Miles just published part 1 of a 4-part piece on “Ancient Spooks” up at his site. I am starting a new post devoted to discussion of this series of papers, as it seems they will be important and spark lots of discussion. I’d rather have the discussion here rather than on the main ‘Defending Miles Mathis’ thread. I might do this as new important papers or topics come up.
Here is the link to part 1.
Here is the link to part 2.
Here is the link to part 3.
Here is the link to part 4.
Here is the link to part 5.
And here is a link to Miles’ work on the issue, Where Did All the Phoenicians Go?
Update 4/23/20: Here is a link to Gerry’s new website devoted mainly to the puns and double entendres of Ancient Spooks.
Cutting Through the Fog 
The only other time I remember seeing “Zelle” – that’s the name of a payment platform used by some US banks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelle_(payment_service)
I wonder if that’s some spooky nod to Mata Hari there.
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We have a politician called Helen Zille. Used to be a journalist. Therefore likely a spook. And Jewish. We know they fudge the spelling of their names.
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Comment got stuck, I’ll try a shorter one: I did an Ancient Spooks Update, and the most important new article is a decryption of Caesar’s assassination.
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Good stuff. Makes sense now why so many political actors throughout history paid homage to Caesar.
The pun story of how they faked it using stylus and fake blood packets reminds me of the various “exposures” written by the Church Fathers on the pagans and Roman/Greek mystery cults, such as Clement of Alexandria’s Protrepticus and the very interesting Hippolytus of Rome’s Refutation of All Heresies. The later is especially interesting, as the writer details on how the temples would use various chemical mixtures and tools (such as to fake the sound of thunder, controlled at the precise time) to fool their audiences into thinking they dealing with real gods. Books 2 and 3 are missing from Refutation, and having read some of this, I suspect these books were the juiciest and most revealing parts.
The story of Apsethus the Libyan is a good one. He cages up a bunch of birds and teaches them to say “Apsethus is a god”, then releases them out into the wild, which fools the Libyans. Then the Greeks figure out how to get him back and out him, by teaching the birds to say “Apsethus, having caged us, compelled us to say, Apsethus is a god.” Then the Libyans, “having heard of the recantation of the parrots”, roasted him. Hilarious.
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/050106.htm
Clement of Alexandria almost reads like 3rd century controlled opposition. He goes into great detail exposing the ‘ridiculousness of the pagan cults and mystery rites’, claims the Greek gods were real people but tricksters (admitting Zeus had a hook nose), but he never exposes pun encryption as Gerry does, as far as I can tell. They do make it clear a major part of the Mystery Religions were about brainwashing adherents with ritualized psychedelics. Anyone who reads Plutrach’s or another’s account of the mystery rites and has done psychedelics will see it.
This is why I believe in a cyclical view of history and have a keen interest in this time period, since it seems we’re just re-living the past over and over again. Thousands and thousands of years of Operation CHAOS. Coyote said it right in his recent paper: this is a psychological war against Mankind, waged by the Phoenician governors who trap us in their reoccurring nightmare.
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Clement of Alexandria really has some funny stories there, I only just read a bit into it. He’s hedging in all directions though: Those wicked fraudsters cheat their followers through cheap tricks, AND WITH THE HELP OF DEMONS! BEWARE OF THE DEMONS!!1! When we say there’s no magic and it’s all tricks, then it’s tricks, and when we say it’s demons, then it’s demons. 😉
Plutarch’s work on superstition is also often cited by people who are obsessed with demons & Satanism. I think he only talks about false belief in demons, but that’s apparently good enough for most.
Not sure why they even wanted to “enlighten” their subjects at that time. Was it just about centralization around a new center? Was superstition too traditional & stable, and less easily controlled? Or was there awareness about the old tricks already, so they had to control the opposition by leading it? Had early industrialization made people aware of all the chemical tricks? Judging from the blood packages and later hoaxes, I’d say they were still duped as always.
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I think it’s D). All of the above.
You nailed it about Clement. He really does now read like the Alex Jones of his day, misdirecting us into sexy stories of Satanist diddlers.
