Below is a rebuttal and response to a recent attack on Miles Mathis, titled “Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Clowns.” Note that from the first word there is already an ad hominem attack in the form of childish name-calling. Apparently Miles is a clown, and the picture of him at the top of the post is supposed to prove it, I guess. Also note that the paper was first published on Mark Tokarski’s (now defunct) “Miles Mathis discussion site,” which is apparently just New Speak for a place where discussion is forbidden. The “About” section of the site no longer exists, but it originally stated that: “As always there are ground rules. No personal attacks. I have met him, he is a human being, even as some think he is a front for a committee. Be respectful of one another.” So much for that. I guess the next post he publishes will be a hit piece titled “Miles ‘Pantsload’ Mathis.” Oh wait, they’ve already used that one
[Update May 13, 2018: The link at the top to the commentary on Miles has been deleted from that site, which is now also vacant with a “for rent” sign hanging on the front window. I have re-linked to an archived copy of that page, which I made using the wayback machine before it was erased. That site was a spin-off blog started by Mark Tokarski, who has a regular blog called Piece of Mindful (PoM or POM or now lovingly referred to as POS). I was a contributor there for about 6 months in 2016-2017 before I parted ways and opened up shop here. Mark has now re-published that hit piece on his regular blog under the title ‘Down the Rabbit Hole’ and also added some scurrilous and libelous accusations against Miles. I will not link to the new piece, though you can easily find it yourself. I will have an update in the coming days responding to the new accusations but others have responded to it in comments.]
Two things I want to say before I continue. First: this response is long, and if you think I am trying to Waste Your Time™, then by all means don’t read it. Nobody’s forcing you to. If you think this is part of some manufactured fracas to further split the truther ‘community,’ you will be relieved to hear that the gambit cannot work if you close this browser tab now and ignore it. I sincerely wish I had done both of those things when I first saw the post authored by the pseudonymous “Robert Zherunkel.” But I didn’t and now here I am, unable to ignore it and allowing myself to be hoisted on somebody’s petard—maybe even my own. It is my hamartia. Or one of them, anyway.
Second: I think it’s perfectly legitimate to be skeptical of Miles and question whether or not he his genuine. My intention is not one of “how dare you!” and my response here is not a knee-jerk defense. It comes after having spent a long time wrangling with some of the same questions raised by “Robert.” But unlike him, I did not seek answers to my questions in rhetorical gimmicks. I prefer substance. So in responding to his accusations, I will also be offering some insight into how I came to believe, and still do, that Miles is a genuine person who is genuine in his intentions. That doesn’t mean I think he is perfect or that I agree with everything he writes or every conclusion he reaches. But it does mean that when I think he’s wrong, I don’t think he’s being wrong on purpose. In other words, I don’t think he’s trying to deliberately mislead or act as some kind of limited hangout.
Whoever wrote this pathetic attack piece wants you to dismiss the scientific work of Miles Mathis based on sophistry, since he is unable to show how it is wrong. I don’t think you can reach conclusions about the work (including deciding whether it could be the work of a single person) unless you have read it. And if you haven’t, then it would be best to remain agnostic rather than fall for the sophistry—and sophistry it is, starting from the ad hominem in the title.
Extraordinary Claims…
I think I might know who “Robert Zherunkel” is: the ghost of Carl Sagan. Who else would start out by admonishing that “Extraordinary claims, it is said, require extraordinary evidence.” Yes, that is often said. But remind yourself who says it. You always hear it from the (paid) guardians of the mainstream who try to discredit all evidence that contradicts the status quo. The fact that this writer’s first move is to pull out one of the go-to talking points of paid shills and mainstream gatekeepers is, in my mind, a dead giveaway. In my opinion the whole thing sounds like it was written by a fairly experienced JTRIG operative who has underestimated or utterly failed to understand his target audience. He thinks he can trigger the desired response in Miles’ readers using ad hominems, appeals to authority, and low-level stuff like dragging out this tired mantra. He flatters you as someone who is too sophisticated to believe what you read in newspapers, but treats you like someone who has just begun to question their daily dose of propaganda. His ploy is patently transparent and simply won’t work. Not on us. Can we please speak with your supervisor, “Robert”?
Look, I agree that it is hard to believe that a person like Miles exists. The sheer genius of his insights, the scope of his work, and the scale of his productivity are admittedly hard to believe. They are extraordinary. But that doesn’t mean they’re impossible. In the world our governors have molded, they have tried to marginalize and quash people like Miles, rob them of any incentive to do what they do. They want us to believe that it is no longer possible to achieve so much, especially without the promise of monetary reward and especially if it goes against the matrix of lies they have constructed. “Robert” cannot even fathom that Miles hasn’t copyrighted his work, it is so outside his corrupted vision of conceivable human action. And then he wants you to believe it is a sign that something is amiss. Sorry, but I’m not buying the vision of humanity and human potential that he’s selling.
‘Pataphysicist Extraordinaire?
“Robert” mentions how inconceivable it is that someone who lacks a laboratory, graduate student assistants, a high-powered computer, and an advanced degree could have achieved what Miles has. (I believe he errs in thinking that Miles has never had access to a research library, since much of his earlier work was completed while living near Amherst. And anyway, hasn’t he heard of the internet?) But it actually makes sense when you read his science work, because it is bears the hallmarks of an autodidact who started from square one and questioned everything as he went along. Do you think that most people with advanced degrees in physics these days have actually read the original works accredited to Newton or Einstein? No, they are taught glosses of their work in textbooks. People like that have the tendency to humblebrag that they stand on the shoulders of giants. But the problem is that they are not taught to question the work of those giants. They are taught to accept it as dogma.
Miles also stands on the shoulders of giants, but before trying to look further, he first peered over their shoulders and checked their work. And guess what? Turns out they weren’t as giant as we are taught, since he found a lot of mistakes. He explains these mistakes very clearly. They are not hard to understand and usually involve simple errors of algebra, variable assignment, or logical contradictions. Of course Miles’ work is not just a simple correction to this work: he brings to the table many deep yet straightforward conceptual insights and expands far beyond the work he corrects.
The suggestion that his physics work is a pastiche of different theories is only something that someone who hadn’t read his work could argue without being disingenuous, and it could only resonate with people who haven’t read it. The reason is that it is coherent. It is of a piece. Not only that, you can see how one idea or paper leads another, how later papers build on earlier ones (and plus his physics papers are chock-a-block with interconnecting hyperlinks). For example, his work on Pi follows from the work he did dissecting and correcting Newton’s Lemmae, as well as his work on deriving a calculus that was appropriate for describing the physical world, along with others. He then uses his reworking of Pi to correct many mainstream equations. It’s also worth noting that his argument about kinematic Pi differs from other “tired old math paradoxes” since it is derived from different postulates and is brought to bear only in some circumstances (to describe the path of moving objects). Thus although it may appear superficially to be simply a variant of the diagonal paradox, it is not.
To give you a point of comparison, consider Miles’ conspiracy opus. Imagine someone suggested to you that he had simply cobbled together a bunch of disparate conspiracies and alternative histories from all over the place and claimed intellectual ownership. I don’t think you’d buy it. First you wouldn’t buy it because you won’t find anything anywhere about many of the things he has (un)covered, and the way he approaches the things that have been covered elsewhere are always unique and usually far more decisive and illuminating. Is there anybody else out there, for example, who has ever said that major historical figures like Hitler, Mussolini and JFK were gay Jewish actors who faked their deaths. No, there isn’t. Now imagine someone suggested to you that each of Miles’ papers on those historical figures were all written by different ‘oddballs’ and Miles just revised their work to make it sound like one person wrote them. Would you buy it? Of course not. So to suggest he cobbled his work together from different sources is an obvious non-starter. And for anyone who has followed the progression of Miles’ work and seen how he built up to these and other conclusions and how intertwined his various papers are, stiff with interconnected hyperlinks, you would have to think that anyone claiming that his work was a pastiche had in fact never read it and/or was deliberately trying to mislead you. For those of us who have read and digested his work in physics, “Robert’s” insinuation is equally absurd. Either “Robert” has not read the work (and is therefore in no position to judge it) or he has read it and is deliberately mischaracterizing it in order to mislead you.
Oddball Comparisons and Appeals to Authority
Here we go with more ad hominems when “Robert” compares Miles to other “oddballs.” But just because the mainstream has discredited these people’s work, how can we be sure they’re wrong? Because the ‘experts’ say so? Whoever this “Robert” is he sure seems to put an awful lot of faith in mainstream knowledge and expertise, wouldn’t you say? There are many implicit and explicit appeals to authority throughout the piece, such as when he says that “any time that Mathis has written on a topic that I have direct, personal knowledge of, he has gotten it wrong. Dead wrong.” Yet he fails to offer any examples, so I guess we’re just supposed to take his word for it.
He makes a lot of claims about what characterizes oddball work (it “bends terminology to make [an] argument”) and charges Miles with the same misdeed without being able to point to a single example. His argument in a nutshell is this: “The mainstream has dismissed others because their work is ‘not even wrong’ and can be trivially falsified. And if that’s true of these others, then it must be true of Miles.” Frankly I’m surprised anybody would think this kind of sophistry would work on this audience, and I’m even more surprised that Mark agreed to publish it. I have defended and made excuses for him until now, but no longer.
Now, if “Robert” will only be satisfied when “experts in the field” are willing to confirm the value or validity of Miles’ physics work, I can point to at least three I know of:
One of them is Tahir Yaqoob, a PhD in Astrophysics who has held positions at many prestigious universities and now works at the University of Maryland and the Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA. Yaqoob was the one who encouraged Miles to publish his first science book and also wrote the forward and a blurb on the back cover. Of course “Robert” might object that the support of a NASA-affiliated scientist is a hug red flag. For that matter, one might argue that the endorsement of any mainstream physicist is a red flag. But in that case he has put Miles in a no-win situation. Also, to immediately dismiss Yaqoob on that affiliation alone would be a symptom of what Emerson called “the hobgoblin of little minds.”
Another supporter introduced himself on Clues Forum in 2015 as Gopi Krishna, who earned his PhD in physics at the University of Houston. In a thread on Miles at CF he wrote:
“I came across Mathis’ work at the end of 2012/beginning of 2013, for a completely different reason: his physics. Now, my background has been in studying physics, both conventional (as a graduate student) and alternative (as a hobby), and due to a reference given by a friend, I checked out the physics theories. Now, I do not know if you guys have checked it out, and that would probably have to be a separate topic to examine it in detail, but the long and short of it is that the theory was intriguing, and very effective in explaining most of the puzzling phenomena in modern physics without enormous amount of tensor theories and so on. Since I already knew from my research that the justification for many mathematical assumptions were on a very shaky foundation, I proceeded to examine his idea of a “charge field” … and it cleared up a lot. I emailed back and forth for about 6 months, trying to hash out my questions regarding the physics, and thereafter, I have visited him two times. Once for nearly 5 days for a Physics conference, at which time everything other than physics was restricted to over-the-table conversations. The second time was around the first week of this year.”
Gopi also says there that he got his degree from the University of Houston, and I have verified his credentials through a web search. So here we have someone with a PhD in physics consulting Miles in person to help improve his understanding of physics. If Miles was a front for a committee whose main task was to mark their work with a consistent style like some kind of ghost writer, would he be able to discuss such issues with Gopi one-on-one like that? Would he be able to host a conference to discuss physics? Would his minders allow him to do that? What if one of the conference participants asked a tough question or if Miles forgot something in the over 6,000 pages written by his committee and published on his science site? Seems risky and implausible. Remember these annual conferences were capped at 8 participants. So there doesn’t seem to be much upside, while the risks run pretty high.
And finally we have Steve Oostdijk who has a degree in electrical engineering, electronics and avionics from Delft University of Technology. Steve has been one of Miles’ most steadfast and vocal supporters. What’s funny is that many have accused Steve of being a Miles Mathis sock puppet. See for example the accusations by Kevin Bos in his review of Miles’ first book on Amazon, where he writes “Steven Oostdijk is a known Mathis alias.” Which is kind of weird since Steve has an extensive LinkedIn page and other presence on social media. Any doubts were put to rest of course after Steve posted a youtube video with an experiment confirming Miles’ work on Pi. Come to think of it, “Robert” also accuses some “Team Mathis” supporters of just being “Mathis himself under an alias.” I guess that’s another line he took straight from the playbook.
(There is also an e-mail exchange that Miles published on his site with a physicist working in private industry who seems very satisfied with the guidance Miles provided and the theories that informed it. And another e-mail with a different scientist who lauds his work. You could argue that those e-mail exchanges are just fabricated. I suppose they could be, but if not that counts as two more “experts in the field” who validate his work. They could all be wrong, I suppose, but it would be lying to say his work is appreciated only by dilettantes.)
Of course it would be hypocritical of me to condemn “Robert’s” appeal to authority and then suggest to you that you should believe in the validity of Miles’ work due to the support of these experts. I only list these examples as a rebuttal to “Robert’s” argument that Miles has no support from experts. It simply isn’t true. But here, as with anything else concerned with matters of truth, you ultimately have to trust your own judgment. (Although I admit that when I was struggling to trust my own judgment about his work, this support from people with training in the field helped me make up my mind. That and the shills coming out of the woodwork to attack and ridicule him in the most dishonest and childish ways.)
In light of “Robert’s” comparison to other “oddball” scientists, we also have to consider the very real possibility that some or much of anti-mainstream science is created by the mainstream in order to be easily debunked. The obvious example is Flat Earth. Another example can be found with some of the worst arguments about 9/11—arguments which seem to have been planted deliberately as low-hanging fruit for the debunkers to pick in order to discredit all skepticism about 9/11. In the case of the planted alternative scientific theories, the conclusion is, “See there is nothing wrong with mainstream science; oh and look what will happen to your career and credibility if you dare to question it. Really now, how could you have listened to someone with such a poorly designed website?” Here I’ll quote from Miles’ recent outing of the Electric Universe project (aka Thunderbolts):
“It now looks to me like the Thunderbolts are just a continuation of the old Velikovsky con. They hook you by admitting what you already know: the upper levels of the mainstream are composed of a bunch of liars and frauds, and textbook physics is little more than an embarrassing edifice of fudged math and bad theory. Using real plasma physics as ballast, they then cobble together an electric universe replacement for the old tinkertoy gravity model, and you feel like you have made some progress. But your progress is illusory, because the Thunderbolts were created to fail. Not only are their theories shallow and extremely limited, but they are purposely created to self-destruct upon any serious reading. Compared to me, these guys are one-trick ponies, who keep publishing the same ten sentences over and over. In 40 years, they haven’t solved a single actual problem. Conversely, in less than half the time, I have solved hundreds of major problems in physics back to the time of Euclid. While these bozos are wasting their time in conferences and chatrooms and Youtube videos, I am solving new problems, doing all the math and theory from the ground up.” [I should point out that Miles also offered a substantive critique of Thunderbolts several years ago.]
Then “Robert” links to a cluesforum thread on the Stephen Hawking hoax along with the accusation that Miles cribbed it – meaning he simply stole their work and passed it off as his own. I encourage you to go to that link. You will see some vague (and also unoriginal) discussion about Stephen Hawking being a hoax, along with almost zero evidence — just a lot of speculation. In fact, the two videos the original poster linked to are completely ridiculed by the forum members. And then on the 3rd page someone links to Miles’s work and the thread suddenly starts to take off with a lot of people presenting additional evidence, etc. Someone even posts the picture with Hawking’s big front bottom teeth sticking out, which appeared in Miles’ paper though they give no credit (if anything, they are the ones cribbing his work). Notice too that Shack tries to spin it to one of his ridiculous over-the-top theories by saying that Stephen Hawking is some kind of animatronic puppet. [By the way, for some reason people find it spooky that Miles Mathis is MM and Simon Shack is SS. But recall that Simon Shack is a pseudonym for Simon Hytten, so his initials aren’t SS.]
In any event, I don’t recall Miles ever saying the idea of Hawking being some kind of a hoax was original to him. But he does claim to have offered a decisive analysis, and in that I agree, especially if you compare his paper to that thread. On top of that, you also get from Miles what you don’t get from anybody at cluesforum: a very penetrating insight into why the hoax was perpetrated – an explanation that follows the conclusions he reached from over a decade of picking apart mainstream scientific bullshit (but then also reconstructs it without simply throwing up his hands and declaring that all science is bullshit).
Go, Team Mathis, Go!
