From Las Vegas, Pittsburg, Thousand Oaks to Russian Collusion and the Khashoggi assassination, false-flag hoaxes, conspoofacies, fake murders and other manufactured events are running non-stop around the world and around the corner.
A reader wrote in to suggest opening a comment section devoted to discussing current (faked) events. I thought it was a good idea and would provide a place where people could chime in on what’s going on in the news and even offer evidence for why they think the event was faked, hoaxed, manufactured, etc. (or why not). Have at it, unless you think it’s a waste of your time–in which case, don’t!
Cutting Through the Fog 
This Is Making Us SICK! – The Connection Between STRESS, TRAUMA & DISEASE | Dr. Gabor Maté
in conversation with Mark Hyman MD
commenter: At least we’ve finally arrived at the point of calling out the century-long inadequacies of Rockefeller medicine.
Probably Pfizer/BioNtech etc are Rthschild/Rckefeller agents.
This I read somewhere today. I am not sure, but it seems so logic. Chandra
The BioNtech saga to me seems fabricated. Pfizer had been involved in dozens of courtcases for malpractice, blackmail and fraud. By 2020. And so were many of the other US drug labs.
For the intended plandemic and to reassure the more educated, critical professionals and public, there needed to be fresh faces. And another company name. New science. Another country too. Reliable Germany ie.
January 2020 a Turkish/German couple Özlem Türeci (wife) and Uğur Şahin (husband) appeared onthe stage. Unknown but succesful medical doctors and researchers. In april 2020 they already received the Axel springer price for their miracle BioNtech gene mix ‘vaccin. In an empty hall because of lockdowns. (Springer is spooky).
Rags to riches: from immigrant children to succesful medical researchers. With their own firm/factory/lab. Busy to find THE solution to cancer. Not just working but dedicating their lives to special cancer medicine.’They produced ‘Custom Made’ medicine for the rich. Very expensive. This couple (acc. to wiki) had scraped 14 billion $ with this ‘charity work’ in 10 years.
On a January morning 2020 Özlem and Ugur realize that a huge pandemic will sweep the earth. And that they probably can solve that problem. (What? )
BioNtech was succesful in their high tech cancer niche. Or so they claim. And then switch over to develop vaccins? Against a virus. Is that like a dentist doing open heart surgery?
Without any real test results they contact Pfizer in april 2020.
I do not believe this story line.
Also: the happy couple looks uneasy most of the time.
Somewhat tormented.
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“Busy to find THE solution to cancer.”
This is an obvious red flag because it is so like practitioners of orthodox medicine to be on the hunt for THE one solution for terminal diseases that only the institution of heroic medicine can discover. This is especially rich irony in view of the historical record of THE medical institution using police-state authority in figuratively burying “killing”multiple cures for cancer during the early to mid-1900’s, while also helping to bury the discoverers.
Rife & Gerson were well before my time. For that reason it’s probably easy to dismiss their works as cancer cures woo woo. W. Donald Kelley happened during my time but well before the Internet era, and by the time he wrote & posted The One Answer to Cancer, he was an angry & somewhat broken man, which of course makes it easy to dismiss him as a bitter crackpot. Nonetheless, his The answer is quite simple to get one’s head around; systemic metabolic disfunction, usually involving the Pancreade, which has been ongoing for 3 or more years before institutionalized medicine is even able to diagnose “you have cancer” by way of finding a tumor by Xray, which the institution associates as one and the same with cancer.
Kelley was among many to realize a tumor is merely a symptom of the aforementioned metabolic disorder. Rife was possibly the first ( or maybe Bechamp by way of hypothesis) to connect cancer to a virus but he also discovered the pleomorphic nature of viruses & bacteria ….. more woo woo, of course 😅.
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@ chandra2021, These people advocate the usage of psychedelics for different therapies.
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Trippin as a modality for cancer therapy …. Timothy Leary where are you?
This just in: “BOSTON(AP) —Uncle Joe Biden has a new national purpose …..ending cancer ‘as we know it’ by reducing fatalities 50 percent over the next 25 years ….. experts say objective could be attainable with adequate funding.”
Imagine, the cancer industry, which has been mining trillions of dollars over the decades out of the pockets of their consumers – statistically, upwards to 90 percent of whom die, miserably, from orthodox cancer treatment – has the nerve to theorize have that Grampa Simpson’s vision could be realized with adequate funding. I suppose that if Joepa were to redouble his efforts to force COV vaccinations upon the masses, this effectively would reduce death by cancer treatment by 50 percent or more, because chances are good that people will start dying much sooner than they would otherwise if they avoided the vacc and just waited to die from the chemo/surgery/radiation ‘the cut, slash & burn trinity of modern medicine’s model for cancer”.
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Nice, another trillion or two qualitatively eased out of the treasury and into Phoenician coffers, with nothing to show for it.
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@Chris…which people do you mean? Gabor and Mark?
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@ chandra2021, Yes. Starting @ 7:50 {hit me as a red flag}.
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@chris: Indeed…I hear him say it. But it is one remark in a long conversation about inside investigations and many different ways of approach. You may be right about red flag.
I am not so sure.
Inquisitive therapists have a tendency to experiment on themselves. More than average people.
Also: we live under unnatural conditions with much stress.
Then rough remedies are applied.
Preferred natural healing seems not always sufficient.
Imo a sign of the times.
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Funny, since that doctor is also not looking well. Physician, heal thyself!
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I found this animated gif of the Artemis rocket being trundled out:
“https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/4JnX3c9HmvhGjoYqmsDtMD-1920-80.gif”
Make of it what you will.
If you want to see the individual frames you can use this site to do that:
“https://ezgif.com/”
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Strange things happening here
In 72 hours:
392 temptations to post a reply
47 actually published
353 deleted or spamed or pending.
I’ve seen message number jumps from a little to 10-12-31-24-20-14-12-30-30-35-49.
Only 12% of the messages reach the end (1 out of 8).
Of the 214,000 messages created in 5.5 years here at CTTF 27% made it through (1 in 4).
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THE BLACKOUTS
September 15
54 messages jump between between Jared (sep 15) and Suntzu (31+24 – I disappeared) —-> 8 HOURS BLACKOUT
20 David > Philip 2 HOURS BLACKOUT
30 Chris > Miles —-> 5 HOURS BLACKOUT
September 16
30 Gijs > Dent —-> 4 HOURS BLACKOUT
35 Dent > gerry —-> 6 HOURS BLACKOUT
September 17 – Right now !!!
49 rolleikin > gijs —-> 7 HOURS BLACKOUT
31 drew > tottentof (me) —-> 4,5 HOURS BLACKOUT RIGHT NOW
The blackouts are accelerating !
@All of us: copy this message if you see it and republish it please
THEY don’t want us to support you Miles. Lot’s of people are trying to get through to you right now but can’t.
Happy birthday Miles. I wish you health and pleasure for many many years to come.
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Advice @all for this special day
Make simple replies to make sur you come through.
Or even better: in your (natal) language, maybe the robots don’t know foreign languages very well.
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tottentof, you ask for it.
Kære Miles,
Jeg ønsker dig tillykke med fødselsdagen og håber du får 100 mere, da vi har brug for dig nu og i fremtiden.