I deemed it the Monotheism Project, or the centralization of religions around the world, for the purpose of profit and control. Much like what happened to the centralization of government around the world in the past two centuries. It’s not just in the West or the Arabian Peninsula that his occurred, and some sects of Buddhism and other Eastern religions have a strong monotheistic tone to it. Not that there is anything wrong in believing in one god, but for Phoneys its always about control. It’s just easier to control one or a handful of centralized religions, versus every town or tribe having it’s own variations.
I think the Bronze Age Collapse and the ‘Axial Age’ brought a real upheaval to their command structures, much like the later ‘Dark Age’. Whether this collapse was fully or partially done on purpose, or not intended at all, depends on how you want to read it. I say Ferengi are always gonna Ferengi, and will take advantage of any situation.
I believe the old religions died out not just because the Ferengi killed them off, but regular folk over the centuries began to see how the temples became totally corrupt and useless. Hence the story of Jesus tossing the moneylenders out of the temple. It wasn’t just Jewish temples that had moneylenders, but many of the Roman and Greek temples did too, so we can see how that story and Christianity would have very broad appeal to pagans as well. They had profit-making factories producing “sacred” trinkets by the millions, and endless parades of fake and scab priests so intertwined in the then current corrupt system that anybody with two denarii left in their heads could see through them. By the peak the Roman Empire the trillionaire and billionaire Families of the time had pretty much raked in 95% of society’s wealth. Much like today.
Then you read stories like Alexander of Abonoteichus, and suspect this fraud was employed by them to make the pagans look as ridiculous as possible. Then they hired Lucian of Samosata to write about it and ridicule. Like the later Martin Luther v. the Medici Popes showdown in later centuries.
“During the time when Lucian lived, traditional Greco-Roman religion was in decline and its role in society had become largely ceremonial.[13] As a substitute for traditional religion, many people in the Hellenistic world joined mystery cults, such as the Mysteries of Isis, Mithraism, the cult of Cybele, and the Eleusinian Mysteries.[14] Superstition had always been common throughout ancient society,[14] but it was especially prevalent during the second century.[14][15] Most educated people of Lucian’s time adhered to one of the various Hellenistic philosophies,[14] of which the major ones were Stoicism, Platonism, Peripateticism, Pyrrhonism, and Epicureanism.[14] Every major town had its own university[14] and these universities often employed professional travelling lecturers,[14] who were frequently paid high sums of money to lecture about various philosophical teachings.[16] The most prestigious center of learning was the city of Athens in Greece, which had a long intellectual history.[16]”
Substitute ‘decline in traditional Greco-Roman religion’ for holiday and ceremony (weddings and funerals) only Christians like myself and many others these days, ‘mystery cults’ for today’s New Age religions, ‘Hellenistic philosophies’ for the various materialist based physics theories that Miles often ridicules, and ‘every major town with high paid traveling lecturers’ with highly paid university/college spooks in every town hoaxing and misdirecting the people all the time.
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That’s a lot of insights in just a few comments, maybe worthy of several new papers.
If Christendom now ~ ceremonial Jupiter in 0 BC
& materialist based physics ~ Hellenistic philosophies in 0 BC
But what is then the equivalent now, for christendom in 0 BC (somewhat later of course)? Must be atheism?
And I gahter Philip means with the materialst based physics the particle-Zoo, borrowing from the vacuum, etc.?
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@Gijs: Yes, all those ridiculous theories Miles tears apart, including the ‘ultimate answer to everything’ theories like the big bang, the ultimate equation, etc.
If you look up Pyrrhonism and other Hellenistic philosophers of that stripe, you’ll find they were actually pushing Buddhism, but in another form. At least in Pyrrhonism they admit he travelled with Alexander the Great’s army and studied with the Indian gymnosophists. However, they don’t admit Epicurus pushed pretty much the same Buddhistic worldview (ataraxia and aponia) on the Greeks and later Romans. See also the Epicurean poet Philodemus of Gadara. The name Gadara makes me wonder if there’s a connection to Gautama and all its variants. See Miles’ recent paper on Buddhism. Gadara was the birthplace of the satirist and Cynicist Menippus, who was admittedly a Phoenician and a pretty huge red flag. Pretty much confirms everything I suspected about the Cynicism, a Phoney project to sow discord, apathy, and nihilism.