People like “Robert” always try to sell you an inverted version of reality where white is black and up is down. In his telling, “Miles Mathis” is surrounded by a posse of flunkies who place their made-up hero on a pedestal and are always standing at the ready to shout down criticism and close ranks: a “web-brigade of friends [who] can shove [his work] down people’s throats in comment-threads far and wide;” “cyber-friends [who] charge into any forum and defend their guy tooth and nail.”
In “Robert’s” topsy-turvy version of reality, criticism of Miles on comment threads “far and wide” will be quickly shut down. My experience has actually been the opposite. Outside the realm of PoM, whenever I bring up Miles’ work, it almost always brings people out of nowhere immediately who try to discredit or dismiss him and his work. Even on a forum like Reddit’s conspiracy subreddit or fakeologist (just look at the comments on the black frosting post). And this is especially true with his scientific work. In fact, it was this experience I had on several occasions that helped to convince me that he was legit: If random, anonymous people were appearing out of nowhere trying to convince me that he was wrong using pathetic arguments without any substance, then to my mind it was a good indication that he was really on to something.
Here’s a personal example: when I posted my paper that tries to apply his theories to LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions AKA ‘cold fusion’) at a LENR discussion forum, the reaction was most curious. Within minutes, someone replied with “Pi=4?” The paper I posted made no mention of Pi, and Miles’ papers on Pi are way down at the bottom of his website. So how did he so quickly find, read, digest and refer to it? A few minutes later, somebody posted “Does he really believe that Stephen Hawking died in 1985 and has been played by an impostor since then?” While it’s true that his paper about Hawking does appear on his science site, it is also down towards the bottom. How could somebody so quickly have found and read that paper? It was clear that people were almost immediately chiming in with things that seemed purposefully designed to discredit him; and it was clear they were using ammunition they had at the ready. The other thing about that thread is that many of the people commenting were first-time posters, most of whom would never be heard from again. Now go ahead and look at the commenters on the thread about Miles’ genealogy. How many are first-time posters? A lot.
I quickly came to suspect that the site where I had posted that LENR paper was itself carefully monitored and that shills were being sent in to secure the breach. My first clue actually came when I e-mailed the site owner my paper for submission and he didn’t reply. I then wrote to him in a different comment thread, and he said he never got my e-mail. So I sent him again. He looked for it and said he found both e-mails had been diverted to his trash folder. Not his spam folder. His trash folder. When was the last time somebody sent an e-mail to you that found its way mysteriously to your trash folder? I have never had that happen before or since. That was the first time weird e-mail anomalies happened to me in connection with Miles, especially his physics work, but it would not be the last, and our correspondence has been repeatedly stymied. I know I’m not the only one who has had that problem corresponding with him. He didn’t change his e-mail address for nothing, you know.
I had a somewhat similar experience over at cluesforum when someone started a discussion of his work on Pi. It was just me and Vexman explaining and then defending Miles against an onslaught of substance-free and repetitive criticism, much of it from people who said they joined cluesforum just to chime in to that debate. (I’m not imagining things: to become a cluesforum member you have to submit a statement about why you’re joining, and IIRC at least two people stated that was their reason for joining.)
I’ll give you another example. Here is an entry on what appears to be a very obscure blog from July 31, 2013. A scarce 3 hours after the post went up, the “criticism” starts and just keeps rolling in. People appearing out of the woodwork to bash Miles and his work. Some of it really puerile, like: “Miles is out of his mind. He might think that there is a god but he is just a child. If this artist ever sees a 25 feet tall man walking to his house he would think that this 25 feet tall man was a real thing. So do people who take L.S.D. think. So we now know that this Miles Mathis is just a drug taker. Hey Miles. You could just smoke some pot and get high and see what is not real.” Um, okay…
Yes, there are supporters in the comments, but most of them arrived quite late to the party, probably after doing a web search for Miles Mathis, which is how I found that blog (on the 3rd page of google results). But supporters are still heavily outnumbered by denouncers.
This Quora post is another example. To my eyes the question seems to have been posed simply a set-up for them to post a derogatory response. And then there is his entry in Rational Wiki, to which Miles replied, with typically perspicacious logic: “If they are right and I am just a deluded crank … why the obvious and pathetic smear campaign? Do you really need to smear deluded cranks? No, logically and rationally, you can ignore deluded cranks, because they are no threat to any real science. Therefore, logically and rationally, the fact that they feel it necessary to slander me with this prominent transparent project is another sign they are threatened.” Ditto for “Robert.”
And no matter where you go on the web, the criticism sounds the same; it has the same form and tone. It rarely addresses substance, or when it does it frames his arguments in a disingenuous way in order to dismiss them or make them sound totally absurd. I have been told on multiple occasions from different commenters that they are in graduate school in math or physics and that they print out his papers and pass them around the department for a laugh. When I first heard that, it made me pause and question myself. But knowing what I do of graduate school life, I found it far fetched. Grad students usually don’t have time for that, and that doesn’t sound like how they unwind. But when I heard it a second time in another place, I realized it’s one of their scripted talking points designed to make you feel like you yourself are a laughingstock for giving his work any credence.
What’s the Point?
One of the things that is clearly lacking from “Robert’s” hatchet job is what he thinks is the point of this physics psy-op. (The same can be said for Kevin’s piece on Miles’ genealogy.) Is it merely a Waste Our Time™ strategy as “Robert” suggests? If it is, I’d say it’s failing badly. First of all, most people don’t even bother trying to read it because they feel it is ‘above their pay grade.’ So right off the top it wastes exactly zero time for most people. Some people start reading it but find they either don’t understand it or disagree with it, so they stop reading. So it doesn’t waste much of their time. And then there are those of us like myself, Vexman, Jared and many others who feel that the profound and penetrating insights into the physical world we have gained are well worth the time we invested. Do you feel you’ve wasted your time reading Miles’ conspiracy work, or do you, like me, feel you have gained profound and penetrating insights into history and politics and strategies of rule?
You might counter by saying the putative “Miles Mathis project” is the same as the Electric Universe gambit, a way to steer critics of mainstream science down a dead-end alley. Well if that’s the case, then Miles certainly doesn’t act like someone who is trying to build a following. “Robert” finds it inexplicable that Miles never joins the discussion on a physics forum devoted to him in order to have his “huge” ego stroked. But he fails to point out what is really inexplicable: if Miles was the face of some larger project aimed to divert these people into a dead end, wouldn’t he (or someone on the committee pretending to be him) get down in the trenches to rally the troops? I think the answer is obviously yes. And yet, Miles certainly doesn’t seem eager to rally the troops or recruit as many people as possible into his camp. Remember that the Electric Universe folks spend their time in conferences and chatrooms and Youtube videos. If this was a committee running a project, you’d at least think that someone would be assigned to hob nob with the hoi polloi as Miles’ internet persona. But he doesn’t seem to be trying to make friends or enlist allies, as anybody who has e-mailed him is keenly aware. He ran a few physics conferences, capped at 8 guests, but has discontinued those as far as I know. That’s about the extent of it.
And speaking of those conferences, didn’t Mark attend the last one in 2016? That’s actually how I was first drawn to PoM. As somebody whose thinking has been profoundly influence by Miles’ work (both physics and history) I had been feeling ‘alone in the wilderness’ because I could find nowhere to discuss his work in a friendly environment. Everywhere I turned was a shill-fest. Then I stumbled on Mark’s comments in the fakeologist comments on ‘black frosting’ that I linked to above. Aha! Here was someone defending Mathis against charges (which were absurd to my mind) that he was just a fabricated identity fronting a committee. A quick google search on Mark’s name brought me to PoM. (There was someone else on that thread, Brandon, who had also attended and later sent me some pictures from the conference. He also defended Miles against charges of spookhood.)
I won’t rehash my brief history with PoM here. I will say that at first I was delighted to find a group of like-minded people who seemed to admire Miles’ work and take it seriously. So I find it very surprising to see Mark publishing this latest piece. He was there for four days at a conference where people were discussing Miles’ work in physics. Did Miles seem like he was working from prepared notes? Did it seem like the questions he got were planted or that he hemmed and hawed or found it difficult to answer them? Or did it instead seem like he was spontaneously relating knowledge he understood at a deep level, as if he himself had come up with those ideas himself? Was there any hint or indication that the physics work was not of his own creation? And again, if you were fronting this psyop, why would you open your house up to a bunch of strangers to ask you questions about an immense corpus of physics papers unless you felt you could answer them and discuss the work competently and confidently? That doesn’t sound like something a clown would do. Maybe a high-wire trapeze artist, but not a clown.
And speaking of artists, let’s not forget that before Miles started writing on physics, he was writing scathing critiques of modern art and artists and art critics. That the CIA has exclusively promoted modern art during the 20th century (and that their plutocrat masters have profited handsomely from that promotion) is well known. It is not even ‘conspiracy theory’ anymore, since the CIA has admitted their promotion. So are they also behind his critiques of modern art? Why? And if not, why would they choose Miles of all people as a vehicle for their scientific pastiche?
And so again I ask: if Miles’ work on science is the product of an elaborate psyop, what is the point of it? All I hear are crickets.
Coda
I have been corresponding with Miles by e-mail for a little over two years now. Part of my conclusion that he is genuine comes from the texture of those e-mails, which is something that is inherently difficult to relate. One thing that stands out was that when I sent him my paper on Gandhi, he wrote back saying that he had sent it to a friend of his who was from India, and conveyed to me his friend’s reactions. Later when I posted the work on cluesforum, I would learn that the friend he was referring to was none other than Gopi (who commented on my post, identifying himself as Miles’ “Indian friend”). You will remember that Gopi is the guy with the PhD in physics who had sought out Miles’ scientific advice and traveled to Taos on at least two occasions. Does that sounds like the way a big psyop is run? You may say it’s all part of an elaborate charade. Fine. But I don’t think so. There are many other things I could detail from our e-mail conversations, but this rebuttal is already getting long enough, and anyway I do respect Miles’ right to confidentiality when it comes to our e-mail correspondence.
I should add that Miles knows who I am and where I live, and that is part of the reason he does not entirely trust me. In fact, early on in our correspondence he said he thought I was running a project on him and nearly cut off contact. At some point I asked myself, if he himself was running a project, why would he be so suspicious of me? Wouldn’t he try to enlist any and all possible allies to misdirect them down a dead-end limited hangout? Of course you might think that I’m making all this up and that I’m in cahoots with him and a ranking member of the Miles Mathis committee. And I guess writing this defense will only serve as confirmation of that. I don’t know what I can say to change your mind, but I will point out that it doesn’t make a lot of sense to have Miles discover a worldwide conspiracy controlled by Jews who promote Zionism, and then assign him a sidekick who is Jewish and lives in Israel. It doesn’t exactly add to his credibility, now does it? And he has told me he has lost supporters for publishing my work. (For the record: I grew up in the US in a non-Zionist reform Jewish household and am decidedly not a Zionist nor do I believe in Judaism. I live in Israel because my wife was born here. And no, I’m not his sidekick).
Frankly, I cannot say that I begrudge him his mistrust. From his perspective, I can see how the red flags stack around me (though I don’t come from wealth and nobody in my family has been involved in intelligence work or anything like that). But as Miles wrote in his paper on PoM:
“It would be unfair to ditch [Josh] just because he is Jewish. Some people have claimed I jump to conclusions, but I don’t. I require a high level of evidence in everything I look at. Once I get to that level, I can make a fast decision, but I don’t proceed on hunches. Like anyone else, I start with hunches, but I don’t travel on them. I travel on a compilation of facts. Honestly, Josh is the toughest call I have had to make in my short career as a Truther. He admitted from the start he was in Israel, and my gut reaction was to dump him based only on that. Given what I have been discovering, the odds were very high he was trying to run some sort of confidence trick on me. However, odds don’t always pan out. Odds can give you a hunch, but they can’t provide a final decision. In Josh’s favor he has written two long and well researched papers on Gandhi and Dreyfus, in neither of which could I find any spin. They were good enough to publish, and I published them.”
So ask yourself: do you have enough facts at hand to conclude Miles is a limited hangout or the front for some kind of intelligence psyop? I myself have a lot of facts and evidence to suggest the opposite. Just because he has reached a different conclusion than you on the subject of the occult, or elite pedophilia, or transvestites, or chemtrails, or whatever doesn’t mean he is trying to direct people’s attention away from that. It just means he has a different opinion. To quote again from his paper on PoM: “Not everyone I disagree with is perforce an agent.” Plus, it’s not as if there isn’t a ton of other people covering those other topics, right? So why would Intelligence want to (mis)direct people away from those theories, which they appear in fact to be so heavily promoting? I believe he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
And if Miles is misdirecting or is a limited hangout, does that mean we should dismiss his entire corpus of work? That’s the implication we get, where “Robert” tells us it means that we can get some of our heroes back, even transparent propagandists like George Orwell. What? First of all, if Miles is a limited hangout, that means he has offered much good material along with false or misleading stuff. That’s how LH’s work, remember? So it’s quite a leap of logic there. You would want, I think, to go through and state exactly where you think he’s right and where you think he’s misdirecting so you don’t make the mistake of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But “Robert” would have you believe that if Miles is a false guru, then the other gurus he has outed as false are actually real. Again, what? Look, if you want to reclaim a hero, you don’t have to prove to yourself that Miles is misdirecting. Just go back to whatever paper they appear in and figure out if and how Miles was wrong. You’d have to do that even if you think Miles is intentionally leading us astray.
In closing, I want to point out that “Robert” also claims that Kevin Starr’s recent piece on Miles’ genealogy shows us that “Mathis lies.” That’s funny, I don’t remember Kevin showing that in his paper at all. He asserts a couple of times that Miles has been disingenuous in hiding things he “must have known” about his ancestors, but has nothing to substantiate it with. In other words, Kevin doesn’t show that Mathis lies, he claims it. But through “Robert’s” alchemical sophistry, empty claims have somehow turned into convincing demonstrations. I for one, am not falling for it.
Update: Miles has a few cutting remarks to add in the latest addendum to his earlier response about his genealogy. And Vexman has now chimed in as well.
Later update: Mark Tokarski promises that more hit pieces are on the way. And I promise not to respond to them. This one took way too much time to compose as it is. I refuse to be baited into losing any more time on this subject. And anyway, judging from what I’ve seen so far I can already tell that whatever they have to say will be “not even wrong.” Just a lot of jealous bluster and disingenuous patter.
One thing I will say: I have never complained about not being able to comment over there. I simply pointed to the absurd hypocrisy of starting a blog whose purpose is “discussion” (it’s in the name of the blog for crying out loud!) and yet to forbid discussion. I believe this is the same point Miles is making, where he has seen on more than one occasion where discussion about his work has been shut down on forums that were created for discussion. But if your site was never created to allow discussion in the first place (see e.g., www.mileswmathis.com), then there is no hypocrisy, is there?
Also note the reason Mark gives for closing down discussion: “Team Mathis sits outside the gate waiting to be let in, and once that happens this blog will become a moonscape littered with debris.” Why is that? First off note the topsy-turvy depiction of reality. He gives you the impression that the site is being circled by Team Mathis jackals who will flood the gates once comments are enabled. But if you look at the comments of the genealogy post at the “discussion” site before they were shut down, it runs very much in favor of Kevin. Roughly 3 to 1 if not more, depending on whether you count posters or posts. No, the reason it would become a moonscape is because “Team Mathis” has the better of it and would continue to tear apart the “arguments” of the other side, littering the comments section with the debris of demolished sophistry, obliterated fallacies and dismembered straw men. Like in every other case where a discussion board has shut down discussion of Miles’ work, it is an act of desperation.
I could care less if Mark doesn’t allow discussion at any of his sites. I certainly won’t be commenting at any of them in the future even if he does open the gates. In fact it would be better if he didn’t allow comments, since he has allowed a once disciplined comment section at PoM to turn into a complete shill fest.
I turned off comments on this particular post since I did not want to be baited into wasting more of my time on it. I know my weaknesses. One of them is the urge to respond to disingenuous, poorly reasoned criticism about things I care deeply about, like, you know, the truth. So the only way to protect myself from that weakness is to close comments. It’s the same reason why I don’t keep any sweets in the house, either, since I know I won’t be able to resist. Will power is not my strong suit, and this second update is a testament to that. However, the comments on all the other entries in this blog are still active. And as always you can contact me directly via the contact page if you wish to pick up the gauntlet.