Hav en dejlig dag med kattene og muserne.
Tak for alt dit arbejde.
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Happy birthday Miles.
May your days be bright and happy and full of health.
Also: today/at this moment there is a large international conference on health in Vienna (Better Way etc.).
By medics exposing the Covid scam.
Sharing their experiences and showing real data.
Josh is on the last panel:
The role of Big Pharma in future world health.
That panel starts at 16.30 mid european time.
Is that 10.30 EST?
Please check for yourself if you are interested
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Wow, they play Happy Birthday by Stevie Wonder and cut a huge birthday cake at this conference now. In honor of Miles Mathis?
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Extract for an email from Josh.
Josh is in the last panel that starts at 4:30pm Central European Time, 10:30am EST (10:30 am New York). Josh is going to be talking about some of his analyses of the Pfizer clinical trial.
Livestream link:
https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/newsroom/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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Happy Birthday Miles. Thanks for sharing your Art with the world.
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Meet the Master here.
http://www.efilism.com/ds/dp300.html
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Nice try, but that’s an Intel actor pretending to be Miles. See his Update post on 8/25/16:
“ANNOUNCEMENT, added 8/25/16, some of my readers have been confused by a guy on youtube with a channel called DraftScience. They think that is me. It isn’t. He links to me and discusses my stuff a lot, apparently, although I haven’t watched more than a couple of minutes. I don’t know him, have never talked to him, and have no links to him. Although there is some resemblance, since he is about my age and blond, that is about it. His hair is much longer and less curly, he doesn’t sport a goatee, and he smokes. I don’t. “
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That was ‘the master’, only heavily remastered, maybe? The Langley Mix videos…
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@ Philip Cox, I can see why Miles couldn’t watch more than a couple of minutes worth. I couldn’t either. He just mumbles about a lot of stuff.
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Wtf
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Do you really read the papers? Peruse the website?
There are plenty of pictures of Miles in updates.
That video is old as fuck. Does that really look like the dude who just wrote about EXPANDING YOUR THOUGHTS or the guy who wrote about dreams?
Is Josh saying anything even close to Miles when he has the floor on these panels?
Bitch slapping pharmaceuticals is not really a new thing.
Calling the virus a huge lie & exposing it all as a huge Mass Manipulation would go FAR! People would not be getting a shot for a lie.
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How could you think that ghoul is Miles?
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When I tell my friends, neighbors or family about Miles and encourage them to learn more about Real Science, Real History, Real Art, Fake governers, Fake deseases etc. they often go to youtube and search for Miles Mathis to see him. It’s a human reflex. They inevitably come across this clown and if they tell me about it. I have to undo the first image they have of Miles. I even warn them in advance but some damage is done.
We all know it is not Miles. That’s why I had the idea of the hologram introduction of the Great Miles Mathis Encyclopedia.
Introducing Miles here in France is very difficult, most of them are very, very bad in English. So I try hard to translate the most inspiring or accessible articles first.
(Right now I’m wondering if I can buy one of his paintings and have it shipped here to France and show it to everyone who comes to my house.)
I even know what I have to do and can do when my health no longer allows it and I’m bedridden (hopefully not before 2040) – TRANSLATE MILES MATHIS
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Philip, I had no idea this was not Miles, so I was not trying anything. So who is this guy. Gary InMendham, Gary Mosher?
I saw on that page Miles name and a cat, so I fall into the trap.
Josh, please just delete the post/video of Gary.
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That’s a real weird move, Thomas! I found most of your posts quite sophisticated & interesting, but this is so off….
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Happy birthday Miles!! So you’re a Virgo. Not to push astrology / gnostism, but…: Virgo’s are strong in details, and as they say: the ‘The devil is in the details’, or also “Le bon Dieu est dans le détail”
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I noticed that YT has suggested to me a bbc stream of QE2 (the broad, not the boat) lying in state. Since it says “Live Stream” could that mean in fact that she hasn’t really passed? Or should that properly be labelled “No-Longer-Live Stream” ? Haven’t watched it but from the thumbnail, sure is a lot of purty purple everywhere.
Bring your own bier.
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I tried to send birthday wishes to MM but my messages get lost
Grrrrrrrr
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Attempt the Second…
Happy Birthday Miles — thank you for sharing your Art with the world.
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Attempt the Third…going backwards and forcing the duplication message aint working this time 😀
Happy Birthday to Mr MM — thank you for sharing your Art with the world.
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Attempt the Fourth…oh nevermind 😉
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Thanks everyone for the kind wishes. Except Thomas, who can’t possibly expect us to believe he thought that was me. My warning against that guy is posted right at the top of my updates page, and has been for several years. Plus, my picture is on my homepage, and that links to dozens of pics of me. I look nothing like that guy. Then there is the recent Brad Pitt paper, already controversial in its own right, where many more recent photos of me are posted.
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I think he really made a mistake and not on purpose. He wrote a nice Danish message for you, Miles.
So let’s both have a beer and a piece of cake…
Miles, you must blow out the ….59 candles. And yes we all get older.
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Give Miles a “big hug” by sending him a few bucks or buy his books. So its easier for him to write his articles for our education, inspiration, awakening, elevation and legacy and to feed his cats.
I have the 4 of them. I talking of books. They were hard to get to France but it is worth the try. They are excellent.
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Damn, I can’t comment again.
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You were saying 😉
Yeh, it is completely random now.
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Let’s try short sentences. Take three. Does ak!smet catch lots of trolls?
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Okay, why can’t regular writers be flagged as okay like J@rred and G&rry seem to be? It is interference as t0ttentof thinks? To keep M!les isolated?
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Irony.
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Lestrade’s new paper skewered the Nip cannibal myth, and coincidentally I was perusing maps today and scanned over to Miles’ new stomping ground, and a place name nearby caught my eye: Donner Pass. So…. Was the Donner party incident fake?
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One more short comment. I think truthers have been so fkd up by PN CO BS that they no longer recognise truth. Over on t&legram, truthers don’t believe someone like M!les could exist. Their true north has been misaligned and they are lost.
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Those aren’t truthers they are bots or agents.
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What can be done about agents? I might be fighting a losing battle but I am determined to go on regardless. There will be one true believer on telegr@m! As God is my witness! And all that. Haha. I will prevail. 😁
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Never feed the trolls. Ignore them.
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@Wayne
Thanks, I am starting to realise that they wear you down.
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Happy Birthday Miles!
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When the dust finally settles
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Happy birthday, Miles. Thank you for your amazing, awe inspiring work. It is pure light; priceless. All the best to you. You are already victorious. May you finish them off.
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This will knock your socks off.
@Raymond D it isn’t random. We are cut off when we rush overhere. WE ARE SUPPRESSED
September 15 —> 17h58 of Total Blackout (3+1+2+9+2+1)
September 16 —> 15h33 of Total Blackout (2+1+6+4+3)
September 17 —> 17h45 of Total Blackout (1+1+1+2+2+1+5+5)
September 18,6:21AM Total Blackout 6h07 (2+1+3 hours)
I think Josh is paying for a simple on/off switch when we rush over here.
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He’s got data. Nice one.