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Divus Julius 81.c and Gerry’s pun decryption reveals that Lucius Cornelius Balbus was the one who handled the fake assassination event. Wiki confirms it.
“Lucius Cornelius Balbus (fl. 1st century BC) was born in Gades early in the first century BC. Lucius Cornelius Balbus was a wealthy Roman politician and businessman of Punic origin and a native of Gades in Hispania, who played a significant role in the emergence of the Principate at Rome”
“Balbus’ personal friendships with Pompey and Caesar were instrumental in the formation of the First Triumvirate. He was a chief financier in Rome.”
Meaning he was the chief Phoenician banker at the time, with the Cornelius being a hidden top ranking family still to this day. Plus wiki confirms he was Rome’s first naturalized citizen and took care of Caesar’s Commentarii de Bello Gallico, which means he probably heavily edited or even wrote the book himself.
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The name Cornelius struck me.
What do you make of this?
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/hannah-cornelius-death-killers-documentary-26623496
I have my doubts about the whole story. Father a judge, mother a lawyer who was pictured with Bill Gates. Mother drowned/suicided shortly after Hannah’s death. Smells like men are pigs, other races not to be trusted etc.
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Yes, faked. Usual script complete with a usual documentary, yet another charity-front foundation, and names of the killers (Nashville Julius, Geraldo Parsons, Eben Van Niekerk , and Vernon Witboo) that all link up with peerage or Afrikaans politicians.
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Philip Cox:
The names of the killers sound authentic for the region, but there might be some hidden references to peerage names(Parsons, Nashville) and it is not a dig at Afrikaners. Funnily enough the unspoken take-away is against miscegenation, for it is never confirmed or denied that the deceased was in a relationship with her valiant companion, a “person of color”. Just like it is insinuated, but never explicitly stated, that the mother suicided.
Eleven hours of terror. Imagine that. Fortunately the killers got 358 years. That is, 3+5=8, and another 8 for the magikal 88.
Quite a pointless little plot, unless it was to get someone into deep cover.
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The site I used for the literal translations has a speech by Cicero in defense of Lucius Cornelius Balbus. Cicero was said to be one of the greatest speakers, so I suppose there’s doublespeak involved as well. Even the English translation looks like he just lists all the corruption & crimes, and puts a “did not” before that.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Cic.+Balb.+56
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We have a pun on Cicero, which we learn from early school, but which is difficult to translate.
https://spkfrnch.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/si-cest-rond-cest-point-carre/
in French the famous speaker is called Cicéron and therefore:
“Cicéron c’est Poincaré” (si c’est rond, c’est point carré = if it’s round, it’s not square)
from the day I learned this little joke, I never considered Cicero as a serious person again… I always imagined him as a tartuffe… sometimes credibility hangs by a wire…
For the mathematician Poincaré, the sum of the angles of a triangle is always less than 180° (even in maths, there are markers)
you have to dare to call yourself poincaré when you are a french mathematician !
the Poincaré seem to be a small Phoenician family, they are 5 or 6 to be famous, come out of nowhere, then disappear towards nowhere…
or they are directly descended from Cicero and we are all blind idiots
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sorting my favourites, i see a link to benedict cumberbatch’s ancestors on famouskin.com… i click to see why i kept this link and i find Robert I, King of France.
I go back up the genealogy of this Robert I and arrive at Robert of Hesbaye (770–807 // three 7 = jackpot).
I go back down the genealogy of this robert of hesbays and I find 4 of the 6 wives of Henri 8: Catherine Parr, 21st great-granddaughter, Catherine Howard, Jeanne Seymour and Anne Boleyn, these three being 20th great-granddaughter.