Further update: I woke up this morning with the realization that it was a mistake to close comments here. I knew that it might give the impression that I, too, am afraid of criticism and counter-arguments, whereas in fact I simply didn’t want to be bothered swatting flies. But the realization I had this morning is that the arguments on the other side are so bad that they defeat themselves. I don’t even need to respond. So I’m taking this as an exercise in self-control. Maybe it will even help me kick-start my diet. So I’ve opened comments — have at it! But keep it civil.
Update May 22: I’ve been meaning to get to this for awhile. Apparently after seeing that their attack on Miles (the one I responded to above) failed to land any punches or be taken seriously be all thinking people, they followed up by doubling down on some even more ridiculous, illogical and libelous accusations. These include the accusation that Miles is either a pedophile or a pederast who agreed to act as a front for TPTB in exchange for an easier sentence, namely house arrest. On top of that Miles is accused of having taken naked pictures of a young girl and put them in a book that he keeps in his house. At the same time they also accuse him of being homosexual, so go figure. The whole thing is beyond ridiculous. It is easy to look up people who have been convicted of sex crimes. I’ve done it. Miles isn’t on the list. Nor does he have a criminal record. That is also easy to confirm. You would have thought the snakes at PoM would have done that before posting such accusations and opening themselves to a libel suit, but as Miles has lamented, “How do you sue Intelligence?” I remember somebody once insinuated to Mark that his brother had probably been a pedophile since he was a Catholic priest. He was fit to be tied. But apparently it’s OK to accuse others of that based on zero evidence. The whole thing is really sickening.
And as for the book, well, of course they don’t let convicted sex offenders keep naked pictures of little girls around, do they? On top of that we have heard from Brandon, who attended the last conference that Miles hosted in 2016. Miles showed the “Tess Book” to Brandon on the last day of the conference, and Brandon says the pictures and paintings in the book are innocent and fully clothed. You can find many of them on Miles’ website and judge for yourself if they look sexualized in any way. How do we know Brandon was really at the conference, you ask? Because he sent a pictures he took of Miles sitting around a table at a restaurant flanked by conference attendees, including none other than Mark Tokarski.
With respect to house arrest, Mark was at the conference and left the house with Miles to go out to lunch on several occasions. If anybody should know that Miles isn’t on house arrest, it’s Mark. If anybody should know that Miles isn’t wearing an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet, it’s Mark. Why he would allow these absurd accusations to appear on his site is something I can’t explain. Maybe he’s still out to lunch.
I won’t bother responding to the rest of the stupidity with which they’ve padded their attack, but I will counter the whole thing with an equally plausible theory: I believe John Candy faked his death, lost some weight, dyed his hair, and re-emerged a few years later as the persona known as “Mark Tokarski.” They’re about the same age. And it would explain the Zamboni parked in front of his house on Google Earth satellite photos. Also note their striking resemblance and the way their ears, teeth, chin and nose match up. It’s a million-to-one shot, doc, million-to-one! Remember folks, face-chops don’t lie, only people do:
[Edit: It has come to my attention that some people aren’t getting the joke. They think I’m actually arguing that John Candy faked his death and was reassigned to the persona of Mark Tokarski. I am not. I am trying to make a point about the absurdity of the attacks against Miles by making an equally absurd argument about Mark. The inside joke here is that Mark used to use this same method where would take two famous people and line up their faces in this way. His hypothesis was that many of the old rockers and famous people from the 60’s or later faked their deaths and then were later re-assigned to a different role. So Janis Joplin became Amy Goodman, Jimmy Hendrix became Cornell West, Freddie Mercury became Dr. Phil, etc. etc. It says something about Mark’s discernment, which in turn tells us something about the merits of his recent decision to turn against Miles. The Candy-Tokarski “face chop” is a parody. It isn’t even original to me; I took it from here.]
Update May 26: In a separate post, I have collated information on the amount of people who visited and viewed this post in the first two weeks, as well as their countries of origin. I have also collated the supportive comments from this post and put them together here.
Update June 13: I am reprinting here a slightly edited version of my response to Allan Weispecker’s “open letter,” which he published on his blog in March 2017. I am also including some additional material from comments I have made here and elsewhere. He does not allow comments there, so I posted this originally in the comments at fakeologist (which devoted a post to the open letter), and also e-mailed to Allan, following which we had a brief back-and-forth over e-mail. Allan said he would correct the obvious errors that I pointed out in his original open letter, but since Allan is not a man of his word nor someone to be trusted, he of course never did. I am not going to link to his original letter nor to my response, but they can easily be found with google.
Allan showed up at some point in comments on this post, claiming that nobody had ever responded to his open letter, which of course was a lie. So why am I posting this now? Well the blog was just hit with a tsunami of trollish comments that refer back to some of Weispecker’s arguments. Although I don’t take these trolls seriously, I am adding this as a way of showing that they are full of shit. They claim nobody has ever responded to their points, but that’s false. They are deliberately lying. I am also adding this so that nobody can come to the comments section making the claims that they do. So without further ado, here is my original letter with some minor edits plus additional material:
I find your crusade against Miles to be misguided. And frankly many of your arguments just don’t wash. Now if I wanted to follow your method I’d say that because I find many of your arguments specious, it means you’re trying to use NLP to convince me that Miles is an LH when he’s really not. But I chalk it up to sour grapes. You wanted to come to Miles’s conference and he slammed the door in your face, so to speak. He said you’d ask questions no one would want to hear and be disruptive. So in the first case he doesn’t find what you do very interesting, which has got to sting. And as for being disruptive, well, you did write a book about yourself called “Can’t You Get Along with Anyone?” Is it any wonder he might think you’d be hard to get along with?
So let’s take a look at your arguments against him, starting with the weakest one, which appears in Part 2 of your open letter:
As background, it should be noted that you boasted that you don’t post much but when you do “it’s on the money.” You said that his “Paper Updates” are identical to the previous drafts. “In other words, his boasting on new information is totally bogus.” I literally did a face palm when I read that. The reason they are identical is that both the original links and the updated links point to the same document. You see, he doesn’t put up a new document with a new name for each update. He simply updates the paper, saves it with the same name, and uploads the new document as a replacement for the old one. So when you click on the original document, it links you to the updated one. You do understand how these things work, don’t you? Yes, you should. You seem to be pretty computer savvy. Plus, if you’ve ever read through one of his papers before the update (as I have on many occasions), then after the update, you can very clearly see the new information (which he always puts in [brackets] with the date of the update).
Now, if I were to use your “method” of deduction, I would say something like this: there is no possible way that this Allan character (or whoever the jokers are on the Weisbecker committee) could have made this mistake. He’s (they’re?) always telling us how careful he is and how it takes him forever to post because he waits until he’s absolutely sure and “on the money.” Plus he’s obviously very savvy with computers, having edited many videos on his own computer. He has his own website! This can’t possibly be an honest mistake. There is no way he could be that completely and utterly stupid. He’s clearly using deceit and NLP to make us think that Miles is deceiving us on that. No, it’s obvious to me now (although it took me awhile to suck in my gut and admit it to myself), that he’s LH. But why? Why the bald-faced lies?
Almost all of your other criticism chalks up to: I don’t agree with him or I think his argument is specious, therefore he is using NLP and trying to misdirect. Can you see how the conclusion doesn’t really follow from the premises? What a non sequitur it is? (Miles tried to show you that in his “beautiful logic” response to you [“Because I don’t know everything I am a limited hangout? Beautiful logic.”], but it obviously didn’t sink in.)
See, I just caught you lying to your readers, didn’t I? You seem to think Miles is infallible and therefore any sign of fallibility is clearly a sign of misdirection. That’s a pretty high bar and one that you’ve just hit your head on in an unforced error, ya dingus! Or rather I should say, you lying hypocrite!
You say that he must know why the JFK assassination was hoaxed, and is just misdirecting on the reasons why. Again, it’s a non sequitur. Why should he know? You might disagree with his argument about the motives for it (as I do), but that doesn’t mean he’s trying to misdirect. In all your flailing and finger-pointing, did you offer us a better idea of what the motive is? Instead of just saying: “I disagree, here’s why, and here’s a better hypothesis” all you can do is shout “NLP!” and dance around pointing fingers.
The real irony, though, is that you take his inability to provide a convincing motive for the JFK assassination as evidence of misdirection, while you yourself offer up not a single argument about what Miles’s motives are in his misdirection. You say his genealogy work is bunk and his focus on Jews is unimportant. So if you think he’s pointing us in the wrong direction, can you tell us what he’s misdirecting us away from? Or, as you did with Corbett, what lies he is trying to get us to unthinkingly accept? If you’re so far ahead of us, why don’t you tell us what his motive is? And if you can’t or if I disagree with you, then by your standards that means you must be a LH.
Same thing with your arguments about what you call his “guilt by association” tactics, his “faulty” inferences about genealogy, and most of your other criticisms as well. You’re grasping at straws, which you take as “big clues,” and then have the temerity to say that Miles is a LH because he does the same. It would be far more constructive, and in my view, to engage in a substantive critique. It is actually possible to disagree with someone and tell them “I think you’re wrong about this” without saying “therefore you’re obviously an LH engaged in NLP.” That would actually be far more interesting. And mature.
As for your assetion that Clues Forum is in cahoots with Miles: I agree with you that CF is a limited hangout and part of what I call “operation fantasy land.” Flat Earth is part of operation fantasy land. So is the CF position that rockets don’t work in a vacuum. But your attacks on them are completely irrelevant to Miles. What, because you don’t agree with their criticism of Miles it’s evidence that they are colluding with him? Come on! They have trashed him and his work every which way and left. By the way, your time would be better spent reading Miles’s work on physics than coming up with a hatful of specious and tenuous (and disingenuous?) arguments for why he’s an LH.
Your pinpointing of his British-isms is very tenuous. Yes, it’s true that you wouldn’t expect someone from Texas to use those colloquialisms, but the words “nobody from Texas would” could be used to describe most other things about Miles. He’s very unique, to say the least. And not just for a Texan. If you’ve read his poetry, you will see that he has a very broad vocabulary. So I don’t find it impossible to believe that he peppers his language with British slang. And if he has spent time with British people in the past, he might have picked up on a few expressions. It seems to me to be just as plausible that it is a quirk—even if he is from Texas.
[Here I’m going to add parts of my response to a troll named “Ricky” who brought up the Britishisms in a comment, which is also something the latest wave of trolls are coming back to:
“Alright folks, we’ve got a live one here. His IP address pins him to Arlington or Alexandra, VA, which is of course spitting distance from Langley. And he uses a non-existent e-mail address….
Miles later wrote to me about [the Britishisms] in an e-mail, which I will share here:
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“I don’t feel like I have to explain everything to trolls, and most times prefer not to answer them, but on the topic of my “Britishisms”, it is really no different than my occasional use of French or Latin. I know this stuff, so I sometimes insert it as color. I do that less than I used to, one because some readers see it as showing off and two because others see it as chaff. They don’t know these things and don’t want to look anything up. The Britishisms are somewhat different, because I use them for a slightly different reason. I usually use them to avoid American obscenities, since–being foreign–they seem slightly less raw. Some of my readers complain any time I use the word shit or fuck, and shite just seems to me to be a one-step tone down, for example. To my ear, it is a little less raw and a little more funny, just because it is British. Maybe that is just me.
“I did live in Europe and hang with Brits, so these words did jump in my bag, so to speak. The other thing is that I have read a lot, as anyone can tell, and that reading has been heavy with British novels, going back centuries. Also, I wrote the Lord of the Rings sequel, putting it as far as possible into British English, down to the spellings, in order to match the feel of Tolkien. Some of that rubbed off, like the way I usually put final quotation marks inside the period, for instance. In some cases, the British usage makes more sense to me, and I have never understood why American final quotes are hanging outside the period. But since I am not anal about this stuff, it can vary depending on my mood. I get emails from people bothered by this, but I just ignore it. If, given all my content, they wish to talk about that, I can’t be bothered.”
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Well, to his credit he can’t be baited into wasting his time responding to these idiotic “arguments,” but I can unfortunately. What he said rings true to me, because I can relate: I had an advisor in grad school who was Australian, and some of his expressions have rubbed off on me. I still find myself using them some 15 years after graduating. Words like “reckon,” “wombat,” “get stuffed,” and “dingus,” As in: “I reckon you’re a right dingus, ‘Ricky.’ Get stuffed, you wombat.”]
<Back to my original response:>
One more thing: you repeat again and again in the Part II post that nobody on the Clues Forum thread addressed your argument about the microphone shadow. (Frankly I’m still confused about what your argument is as to why he didn’t point that out.) But that’s also a lie. In that thread I responded to your specious argument about his “impossible” word count, and in this comment I specifically responded to your shadow argument:
“And as for the microphone shadow, I’m not convinced you’re right, mainly because it’s a bit difficult to say exactly what position the mic is in. If you look at the shadow cast by Jack Ruby, it goes behind him and to the right. Well the shadow is also behind the mic and to the right. The angle looks a little off, but it’s hard to say for sure given that the location of the mic vis-a-vis the lights is hard to triangulate. But if it’s off, it’s only a little bit off. Maybe MM didn’t answer you because he also didn’t think you were right.
“If you’re right, then it’s hard to say why someone would have added that in there. Your conclusion is that it is a sign that the clues pointing towards a hoax were placed deliberately for us to think the event was hoaxed when in fact it was real. In other words, you’re saying the hoax is a hoax. I suppose it’s possible, but I doubt it. If it was indeed pasted in, I would guess it’s one of those little details they’ve added to troll us. They love trolling us.”
Do you realize how badly you’ve torpedoed your credibility with these demonstrably false accusations? Why should anybody believe any claim you make if you can’t get basic facts straight? Or as you would say: Your claim that nobody ever addressed the microphone shadow is another lie. But why, Allan, why the bald-faced lie?
I could go on and enumerate other problems with your argument and provide you will all the other evidence I have and reasons I believe that he is NOT an LH. (Though of course I cannot rule out the possibility). I could also go on and dissect your arguments to expose the “hidden” workings of your NLP. But I think I’ve made my point, and I’ve got better things to do.
[That’s the end of my response, but I want to add something else. If you look at the video coverage of the Oswald ‘assassination,’ you’ll see that there are bright flood lights in front of the scene from different angles. This means that the camera flash was not the only thing lighting this scene. I just went back to the JFK paper to look again at the picture in question and found this addendum Miles added to the JFK paper in February: More indication of that was found by other researchers after I published this paper. Although I used very little of the research of others in compiling this paper originally, a small amount of good research has come out afterwards, possibly in response to my findings. A YouTube video posted by Amy Joyce in 2017 compares the still photos to the films, tracking the camera flashes. She finds flashes for the photos of Jack Beers and others, but none for the iconic Bob Jackson photo above. I will be told he shot without a flash, but we can see that isn’t true. The shadows we see are from a flash, since they are cast directly backwards. If he had been relying on the lights above, the shadows would cast down. This means the event was run at least twice, which explains the discontinuities I find just below.]
Now nobody can come a callin’ parroting Weispecker and claiming in good faith that his points haven’t been addressed. They may not find it satisfactory, but if so they should say why. Therefore it is with a clean consciences I can say that henceforth, ANY comment that repeats Allan’s specious arguments without substantively addressing my response or Miles’ addendum–and especially any claims that Allan’s points haven’t been addressed–will be deleted. It’s that simple.
DF said:
Does anyone have time/interest to check this out ?
On Monday night ‘ Jeopardy ‘ there seemed to be a category
that had spook type answers/questions , one of the A/Q’s
had to do with Victoria Woodhull ( featured in one of
Miles’ recent papers ) another A/Q was J.W.Boothe .
So today I see and remember that Kate Spade was a Q to an A
in a ‘ Designers ‘ category , broadcast the night before she died .
this site skips over archiving that show ( 06-04-18 ) wtf ?
http://j-archive.com/showseason.php?season=34
This site has video , but I’m at work and can’t watch it , I think
the spook category was in the Double Jeopardy round .
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6l1m7m
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Mathis der Maler said:
All mainstream trivia has been taken over by Intel. I mentioned that regarding Sporcle, but it is also true of Jeopardy. They want you memorizing their propaganda and forgetting any real history. Local pub trivia here is the same way, which is very annoying.
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R T said:
Did you notice the contestant himself was named Ian Booth? And that he was a trade guy from Washington DC? I bet that’s why the question was regarding booth, because this guy is an ancestor.