“Hudson may be right”
But are you reading too much into the statistics. Where’s Josh? 😉
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Not only is that false, it’s also preposterous. Josh wouldn’t have to pay for any such thing on his own site. If he wanted to shut it down for any reason for any length of time (which he clearly has not), he would just do so. There was no blackout. Nobody rushed, and there was no “overhere”.
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Tottentof, what is a total blackout?
I could post a short comment but a longer one went to moderation. Do you mean a blackout from posting for all these hours?
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Yes, the numbers between paranthesis are the laps the time (in hours rounded by me) that no reply is coming through.
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Perhaps noone is writing any comments at those times? I don’t really understand how you are getting them, maybe someone else does… but anyway, you care, so that is important. It’s all about supporting Miles.👍
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This guy is just pissing in the wind, here. His comments make no sense.
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I know, I know a spreadsheet is a very simple TOOL, initially I was just writing somes notes, dates, ‘#comments’ and it’s growing into a monster. I know their are powerful forum tools but I don’t have them nor do I know how to work with them.
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I couldn’t post simple posts, with or without links, many times, and I know others experiencing the same thing.
Even you surely had noticed this @Jared:
You posted #comment 213519 sep.15 3:23AM
Suntzu posted #comment 213574 sep.15 11:56AM = 8,5 hours !
I was in between at #213550, I have seen my post overhere but it vanished. When this happened I liked to investigate.
For a f-cking eight ours and halve no one got through (spam and posts)
So you are trigering this ? This is beyond stupid (not you, Akismet).
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I never accused Josh. He wasn’t even here. He was talking at the conference in Vienna ‘Better way’. I saw him and he was doing a very good job.
But Josh is paying at least 99.99$ to Akismet.
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“I know their are powerful forum tools”
Here is the biggest collection in the hole world of Forum Tools their are:
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I don’t get it either. How would you know all this? You wrote a program to post every minute, or you know the way to some statistics lying around at the backyards of WordPress?
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@gijs : I made a spreadsheat. You can see your comment # when you stay 2 seconds on the reply date. Each reply is incremented 1 at the time. I can make a link to the spreadsheet and I send it to Miles.
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If there really are outside forces that can interfere with (hack) a blog or forum, then creating a new Cutting forum might not be worth the effort.
It can’t be that hard for a net savvy geek to figure this out. Is it hacking, or just our paranoia?
Josh? Miles? Is there any objection to someone trying this in forum format?
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Oh, boy. A SPREADSHEET.
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GIGO – First law of computer programs.
Garbage In, Garbage Out.
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If anyone wants a good laugh, take a look at this.
Months earlier, in a discussion about the fraud called CluesForum, I had suggested that Simon Shack looks like a young Adolf Eichmann (eyes, nose, mouth). Well, if you now google “simon shack” and go to images, most images of him have just been gone. And the page is FULL of countless images of random phoenicians wearing very similar glasses (click “see more results anyway” at the bottom of the page!). Glasses that look like the one that Eicmann wore in his (fake) trial in Israel.
Guys, these people are reading us and responding to us. Perhaps even confirming us on purpose. Just LOL!
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@A Spirit: Yes THEY are reading us and censoring all the interesting replies. But we are legion, and they are exhausted so they simply cut of our drive at CTTF several times a day so they can get some sleep.
They can’t stop us. Our overwhelming energy will K..I-L..L them
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In my best Ulster warble…
You can’t stop us on the road to freedom
You can’t keep us, ‘cause our eyes can see
Men with insight, men in granite
Knights in armor bent on chivalry
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@Amanda And now I’m into
mod–
er–
–ation. The next level of cen-so-ring
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Never surrender Tottentof! We’ll beat this ak!smet at its own game. Swords raised, “For Mile’s!” I’m with you buddy. 😄
You have to laugh don’t you. The games they play.
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Happy birthday, Miles. Hope you have a great day and thanks so much for all you do.
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Happy Birthday CIA and USAF, the evil twins.
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The queen was a dwarf:
https://tinyurl.com/2ur38bea
(scroll down)
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@ rolleikin, That would be funny if she really had been one.
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Maybe she didn’t die but just shrank into nothing like The Incredible Shrinking Man.
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Wow, see was, or still is bearing the burden of her sins
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Ha ha… that’s one HUGH Truss. I think the fauxtographs were made using a propped set and edited to illustrate the myth that our royals, in the persona of the frail old mini-queen, have no power. They would like you to believe that our politicians, depicted by the giant Truss, hold the reigns.
The truth is that both royals and politicians are just playing a roll, while the real authors of the Shoaha stay hidden from view. It has always been thus for millennia.
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@Jared: I know you are an ace (not an ass) in computer science.
But I also know that an outsider’s point of view can create very good ideas, theories, etc. And that includes everyone here and elsewhere. Think of Miles Mathis, Josh, Gerry, Grant Genereux, Steven Oostdijk, Lestrade, Nevyn…..
For Those About to Rock (We Salute You). Sorry, I digress.
So why be so cynical and corrosive. It’s rather unconstructive. I can stand it (in life I’m like you). You often make my day. But with all that we endure here it’s a pity and even stupid.
Let no one silence you.
I know it can be rather redundant, but my experience as a mechanical engineer has taught me that it’s better to have a lot of feedback than not enough, even if it’s tedious, tiring, annoying.
And now I’m gone, I need to pee. I get lot of good ideas staring in front of me while peeing, whistling ‘for a few dollars more’. A sort of meditation.
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I don’t really know that I am corrosive or unconstructive. What am I corroding? What am I… deconstructing?
Cutting through FOG in various ways requires various tools, though. Everyone real has various specialties, as we all know and see. Miles has a plethora. Gerry has some keen knives in his translation and language dissection. “Lestat” is hilarious and wonderful to read. Josh is devastating at all times, and humbles me consistently. There are many others, here and elsewhere, that chop through the lies very well.
My main skill is in visual tools and manipulation, and a secondary would possibly be my understanding of physics (orbital dynamics, for example), much of which came from Miles but also from my own studies outside of his scope, or alongside rather. But I really don’t go for “appeals to authority” or attempt to claim expertise for its own sake, I just have a lot more time in the saddle than most since graphics have been my career for several decades. I don’t believe that many of the people crying “CGI” constantly are lying, however – they just don’t have much or any experience in that field, and of course their assumptions are coming from the right place, the right HEART. I just don’t think we need additional fog in those areas since the truth is still the truth, and it isn’t anything to shy away from.
So maybe I do corrode stuff, ‘around here? But that’s what I am trying to corrode, anyway. Misconceptions about how things are done. Maybe I am too caustic about it, though.
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I am still adjusting my word choice from french or dutch. I love what you do here and have done for years.
When I come here (every day) I click first on ‘Miles Mathis’ (‘MathisderMaler’), then ‘Jared Magneson’, ‘Mantalo’ and then the others. Because I know for sure that I can learn new things. (I also forget little by little). Thanks Jared.
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@ tottentof, Yeah, I know what you mean about Jared. I don’t want to heap Folsom praise onto him, but, he’s desperately needed sometimes. As when someone like 3rd door shows up that needs to be dealt with you can count on Jared to intervene.