but there is also Jim Carrey (39th great-grandson), Edwin Hubble, (38th great-grandson), Justin Trudeau (37th great-grandson), Pete Buttigieg (37th great-grandson), Brad Pitt (37), Barak Obama (37), King Leka I (King of the Albanians – 37), Boris Johnson (36), Meghan Markle (36), Erskine Childers (4th President of Ireland – 36), Bill gates, Paris hilton, angelina jolie, beyonce, justin bieber, Wernher von Braun (35), Hugh Grant, Amelia Earhart, Catherine Middleton, Anne Heche, Ezra Pound, Kit Harington,
it’s delirium, they are hundreds
https://
famouskin.com/famous-kin-menu.php?name=4160+robert+of+hesbaye
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also lee harvey is in
the bush family, of course
some rockefeller
truman capote
alan turing
Aldous Huxley
Sarah Palin
Orson Welles
Sigourney Weaver
Alan Shepard
Steve McQueen
Camilla Parker Bowles
Ernest Hemingway
Jimmy Carter
Walt Disney
King Charles III
Ray Bradbury
Allen Dulles
John Kerry
Admiral Richard Byrd
Marilyn Monroe
John D. Rockefeller of the standard oil
Winston Churchill
Lizzie Borden
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Dr. H. H. Holmes, the Serial Killer aka “Devil in the White City”
Princess Diana, Queen Elizabeth II,
Henry Sturgis Morgan, Founder of Morgan Stanley
Arthur Conan Doyle
Tennessee Williams
Lewis Carroll
Charles Darwin
Herman Melville
Fletcher Christian
one unique and huge family
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Wernher von Braun related to Jim Carrey? Well Alrighty then!
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I see what you did there, Mr Ventura — love that line.
Speaking of von Braun, I hope we get the Great Space Alien Invasion script instead of the WWIII one 😉
But yes, a hoary family tree with a lot of rotten fruit.
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Hi everyone, I just published a decryption of War of the Jews by Flavius Josephus on my Ancient-Spooks.de website. At least the beginning is not about any specific war, but again an encrypted history of spookery: It tells how the aristocrats wanted to ward off their own subjects, so so they invented an eternal deception, disguising as subjects themselves. It pretty much confirms the Book of Genesis, but goes into more detail, especially about controlled opposition.
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Here’s the link, if it doesn’t get blocked:
http://ancient-spooks.de/texts/josephus-jewish-war.html
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[Nobles did not invent religion, but loafers had used it before.
Here the text says that the rulers did not invent religion. That is also my conclusion: Religion is much older than spookery. The text then claims that people from the lower classes also took on a religious cover when they didn’t want to do any hard work. I assume that’s also true, but the same can be said about all administrative institutions, especially government: When for someone’s task the results cannot be seen, and outsiders depend on him explaining it to them, then such a position will always attract many fraudsters].
I know of a recent case : some sad little bachelor with a German-J-ish tupe of surname, who ‘worked’ (or sponged off, more like) as a useless parasite-civil servant, in Paris, until he got to age 60+, when he suddenly decided to become…a priest! (a belated religious calling eh?), as he realised he could retire in the South of France, surrounded by nuns to pamper him in his special priests’ residence …His nephew happened to be a priest also.
[Trusted servants betray the nobility, make their secrets known.
As in Genesis 6:1 and Genesis 11:2, the text claims here that the secret betrayal of the rulers had been found out before by their subjects. These texts are only generic parables, but I believe this also happened in real history. That’s very encouraging, because it means that the rulers are not beyond detection. Apparently though, the rulers were always able to make this knowledge disappear among the subjects over the following generations.]
The rulers are not beyond detection ? Or were ? What really is their position now? Stronger than ever, it would seem, only more degenerate, corrupted and greedier than ever; but are they any more detected, more visible and thus more vulnerable, nowadays ?
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What I meant is this: Today, the rulers are undetected. That’s why Miles’ research has made such an impact on us. On myself at least. Other than on Miles’ site, I’d say you cannot find this idea anywhere, that rulers constantly disguise as commoners, and even signal this publicly. No text says this, and people dismiss the idea when you talk to them.
But if the encrypted texts are correct (I can’t vouch for that), then there have been times when this was known by many commoners. Apparently, this wasn’t enough to topple the this system though. Since today no one knows it, the knowledge must somehow have died out among the common people. The rulers must have gained the upper hand again, and have seen to that.
All texts are very brief here, and I do not know to what extend it’s all true. But it has been suggested here on the forum that the rulers simply censored their biggest failures out of the history books. Like someone said there could have been pre-Columbus attempts to conquer the Americas. Or that history gaps like the one between the Roman empire and the Middle Ages could conceal such failures.