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Alan Ackley said:
Some satellite logic:
All orbits decay over time. The main cause is atmospheric friction. This is never zero since the atmosphere gets thinner but never is absolute vacuum. There are always some particles for the satellite to run into and slow it down. So the main adjustment needed to keep an item in the same orbit is to counter that friction, and the lower the orbit the more friction there is. An elliptical orbit is not unstable. It is just as stable as a circular orbit. Once the orbiting item starts to hit thicker parts of the atmosphere then the orbit will decay quickly and the item will fall. A higher orbit will last longer than a lower orbit because there will be less friction, and so over time less reaction mass will be needed to keep on adjusting the orbit.
If there is lift from the charge field, or electrical repulsion between moons or planets that are charged negatively like the planet Earth is, then that adds some complexity to this that is beyond my current ability to visualize.
You can see some satellites that orbit around every 90 minutes, Since they can be seen it seems pretty empty to claim orbiting would not be possible. People have been watching them since Sputnik went up. Orbits taking even a little less than 90 minutes would fall out of the sky pretty quick. Geosynchronous orbits are by definition 24 hours, and no doubt someone has done the calculations about how much reaction mass is needed to maintain these orbits, and that probably defines the lifespan of such satellites. Since our satellite dishes are pointing at them it is ridiculous to claim they are not there. I suppose it might be possible to electrically attract some of the thin gas up there to add to the store of reaction mass. An efficient way to do that would be a valuable invention they would be glad to steal and use.
If you say that the temperature of the very thin gas is quite high, well, yes it is but if a molecule at 10,000 degrees hits a large plate it does not have enough thermal mass to melt the plate since a tiny particle will not actually store much thermal energy even if it’s temperature is high. If a satellite gets hot, or cools, the main way the heat arrives or leaves it is by thermal radiation, since conduction and convection are not happening. Controlling radiating surfaces with texture or reflectivity would be useful. It should also be possible to pump or conduct heat from the warm (sunny) side of a satellite to the cool side to radiate it away. I don’t know how satellites are thermally regulated but this is not an impossible engineering problem.
The radiation belt and the micro meteors do leave some room for real skepticism but orbital mechanics do not offer much reason do cast doubt on satellite narratives.
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rolleikin said:
But, Alan, what is heating up those air molecules? And, why does that heat source not heat up the satellites too?
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Jared Magneson said:
Insolation is heating up the thermosphere, as the sun’s charge meets the Earth’s charge at this altitude. This meeting is the cause of the aurorae directly. Solar photons meeting terrestrial photons – causing spin-ups and spin-downs of all kinds. It’s the same mechanism that causes the moon’s obscene brightness and Enceladus’ incredible way-over-unity glow as well, though much higher up since the Earth has a denser atmosphere and those moons do not.
Miles writes in detail about it here:
Click to access encel.pdf
And here:
Click to access encel2.pdf
We see a similar effect in the sun’s corona as well. That’s where solar charge most heavily meets galactic and planetary-return charge, and of course the corona is far hotter than the sun’s surface. It’s theorized that most of the fusion of larger atomic structures (such as Uranium even) happens in the corona, while in the sun itself most of the fusion is of the Hydrogen to Helium type. A proton being slammed into another, with neutrons sandwiched in between.
So I can see where Alan is coming from regarding heat in the Thermosphere. Heat is just photon density in a given volume, of course. So in the Thermosphere we have a lot more photons meeting and colliding, spinning up into visible ranges (auroras) and higher-energy photons such as X-rays and gammas being spun down into infrared. It doesn’t mean that a satellite or other craft would be “cooking” necessarily, since it’s not a band of “temperature” the way we think about it at the surface.
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rolleikin said:
But, why doesn’t it heat up the satellites too?
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Jared Magneson said:
It should heat them up considerably – especially since they’re moving very fast laterally as well, which means (according to Miles paper “Lift on a Wing”) the satellite should also be encountering much MORE charge than the atmosphere around it. Granted, the Thermosphere is also moving, but satellites wouldn’t often be matching this motion and they should be encountering more charge as a result. More from Earth coming up, at least.
I agree, shielding doesn’t seem to account for this, especially since they don’t know about the charge field (or admit it, if they do) at all.
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Bill haber said:
A few items regarding satellites:
1) whIle all satellites in the same orbit have the same speed to maintai orbit, the relative velocities can be quite high as with equitorial and polar orbits crossing.
2) thermal control is a big deal in space. Almost all satellites have reflective film to shield the sensitive parts from solar exposure
3) the heat of friction during re-entry is another big deal. Capsules have a curved heat shield on the bottom; the space shuttle has the tiles over the outer skin. Re-entry without protection is to burn up, as with SkyLab.
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Josh said:
“If there is lift from the charge field, or electrical repulsion between moons or planets … then that adds some complexity to this that is beyond my current ability to visualize.”
Miles did the math here: http://milesmathis.com/lagrange2.html
His paper on celestial mechanics provides a visualization of some of the issues involved: http://milesmathis.com/cm.html
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Jared Magneson said:
I like to visualize it this way, surely influence or borrowed from Miles’ multiple descriptions:
All natural orbits are elliptical because as the orbiter gets pulled down towards the planet or star by gravity, it begins to encounter more and more of that planet or star’s charge emission pushing UP. At some point, the orbiting body receives enough upcoming charge to “push” it back out, until it reaches a level where the charge falloff is once again trumped by gravity, and then the orbiter begins curving back down.
It’s kind of like a rock skipping across a lake surface. The rock bounces up, then down, then up again. Only circular in nature obviously – the orbiter “skips” off the planet or star’s charge field, then begins to descend again, then skips back up again. A natural elliptical orbit (non-powered by any other accelerations) finds balance between the gravity field and the charge field, one “pulling” and the other pushing.
(“pulling” is in quotes because gravity isn’t an actual attraction, only an apparent one)
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Andrea said:
Yes, so would I visualize it too. In addition, imagine that the higher the speed, the more the charge field repels the object. The satellite gains altitude losing speed, gets less lift and comes back lower. At the end it stays where it is at equilibrium.
The orbit would be stable, if MM had not told us that the galaxy and the planets change the charge all the time. So orbits need to adjust, to find a new spot of equilibrium.
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ihatestarwars said:
I’ve just been reading the nabok2.pdf on Miles’ website. Is the picture on the bottom of page 19 a paste up? The dark outline of the woman’s (Caroline Bouvier) fur coat seems to continue at the bottom of the dude’s coat with the briefcase (Stash Radziwill), and looks odd to me. If I hadn’t read Miles’ papers and his analysis of photos, this kind of thing would have passed me by years ago. (Did Mark Tokarski put the anal into analysis? Today’s thought for today.)
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rolleikin said:
Here is a larger version of the photo:
(You may have to click it to see it full size).
There is a funny outline along the back side of her coat but I don’t think the photo is a paste-up. I think that line was put there by a retoucher to keep her coat from visually merging with his. This was a common practice at that time.
The photographer also used daylight fill-flash which often looks a bit unnatural when done with flashbulbs as was probably the case here.
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Josh said:
Looks like a paste-up to me. Notice how 3-dimensional she and her coat look compared to him. He looks totally flat, especially his body/coat. But then all of a sudden that briefcase just kind of pops out. His head and neck do not seem natural to me. Both the lines around the collar and the size. The line between her hair and the door of the plane also looks unnatural. I forget: who are we looking at here? She looks to be 2-3 inches taller than him.
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rolleikin said:
Maybe. He may have been pasted in behind her.
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rolleikin said:
Josh, if you like photo paste-ups and vintage rock you might like this famous grand paste-up:
ALL of them are pasted in.
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Josh said:
who are we looking at here?
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DF said:
Josh , that’s – The Band – at the Big Pink House near Woodstock
think the ( Langley ) Basement Tapes , funny that K-Starr also has basement tapes
apparently .
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Lewis Reid said:
How high is the airplane door and how close is she to it? Jacqui Kennedy was 5ft9 and her sister looks slightly smaller here (if it’s a real picture): https://agnautacouture.com/2014/01/26/lee-radziwill-sister-princess-fashion-icon/
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Josh said:
I don’t know. In pictures with her sister she looks to be about the same height. Fun fact: Caroline Lee Radziwill is said to have been born on 3/3/33. In this picture, the stache looks taller than her:
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Jared Magneson said:
The shadow-gradients of their faces do not match, either. Darker skin on the man doesn’t account for the lack of similar shading on the woman. Her brightness looks natural in this one, his darkness does not.
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Josh said:
Courtesy of ‘Chutzpah Erikson’ I wanted to share with everyone this interesting blog on “Hitler the Jew and the fake World War II.” Here is the welcome post with links to some older writing this person has done. I certainly don’t vouch for the information here, but it seems interesting and worth digesting: https://hitler-the-jew-and-the-faked-wwii.blogspot.com/2013/05/welcome.html
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Grace said:
I checked it out and it is fascinating and seems aligned with Miles’ work who opened my eyes to Hitler and that whole project. I am passing it to family members who are history buffs and very interested in the role certain Jews (not all!) have played in major world events. Thanks for sharing, Josh.
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Benjamin said:
Thanks for sharing, I like his angle, and would explain a lot. If true, one question I don’t see an answer to is why they wanted to create Israel so badly? Excuse my ignorance if its common knowledge.
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R T said:
I guess that’s what I don’t understand — Miles’ theory is that at the top, these guys really don’t care much for religion, and I tend to agree with him, they are Jewish by ethnicity and matrilineal bloodlines, but not by religion, so why do they so badly need an Israel? Isn’t that religious stuff? The whole idea of a Zion?
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Russell Taylor said:
Going to hell I suppose is still the ultimate fear. The longer they can keep that fear alive in the vast majority of the worlds population, then they still have some sort of ultimate control. I always wondered why, if religion is made up to control the masses, why prominent people like the monarchy go to church and convert to catholicism etc. They must know the truth, being high up in the knowledge hierarchy. Then I realised it was just a show to get everyone to believe the hype. Unless they believe their own hoaxes? There may well be some powerful entity, unlike anything we’ve encountered before, that uses us for entertainment like a world building PC game. Maybe it can’t communicate directly. Maybe it’s not been around to check on our progress (or lack of) lately. But I doubt very much that a God type entity exists as described by the old religious texts which are written by people who hadn’t got a clue about the scientific world, so blamed everything from lightning to droughts to floods on witches and spooky entities that lived in the sky. That’s one thing I agree with from the Electric Universe people, that ancient peoples saw events, then tried to paint them, without knowing what they were seeing. The shapes produced in plasma lab experiments are almost identical to cave paintings dating back many thousands of years, probably around the end of the last ice age, considering the speed at which the planet warmed. Something pretty dramatic happened to pull us out of that era. Seeing some crazy shit like that in the sky would get you believing anything I guess…
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ihatestarwars said:
It kind of reminds me of the Red Dwarf episode where robots are programmed to believe that when they die they go to “silicon heaven”, even though everyone else knows they just get dismantled.
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DF said:
And Dave Lister is worshiped as a God by the evolved Cat race that he accidentally created , love that series .
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Josh said:
What a bunch of smegheads…
My wife always dreads when we she sees gazpacho soup on the menu when we go to a restaurant, because I inevitably order it and then complain to the waiter that it’s cold. Some jokes never get old. Like when she tells me I’m anal and I respond: “I’m not anal, I’m hair-splitting.”
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lewis reid said:
Are they Jewish though?, that’s the real question.
This comment was there:
‘All the forefathers of Israel were sent to Egypt or was based there for some time. So i’m trying to understand the authenticity of them having The First alphabetical system. Another thing that comes to mind especially with Abraham is he was commissioned by God to go to Egypt. Joseph ended up in Egypt as a slave. Grew in the ranks because of the system Ancient Africa had that even a slave can rise in the ranks if he served his time. We know Joseph was tutored, we know Moses learned as a Prince. So if we are to trust the bible the bible clearly shows that the origin of the Hebrew alphabetical system was and is rooted in Kemit. We can’t forget that it is said 12 tribes entered which was about 80 people or more. And much more left, close to half a million or so correct me if i’m wrong. We know if that is the case that many had to be Egyptian. Who’s to say scholars, scribes, doctors and teachers didn’t leave with them. My personal opinion, all of these new discoveries are being made to confuse the masses more. Seeing that no matter how much they want to hide truth, truth is and will reveal itself.’
A friend had on Paul Macartney’s RAM album (it’s crap), and there was a song called Ram On, which reminded me that the Ramones chose their name from Macca’s use of the name Paul Ramone as an alias.
Kherty (a variant of Aken, The chief deity in Egyptian mythology) Andjety (precursor of Osiris, Auf “Efu Ra”). Horem Akhet (a god depicted as a sphinx with the head of a man, lion, or RAM) Banebdjedet (ram god linked to the first four Egyptian gods: Osiris, Geb, Shu, Ra-Atum)
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lewis reid said:
It’s done it again, it should be: ANCIENT HEBREW DISCOVERY IS ABOUT TO REWRITE HISTORY on youtube.com
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Dearborn courier said:
Might be worth looking at big-lies.org – interest site with a fair amount of info. The view there isnt really ethnic based, more looking at what binds them together through teachings. I.e extreme views on how to deal woth and deceive those not in the same ‘in group’
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Josh said:
It may be common knowledge but not to me. I have wondered the same thing myself. The most straightforward explanation would be that they simply want to recapture Jerusalem and reconstruct the temple. There are definitely rumblings from the extreme religious right in Israel to destroy the Dome of the Rock (and Al Aqsa mosque) to rebuild the temple. Of course they’ve had control of the temple mount since ’67 so we might wonder why they haven’t done that already. Maybe because they know that all hell will break loose if they do, so they’ve got to bring the Muslims to their knees first, make them too weak to do anything about it. But in my opinion they already control the Muslim world, so that doesn’t quite make sense. But it is sort of the simplest, most straightforward notion.
On the other hand, I agree with Russell that these wealthy Zionists don’t really seem like a religious bunch. It’s hard to imagine they would care about reconstructing the temple as an end in itself. Maybe they’re holding a very longstanding grudge about being kicked out and this is part of their revenge–even though they don’t care about the holy sites per se. They certainly don’t strike me as people with strong (or any) religious beliefs. They created labor Zionism, remember, which was a very secular ideology. They themselves don’t seem to want to live in Israel or be closer to the holy sites.
Or maybe they are using Israel as a wedge to further divide the world and cause havoc. In that case creating Israel is a means to further ends rather than an end in itself. I do tend to think that the author of that blog I linked to may overstate the extent to which all of the events he points to prior to WWII were aimed at creating Israel. Though he may be right.
In short, I really wish I knew the answer to that question. It would fill in a big missing part of the puzzle. I don’t know that we’ll ever know. Just as we’ll probably never know what they really believe in.
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DF said:
I didn’t see your post before adding mine , Josh , this subject also very interesting to me as a victim of eight years of Catholic school .
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Andrea said:
You are obviously the expert here. I would like to notice that if rich and powerful people found the state of israel and then buy their homes in florida (neaples comes to my mind) or whatever else, then it has to be a plan to mess up the middle east.
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Josh said:
I’m definitely no expert on this topic. The household that I was grew up in was not Zionist in any way, shape or form. Nor has it ever been part of my ideology or belief system. But you make a good point.
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Daniel P Malpas said:
These so called Ashkenazi Jews are actually Gog and Magog… In Islamic eschatology yajuj wa majuj (Gog and Magog) are released in the end times to create as much havoc in the lands as possible, in preparation for the antichrist (Al massih al dajjal). One of the signs of their arrival is that they will exhaust the Sea of Galilee. Their interest in the holy lands is to destroy the masjid al aqsa in preparation for al dajjal. There time on earth will coincide with great bloodshed and culminate with Malhamma (The Great War). This will hail the arrival of Jesus (Isa) who will destroy al dajjal and yajuj wa majuj and lead the last of mankind to safety.