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Who put you and Jared in charge of dealing with anybody? I have put forward arguments that were only met with Ad homs and personal attacks, even name calling! A truther forum with self appointed harrassment squads is not exactly reflecting well on the participants.
Do you want to clarify how and where I “pushed” convid as factual? The statement doesn’t even make sense, the con IS factual, I’ve posted plenty to support my view on this.
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@ 3rd doorman, Sorry, but yeah, it felt a little weird singling you out. But I was just trying to make a point. On the going viral comments you seemed to be pushing convid in relation to ivermectin. I found it impossible to reason with you as you were convinced that we needed to take a look at ivermectin as a viable alternative to treating convid. I tried to reference a quote from suntzufighting that succinctly put the nonsense of C19 and all its treatments it in a nutshell, but you just brushed it off as being false. Anyone can go over there and read the comments, I’m not making it up. I felt that the whole back and forth over ivermectin was just a stupid wrestling match designed to waste everyone’s time.
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You didn’t answer the question, who put you or Jared in charge of “dealing” with anybody? “he’s desperately needed sometimes. As when someone like 3rd door shows up that needs to be dealt with you can count on Jared to intervene.”
What is desperately needed, you seem to say, was someone to step in and stop a stupid wrestling match? Jared nor you make this claim in that thread, that I “pushed” some part of convid as factual wrongly. You were free to do so. I didn’t bring up Ivermectin, I was adressing a statement poo poo’ing it that runs parallel to a massive maimstream disinfo campaign. “dealing” with a post, not a poster. Should I just Ad hom the poster, call them silly, harass and even snipe them months later in a completely unrelated topic because I believe they once posted a “pushing” of disinfo or misdirection? Josh prohibits that.
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@3rd Door Down: And yet, here you are, popping in to “snipe” and waste everyone’s time yet again.
“Nothing is true; everything is permitted.”
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Chris made two comments disparaging me, both offtopic, both referring to some past series of posts and how I need to be dealt with. Only then did I step forward and defend the idea that nobody put you or he in charge of dealing with anybody. So you characterizing me as sniping is ludicrous. I’m dealing with Chris’ comments directly, there is no hiding and sneak attacking from myself.
Miles Mathis said to you: “You are both embarrassing yourselves…. You are driving other commenters off and wasting everyone’s time driving around your litter.”
Have some self-reflection Jared, its just sad to see you project your own behavior onto me. Josh has rules for this place, not everything is permitted, and that is a statement of truth.
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@ 3rd doorman, As I said, I’m sorry for singling you out, but I was trying to agree with tottentof’s sentiment is all, while maybe giving a bad example of someone that could be dealt with. Okay? Also, it would help your cause if you could admit that you were wrong. It can be tough, I know. It’s not an easy thing. Again, I’m sorry, but yeah, I AM holding things against you related to the whole fakodemic and it’s fake treatments. Do I really have to quote you word for word IN QUOTATIONS while rehashing the whole thing?? I’m not doing that.
Look, if you’re believing a lie, how are you going to know that you’ve been deceived?? Sometimes you can be holding onto a lie and not even realize it. I’ll give you an example: When Miles exposed the whole tranny thing, in a pdf, it really brought clarity. But, there was still a small part of the deception that seemed like it added up. I’m talking about the claim that a woman’s index and ring fingers are a different length than a man’s. It sounded and seemed right. But it’s not. At least not totally. Yet, I never thought to prove it out. I simply accepted it. And, I ended up being dumbfounded because of it. I never saw it coming because I was blinded by it.
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“@ 3rd doorman, As I said, I’m sorry for singling you out, but I was trying to agree with tottentof’s sentiment is all, while maybe giving a bad example of someone that could be dealt with. Okay?” NOT OKAY, getting my meaning yet?
You keep apologizing for singling me out, but that is a strawman, I’m not objecting to being singled out. You didn’t slip up and use a bad example (me), another strawman I have no sophisticated concerns about. Why do you keep insisting you and Jared are “desperately” needed and have some authority to “deal” with anybody on this forum?
Try to stick to dealing with actual posted statements, its obvious strawmen fallacies are weighing down your arguments/thinking here.
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“Also, it would help your cause if you could admit that you were wrong.” quote it guru, I don’t have to deal with you to talk about Ivermectin in the going viral thread. Don’t say another word on this topic (IVmectin) until you can quote me precisely where my statements were “pushing convid as factual”. There are only like 2-3 pages in the going virual thread, your laziness has wasted everybody’s time, and your contention I need to admit I was wrong is insulting.
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@ 3rd doorman, Okay? Not okay?? Sure, whatever you say sophisticated ivermectin dude.
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3rd Doorman, literally proving Chris’s point over and over. Hilarious.
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@ 3rd strawman-ivermectin-guy, This isn’t fair. You kids are able to run circles around me like I’m standing still. You and your reindeer games and your debating-for the sake of debating-skills. I just can’t take it anymore, let alone keep track of all the strawmen. And THAT’S why it helps when we have someone who’s willing to engage children, here, at cutting!!
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I’m a kid now? This isn’t even a debate, this is you “singling me out” again, what you just tried to apologize for. With another insulting mischaracterization of “strawman-ivermectin-guy” and telling me I’m a child.
All you have are insults, but then again you can’t even read. the “okay?” was your own statement, I put it inside quotes.
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@ 3rd strawman-ivermectin-guy, And now you’re objecting to me “singling you out” after you said that it wasn’t a problem?? You also said that I didn’t slip up in using you as an example!! So why are you complaining now?? Make up your mind. I don’t understand why you can’t just appreciate Jared instead of disparaging him! Not everyone is willing to do what needs to be done, least of all me. You’ve heard the expression “It’s a thankless job, but someone has to do it”. Show some appreciation for crying out loud and stop beating around the bush. No one appointed anyone. I simply said that he could be counted on. Why is that a problem? Please stop twisting my words around!!
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If you still don’t understand, go re-read. If you want, start a new thread with any further comment you may have. c-ya
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Oh okay, see ya around.
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I add one replie that I got in my mail (1 with link is in mode ration) (2 without link is in mode ration) (3 attempt, added some caracters in some sens ible words -> in mode ration) (4 attempt, without the replie of Jar ed)
wire a truck said (Sept.23 at 07:41am) : see Q.E.D. 3rd door man wasted your time. onto more pressing issues. who what? bernard [link]
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Who is “wire a truck”? I see no message with a “7:41”
To say I wasted someone’s time, this seems odd. Your post started above asks Jared “why be so cynical and corrosive. It’s rather unconstructive.” which is basically the issue I discussed.