Today, yes, I’d agree they seem stronger than ever, and more degenerate, corrupted and greedier. Very visible to people like us, but otherwise undetected by the majority, and therefore not very vulnerable, sadly. But in my research, I often get the impression that they have ruled smoothly and uncontested for millennia. And here we have hints that perhaps it wasn’t all that smooth, so that’s encouraging.
Was that what you meant with your question?
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Yes thanks, I appreciate your detailed reply. It’s good to have someone else’s opinion on the subject.
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I believe the Dark Ages in history are likely ‘Great Resets’, where they unleashed the ‘barbarians’ due to things spiraling out of their control. If De Bello Judaico (published circa 75 AD) is referring to a previous time when commoners were in the know, it may have been just prior or during the Bronze Age Collapse. It seems there was a large scale breakdown/revolt against the old Mesopotamian/Egyptian/Shang? spooky style of governance, which led to the Axial Age and more decentralization across the world for a time. I don’t think these collapses are 100% planned, but instead enterprising Ferengi take advantage of the changing times, try to manage the old scheme’s fall, and then continue the cycle. Since they are on the top of the pyramid, they have a larger perspective on when they have sucked all life out of the current system, and when to move on to the next.
ZH had a article about EU’s Joseph Borrell’s statement that Europe is ‘a garden’ that could be invaded by ‘the jungle’. The insinuation here is that they will unleash the Sea Peoples 4.0 on Europe. It does seem, in the past century and now with the ongoing theater in the Ukraine, that they want to chase as many people out of Eastern Europe as possible, like some later day Goths..
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Yup; I am suspicious that the court historians refer to those periods as “Dark Ages”.
And while I’m here, I certainly don’t think spookery is an emergent property – bollocks to that. It is the Phoenician Way and they brought to all corners of the earth, over time — there is directed agency behind it. I don’t think it a coincidence that the great ancient empires all arise around the same time, along with the itinerant “philosphers” of that age.
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About spookery being an “emergent property”: Do you mean that it’s not a natural development, but a forced one? I’d agree to that, but only from a certain point on.
I found all these texts from many different cultures about deceptive ruling. The meanings are secret, and yet precisely none of them speaks about “Jews” or “Phoenicians”, or national powers at all. And we haven’t seen any trace of any power ever opposing spookery. So my conclusion is that the first stages developed independently in many cultures.
Of course, it was certainly not “the natural way” for humanity to evolve. A better analogy would be a parasitic infection, where the parasites will turn their hosts into zombies that infect other colonies, and also the next generation. But from that point on, it’s a possible logical development: Once the parasitic rulers reached an unnatural level of power, they used some of that power to deceive their subjects about many things, specifically about whether it was OK for them to have that much power, or whether they really had it in the first place. And once this unnatural system was firmly in place, it was spread to other powers, where other proto-spooky rulers happily adopted it. There was little anyone without power could do to learn about it, let alone defeat it. The main perversion is that humanity came to have powerful “rulers” like that at all, instead of being lead by experienced elders, who would be from different families in every generation, like with animal groups.
I think all cultures were able to fend off this unnatural development for many millennia. It was probably certain inventions that favored large centralized “civilizations” over dispersed small groups of humans that doomed us: One of those was certainly large-scale irrigation, which had the greatest effect along the Mesopotamian & Egyptian rivers, with their highly unstable water supply. Another one would have been bronze. Bronze ingredients are highly concentrated, so the largest power can seize them, and then has a monopoly on real armies, gained even more unnatural power on top. Most of this likely happened in pre-historic times. As I said in my papers: script was invented to cope with too much administrative power. Humanity was already doomed by then.
There are other inventions which favor decentralization. I’d say the internet was one, which is why they’re rolling it back. And I’ve come to think that another such invention was iron smelting. That may even be why they forced the Late Bronze Age Collapse: The invention of iron smelting was likely a complete disaster for the overlords. Because of iron’s high melting point, the technique is complicated so it was discovered late. But it could be taught and learned. And then the ingredients were widely available: Iron ore is abundant and available everywhere. Relatively minor settlements could suddenly raise up defense forces against the armies of bronze-armored goons from the large “civilizations”. Maybe for the overlords, the only solution was to use the advantage in numbers they still had, and simply conquer “the known world” in one big go, or at least all places that were advanced enough for iron smelting.