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Benjamin said:
Excellent response Josh. The temple being rebuilt, along with the destruction of Damascus, is one of the things signified in the Bible as the beginning of the end times. If we assume that is truth, then surely these people are aware of it? It makes even less sense they would rush to bring about their demise! (Unless they believe that fate to be inevitable, in which case their motive is simply to keep power in the hands of Satanists for as long as is possible). Now if they were Holy people, to rebuild the temple would make more sense, but like you say nothing these world leaders do strike us as Holy (especially given all the occult/Satanic symbolism they use. Even if all that is just a guise, no Holy people would ever use it in such a way). I am also aware there are plans in place rebuild the temple, but as you say it can’t go ahead yet due to the conflicting religious/power control of the area. However if war in the area was to knock the Muslims out of Jerusalem, that would probably enable them to rebuild. Now if we assume the Bible is fiction, then it could simply be a move playing to all the old tensions of the area – as you say, means to a further ends, as opposed to an end in itself. They understood long ago that wars were to their benefit, and perhaps they simply create one war in order to create another. That’s the most difficult part of all this. We may be able to catch them in the act and uncover their lies, and they even now have paid agents outing themselves, but their true motives remain clouded as ever. It seems thats the one thing they don’t want us to learn.
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David Behlman said:
Benjamin, as someone who takes the bible seriously, I am naturally curious what bible passages you are referring to here.
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Benjamin said:
Certainly. Isaiah 17 prophecizes the destruction of Damascus, an event which hasn’t happened yet. I muse a major Arab war is something that could shift the paradigm enough in Israel for the current political/power struggles to shift, and the temple to be rebuilt. On the temple, refer to: Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 12:11. Daniel here says that the Antichrist puts a stop to sacrifices (and sets up the abomination of desolation on a wing of the temple) in the middle of the 70th week, or last seven years before Christ returns (1290 days before Christ returns, to be exact). This obviously means that sacrifices commenced sometime before this and implies that there is a Temple already constructed to go along with the altar. Jesus confirms this is Matthew 24:15-16. Revelation 11:1-3 also mentions a “temple of God” in place through the end times. And 2 Thessalonians 2:4 speaks of the Antichrist taking his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
The fall of Damascus and the temple being rebuilt are the next events that must be fulfilled in Bible prophecy before the end times can begin. But after they are fulfilled, how long it actually takes until the end times begin I don’t believe is stated. My guess is quickly, but I could be wrong.
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Josh said:
Benjamin, I don’t know why but your comment went to moderation. I approved it, but I politely ask you and David and Daniel and others to move further biblical exegesis on this issue to a private conversation. If you’d like and agree I can connect you all over email. I don’t mean any disrespect to your beliefs and for all I know you might be right. I just think it’s getting to be a bit too much for this forum. Thank you.
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David Behlman said:
Josh, thank you. I’m open to an email exchange.
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Benjamin said:
Understandable Josh, though I rarely check email. If you’ll allow a link, I would refer David to the following site: https://escapeallthesethings.com/
Much of my own end times scriptural interpretation matches what is written there. (There is some discussion of “current events” which I take with a grain of salt, but I find the scriptural interpretation sound, very literal). They have far superior knowledge than I do, and are also very good at answering emails. I feel that would be more beneficial to David.
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ihatestarwars said:
I don’t know if it helps David but I found this site:
http://prophecysigns.com/prophecy-sign-6/
‘The Last Trump’ caught my eye.
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Benjamin said:
I hope it didn’t catch your eye due to a man named Donald! There are seven trumpets spoken about in the end times, none of which refer to an individual.
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DF said:
I think it goes back to the defeat of the rebels at the Temple in Jerusalem 70 ce , even
if only to keep the false narratives going . whether the revenge plot is real or manufactured
I can’t say for sure . I know Miles threw Joe Atwill in with the
possibly/likely controlled Jan Irvin group , but Atwill’s book ‘ Caesar’s Messiah ‘ has advanced my
understand of those events ( things that I feel have been hidden on purpose ) .
I think they cryptically tell us though – Star ( of David ) Wars = ( Sicarri ) Rebels vs. The ( Roman ) Empire .
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ihatestarwars said:
From: http://www.moresureword.com/starof.htm
‘Moloch, Chiun and Remphan are all names for the star god, Saturn, whose symbol is a six pointed star formed by two triangles. Saturn was the supreme god of the Chaldeans.
The hexagram was brought to the Jewish people by Solomon when he turned to witchcraft and idolatry after his marriage to Pharaoh’s daughter in 922B.C. It became known as the Seal of Solomon in Egyptian magic and witchcraft. David had absolutely nothing to do with the hexagram and that star most certainly did not, in any way, represent God’s people. Solomon gave himself up to satanic worship and built altars to Ashtoreth and Moloch (Saturn).
The hexagram faded from Jewish usage for 2,600 years. Then in the 1800’s, in Germany, it was adopted by Mayer Rothchild to mark his house. The six pointed star was used as the Rothchild coat of arms. It is difficult to pin down the date at which the six pointed hexagram star became known as the so-called Star of David. In fact the earliest Jewish application of the symbol outside the Rothchild banking and financial empire is 1873. That was the year that the Magen David was adopted as a Jewish device by the American Jewish Publication Society. It is not even mentioned in the rabbinic literature searches. Other than that fact, no one seems to know when or how the Occult or Satanic star, became the Star of David.’
Also, ‘Murderer’ Dr. Hawley H. Crippen (September 11, 1862 – November 23, 1910) has his family tree up at: https://famouskin.com/
He has Booths, Bennetts, Pratts, and Fryes, as well as the spooky birthdate.
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s a m i r said:
Zionism isn’t to be taken seriously. It is nothing but fluffy, irresistibly sexy, faux discourse by the Jewish Mafia’s script writers and predictive programmers to checkmate the common Jews and thus consolidate the Mafia’s supremacy over an already hopelessly mind-controlled Jewish people – for ages to come.
What Jewish interest group, sect, NGO, court, secret society, lobby group, media empire could have successfully argued against the promise of a homeland for all Jews? None. Many tried, all failed. Failed to the degree that Judaism is as good as dead nowadays, and the genocidal cult called Zionism has become its only representative. Well done, money printers!
In the hands of a mafioso every tool becomes a weapon. That also goes for Israel – if it helps the clowns in charge to save their asses one more time, they will sacrifice Israel on the spot, without blinking. They are the ultimate nihilistic hoaxers, after all.
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Josh said:
This…makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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David Behlman said:
In my opinion, Zionism was and is the prime movement meant to blackwash Christianity, and religion in general. If someone tells you ‘I am a religious person’, will you think he somehow supports something like Israel? If I tell you I’m a bible reading and believing Christian, will you assume I support this physical nation? Many will answer “yes” to those without much thought. And many who claim to be Christian will offer support to Israel without much examination. So it’s working. As described by you all above, modern Israel is absolute trash. Let’s take it out.
I imagine shortly in the future many will hear that “take it out” and think it’s a physical statement. No, I mean from our thinking. We have real things to focus on. I also imagine that in the near future the removal of Israel will be equated with the removal of religion in general. That is how twisted the narrative has been shown to be and I assume it will get worse.
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ihatestarwars said:
I found it to be a simplified version of events, it’s like we’re missing a piece of the puzzle. Ireland Justice Minister Alan Shatter says ‘doors to state were kept firmly closed to Jews fleeing Hitler’ while UK took in thousands, and a Polish ex-colleague told me that Auschwitz (I won’t even try the Polish name) was full of displaced Jews before even the Nazis got there, and that it was a military dictatorship in the 30s.
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Runar said:
Kevin Shipp, the whistleblower, gave out his book on the CIA back in 2012, “From the company of Shadows”, and have this year gained more audience as he made his own Youtube channel. I who usually have no patience for video lecturing have gone through his 3 hour show, and am very satisfied.
His 3 lectures goes through the structure and organization of CIA, many of their MO’s, and also the story how he came to afront them, and lastly a bleak ‘what to do about it’.
He obviously have his republican leanings as he still thinks Trump is fighting against the CIA, but expresses most sympathy for Ron Paul and Tea party activists.
His style is not speculative or fantastic, and it is easy to say that he brings nothing here which wasn’t known from before (by some few internet investigators) and of course, even if he confirms all the known false flags, there are stuff revealed by Miles which have passed him by.
So why do i recommend this ? Because his lectures are so down to earth they are fit for High school students, and they reveal this deep unconstitutional creation to be highly lifted beyond control by its many ways of immunities and also having a carte blanche on defending itself.
Because these lectures can be put out together with a few other works to bang home for ever the common understanding that USA is no democracy, it is a despotic and tyrannic regime – its socalled democracy is just a sugar coating, a theatre which product is centered around making the spokesman for the PTB, (the President), who again wisely stays hidden because of their evil deeds.
He doesn’t say it himself, but his work show its time to “renew” the constitution.
https://www.fortheloveoffreedom.net/ His own website.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAGBT7-06gECLJus3o2SE3w HIs youtube channel with the 3 lectures.
kevin_shipp on twitter
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Runar said:
Oh – sorry about the twitter link – i didn’t know it was going to embed his stream here.
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Josh said:
I didn’t notice, either. I’ll delete it.
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Russell Tropinsky said:
I don’t know why any reader of Miles’ would find the works of a man who believes Trump is fighting the CIA to be interesting. It’s such a false notion on it’s face that, I just can’t take it seriously. I would not waste your time studying his work unless you’re doing it to better understand propaganda and how to spot it.
It’s as simple as that.
It may not seem that black and white but it really is, at this late stage, these people belong in the recycling bin along with anyone who tells you that Trump is a hero.
The speaker must have missed Miles’ paper outing Trump as from the families. Which of course means that he is not fighting them, he is them. That’s the only logical assertion.
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Grace said:
Perceptive comment, Russell! I agree complettely.
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Maria said:
I tend to agree that people who defend Trump have not really exited the club. But I do think there are people who defend Trump that may have not gotten the note. That these people include those working for the CIA is less believable. To me it seems as if the strategy has been to make Trump seem as an outsider to get people on-board, something which to a large degree has worked. Before people have realized, Trump will have managed to be in office for a couple of years and the job is done, and in comes the new puppet. I have not heard all of what Shipp says, but to me it seems as if a lot of it is true, although he makes sure not to breach his security oaths and never says things which are not already out there. I don’t know if Shipp seriously misdirects, just makes money on the side or sincerely wants to out his employers as much as he can.
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R T said:
Suggesting Trump is fighting the CIA is seriously misdirecting.
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Maria said:
I have to agree, but I still think a lot of people have been duped into thinking the opposite. I think they serve people different lies at different levels, making them feel included and like they get the inside baseball. As I see it; the first level of the Trump deception is he is a mad racist womanizer, then on the next level he is an independent nationalist outsider who fights the globalists. Whenever Trump deviates too much from the latter image, various political operators, many of them ex CIA, come out to explain the deviant moves as high-level political acrobatics or 3D chess designed to deter and confuse his enemies. I think the whole Russia campaign is there to anger the people stuck at the first level and secondly to convince those at level 2 that he is the real deal. Now to convince those at level 2, they have had to make friends with them. One cannot also exclude the possibility that some people within the CIA are upset and that they have had to quench some office fires. Having Trump in office may put out some fires and make everyone relax a bit more. Who is sincere and who is playing is anyone’s guess. Some will probably disagree, but I think even Trump himself could in theory be sincere given that it is the permanent private shadow government that runs things and it matters little what Trump does as long as it doesn’t get in the way of business. I don’t necessarily believe this, but I think it is possible. In my view, at some point global capitalism was always going to crash with smaller and national capitalists and Trump is advertised as manifesting this fight. The question is if it has been fixed or it is real. As I said, I think both are possible. But maybe I am just too gullible.
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Andrea said:
Well, consider that Trump is not a millionaire, but a billionaire. That is quite a difference. I cannot imagine a billionaire being an outsider. No way. Maybe I am too naive, but the art of the deal works only in the families.
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Alan Ackley said:
I have heard rumors that Trump is neither a millionaire nor a billionaire, but is in fact in debt. Not that I can substantiate this myself, but if it is true then he is in hock to his creditors.
I also sort of enjoyed the rumor that he was engaged in time travel. This makes his flailing around with wild decisions an “anything but this” attempt to change the future. However I will say that occasionally I believe wild ideas in a tentative way, just for amusement.
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R T said:
I would stop browsing 4 chan, man. You’re swallowing the disinformation, it’s the reason that place exists in the first place. That’s why I stopped visiting Reddit, I realized I was taking in entirely too much propaganda. How can you not see he’s a rather bad actor? There is no depth there, the only reason it seems that was is you’ve read a million “anonymous” voices telling you there is depth, but I promise you, there isn’t. It’s a puddle, stick your foot in and you will see.
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Alan Ackley said:
I read neither 4chan nor reddit, though I looked in past years. Saw the Trump is in debt rumor at Veterans Today, which I visit maybe once a month, and treat with skepticism.
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Andrea said:
I read that Ivanka is a billionaire and I tend to believe that. She is being groomed for some important role and from what I read she is good with the media. Obviously, there are other children so more money has been divided. Also, for rich families it is more convenient to use foundations and shell companies for assets and keep the loans to reduce the tax bill. Trump is in debt like Marx (and all the others) was in debt.
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Russell Tropinsky said:
You’re thinking entirely too deeply into this. He’s an actor. The political stage at this point bares no relevance on policy. To give you an analogy that I think is rather pertinent: you’re watching a reality television show and contemplating whether the main actor is really an enemy of the directors / producers that hired him, and it’s patently ridiculous.
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S.G. said:
Tropinsky: spot on! Why can’t people see this?
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Grace said:
Isn’t Shipp “former” CIA? If so, he can not be trusted because as we know and Miles reminds us as well, once CIA always CIA. Controlling the narrative, limited hangout, and all of that.
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Tom said:
Are we out of beers or has the JD left?
Let’s try this one.
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Tom said:
Miles is of cause the DJ and JD is the Josh Director, getting late huuuuu
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lewis reid said:
I prefer this;
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LeakyGut said:
Hey Josh, I’d like to take this opportunity to congratulate you on your impressive academic career! You are a very smart cookie indeed. 🙂
Actually I thought everyone (who is interested and able to think and google) already knew who you are. Guess this is another arrow missing its target, haha.
What a sad clownshow!
Tacos anyone? Cheers!
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Josh said:
Thanks, Ms. Gut!
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ihatestarwars said:
I had a quick look back at POM (don’t Aussies do pom-bashing?), and the sad clown Mark is still in having-a-breakdown mode. Flying monkeys indeed, ha, so he and his buddies must be friends of Dorothy. It started I think with the Eva Peron episode in which he said something like people were slating his work because the eye colors didn’t match! People said the faces didn’t match either! So I think we should be more sympathetic to him and call a psychiatrist right away for him, otherwise he’ll be doing a false flag of his own with his Heckler and Koch.
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Jared Magneson said:
I feel like a “real” false flag is far above his “pay grade”, much like Miles’ physics papers. 😉
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ihatestarwars said:
Love this song:
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DF said:
Not worth the time to read , I didn’t get past the second paragraph
, a sad story , he’s either a spook or a delusional
sociopath , boohoo .
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Josh said:
Miles touches on Alan Parsons in his paper on Castro.
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DF said:
Meanwhile at Josh’s Miles’ the party’s still kikin’ yo
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Jake Taylor said:
I was googling Glenn Beck and this showed up at the bottom of the search page
https://imgur.com/a/ZIHoRBE
I clicked on the Conservative Actor – “View 15+ More” link and found this
(see link below)
Apparently there are a lot of “actors” in politics.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Glenn+Beck&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgFuLUz9U3MDIzyTNRQjC1pLKTrfQLUvMLclKBVFFxfp5VcWZKanliZfEqRpE0K-f8vOLUorLEksyyVIXE5JL8IgAwHG1NSwAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI6dbg0MXbAhUn0YMKHfsTAmQQzToIhgIoADAZ
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Mathis der Maler said:
Josh may not like me bringing this up after he sent the Biblical scholars off site, but I have a hunch the current rock under the Dome of the Rock is a decoy. My guess is the rock of Abraham is located somewhere nearby at depth, and is known only to a few. This is the only way to explain why the Jews don’t seem to care much about the rock under the Dome. The whole Temple Mount makes no sense from top to bottom, so we may assume some misdirection is going on. The Temple Mount isn’t the highest point in Jerusalem. If I were looking for the real rock, I would look at the highest point. Like beneath David’s tomb in the Cenacle.
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Daniel P Malpas said:
There is a myth that talks of how the prophet Jeremy escaped the holy lands, around the time of the destruction of the temple of Soloman, with the ark of the covenant and the coronation stone. They eventually settled in Ireland at the hill of tara and this was the centre of religious learning for over 1000 years. The coronation stone was sat underneath the throne of England until recently and the ark of the covenant is still missing. What is interesting, is that there was a jewish archaeological dig in 1899 which allegedly recovered nothing.