Translating Miles into other languages is quite useful, I doubt I’ll be making a contribution as useful so I defer to your opinion here. Am I wasting people’s time? Would YOU stick around and continue to contribute when people just hurl insults? I’m being silenced by their tactics which Josh clearly prohibits. But because Josh is so busy, since before I even arrived, it seems even Miles needs to step in sometimes and make an effort to calm Jared down. He didn’t calm down though, Miles was ineffecive and took the wrong approach calling it a “feud”. Jared called Rollie a reciever of Langley(cia) checks, which Josh has stated is the LAST thing he wants to see here, if we suspect a spook in the forum disrupting things we are supposed to email him about it and not try calling them a spook. Others engage in tactics that run parallel to “the gentlemens guide to forum spies” I’ve seen plenty of it, I don’t think they even realize it, but because they are regular long time posters it seems just tolerated. Josh says if we don’t like it here we can leave, so in a way I don’t expect much change on rules or getting a little enforcement to keep things civil amid fundamental disagreements. Putting Jared in charge of the subreddit for MilesMathis seems to have been unfortunate, its has almost no activity, dying on the vine. Jared should be seeding some of his knowledge about orbital mechanics there, for those interested, but it seems he will just let it stagnate. Meanwhile he is over here pestering you for sharing your collected data. Not okay, in my opinion, corrosive and unconstructive seems spot on.
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@ 3rd strawman-ivermectin-guy, You were actually the one who singled Jared out a few pages back, out of nowhere, telling him that you didn’t want his input, remember??
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It’s just to show that I’m getting more comments on my mailbox that we see pop up here. There was one more from Jared. It wasn’t meant to offend you. I don’t want to and can’t get involved in this debate.
The best thing to do I think is to ignore and go on. There is nothing to gain, nothing to lose either (in reputation).
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Straw Man: “make an effort to calm Jared down. He didn’t calm down though”
Outright lie: “I’m being silenced by their tactics”
Basic AF: “Jared called Rollie a reciever of Langley(cia) checks, which Josh has stated is the LAST thing he wants to see here, if we suspect a spook in the forum disrupting things we are supposed to email him about it and not try calling them a spook.”
Mommy Please: “Josh says” “Josh has stated” ” Josh clearly prohibits” “Josh has stated”
You just cannot keep the J-flavored dicks out your mouth. It’s hilarious.
Paltry jab: “Putting Jared in charge of the subreddit for MilesMathis seems to have been unfortunate, its has almost no activity, dying on the vine. Jared should be seeding some of his knowledge about orbital mechanics there, for those interested, but it seems he will just let it stagnate.”
Who put me in charge? Nobody. Who was active there? Nobody. Why should I be doing anything YOU wish? I would not do anything with my life because some random anonymous dolt wishes it. You contributed nothing there, yet here you are obsessed with me and crying about it. I will “let it stagnate”? It was stillborn from day one and had nothing to do with me. Nobody cared, and you’re reaching back YEARS on that topic just to grasp anything you can to “jab” at me. It’s pathetic, son. You can’t even land a single blow that isn’t a cry for daddy to step in and give in to your tantrum.
I’ve always been calm, here. You’re mad, I’m laughing. That’s how the internet works – rookies get trounced, trolls get dragoned, and nobody cares except the rookies and trolls. The audience, silent or otherwise, enjoys the show or doesn’t – and that’s up to them. Nobody made anyone read this, and nobody is silencing you at all. I mean, you keep popping off, so how were you silenced? Just ridiculous.
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Tonnie: Yeah, there isn’t really a debate here, and I don’t mind that you sit this one out. Sorry to blow up your mailbox. Like I said, Jareds technique of ridiculing your attempt to present data on our posting issues is corrosive to the cuture here.
That the translating work you seem to be spending time on doesn’t earn you a respectful response, is careless.
For instance, a disussion of WHY he thinks your data is somehow flawed. Instead we get the usual hurling of insults; “pissing” in the wind, and irony on a spreadsheet, well corrosive and unproductive describes his approach perfectly.
I myself don’t even want to come here, if its considered trolling to challenge people’s ideas. If it invites an internet cuture of insults, then I’d rather avoid posting here at all.
Chris, when you ask someone a question, you are singling them out, its permitted, its ordinary. Re-read my thread here “https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-163/#comment-212051”
Notice how Jared calls me silly in two ways, and that I’m playing games, but never clarifies what HE meant by silliness that takes up Josh’s time. This is expected behavior from him and was specifically not welcomed.
Miles rebukes Jared: “https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-163/#comment-211404”
And here is Rollie in his own defense, and I agree with him. Its not JUST a feud. So with Rollie’s “verbal abuse” and your comment “corrosive” and “cynical” and my comment of “just insults”, and Miles’ “hauling litter” we have 4 critical depictions of where Jared is in error.
“https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/11/09/current-events-discussion-thread/comment-page-163/#comment-211404”
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Oh boy here we go again…
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Notice how this kid won’t even address me directly, now. Cowed. Battered. Broken. Like a Masky on a hiking trail, ducking and kneeling aside in the dirt to let the real folk pass.
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@ Tonnie, Thanks for the suggestion and for having to bear with all of that in your inbox.
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Josh is still at the conference see: worldcouncilforhealth.org / newsroom /
He to the left sitting down at 7:50. Can he understand german also ?
@Josh: Expose them everything you discovered to reveal the truth
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Yes, this is the question is Josh really packing a punch at this conference?
Aside from calling the shots out as deadly & that Crime Against Humanity.
The virus as we know it is a HUGE LIE, Mass Manipulation!
That was my position from the start.
What’s in a shot is beside the point,
I know not to allow the State to Inject me.
If it was ice cream, I wouldn’t take it.
If people in the mainstream knew it was a lie & a project, they would not be thinking of getting any shots.
Coming out now almost 3 years later to say they are poisonous?
Yeah, NO SHIT! Josh told me, calling the virus a lie was a non-starter!
Virus is a fucking lie, sums it up. No fluff, just a cold slap.
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Lori Vallow hoax for a friend. Has anyone written anything about this anywhere?
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For what it’s worth, I think the science/physics peeps who discover Miles’s genius have a much easier time transitioning to his world view. Truthers who stumble across his papers are pre-programmed by the gurus to be cynical. (I only needed to read a single paper and I was hooked, gurus be damned.) Maybe it is the science sector in business and universities that need to find the courage to lead.
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Alex Jones’ 2nd fake trial:
Click to access jones3.pdf
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I wonder if Jones & corp. are going to hoist the expenses created by their Prison-Basement production over onto their loyal followers by emotionally extorting them to open their purses and give generous donations to save their guru.
While the first 45+ million “bill” only covered production fees – the phony jury, judge, lawyers, the MSM and other actors involved – this second trial could benefit Jones exclusively by producing/issuing (for-profit) ‘final judgement bill’.
It also seems to me that these “trials” are continuations of real attempts of gradual erosion of free speech – easiest way to change legislation under the radar is to perform decades long phony battles in the realm of legal illusion creating make believe atmosphere of forbidden language – meant to eventually “harmonize” the US with globally much tighter censoring in other countries (UK comes to mind, or Saudi Arabia). This orchestrated deconstruction show has still a long way to go, … meaning that freedom of speech in other countries around the world suffers in the long run directly each and every time when/if Americans are swindled into giving up their verbal speak-easy culture of truth-seeking elocution.
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So it is fake lawsuits to keep us quiet and population control to keep our numbers in check. At least we are still free range. Next will it be Smart Cities?
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Where’s Wolfgang Halbig and Judicial Watch when Jones really needs them.
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Is it only me who likes the summer of love declared by Miles?
I have long ago decided that AIDS is just another boogeyman. That was long before I ended up here😁.
I used to overestimate my own fecundity, but Miles has put a rest to that one.