I’m still looking for a book or text that has more details about bronze vs. iron smelting. Does anyone know such a text?
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the analogy with a parasite is the correct one.
The proof is that the French name of the conqueror is guillaume, which begins with gui = mistletoe and mistletoe is a well-known parasite of trees ….
Then, we have “aume = home = house” or “laume = l’homme”, meaning, the gui is a “house” that parasitizes the family trees of humanity.
The mistletoe does not kill its host, but feeds on it by weakening some branches.
And this is exactly what we see in the development of the Pn parasite.
You know the English synonyms for mist better than I do…we’re spot on.
Finally, the English name of the conqueror is william, in which, in pole position, we find “will”, and then “i am”… no need to explain.
Moreover, I am convinced that the very first discovery that allowed them to gain the upper hand over the others was that of mastering the fire…
hence the name “feu nix”: those who know (= savoir ==> savoy ==> saches ==> sachs) how to chase away (chasser) the night (nix) thanks to fire (Feu).
we know their love for fire.
Not counting the current series: house of the dragon, which is exclusively about the family that dominates a kingdom, thanks to dragons…
what does a dragon do? does he knit turtleneck sweaters for winter?
Let’s not forget that fire has four main functions: to Cook, to Heat, to Light, to Melt (= CHLM = chelem ==> the grand slam)
In French, “un four” (an oven), the FOURth function, is used to bake bread but also to make ceramics and when you master the art of ceramics, it is america.
the fifth function of fire is to destroy.
This is why the star of the Freemasons has 5 branches.
Obviously, the G inside is one of their blagounette!
in fact, it is F+1 (four+1), the last function of fire and the first stage of alchemy: calcination, when Matter turns Black.
Finally, with charcoal, you can make up…
hence the predominance of the notion of make-up in their names (de Guise = disguise – with Gui again, grimaldi = the grimés, grimm’s tales, etc.)
No doubt that grimés and with the help of fire, they conquered the less “skillful” tribes: by spectacle and/or by fear.
A French word is interesting to describe a person who performs tricks in public: saltimbanque… do you see the bank?
it’s the fairy tale of how fire led them to bank… fairbanks…a family of chemists, actors, inventors and ultimately: president of america.
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The official etymology of “dragon” is from “seeing” & “watching”, so there’s probably again some wordplay involved which isn’t about the visible symbol.
But with actual fire, that’s not an invention that would have favored large-scale over small-scale settlements. There’s wood in pretty much all places where humans can live. Now coal would be something different, but that came much later.
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before man knew how to produce fire, fire was only found in volcanoes or where lightning set trees ablaze… (blaze in French means both name and nose).
there are large areas of territory on earth where there is no volcano or lightning falling.
Going for fire in a crater is not easy, approaching lava flows either, and to dare to approach a tree or a forest on fire, you need to have… balls 🙂
To have the idea of not running away from fire, but of taking it and keeping it is revolutionary.
This is where, in my opinion, they left all the others far behind.
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Moreover, consider the “sacred fire” of the zororastrians in support of your point.
I think the broader point is mastery of ENERGY. Instead of just a brute, random force of nature, energy becomes an instrument to amplify the action of the feeble human body, and thus the human will.
Nothing new under the sun…
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Spookery didn’t evolve independently and naturally out of hierarchical civilisation; it is not an inevitability but a reaction against revolution and dissent. Devious minds created it and those elites that perfected it took over the world; that and access to early sailing technology such as the brail gave them the edge. It was invented by the Phoenicians (or their Persian Gulf ancestors) and spread outwards from the Ancient Near East to the East and to the West., i.e. all recorded ancient empires are Phoenician.
Claiming it is as old as civilisation itself and just sort of pops up out of hiearchical societies (that “emergent property”) is a cop out for the Phoenicians. You did your job too well, Gerry, and there is no rolling it back, at least not for me 😀
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Other totalitarian leaders played whack-a-mole with the peasants; but the Phoenicians invented spookery to go around the peasants.