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Josh said:
No, it’s fine. I don’t mind bible references either. I just think that the issue of what exactly and in what order Zionists would need to do in order to bring about the end times as specified in the New Testament was getting to be too much. As for “the rock of Abraham,” I think it’s not even clear that the fabled Mt. Moriah where that scenario supposedly happened is even in Jerusalem, let alone on the temple mount.
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Daniel P Malpas said:
In islamic theology, Ismael never left Mecca, therefore the rock that he was sacrificed on has to be in or around Mecca… Perhaps this is all a red herring
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Russell Taylor said:
I believe the so called ‘End Times’ have happened many times before, around the time a new ice age begins. There may be remains of hundreds of different species that are either caught in peat or sediment or ice, the most massive or lucky get preserved in sedimentary rock. But humans? We are different. Wwe don’t live in the sea and are unlikely, unless unlucky, to get caught by *sediment or peat, and are much more likely to be either cremated to combat disease, eaten, or shallow buried in soil. Any remains, come the onset of an ice age, will be pulverised and scraped off the landscape, then washed out to sea as particles. Any survivors will be living next to the seas because fish will become a staple part of any diet. So any wholesome remains will probaly be found about 120ft below sea level and anything up to 10 miles out from today’s coast, because that’s where the sea was during the coldest part of the ice ages. Trying to find human remains over land will be almost impossible. This means that humans could have been around much longer than we are told. Intermediate species have been found but very few and far between. So stories of an ‘End Times’ could have been passed down many, many times. Stories of the biblical floods are now believed to have been the massive melt around 12,000 years ago as the last ice age ended abruptly. Plus carbon dating is great up to a limit, and that limit doesn’t go back far enough to be really useful.
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Mathis der Maler said:
Listen not to what they say, but watch what they do.
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Jason Smith said:
Hey Miles. Been reading your stuff for two years now. Jay Weidner mentioned your name during an interview and my journey began. Just wondered what your thoughts were about 4Chan, specifically the politically incorrect section. My feeling is that it is a total CIA front rife with propaganda and misdirection. In fact, the entire ‘alt-right’ movement seems to be a project. I also wanted to ask you if you believe there are two wings in the CIA with conflicting propaganda agendas? It seems like the Left has its own message, and the Right as well. Why would the same propaganda wing of CIA put forth ‘Alt-right’ movement and ‘Antifa’ movement at the same time?
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Maria said:
Wasn’t 4Chan where the pizzagate stories were posted originally? My layman’s guess would be that “Alt-right” is used for black washing political ideas/groups/dissidents on the right and that Antifa is used for the same purpose on the left in order to keep the main stream from taking detours into forbidden territory.
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Josh said:
It’s bread and butter of the divide-and-conquer strategy: manufacture diametrically opposing ideologies so that people cannot find middle ground and come together. It also helps if you can make people hate and fear the other side(s) as much as possible.
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truthdecay412774796 said:
I soon determined everything I needed to know about 4chan after I started hearing about it; I just looked up the domain owner, which was located on Wilshire Blvd as in Hollywood, USA. Next, please…
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R T said:
I’d be surprised if it wasn’t really run out of a military base at this point, I know one time Reddit revealed a majority of their posts are from Eglin Air Force Base, which they absolutely did not realize they were outing the government managing the website. This is when they were still relatively small in comparison to their size now.
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Jared Magneson said:
They do it all the time. I’m still on the fence as to the actual involvement of “those types” in my world, but I see it from Miles’ perspective constantly. Any time a conversation sparks up on Facebook for example about him I get banned or targeted by an influx of hobbits posing as trolls. They just aren’t tall enough to be scary from the bridge.
They never present or win a real argument. My friends might, but certainly not any of “those types”. And the friends tend to learn a bit even when they’re wrong, though there’s a great deal of cognitive dissonance in the way.
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James R Webb III said:
4Chan and Reddit are rotten Black Ops. Most, if not all, commentary is based off mainstream media news feeds. I wouldn’t be surprised if Langley basement spooks post 99% of content. Perpetuating racism with vile memes is the new vicious propaganda tool of Intel. It’s Orwellian hyper-engineering. It keeps dumb people dumber than dirt, and guts their libido with hatred.
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Tony Salerno said:
To your point on ‘Antifa’. I’m in my late sixties. Grew up with anti-war protests. Five of my football buddies died in Nam. Antifa is the scariest CIA psyop America has ever seen on native soil. Wearing all black with hoods and facemasks. Think about that future. It’s Clockwork Orange shit. Gangs of anonymous thugs and hoods violently attacking people in public with clubs and mace. What a perfect proxy army for Intel. Alt-right faux Patriot movement works into their hands perfectly too. Take them out of the libraries and put them on the street beating and clubbing one another from dawn till dusk. That’s the future Intel agencies want. Makes their jobs easier with less heat from the top.
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s a m i r said:
Antifa is a supra-national, unofficial militia of the international ‘Left’, run (and protected from litigation) by the Intel services of the banking cartel. Its predecessor was the German Communist Party’s paramilitary wing, whose 1932 flag is, except for minor details, identical to Antifa’s current logo.
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R T said:
I’m pretty sure those black-clad protesters you always see on videos from Youtube are government provocateurs and spooks. Seems like a way to black-wash liberalism, one that worked on me for several years until I read Miles’ paper pointing that out. People like Eric Clanton, the “bikelock” attacker, are likely actors. Same with the guy punching Richard Spencer, also, likely an actor.
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Simon Bird said:
I’d like to add that the ex-military man who shot all those cops in Dallas in the name of BLM is so completely and utterly manufactured that it makes one wonder what just exactly is happening in the Agencies right now. They seem to be getting bolder, more daring, more sloppy, and more oblivious to fear of discovery. Charlottesville was a painfully obvious psyop full of obvious crisis actors and riddled with spooks around every corner. Miles, I really liked your idea that all the footage leaked on that event was done so purposely, perhaps one agency’s effort to undermine the other. What’s so painfully disgusting about Charlottesvile, among many things (and I guess just the cherry on top), is that fake photograph of the black dude spinning off the back of the car and the stuntman doing a handstand on the right fender of the car won the Pulitzer for photography this year. That photo is so obviously fake it makes me sick. There are also two stop signs in background which don’t exist on simple google street view from that particular street view and they’re elevated above the melee which is impossible, because the street goes down a hill in reality. I guess my question for you is simple: Why are the Agencies ramping up these events so aggressively and with such astonishing (perhaps frightening) regularity, regardless of how sloppy and poorly executed they’re becoming? Thanks for opening my eyes by the way.
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Alan Ackley said:
The sloppy execution of fake events may serve the purpose of dividing the observing public into two lists: The people who believe whatever they are told by “authority”, and the other people. Could they be compiling a list of people who see through the fakery? Once they have such a list then is it possible they would want to recruit some and eliminate the rest? Were this done systematically enough they might anticipate dividing the public into distinct classes of sheep and wolves. Operation Condor indicates to me that this sort of thing has already been done, and next time around they may hope to do a “better” job of it.
Since you are reading this blog, which list do you think you are on ?
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Mathis der Maler said:
I don’t think they plan to take out anyone, which is why I exist under my own name. They don’t need to, do they? As for the ramping up of events, honestly I think it is in part due to my website going viral. They need to hammer in the old nails and create a lot of new events to keep people off my sites. They have to turn up the music at their circus, to try to drown out my melody. It isn’t working too well, since my numbers continue to rise, but even so, I don’t see any violent crackdown on the horizon. I see zero indication of a violent uprising, so it looks like they will just continue on with the blue pill and the matrix, which have worked so well for so long. Basically, they brought this on themselves with 911 and Homeland Security, and they would be facing harder times even without me. Their response to pushback against Operation Chaos was to create even more chaos, but they are beginning to see that isn’t working. At some point I expect them to see some amount of reason and begin scaling back to 1990 levels. Nobody wants to live in the current world, including them. Just witness Hollywood to see the sort of blowback they are getting from their own projects. Do those rich privileged people seem happy to you? No, they have to try to have relationships in the same manufactured climate you do, which is impossible no matter who you are.
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Andrea said:
They definitely don‘t look happy to me. But they have been doing this for thousends of years. In their perspective it is not a big deal. In a hundred years they‘ll do a documentary, a movie and new school book correcting all the mistakes we can watch today.
Nobody is upset about the inconsistencies of , let‘s say, „de bello gallico“, right?
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Maria said:
The rich club looks pretty happy to me with all their cars, mansions and luxury life style. I don’t think such people necessarily need what we would call meaningful relationships.
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R T said:
They’re only human, in all reality. They love to pose and suggest like they’re supernatural gods but they are only flesh and bone just like us, so of course they need meaningful relationships. They probably don’t fulfill that need though, which is why Miles was suggesting they look miserable, and they do.
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Lewis Reid said:
Perhaps they are sloppily executed because they are being rushed due to the sheeple not reacting in the way that TPTB want, so they have ramp up the false flags as they have a date in mind for something special/big planned. Another (world) war perhaps? Another 9/11? Another fake presidential assassination? Or Bankers to be exposed as robbing accounts/pension schemes soon?
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lewis reid said:
I actually wrote this before Miles’ response appeared.
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rolleikin said:
I think the fake events are sloppy simply because sloppy fake events work just fine on the vast majority so why bother with craftsmanship? Each one proves there is no end to the gullibility of the public.
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Peter Fisher said:
I refreshed myself today on Boston Bombing. Bauman is such a falsified lie it’s really hard to believe people ate shit on that. Most Americans laid prostrate on their backs with their mouths wide-open and let crisis actors take a hot steamy pile of shit down their throats. His legs were blown off, he laid around without bleeding to death, and then they slapped him into a cheap Chinese wheelchair and rolled him down the street without a drop of blood in his trail. Where are all these people now? Where’s Robbie Parker now? My feeling is that these Ops are not CIA or DHS. They’re outsourced to MI6 and Mossad. Robbie Parker looks like a Crypto-Jew. But in all honesty, I think we’re being pre-conditioned for a major nuclear attack on domestic soil, or a biological weapon attack. Something really big with mass casualties. Then the families will make trillions on production of surveillance, military, police, and security. They’ll probably unleash attack on some mid-level US city with population under 250,000. They can easily contain and quarantine that population size. It may be Ebola outbreak, Bubonix, or nuclear detonation. Assassinations, serial killers, 9/11, false flags are not working anymore. Time to ramp up the juice on the Wurlitzer. Get it screaming loud. Rents are rising, wages are falling. Time for something big!
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Jared Magneson said:
Nukes aren’t real. I agree with most of your points otherwise, but nuclear weapons are yet another hoax – the largest and most-profitable ever in all of human history. The military-industrial complex as it exists today is the product of this lie. The banks, as usual, are the profiteers.
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Russell Taylor said:
“Nukes aren’t real.” And did you notice the two flags of the US and Korea, shown on the news after the historic handshake? Red, White & Blue and both showing 5 pointed stars? Korea being one state and America being 50. The so called nuclear bomb testing collapse inside a mountain could have been a huge mining explosion. Part of the mountain could have been weakened from decades of mining precious metals to sell to the Chinese electronics industry. I can’t see the North Koreans having a great health & safety record somehow. If North Korea doesn’t have symbolic pyramids all over the place, they soon will have. China won’t be happy that the whole Korean penninsula is about to become Americanised….or are they already pyramided up to the eyeballs? The smokescreen is often so dense, it’s almost impossible to see what’s really going on.
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Russell Taylor said:
Come to think of it, the war games that Trump mentioned that were being practised in South Korea were maybe not so much to intimidate Kim but were wholesale propaganda exercises for the Chinese leaders to observe. Look what we are doing. Large scale with multiple battleships plus subs and right on your doorstep! Lots of 5 pointed stars on the Chinese flag too. Maybe needs updating with the autonomous regions numbering 5 but only 4 smaller stars on the flag. I assume that’s what the stars symbolise. I guess this goes right down to the 5 star ratings system….pfffff! A couple of bad reviews can kill off the small players, leaving more cake for the big boys. Lesson 328 how to undermine your oppositon.
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haggisnneeps said:
Disease X could be next. They also tried to kick start the ebola outbreak in Africa a few weeks ago. Real or fake they get the herd panicking. I find it interesting that the big ebola outbreak a few years ago in Africa was the perfect definition of what the CDC calls biological warfare. And nobody batted an eyelid.
World War Z.If we – the zombies – can’t be controlled by fear then we will just have to ACTUALLy be disposed of on a grand scale. A shame they can’t figure out how to do that either though genetics may be the key
Not planned genetic stuff. They’re not good enough for that. More likely the law of unintended consequences, ineptness, or a pure fluke that will take us all out 🙂
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Josh said:
Pretty sure the whole Ebola thing was fake, just like the Zika virus threat was invented.
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haggisnneeps said:
Did you read the thing a few months ago now (ill try and dig it out) where they admitted that for the last 70 years they have been using egg albumen to suspend vaccines? But they just realised the egg albumen changes the nature/strain of the vaccine and it is no longer a vaccine for what it was originally designed for?
Ineptitude. They have basically been creating new viruses and strains of viruses and injecting people willy nilly (<–thats a britishism for carefree) thinking they would enable the body to produce antibodies.
But since the Avian Flu vaccine, for example, has mutated in albumen, it is now a completely new Virus. So people are getting injected with a new virus and STILL aren't protected against the Avian Flu strain
And we are talking about Millions of vaccinated people injected with Live Viruses and then spreading THAT particular strain everyone else – even to those who don't get vaccinated. Its a crap-shoot
Unbelievable. The law of unintended consequences suggests at some point they will REALLY mess it up and then not be able to come back from it. Kill themselves as well as everyone else
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Josh said:
No I did not see that. Putting Ebola and Zika fakery aside, I certainly acknowledge that some petri-dish viruses could be a major threat to human life. But I’m not going to waste any energy being worried about it.
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haggisnneeps said:
Heres that link:
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/01/15/massive-flu-outbreak-heres-the-real-story-the-media-wont-touch-the-lies-the-hoax-the-scandal/
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Josh said:
Thanks. Rappoport has some good material, but he outed himself by going all-in on the ‘trump against the deep state’ meme. A lot of people got those marching orders after the election. Almost feel sorry for them.
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Jared Magneson said:
Still, as a limited hangout there’s some good information there. Not all of it is crap, but some of it I wasn’t aware of and of course I’ve never trusted Big Pharma or anything they do. These guys can’t even diagram a hydrogen atom, yet they profess to know the inner workings of our bodies and minds? Pathetic.
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haggisnneeps said:
yeah they claim – as Miles says – to know the universe to an amoebas eyelash but don’t even know what makes up 95% of that universe.i would be surprised if we knew even 1% of the remaining 5%. Sorry – should say THEY. I believe WE already know more than THEY do thanks to MM. But like I said before I have my sneaking suspicions they do know all this already and everything else is a smokescreen while they work out how to monetise MMs ideas and profiteer from it. Theres a subtle shift towards that with such headlines as
“Globular clusters might be younger than we thought
Astronomers may have overestimated these objects’ age by 4 billion years.”
Thats a fairly large correction but once made they can use the old snakeskin oil charm to make it look like they found this out themselves when they have probably already created a simulation with MMs numbers in it thats now going to start spitting out correct answers that they will take credit for
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Alan Ackley said:
If “they” are sidelining geniuses and promoting only people they can control then in the long term “they” are not going to be able to monetize shit.
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haggisnneeps said:
But they can control the pace of it. Take their time. Gradually slip in the new knowledge they take credit for while slowly putting in place the machinery to make money. Monetize, Weaponize. Chemicalize. The first three things that happen to any new tech or invention (or talent too as t that has now been monopolised by tptb too)
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Josh said:
They will only sideline geniuses that threaten a major source of their power and wealth: control over energy. I think that is one reason they are so fervently trying to bury Miles. Though I imagine they also employ geniuses to work on their secret projects, which may involve ‘free’ energy, advanced flying machines, and who knows what else. Via the invention secrecy act of 1951, they can keep secret and take control of any patent deemed to be a “threat to national security.” They can then develop those technologies in secret and monetize them when and how they want.
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Jared Magneson said:
I am of the opinion that while “they” certainly know a lot of things they don’t let on to, they also cannot know everything. And if they knew anything that Miles has brought to the table they would be heavily snaking him on it and promoting themselves and stealing his thunder even further.