These may be what they would call the good old days sometime in the future. And no, I do not promote promiscuity or approve of it.
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“Is it only me who likes the summer of love declared by Miles?”
No. I, too, applaud this. I take it as the call for the Sexual Revolution which is long overdue. We’ve let these frigid victorian creeps (and perverts) rule over our minds for a very long time. It is time to take our sexuality back.
Personally, I am definitely gonna heed the call.
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Well nobody ever took it AWAY. Sure, the Tyrants and their cryptid Langley-boys do all they can to make us feel broken, dissolved, and powerless. But nobody ever took your sexuality away. Nobody can, except oneself.
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@Jared
I like your energetic and polemical style but, at times, it appears to me that you are arguing over details, or for the sake of arguing.
In any case, I think you are wrong here. It is not so much about personal responsibility. When you are very young and you are being bombarded from 20 different angles with advanced psychological warfare, it is very hard to resist, unless you were a born warrior.
Don’t you think that, in general, they steal our health away? Or would you say ‘no one can take your health away, except yourself’?
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I would say that anyone who is able to fend off propaganda already IS a warrior, born to it or otherwise. We were all young and ALL bombarded constantly, and it was hard to resist – yet here we are. Some of us are still young, and getting better at resisting.
No, they do not “steal our health away”. They ATTACK our health, but that’s not stealing. They don’t transfer it to themselves, not yet anyway. I believe they wish to, and that’s what the Jabs were all about (in my opinion), was testing out systems in which they could alter people’s genetics for longevity or brevity. I do think the Tyrants wish to achieve eternal life, or some farcical, perverted aspect of it.
But yeah, our health IS up to us and always has been. This is true of all life, not just humanity.
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I’m with Spirit here. If they are making a profit by attacking our health there is a kind of stealing. I’ll mention circumcision produces tissues that end up in the facial cream market, cord blood, that is now proven the baby benefits from and needs, used to be more routinely clamped, harvested and profited from for stem cells. Even wisdom teeth removal produce tisses for sale and may be unecessary. Blood “donations” support an entire industry of storage/transport/transfusions that is not “donated” to patients who “need” it. Organ donors are declared brain dead, when really nobody knows if such a patient will recover, I could go on but its gets really grim. In Japan I’m told there is no “brain death” category that enables it all. It may not be legal theft, but then making a donation under complete ignorance and even lies by health practitioners is hardly just an attack on health, actual profit is generated.
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@Jared regarding “AI”
https://ibb.co/N9F0CnT
Thanks for all the insights. I now have a greater respect for CGI and painting. I hope your Art is responding to your efforts!
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About the AI argument….. does it exist? …. do we have IT ? , ive had doubts about the notion of computers attaining “intelligence” since the late 80’s when i first heard the term …. ive always thought of this as a misnomer but given the way basic cpu design “executive functions” somewhat mimics the human brain it might be easy for some people to take the implied leap.
More recently, it has occurred to me that if there really is any actual artificial intelligence to speak of, perhaps it is by way of IT – computers – being used to mimic or fill the more tedious roll of spook behavior …. artificially doing some of that kind of work – information technology – so that the human spooks have more playtime while the computer spooks crunch the numbers on the formers’s ongoing or future projects ….. ?
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The state of AI until recently:
https://gizmodo.com/darpas-almost-impossible-challenge-to-reconstruct-shred-5865025
Thought they could do this for decades, but it seems DARPA needed outside talent.
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Within gaming, “AI” was just a reference to how well (or not) the computer opponent was programmed to challenge the player; it was never about sentience or human-like learning. Thus you have a remastered Age of Empires sequel that that human player tactics programmed into the computer players actions.
Within “Cognitive Science”, at least during the 1990s, “Artificial Intelligence” referred to using the computing model as an “analog” to the human mind, i.e. using computers to gain a better understanding of the mind works (at least according to the old book I dug out of the attic).
So I see at least three “traditions” behind the term “artificial intelligence”. Of course the mainstream meaning is computers thinking and acting with a will of their own, which is complete bollocks.
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“Thus for example you have a remastered Age of Empires sequel that has expert human player tactics programmed into the computer player actions.”
I butchered that sentence. Jeez. Retention, Off.
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If I could only get back the time I spent playing that game on Microsoft Gaming Zone. Each game took about 4 hours, and you still had to hunt down the last villager if you wanted to officially win and the game to conclude. I thought players were Bots since the same screen names were always on there. or millionares with nothing else to do.
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@Greg , same here. Some of the mods were fun, though. I remember one where instead of knights there were Mustang Cobras shooting bullets.
I almost escaped the 4X time sink until I discovered Paradox Interactive. I think I have almost 1000 hours in Stellaris alone, although much of the time I’m task-switching to work and regular surfing. I’ve done much better this year, only playing a little Civ6 once or twice a week.
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How to publish for (almost) sure.
1 Refresh the display
and put spaces around the “\”
2a No link(s)
2b If link : remove https and
3 No swear words except in disguise
4 If it still doesn’t work don’t insist – refresh the display and insert ‘reply’ at another level (up or down in the thread) or in another thread altogether.
5 If it still doesn’t work, take a hammer…. or come back in 3 days when you’ve forgotten what you wanted to say and nobody cares anyway.
And that’s ONE of the reasons why I’ve seen long periods of ‘blackouts’ and there are people trying to post.
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Also, if it’s more than a couple sentences be sure to copy and paste somewhere before posting, just in case you write a novella and it gets dumped to moderation.
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Akismet appears to catch a dozen or so spam messages an hour so imagine them in your mailbox. It is a necessary inconvenience to be thwarted.
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Unless those comments are all ours. 🤔 Hmmm, Houston, we may have a problem.
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What really sucks about the pdfs is that the links included are quickly scrubbed or altered. It would be nice to have more screenshots or archived copies so that future readers would have a chance to see them before they get memoryholed. The videos linked in sh3 are both gone now.
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@ Lio, What’s sh3?
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Chris, Miles Sandy hook paper from 2013 I believe. Moreover, there used to be so many good conspiracy videos on Sandy hook that are all gone. My favorite was gene rosens rehearsal video. Lol.
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@ Kevin MURPHY, Thank you for that. Yeah, I remember all those vids. Not to mention all of the Vegas shooting vids of people who were supposedly wounded but were already out of the hospital talking and laughing with reporters.
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I think this was the plan for Sandy Hook all along. It was conspiracy bait with deliberately planted goofs and clues. That’s why they called it Sandy HOOK.
That’s also probably why many of the videos are gone now. They laid down the rug and then pulled it out from under us.
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The Space Farce now has an anthem:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLIOEbUyeXo”
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They should have used Brian May’s “Starfleet” ans substituted “Space Force.”
Send a message out across the sky
Alien raiders just past Gemini
Who will come and save us now?
Who can defend us from the power?
Space Force, Space Force
Space Force, Space Force
Tell the people back at Earth control
Send Space Force legions to save our souls
Always daring and courageous
Ooh Only they can save us
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I think this would be a more appropriate theme for our rulertards
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Wow, that’s one you can really tap your toe to while spacewalking and hum along to. Sadly, as Hollywood reminds us, in space nobody can hear you hum.