Perhaps the Bronze Age Collapse was a widespread peasant revolt and the Phoenician redoubts are the places were the elites had the time and energy to evolve their new strategy. I always found it strange that the Ancient Greeks cities seems to be testing grounds for different types of government.
Anyway, I’ll have no truck with theories that claim it just sort of happens. No. Spookery is an invention by an elite that you called out in your original papers and I’m not letting go of it now. You move on if you want to.
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Animals and plants use spookery so unless you are suggesting plants learnt it off of the Phoenicians. I would suggest a rethink. It’s not spookery that is important but having a population that falls for it or at least believes it is wrong and minimise the use of it themselves. And religion may be the key to that or probably something else
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alexrimmer0973 I am simple. My current favorite analogy for the creation/evolution of beasts is a youtube vid called ‘True Facts: Parasitic Birds.’ Oddly the cuckoo meme is affixed to birdwatching Intelligence(MI6,CIA) in the Business Plot shit show that is the recent film ‘Amsterdam.’ I did say I was simple.
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@Alex, about religion: I doubt it’s the key. I found many puns which are evidence that all those religious stories & symbols are much older than organized spookery. Religious folks may not accept puns as proof that religion is genuine, but maybe you will.
Please look at the tags “divine names”, “Bible names” and “mythical creatures” on my Ancient-Spooks site, and then browse the “in a nutshell” lists. You’ll see that there’s typically 2 sets of wordplay: The 1st set has nothing to do with spookery. It’s simply a set of words that are all similar and that were combined into some character or story. That was probably done by ancient storytellers. The audiences probably knew it, and liked it because everything rhymed. It was a form of poetry. The 2nd set of wordplay is then the spooky puns. I found those first because I looked for them, but they’re all based on older versions of the same stories, which already had the 1st set of puns. There were likely countless stories which already had the 1st set of puns, but weren’t suited for the spooky puns, so the spooks couldn’t include spooked versions in their scriptures and they were forgotten.
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This is very enlightening if you read it with eyes peeled, as Miles suggested in the gaslighting paper.
So this is why yuppies had little zen sandboxes on their desks way back when. All that was wildly promoted by Suzuki-san. He comes off as pivotal in this extension of the theosophy project judging by his circle of friends.
The names dropped in the article are some of the usual suspects, thereby confirming spookdom, if only by association.
Once you know the backstory, nothing is the same again.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._T._Suzuki
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I’ve been looking for the original Spanish text of Christopher Columbus’s journal, since that is said to contain some oddly worded passages. Maybe there’s some encryption involved in there too. Does anyone know whether the original text is online somewhere?
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Supposedly “Upon his return to Spain in the spring of 1493, Columbus presented the diary to Isabella I of Castile.. He had it copied, kept the original, and gave the copy to Columbus before his second voyage. The whereabouts of the original Spanish text has been unknown since 1504.”
https://es-abcdef-wiki.translate.goog/wiki/Christopher_Columbus%27s_journal?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
You’ve probably found the one translated into English.
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Trying to rescue this old buried-by-Akismet comment from a few months ago.
Miles paper on the HMS Bounty got me thinking the spread of Old World diseases into the New wasn’t so accidental. Legal historian Tom Swanky came to the same conclusion about the genocide of the First Nations.
“https://www.coastmountainnews.com/news/legal-historian-makes-case-smallpox-was-intentional-biological-warfare/”
““There were three main ways smallpox was intentionally spread,” he explains. “The first was through infected blankets. The second was intentional, direct contact with an infected person, and the third was through false vaccination programs.”
Hmm.. sounds familiar.
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I would add poisoning especially water
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Just trying to get this docu link through.
Secrets Of The Dead: Carthage’s Lost Warriors
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6IVYzS1slk”
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I’m all aboard with early pre-Colombian contact, but IMO the only interesting evidence in that video is the Celtic axe, if it’s authentic. All the other stuff seems a bit of an insult, as if Native Americans couldn’t invent spiral decorations or round houses or slingshots on their own. That “Carthaginian navy refugees” theory also seems an effort to prop up the reality of the Roman-Carthaginian wars. 😉
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Aye agree for the most part. What I’m trying to get through (but the censors keep blocking me) is that the research done by this German professor, which led to this documentary, smells like When Scotland was J-word level of controlled op. He undercuts his theory spectacularly in one page in his paper, it’s very suspicious.