If “they” knew about the charge field, why are “they'” computer processors still absolute shite? (note the hidden apostrophe in they – ghetto-speak, which doesn’t fit in around here but is often fun to co-opt) One might say, “Those are only the ones THEY let us know about or purchase! Which is true. But if they had photon-transistors already then they wouldn’t be touting their “quantum computing” garbage – they’d simple release the tech to Intel and AMD and Nvidia, maybe even ARM, and let them monetize it for them.
Their rationale has been greed, for the last 9,000+ years. I don’t see any reason they would hoard such tech for themselves, at least not for very long. Let’s say some ~1% top-family crytpo dickhead who has lots of stock in AMD gets sick of seeing Intel take all the glory – BAM! Photon-transistor tech would go to the underdog, and Intel would immediately be irrelevant.
That said, they have always petered out upgrading tech and milked it for all its worth. So it’s hard to say which one is happening without more data, and yes we see new science and tech articles constantly hinting at the charge field and photon phenomena. But while some people in those industries may be paying attention to Mathisian physics, I don’t think they’re allowed to actually talk about him – even internally. The heat is too high. Hell, even college students aren’t allowed to talk about him in class.
All that said, here’s a shameless promotion of my latest video on Miles’ stacked spin theories. Just a work-in-progress but I think I’m getting somewhere and figured I’d share it with you folks. The Photon Story, still lots of work to do:
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Josh said:
Wow, Jared, that video is awesome! You have been tinkering with and sweating over these visualizations for so long. It’s great to see how far you’ve come. Kudos!
Question: if matter is emitting photons all the time, do you think it will be possible to engineer around this emission? It would seem that it would be a big hurdle to developing a photon transistor, no?
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Alan Ackley said:
Optical transistors already exist. Maybe some difficulty into placing large arrays of them onto chips. They were already working on this back in the 1980’s. Fiber optic lines already do data transmission without capacitance. I saw discussion about interfacing areas of electronic components with areas of optical components. It is not just a matter of being able to make one, they need to be able to make a big bundle of them cheaply.
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Josh said:
I’m not so optimistic about that. Just the other day there was a big announcement about another ‘proof’ of Einstein’s General Relativity via gravitational lensing. They’ve also double or triple-downed on gravity waves. If anything, they are shoring up mainstream theory. For an antidote, here is Miles’ critique of the theory of gravitational lensing.
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Russell Taylor said:
It’s a long time since I read that but knowing what we know now about fakery, why the heck couldn’t these images be faked too?
Miles say’s: “But if the theory of gravitational bending were true, every single massive object in the sky would be bending light to us.”
We only see very few, very distant, very faint objects which are impossible to observe properly. Seems selective to me and just more made up evidence to prove Einstein was right.
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Josh said:
Certainly possible that they’re faked.
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Jared Magneson said:
Yes, optical transistors do exist but they’re still operating at the electron scale, not the photon scale. I should say, they’re still creating them millions of times too large. There are numerous papers on ArXiv and elsewhere on the topic, going back decades as Alan said, but yet nothing has materialized.
Keep in mind that while these technicians and scientists tell us they can make Single Photon Transistors, they still won’t admit that the photon is real, has mass, etc.. They still don’t think it’s real, or hedge with the “wave/particle” duality, superposition, or entanglement crap. They’re missing the biggest piece of the puzzle, which Miles has supplied us with but they refuse to acknowledge.
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Mathis der Maler said:
Strange that they tell us they haven’t even opened the sarcophagus of David, to see what is inside, or to test bones or anything. Not believable.
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lewis reid said:
It must have been empty or they found a woman’s bones.
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Josh said:
Every archaeological dig in Israel is highly politicized. Part of the Zionist narrative is a historical claim to the land of Israel. So archaeological excavations tend to be pressed into the service of that narrative, where every ambiguous shard of pottery is said to be proof that the Jews lived there how many ever years ago. The failure to test David’s sarcophagus–or the failure to disclose the results–can be seen as serving that narrative. Most archaeologists do not believe the sarcophagus is genuine or that David was even buried in that location, but the state is content to maintain the ambiguity which they can use to in service of Zionism. I guess if they ever find a suitable replacement site in the current dig in the so-called ‘City of David’ then they might be willing to make it official.
One other thing to point out: apparently it was the Crusaders who fingered Mt. Zion as the location of David’s tomb. But the story on that is also not credible.
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ihatestarwars said:
It’s good for tourism no doubt.
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Jake Taylor said:
This is the only picture I could find of the tomb without the fabric drapery.
It appears there was an attempt to look inside, as evidenced by the large hole in the side.
https://imgur.com/a/q60EWFe
It is interesting that there are “no results found” when we try to search for anything about what is inside the tomb.
I would have thought that those words would have come up at least a few times in public documents but either they have been scrubbed or nobody has ever written anything about it and put it online.
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Josh said:
Interesting. I was able to find one more picture without the drapery. The hole doesn’t look like a hole but just some damage. Or at any rate, it doesn’t seem like it goes through. I seriously doubt if they wanted to look inside that they would start making a hole that large. The penguins would go ape-shit.
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Josh said:
Hey everyone, I know that y’all like to find and dissect fake photographs as much as I do, so I just put up a new post with some fauxtos and invite you all to add your own in comments: https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/06/10/the-families-fauxto-album/
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ihatestarwars said:
I’ve just taken a look at Cara Delevingne’s family tree, and right at the bottom is Joan of Acre (also Joan Plantagenet), born in Acre*, Israel in ap. 1272, as well as the usual suspects, Henry II, Eleanor of Aquitaine, and so on.
*After the Crusaders’ conquest in 1104, it became known as St. Jean d’Acre, or Acre for short. Small world.
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Josh said:
I guess that should be spelled Cara de Levine
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ihatestarwars said:
After reading Miles’ new Rockefeller paper, I did a name search in Cara’s family tree and found Elizabeth of Arundel, Edmund of Langley, also a load of Livingstons, Kennedys, Philips, Spencers, Stewarts, and a Sarah Elvin (fudge on Levin?).
Small world, isn’t it?
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Philip Cox said:
Been researching the Rurik dynasty and came across this:
https://michaelruark.wordpress.com/2014/09/04/rurik-the-true-house-of-rurik-is-the-house-of-orourke/
The Ruriks were also apparently the O’Rourkes of Ireland. Get a strange vibe from the site but worth checking out.
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Jake Taylor said:
Wikipedia lists them as Ó Ruairc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Breifne#%C3%93_Ruairc_dynasty,_Kings_of_Br%C3%A9ifne,_c._964_-_1257
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ihatestarwars said:
Interesting that the name Owen appears in the Royal House of Rurik, Miles’ has outed them in previous papers, usually in connection with North Wales/Anglesey/Stanleys.
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Mephistopheles said:
Hey Miles. Not trying to out you, but wonder why you don’t source your material. Was also hoping you might offer a reading list. Books you’ve read, books you are reading, books you will read. Most scholars reference their works. Why no references at the end of your papers?
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John Cooke said:
See http://mileswmathis.com/booklist.html regarding books.
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Jared Magneson said:
Please cite the source of your opinion, Mr. Mephisto.
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Josh said:
Hah!
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Josh said:
Because he provides hyperlinks to his sources throughout his papers and occasionally references to books and even specific pages. But those are almost all in the text of the papers. And most of that material he uses is available for free (for now) and publicly (for now) on the world wide web.
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Jared Magneson said:
Many, almost all of his papers requiring any citations have them at the bottom already. Which means Mr. Mephisto hasn’t read Miles beyond perhaps a paper or three. Which means that Mephisto is… Well, you know.
https://imgur.com/1pwvpxb
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Tom said:
Nominated for the Nobel Price.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/04/the-guardian-view-on-the-nobel-prize-for-literature-a-discredited-authority
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Jared Magneson said:
About time that crock of shite took some heavy heat. Of course it’s all managed heat, likely to prop up some other, newer “prize”, but it’s always nice to see the Corrupt have their meltdowns and collapses.
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DF said:
The Oligarchical un-free press Parrot pot , calling the corrupt Money Laundering Nobel kettle , black .
” …..When the prize was founded, it seemed entirely possible that the entirety of world literature could be judged from Stockholm by scholars who could all read fluently in the four or five European languages they considered civilised. The cultural and political authority of western Europe has collapsed since then. So has the ideal of a global high culture. That dream, rather than the academy’s reputation, is the loss to mourn in this rather squalid farce. ( end of article ) .
Since you’re here… we have a small favour to ask. More people are reading the Guardian than ever but advertising revenues across the media are falling fast. And unlike many news organisations, we haven’t put up a paywall – we want to keep our journalism as open as we can. So you can see why we need to ask for your help. The Guardian’s independent, investigative journalism takes a lot of time, money and hard work to produce. But we do it because we believe our perspective matters – because it might well be your perspective, too. “
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Amstel said:
I stumbled over that one, too. The few real investigating journalists left are way more likely to work for grass roots magazines at no pay than for an MSM paper that has an income stream from which to pay staff. Since investigations take longer than rewriting a press-release, this is not cost efficient, in business sense. The misdirection, however, is that they pretend the rest of the published garbage would be journalism at all when 80 or more per cent are delivered free of charge by industry, politics, entertainment with ulterior motives. So: In UK, MSM employees get a pound for not clipping-pasting press releases. In South America, grass roots journos get dismembered for writing the “wrong” stuff. At least that was the case a few years ago. Perhaps the hit squadrons are more humane now.
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haggisnneeps said:
He-he love the use of “Shite” here instead of “Shit”. Started me thinking of accents and the “using of” and “hearing of” and “writing of” the same word. Lets use Shit/Shite as an example.
Shit:
Its pretty much said “Shit” the I sound being like “in” or “it” or “tit”. If you are smoking dope — sheeit “she-it”
Posh English version is Shit.
American version is Shit or She-it
Not much variation
Shite.
Wow.This will take a while.
The addition of the ‘e’ at the end changes this word significantly
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Its now “Sh ‘why’(minus the wh) te”
Say Why. The way you use that Y there is what we will call a “why” sound like “eye” or I as in I pad. Everyone knows I-pad. Thats the “I” we hear here
Thats the common or psh version
In Scotland, its the “I” in Ice we use. Sh -Ice – te (without the ce) Shite Ice Shite Ice Shite I Shite Ice, the “I” is ayee – not eye
Now, posh English is “oi” like Sh-oi-te ….think voice or boy – that sound oy, oi…..shoite – but its actually more like “shy” or the “high” sound
Shyte or Shight
In America I think the drawl would make it funny. Like Shaaaht (Bill Clinton – “they’re talking shaaaht ladies and gennelmen , ah dint have sexual relayshons with that laydey”
I would urge you all though too use the “Ice” version. SHITE.ICE.SHITE.ICE.SHITE
It works best and is unequivocal. In my Scottish opinion.
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Amstel said:
Was absent for some time, I see that things have progressed here…
@ Jared: I thank you for your responses, I hope to find the time to answer in a meaningful way. Will do so under the actual posts.
@all: Just thought I’d let you know (if you don’t already) that they have dug out the Bataclan malaise, apparently trying to ride on a wave of created false memories / impressions of those who believed this nonsensical spectacle at the time, but there could be other reasons (Netflix pushing it, Guardian too, link underneath the Nobel Committee piece.) It should be clear to anyone with a halfway decent IQ that any “news-worthy” “event” where this CENSORED Bono shows his CENSORED face must be a false / red flag. What makes me angry is the ongoing and increasing gullibility of fellow human beings, friends at times, who are actually well able to think for themselves but seem to completely abandon this ability when the are told a completely weird story if is backed by a celebrity idiot.
“How do you know that there were no Ak’s?” – “Because i shot them and was shot with them.” – “But still… and how do you know that the picture with the victims were fake?” – Because I was a first responder, I know how its done. That’s not it.” – “But still… how do you know that the media was in on it?” – “Because I ran news floors. Any reporter on a real scene like that with a pregnant woman dangling from a window and not even trying to find her would be fired before the red light goes on. – But still.. blahblahbla.” Which brings me to my two cents on the mistakes we see, a subject which came up above:
A new kind of service industry may have emerged, which is riding on the false flag / augmented reality business wave. Combine “event management” (media, entertainment) with “crowd control” (policing) and you get “event control”. I have no idea if this term is used these days by insiders; but it would be fitting. Like everything else in media, this would be a highly specialised business, one that works largely on referrals. Demand for extras for a regular movie production are advertised. In augmented events that would only work if you can or want to keep all or some of them out of the loop. plus: the client would have to agree, I guess.
Which was immediately obvious to me when looking at a few secs of the Dodge Charger event, for instance. (charlesville?) I can imagine the fierce competition, booking rates are probably exorbitant; silence can be an expensive commodity. I will not be surprised if competitors ‘specialise’ in, let’s say “outdoor / day / medium crowd / no entertainment component / limited ‘fatalities’ / no shooter / precision driver required” as opposed to, let’s say “indoor / night / large crowd / large amount ‘fatalities’ / multiple shooters / live entertainment component”. I am extrapolating, but you get my point.
It would be in the nature of the business not (being able) to disclose too many details to competitors or outside experts (firearms handlers, for instance) Hence those with a more “live entertainment component” may simply not be able to get the armory support / knowledge which may be required at “multiple shooter” job they snatched. I see operational / story line similarities between Bataclan and Pulse, for instance.
One can imagine the liaison for the 3-letter-agency arriving: “Where is my holding area, who is in charge of my coffee machine? Ok, let’s roll.”
Since there is limited capability (or time) for mistakes to “fix it in post” and rehearsal – dry-run – performance not always possible, some mistakes remain to be discovered later. The Charger, for instance, was chosen for the memory effect, I am sure. However counterproductive: Every media clown subscribes to the idea that clichees are always (perceived to be) right. Which is why they are enforced religiously: to permit identification by the subject viewer. Which is us; well, the public in general.
In this context: the correct feature car in that production would have been a banged-up pick-up truck with at least four loud airhorns and hunting rails on the back. So no, I don’t think mistakes are left for “testing purposes”; they just remain. The fall-out will be dealt with by the local media which will syndicate its stories to the next level until the main story line is published everywehre. Social media is a given in any event, but may not work… How is local media buy-in achieved? Ringring, answer: “Dear Mr Mickey Mouse publisher, how about some nice full page ads for your ailing local paper? Perfect…”
i had a chat with a former colleague recently; we had worked together at a regional network, long time ago. We compared the names of the guys we thought would receive a second check from a 3-letter agency. I came up with three, he had five candidates. None of the names matched. It was a small outfit, less than 100 staff. Go figure.
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Maria said:
Makes me think of “Crisis Solutions”:http://www.crisis-solutions.com/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJE14mf5RXM
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Amstel said:
meant to say “shot at” not “shot”. Apologies.
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Jake Taylor said:
Looks like they might be retiring the Einstein project…
“Private journals kept by the scientist and humanitarian icon show prejudiced attitudes towards the people he met while travelling in Asia”
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia
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Jared Magneson said:
Jesus, even a completely natural instinct is now vilified. Every creature ever born was/is xenophobic to some extent or other. I won’t even bother to read their accusations further. Einstein’s attitudes towards people had nothing to do with his science, both successes and mistakes. It’s as irrelevant as these fake people attacking Miles.
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Grace said:
They should hear what the Chinese say about “us”!
ha ha!
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Josh said:
I don’t think so. They’re just dragging his name through the mud a bit. They’ve done it a lot with Gandhi, but the project is standing strong.
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Kapyong said:
Gday all 🙂
Sorry I’m late to the party, only found Miles a couple weeks back (by way of Carroll Quigley.)
Just saying hello for now, (and making sure my name is on the list), still reading …
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Josh said:
Hi Kabpyong, welcome to the party! I will recommend to you what I recommend to everyone new to Miles’ research: start with his 2013 papers and work forward from there. It’s best to read in chronological order because he makes discoveries along the way, and later papers build on earlier ones. I often recommend starting with the Theosophy and Beat Generation paper, but you could go back earlier than that. For example ‘The Real Matrix’ is definitely worth reading, but you probably wouldn’t be able to appreciate the paper on ‘Decoding Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry’ without an understand of his physics work.
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DF said:
One of my greatest appreciations for Miles , is the skill I now have to connect the clues together
when he doesn’t highlight them , as in the Rockefeller paper . The true mark of a great teacher
– to have you think while reading .