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The composers are Azerak y Federico Arango, which is anagram for
“Oi! A zany, fake cadre? Roger!”
Of course, nobody here in the US says “oi!” but there again, nobody’s going to space either, so…
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Disappointing to hear that no one in the US of A says ‘Oi!’, Michael. Perhaps you could be the one to introduce its use. ;o)
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Not even say ‘Oi vay?’
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@Lewis: Absolutely not, except ironically. We say, “Oh, boy!” because that’s the language.
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@Jared
That was another joke.
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Oh mannnnn!
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Those not familiar with the Southwestern Pennsylvania variant of English – Pittsburgh’ese – may not know that there was a dialect that grew out of the mostly-on-Sunday’s commercial culture of the 70’s where in somebody in the US – namely Yinzguys – who often said “Oi!” and in particular “double oi!!” for certain occasions.
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htps://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/double-yoi-myron-copes-journalistic-legacy-explored-at-point-park/
He also “was very proud of being Jewish,” Elizabeth Cope said, noting that her father’s signature “Yoi” is a derivative of “Oy vey.”
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@ drew
Everything I learned about Pittsburgh, I learned from this fine fellow
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@ Me – speaking of Mr R – did he fake his death and get a new assignment across the pond or something?
https://static.standard.co.uk/2022/09/07/10/2022-09-07T084623Z_1942355995_RC28CW9F3UJ8_RTRMADP_3_BRITAIN-POLITICS-LEADERSHIP.JPG?width=968&auto=webp&quality=50&crop=968%3A645%2Csmart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg
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Messed up my picture link first time
No – can’t be same guy, the first one had his hand up his king’s nether region…
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@michael
Fred Rogers was not cut in the mold of the typical ‘Yinzer, but according to Wikipedia, he does have at least one Oy Vey in his lineage; his 6th Cousin, Tom Hanks, played the part of Fred in the movie about Rogers ….another confirmation of the dot Miles has connected time & again.
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Michael, could you kindly refrain from posting filth on this august forum.
(I refer to the photo of the Rees-Mogg monstrosity, aka the ‘Member of Parliament for the 1900s’). ;o)
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@drew Speaking of Tom Hanks, I’ve been wondering if he could be related to Colonel Tom Parker since he just played him in the Elvis movie.
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You are in good company, @ORings. In his paper on Elvis – http://mileswmathis.com/elvis.pdf – Miles remarked that he’s found it difficult to turn up appreciable biographical info on the Colonel. He has hit Hanks on several occasions but off the top of my head, i do not remember the names of those papers.
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Sounds like an outtake from Starship Troopers. Was cut because it was too bombastic even for that. If sung in German would lead to invasion of Poland. The youtube comments are precious. Bless their hearts. What was that thing about the only things that are infinite were the Universe and human stupidity? To infinity, and beyond!
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Space force, eh? The only significant force in space, for purposes of living on this planet:
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“United States Space Force: — anagram for
Pseudoscience-frat’s teat
Stupefaction desecrates
Necessitates dupe factor
Cadets’ reputations: feces
Pretentious cadets’ faces
Space’s cutest federation
Fastest saucer deception
Inspect to defeat saucers
Craft deceptions tease us
I better stop before somebody drops a kinetic on my cpu.
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If you to ~ 19 seconds in on Rolleikin’s original YT link, that logo arguably symbolizes a long covid swab penetrating the stylized schnoz of the whole world.
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regarding the end of Miles paper on AJ and the number 26 about increase in STDs, here is what can be said
26 is a unique number, it is the only one stuck between a square (25) and a cube (27)…
in gematria, 26 has many meanings and in particular that of “child”… which I translate by children of Isrl since it is Hebrew…
but 26 is also related to WHY, their god :
the gematria sidouri of the word yélèd ילד which means child is worth 26 because י=10 ל=12 and 4=ד.
This value (26) is identical to that of the gematria, classic and Sidouri, of the Tetragrammaton, the four-letter divine Name.
From now, when we read 26, we know
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@mantalo Pour les liens contacter moi sur ottenhof arobase orange en france (12ème reply)
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I heard a joke the other day. A man stopped a rabbi walking down the street and asked, “I gotta know, how exactly do you pronounce the Lord’s name? Is it Ya-way, or Ya-vey?” The rabbi was silent for a moment, then said, “It’s Ya-vey.” The man said thanks, and the rabbi said, “Your veclome.”
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@ Dent Arthur Dent, Just to let you know: There’s no “w” in Hebrew.
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I wonder — are Space Farce rookies called Space Cadets?
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I am making this comment while pausing the movie MoonFall halfway on HBOMax.
The old me would have been fascinated by the movie, the post-Miles me is simply bored and slightly irritated.
During the scenes in the first half of the movie, where I am supposed to feel proud of NASA or America, I don’t feel proud. I feel disappointed and slightly disgusted.
I constantly recognize propaganda, where previously the old me would have recognized none.
Working 24/7, sacrificing personal life for NASA and science and technology? Not something to be proud of, but subtle propaganda.
NASA lied to us (partially) about the moon landings, because there was something else on the moon, something even more dangerous, perhaps alien? Not so subtle propaganda.
It is both a blessing and curse to learn Miles’ teahings in my 20s. Blessing because I see the world for what it is. Curse because almost no one else in my immediate vicinity sees the truth for what it is, which makes feel a bit lonely sometimes, though rarely.
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@Rajiv…You will get used to it. And transformation to truth may improve your health. Also..it is lonely at the top and it can be very lonely in the front. Keep sharing. You will find like-minded people. There are more truther sites on internet.
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Thank you Chandra, I appreciate the re-assuring perspective. God bless you.
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Also, you have your fog-cutting friends here 🙂
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Don’t worry too much. After about 2 years things will settle in your head and the “curse” part of the awakening will vanish, I can assure you. Currently, your mind is simply detoxifying itself from the BS it’s been fed for years.
If no one around you sees the truth for what it is, attempt to inform them insofar as this doesn’t give you headaches and heartaches. The important person is you, not them. It is you who has the gnosis. And if they try to shame you for trying to help them with the truth, leave them in their dreams and then watch them fall into the abyss in slow motion. Take care of yourself first and foremost.
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I wrote a response to Miles and some of the discussion here on AI, computer science, and Turing, and it’s been in moderation for over a week now, so I’m hosting it myself and posting here instead. If you want to read it it’s here.
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Just for fun question:
If oracles are there to “circumvent” halting and decision problems, then if you standardize a sequence of oracles of which each oracle deals with (specializes to circumvent) a particular uncomputability problem according to its hierarchical order, then all computations become seemingly possible. In other words, if you standardize prescribed cheating procedures (“gut feeling” or “mission impossible” dead end fake exit decisions), could you then call such oracle sequencing (spook inspired complex digital reality dodging) an almighty … quantum computing?
or…Our quantum computer (logically) cheats so seamlessly and unpredictably that it is unable, while retracing its own logical steps, to pinpoint the step where the logical mistake was circumvented, nor to conclude if any mistakes were ever made. Our quantum oracles are actively deceptive in all directions, progressive and regressive, so deceptive that we are unable to tell accurate internal clock machine time at any moment. We call it quantum foam computing time, because one can never know precisely how many quantum time bubbles were recreated,how many burst and how many are in process of creation and annihilation. Nevertheless quantum computing results are always correct and reliable.