I read the “carthagininan navy refugee” bit as them quasi-admitting that they actually “escaped”, which is pretty close to “letting them go”, but most likely it’s a “it never happened, and it was the Phoneys as usual”.
I just believe the Natives over here were successfully resisting/integrating with the Phoneys until they started cheating with guns, germs, and steel.
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And the whole 12 Tribes thing, besides the pun aspect, is a project to turn natives into Philo-Semitics. Made sense in the pre-modern age, but now they have to restrict/poo poo any J-word or Phony travels that don’t fit the modern narrative.
I think the whole Mormon/12 Tribes thing also helps prevent independent researchers from taking pre-Atlantic contact seriously. Like how creationism versus evolution (as a project) keeps independent researchers trapped in phony debates.
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Sorry, what do you mean by “12 tribes”? Are the alleged settlers of Mormon lore supposed to be one of those “tribes”? But yeah, if they wanted to make a bad case, that would be this movie.
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Sorry, I meant the 10 lost of the 12 Tribes of Israel. I mean , no doubt there were J-word communities and merchants (see the Radhanites) in India, China, Central Asia, Africa, and Japan, arriving beyond when it’s generally admitted they were there, but that’s not my point. I really do think they were trying to colonize the Americas prior to Columbus, but for whatever reason failed to established a foothold for centuries. Or maybe they did, but lost it to the natives. See the failed Viking expeditions to Vinland as an example. Here I’m more focused on how these Phoneys create half-truth narratives to fit their longer agenda.
Referring back to the Phoenician Secrets by Holst, one thing he makes repeatedly clear is how the Phoenicians infiltrated the natives. It’s done, just as we’ve seen in Miles paper on more recent events, by inserting their own agents who talk, walk, dress, and act just like a ‘commoner’. Controlled opposition.
Now imagine you’re one of these colonizing Phoneys, and some of the natives are starting to figure out you’re actually not one of them, and that they are getting screwed by your phony trade deals and hoaxes. What do you do?
Get the natives to identify with you! Let the more useful natives in a new secret network, create a new narrative/backstory, and bing bada boom you just covered your older spooky network with another veil. See British-Israelism, Mormonism, etc.
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Yeah, I get you with the cargo cult approach. That may have been a main goal of those Mor(m)onic stories and the 10 tribes. But I doubt The Phoenies could start this when the natives (or settlers) were already suspicious. I suppose they then had to simply use brute force, or write the region off as unconquerable for a few decades, and then start another attempt with a new facade when the smartest people or leaders had died. As for a Native American cargo cult, I recall a story where some conquistador made the natives worship his horse, though that probably only succeeded because the local ruler was in on it.
If many different filter bubbles of lesser idiot spooklings exist, then I’d love to know how they play them against each other, and us. That may still give us an edge today. Different spookling groups may be a reason why I found they’re often using symbols that work in several languages, like Latin, Greek and Hebrew.
I think in the Bible, the Moses story may be about the recruitment of lesser spooklings: Yahweh puns with “hidden”, Moses puns with “middleman”, Aaron puns with “backup”, and the Hebrews pun with “assistant” / “informants”. For a while I thought the secret Bible stories was what they teach to everyone in spookling school, but it was perhaps really more of a manual for the higher-ups and mid-level spooks, on how to cheat commoners and lesser spooklings alike.
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I can’t open the Jewish war link? Did it get block?
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Works for me
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Does the rest of the ancient-spooks.de site work? You can also get to the Josephus text via Sections > Texts > Josephus: War of the Jews. Or by typing “Josephus” into the Search field.
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Thank you yes it works
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“Historian Francis J. Bigger notes the use of a right hand by the O’Neills around 1335, and surmises that it may have been for them a symbol signifying divine assistance and strength, whilst also suggesting that the ancient Phoenicians may have brought the symbol to Ireland.” dug this up while reading up a bit on the red right hand of Ulster.
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