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[Computers can do that faster and more accurately than humans, and that discrepancy in performance is in fact what the captcha system is detecting. A computer can click on precisely the center of each image containing a dog in less than 50 ms, and in so doing it reveals itself as a computer and fails the captcha.]
But then why can’t someone write a computer program that is able to click on a random pixel in an image, with a random delay time and therefore imitate a human interaction?
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A random function does not mimic a human interaction, though. Attempts to randomly choose (as a human) will always be influenced by non-random aspects. The computer only has influences which are programmed in; a person has those PLUS their own mental propensities PLUS the mere act of attempting to randomly select will bias the selection as well. Those aren’t codified in a person, at least not in the same way. It’s not very similar.
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I once read…heard…felt on brail (not really 😉 ) that a computer cannot be programmed to produce a truly random number; that, say, dice rolls in a computer game are not truly random. It only mimics randomness, something like that.
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@Raymond D. All computer algorithms that generate “random” numbers are really psuedorandom, and are deterministic based on the seed number given to the algorithm. The algorithm can be guaranteed to produce a uniform distribution after many samples, but the numbers given will not actually be random. A classic algorithm that isn’t too difficult to understand is a linear congruential generator. To get true randomness you would have to have the seed number be truly random. random.org uses atmospheric noise to generate the seed number to achieve true randomness (unless you believe in a deterministic universe).
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I was simplifying, but the captcha system also takes into account things like mouse movements, so if the mouse movement is too robotic (e.g. moving in a straight line from start to finish) that will give it away. The implementation is proprietary, but it was also certainly trained via a GAM (generative adversarial network) where one network (the generator) creates a time series that is either a real human (i.e. actual training data) or creates a mock-human input as accurately as possible, and the other network (the discriminator) tries to tell the difference. That is the kind of neural network architecture that can create pictures of fake people, and while it’s not perfect (machine learning systems never achieve 100% accuracy, they just try to get as close as possible) it is still very powerful.
The takeaway is that it’s actually very difficult to write a program that solves a captcha in a way that closely imitates a real person, and basically impossible if you are writing standard code, as opposed to writing a machine learning model to do it for you. See the distinction between software 1.0 and 2.0.
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Besides, maybe the captcha is just a way of collecting massive amounts of data of human interaction that they can then use for other purposes?
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Yup. That and another way to reallly annoy us 😉
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They probably use the data they collect to improve the captcha system itself, but I doubt that captcha data really carries over to other problems. Much more important is browsing data, who you interact with online, what videos you watch on YouTube, etc. That can be used to get a pretty detailed view of what you think and how you spend your time. I think it would be hard to extract that kind of information from how accurately you click on road signs.
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Well they absolutely did use it to improve the system, and that’s why the Captcha systems don’t use any of that anymore. Not since V2. If you see any of the older ones where you have to click anything at all, or even SEE anything there, then it’s of the older variety and those aren’t even supported anymore. All new Captchas and Recaptcha systems are completely hidden and silent in the background, and require no interaction from the person viewing the site at all – because the person viewing the site can’t see them, at all. It’s been like this for several years now.
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Great read Kiernan, thanks!
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To know the truth you must be curious enough to seek it, clever enough to grasp it, and strong enough to bear it. If you lack even one of these things, you’re done.
This is why the weak but informed soul longs for ignorance, and often believes in nonsense when they know better.
Possessing the truth then is as much a test of understanding as it is of character. And this is why there are many delusional clever people, for although they are clever, their weakness of soul leads them to foolishness – their intellect a gift frivolously wasted. A great shame.
A man once said to me “life is an IQ test, it’s hard, but it’s harder if you’re dumb”
I agreed, it’s that, but not only that. That’s the rational component.
It’s a test of character too. That’s the spiritual component.
I believe we are humanly incomplete without passing both.
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This is a twitter thread I read, which felt relevant and hence sharing here. Relates to Miles’s claim that life is a test and the phoenicians are failing it.
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They’ve been failing over a very long timeline and still surviving and ruling.
Evidently, their failures have never led to their extinction.
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You can survive and rule and still fail. They always have. Just look at their faces in the historical WIki pages.
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@ kieran
[Computers can do that faster and more accurately than humans, and that discrepancy in performance is in fact what the captcha system is detecting. A computer can click on precisely the center of each image containing a dog in less than 50 ms, and in so doing it reveals itself as a computer and fails the captcha.]
But then why can’t someone write a computer program that is able to click on a random pixel in an image, with a random delay time and therefore imitate a human interaction?
Besides, maybe the captcha is just a way of collecting massive amounts of data of human interaction that they can then use for other purposes?
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It is admitted that the “type the words you see” variant of captchas are assisting (training?) the OCR algorithms that are scanning hard to read / damaged texts.
The one that really gets me is the checkbox “I am not a computer” — how does that one work? Surely somebody could write a random timer to check that box and, and, and…
Can’t code random because the way entropy works is you can know it when you see it, but you can’t catch it and put in a box.
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The last 10 days I did some statistics with my tools (a spreadsheet is better than the paper table cloth).
In this graph you can see all of our succesfull replies of the last 10 days….(replies in 15 minutes laps)
https://bit.ly/3C7ZwBc
ps. Can somebody quickly explain to me how to insert a ‘real image’ with a link ‘behind’ the image ? I’m using Chrome and there are no icons. I need to use html ?
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There are no icons or tools in this forum on any device, in any browser. To post an image, simply copy/paste its address. It must be hosted elsewhere online. The address must end with the file extension, i.e., “. jpg” or “. png” or GIF. No markup is necessary, just the address with file name and extension.
So if you right-click “Open Image in New Tab” this image and then copy/paste its full address into a comment (for example), it should show up readily.
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“you can see all of our successful replies”
Some of them made it to the site but that doesn’t necessarily mean they were successful in any intrinsic sense.
When I look at your graph, I just see a lot of spikey things. Ooh! Spikes = spike protein = covid. Ooh! Ooh!
I also perceive a trend where total akismet outages seem to occur in the early hours of the day Washington DC time. Somebody throws the big master switch to OFF when the night shift of spooks are out of the office, unavailable to do real-time vetting of submitted CTTF comments.
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Click to access jan6.pdf
But don’t these members of Congress know the whole thing was staged and that the prisoners aren’t
there? Of course they do.
Shouldn’t they be arrested or at least suspended from the job, for lies and withholding truthful information from the public they represent?
And while we are talking about fake events, the headlines are starting to say Ukraine is winning the wargame hoax. McDonald’s will reopen three locations in Kyiv this week, which is another example of what you do during a war with a global superpower. . Looks like we may have some closure on this Hollywood production.
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Here is a CNN piece from 2019 where Jones is reported to say that his belief that Sandy Hook was fake was a form of psychosis: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/alex-jones-psychosis-sandy-hook/index.html See you tube video clip at around 1 hour, 11 min for the psychosis quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XES-AydpIoc&ab_channel=KasterLynchFarrar%26BallLLP
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Queen’s final resting place revealed:
“https://i.ibb.co/D4fW0j1/queenrip.jpg”
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