… More recently Lucy ( William Rockefeller’s mother Lucy Avery’s ) was descended from the Wests,
Barons and Earls de la Warr (Miles : Delaware). See for example the 1st. Earl John West, Lieutenant General,
( can we assume a Lieutenant Colonel equelavent ? ) whose mother was the heiress of John Freeman, very wealthy London merchant. Given the name, we may assume he was Jewish. It is a variant of Friedman. John West married the daughter of a
Spencer .West’s father had been Teller of the Exchequer. His grandfather was a colleague of Sir George
Booth , both of them jailed for trying to restore Charles II. Two generations back we connect them to the
Knollys, Careys, and Boleyns again. John West was Governor of the Levant Company for 30 years,
and after that became Governor of New York (1737). The Levant Company again ties us to the East
India Company. ….
The other name connected to West in now ( Sachs ) – the current William Sackville, 11th Earl De La Warr ,
could Saxe-Coburg-Gothas be connected to Sackville .The Kingdom of Saxony (German: Königreich Sachsen), lasting between 1806 and 1918, was an independent member of a number of historical confederacies .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Levant
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DF said:
And since I live in the Delaware Valley area I found this new info to me :
Connection to American geographical names
For other places with the same name, see Delaware (disambiguation).
In United States history books, Thomas West, 3rd Baron De La Warr is often named simply as “Lord Delaware”. He served as governor of the Jamestown Colony in Virginia, and the Delaware Bay was named after him. The state of Delaware, the Delaware River, and the Delaware Indian tribe were so called after the bay, and thus ultimately derive their names from the barony. Many other American counties, townships, and the like derive their names directly or indirectly from this connection.
William Kelso writes that Jamestown “is where the British Empire began”.[2] It was established by the Virginia Company of London as “James Fort” on May 4, 1607 (O.S.; May 14, 1607 N.S.),[3] and was considered permanent after brief abandonment in 1610.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Company
notice the word sigilum and all the lions ( of Judah ) on the seal .
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Kapyong said:
Thanks Josh 🙂
Yup, I’ve been reading (mostly) in chronological order, with occasional skips forward on some topics. One eye-opening shock after another.
The Sharon Tate paper was a real high-light. (His JFK paper wasn’t.)
I messaged Miles with compliments, and a cash donation. He replied without saying thanks 😦 Oh well, guess he’s very busy.
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Wilbur said:
You are a fucking Crypto-Jew, Miles. Your genealogy proves it. Rotten scum Black Ops hypocrite
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ihatestarwars said:
Wilbur/Wilber? Isn’t that a crypto-Jewish surname common in Argentina, troll?
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Josh said:
I rolled out of bed this morning only find the blog had been hit with a minor troll attack in the form of a series of comments. Most of the comments were caught by my filter, but a few made it through, like the one just above. The first one started out calmly enough:
“Oh well, Miles. I’ve been reading you for three years now. But on researching honest counterpoint, I now believe you are cointelpro. I’m sorry I must say goodbye, but Allan Weisbecker is right. No one will answer his hanging microphone question.”
But then it deteriorated pretty quickly: “You live with cockroaches and rats and the feculent filth of rodents. You may think you’re bigger than American, (sic) but She will suck your blood dry and spit you forth into the sewers from which you were spawned.”
Lovely. I guess upon seeing that the comment went to moderation and wasn’t posted, whoever is doing this got really pissed off and began sending a series of other comments, one more idiotic and raunchy than the next, in what amounts to another attempt to try to fling their own feces against the wall at random to see if anything sticks. It included such gems as “Take Finnegan’s Wake and shove it up your Langley ass” and “Hey Miles, let me spread my asscheeks so you can smell my anus.” Clearly we’re dealing with a very witty, mature person here.
If I had to guess, I would say this is the same person who earlier tried a similar tactic posting from different IP’s (this time was from the City of London; last time one was from MIT) and using different e-mail addresses and fake names, though in that case the names were obviously fake (like “AntiKrist”).
Whoever it is they are still repeating Allan Weispecker’s idiotic arguments, even though the latter have been thoroughly trounced and Allan has proved himself to be a lying hypocrite and a dunce to boot. For example, this commenter as well as Allan have claimed that nobody has ever responded to the issue of the shadow of the hanging microphone in the picture of Oswald getting shot (if you don’t know what I mean you’ll have to find Allan’s open letter to Miles and read it, if you care. The short version is that Allan thinks the microphone in that picture was pasted in, which must mean that Miles is lying and JFK was really shot and it wasn’t a hoax. I kid you not. That’s his argument.). But that’s a lie, because I did respond to it, in more than one place, and I also sent Allan my response. Allan said he would correct the obvious errors that I pointed out in his original open letter, but since Allan is not a man of his word nor someone to be trusted, he of course never did.
I have already rehashed all of this in the comments here, but since I can’t expect people to go digging through nearly 3,000 comments, I have added an addendum at the end of the post that includes my original response to Allan’s open letter as well as some additional material, including an addendum that Miles added to his JFK paper in February that indirectly addresses the microphone issue.
That way nobody will have any excuses to say they didn’t see it. I can therefore say with a clean consciences that henceforth, ANY comment that repeats Allan’s specious arguments without substantively addressing my response or Miles’ addendum–and especially any claims that Allan’s points haven’t been addressed–will be deleted. It’s that simple.
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R T said:
Nicely done, Josh.
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Mathis der Maler said:
It’s the wise pecker himself. Just means my latest struck home.
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Mathis der Maler said:
Thanks Josh, but I wish you had just deleted them, without repeating the nasty stuff here.
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Grace said:
Terrible remarks! Some people don’t seem to have a soul; they sell it to the highest (or perhaps lowest) bidder.
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Josh said:
Yeah, it is rather vulgar, and I debated whether or not to repeat it here. In the end I decided it was worth showing just what kind of pathetic potty-mouthed morons we’re dealing with here. That this is the level of criticism aimed at you speaks volumes.
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Jared Magneson said:
They said nothing you can’t see on any forum, message board, or social media site ever, but recently their censorship has ramped up tremendously; a layperson might even say “exponentially”, of course without knowing which exponent. There’s a line between censorship and free speech of course, and it isn’t fine at all. It’s thick and murky and often painted in blood. I think sharing those comments is much more damaging to these hobbits and spooks than not. Their crudity and ineptitude combine to tell us exactly what type of people we’re dealing with here.
They were “offensive”, yes, but then at the same time if one says “spook” on a public forum or social media these same spooks will drop the ban-hammer immediately. You cannot say “spooky”, “faggot”, “nigger”, “retard”, or any other word that might offend some soccer-mom somewhere, even if the conversation calls for it. You can only very carefully say “gay” but of course “LGTBHIJKLMNOP” is fine. You cannot say, “libtard” or “conservitard” or even “Fucking Americans/Brits/Russians/WhateverNations”. The hypocrisy is blatant. They don’t play by rules.
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DF said:
“spooky” – Gainfully Empolyed by Humanity Advancing Global Intelligence Organization
“faggot” – Differenty Sexual-Intercouse Inlet/Outlet Oriented
“nigger” – Trans-Dermatis-Pigmented
“retard” – Born to look Handsome Wearing a Helmet/Waterwings
Past generations have turned out OK being offensive
https://www.sadanduseless.com/smoking-babies/
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Jared Magneson said:
Some of those ads are great fun!
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Patrick said:
I had been reading Weisbecker for a while and giving him the benefit of the doubt in his back and forth with Miles, thinking that maybe something about MM’s style and personality was reducing an otherwise reasonable person into periodic states of temporary insanity. I couldn’t stay on the fence any longer after watching Weisbecker’s sad performance when he showed up here and behaved so childishly. Bad job, Alan.
On your blog you complain about losing subscribers with each post. I doubt it’s the contents of the posts, apart from the sections where you show your ass with these stupid attacks on Miles. Sorry, no one wants to see your ass.
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Josh said:
Thanks for chiming in, Patrick. I assume when you say ‘on your blog you complain about losing subscribers’ you are addressing Alan, right?
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Patrick said:
Sorry, not cutting the fog well with murky language. Ha! Yes, I meant Alan’s bandito books thing; not sure if he has other ones.
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rolleikin said:
“the feculent filth of rodents” …?
Isn’t that a German death metal band?
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Jared Magneson said:
Swedish, I believe.
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Josh said:
Hah! Hilarious. Feculent means filthy. So he’s basically saying the filthy filth of rodents. He doesn’t even know how to use a thesaurus properly. That’s pretty pathetic.
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Mathis der Maler said:
CB has told me in email that David Duchovny appears to have read my paper on Dylan. See his song Positively Madison Avenue, which is about Dylan but where, in the last lines, Duchovny says, “Was that Leonard Cohen?”
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Grace said:
I just checked out the lyrics… oh yeah, there’s something definitely there. He refers to Bobby Dylan as a car salesman. I am also reminded that Duchovny was all up in the news 10 years ago for being a bad husband to his lovely blonde actress wife,Tea Leoni, and had to atone by going to rehab for sex addiction. Those bad boys, won’t they ever learn? 😉 Women never do bad stuff; just the boyfriends or husbands. Isn’t that we are being told and sold? Duchovny is a terrible singer from what I just observed in a youtube clip. But the lyrics are telling to be sure.
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cammcnaughton said:
Math is what Miles does … if math is worth defending … therefore, Miles is worth defending; seems logical; does that add up? 😉
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cammcnaughton said:
Or … Math is what Miles does … math is worth defending, as a pursuit … therefore, Miles is worth defending, if not pursuing; seems logical, as well; does that add up? 😉
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cammcnaughton said:
LOL … I must be tired … well, lots of comments here since popping in near 1,000. 🙂
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Gelonus to Glasgow said:
Dear Miles, apologies it’s a bit late; real life and all that, – below is just a note of appreciation from myself, a politics/philosophy student, kept sane by your work..
Before I began to read your work I felt as though I was genuinely falling in league with actual fascist ideas. I had begun to read (and watch, albeit what you might call “youtube-tier”) around the subject of international financiers and their grip on information flows worldwide etc.
I had fallen into the trap of believing that Mr H who led that often maligned German workers party may not have done anything wrong and could clearly see a link between the fall of authoritarian states in Europe and the rise of Cultural Marxism and in my time, the uncapped immigration issue and the use of the term ‘racist’ as a verbal weapon in Europe and the U.S today.
In short, before I read you, I was going reactionary and feeling in a very dark place indeed. Partly because some fascist ideas require one to summon up hatred for others that I just don’t have.
I want to thank you as sincerely as possible from the bottom of my heart. While I feel I’m still in a bind with all this emotionally, your articles on historical revision have shown me that I was falling into a trap where one tier of people fall for a left wing utopia, requiring us to be at odds with what are now called conservatives and the right-wing. I fell for the second tier, which was to see that first tier, and fall for the second, which is the extreme right.
Your work was like a little ray of light which showed me both sides are an act, while the emotion-inducing horror of those episodes in history were the catalyst to shock people into extreme views. I can’t say what really happened or not in those days but I won’t be taking on any alien ideas out of fear any more.
After mulling it over I find myself agreeing with you in regards to liberalism; real, pre-1968 liberalism as you say. Ironically this is in my heart pretty much where I began before I had any political feelings as a child and becoming a teenager. I lost some friends over these issues (maybe some I needed losing, mind you) but it has been worth it. I think you might have saved me from becoming a worse human being in the long run – Thank you, sir.
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DF said:
” … I can’t say what really happened or not in those days but I won’t be taking on any alien ideas out of fear any more. ”
Well said Bro !
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Jared Magneson said:
“Your work was like a little ray of light which showed me both sides are an act…”
I believe you mean “particle of light”. 😉
(Mathisian physics jokes are FUN!)
But jokes aside, I feel very much the same about Miles’ work, Gelonus. Definitely opened my eyes, and gave me a real direction and purpose in my hunt for truth and real knowledge. He even made me a better gardener, without even knowing it! =D
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ihatestarwars said:
After reading Miles’ latest, I can’t help wondering whether people are more stupid now than ever. I remarked to a photographer friend last year that I’d bought a new ‘bomb proof’ Lidl plastic carrier bag and mentioned how could a plastic bag survive the explosion and a ‘fireball inside the carriage’ (to quote a crisis actor), shortly after the false flag on a train in London, and he replied that it was ‘odd’ but nothing beyond that! So I suppose subtle doesn’t work anymore for a lot of folks.
http://goodf.forumotion.com/t1123-parsons-green-most-pathetic-false-flag-ever
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Jared Magneson said:
I just finished reading Miles’ two latest papers, one on New Chronology the other on The Bilderberg Meeting. That second one is beautifully written, inspirational, and also damning but hopeful. I’ll link it here for anyone who hasn’t seen it yet:
WAS I A TOPIC AT BILDERBERG?
by Miles Mathis
Click to access jack2.pdf
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Grace said:
That was a great article about Bilderberg and TPTB out of control. I really understood what Miles was saying and I hope the plutocrats implode. In my world, I simply keep laughing at the chicanery and tell everyone who will listen to not pay any heed to the MSM. I tell all family members and friends and colleagues that I do not watch the news or read a newspaper or magazine. I suggested that a friend take her CNN newsfeed app off of her phone; I told another woman that believes that Russia elected Trump that it was all propoganda.
I think TPTB are biting the hand that feeds them. Since I was born in the 1950s, I’ve seen the sad, pathetic and sorry downward spiraling of the world around us just as Miles outlines in his paper. For those who have ears to hear and eyes to see, the message may sink in; til then, all we can do is walk our own path as honestly as we can and speak and live our truth. Keep your families strong, teach your children right and wrong, take them to the mountains for hikes, biking, fishing. Talk to them one on one, face to face; have real relationships, and be as independent as possible. Laugh at our political leaders when they come out all serious about this and that, whether it’s trade wars, negotiations with North Korea, Russia interference. Laugh and be happy, and next time someone hits you up for money at the local grocery or drug store to “end child poverty” tell them to go to the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. If more of us reduce our expenditures that feed the plutocrats, maybe a difference can be made. All I can do is start with me and if anyone wants to listen, then I will tell them how I feel.
In the meantime, thanks to everyone who’s here to learn and keep an open mind and offers intelligent, thoughtful comments and solutions. May our numbers grow. It starts with us, then emanates to the small circle around us, and ripples from there.
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Russell Taylor said:
Grace, when you talk of witnessing a downward spiral, I think the propaganda is getting to you. Today we have miracles of technological advancement which were just dreams and ideas back in the 50s. This technology is always drip fed to us in highly profitable blocks to maximise share dividends. The betterment of society will come out of it anyway so better grab those profits while available, But getting back to your spiral, if you look back through the last 70 years or so, although you see superficial changes, the overall running of society hasn’t really changed much. If you listen to people complaining over a few beers in the pub about taxes and unemployment and the kids of today having no respect and terrible fashion and horrible music and rigged voting, exactly the same conversations were happening back in the 50s, 60s & 70s etc, with people making exactly the same comments. Things seem to change but in reality everything stays the same. The big eye opener for me was after reading lots of Miles’ papers about The Families, I found out that the English Queen Elizabeth the first had a network of spies, an intelligence network to prevent the overthrow of the monarchy and government. Thats 400 years ago that our monarchy had a mini-CIA going on in the shadows. You see….nothing really changes…
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Josh said:
There is something to what you’re saying. I think anybody who lived through the 30’s and 40’s saw the world appear to spin completely out of control in an incredibly frightening fashion. But still I don’t think things have stayed the same, even if many of the same issues have been around for a long time. People have also been complaining for a long time that things are getting worse. That doesn’t mean things are staying the same. That means things are getting continually worse. In the U.S., median wages have stagnated since the 1970s, controlling for inflation. The attempt to dumb people down seems to be working, as IQ’s have been dropping since the mid-1970s. Or at least they have in Norway:
https://www.sciencealert.com/iq-scores-falling-in-worrying-reversal-20th-century-intelligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence
I think the social engineers have an enormous amount of power to shape people’s consciousness, but I also think it takes generations to bring about. For example, it would not be easy to put the gender-fluidity geni back in the bottle now that an entire generation has had that shoved down their throats. At least in the West. There are so many people now who define themselves in terms of some “non-binary” gender category and so many more people who hold gender fluidity sacrosanct. It would be hard to convince them otherwise, and it would take the concerted effort of the mighty wurlitzer to reverse that, and they would only be able to do so effectively with future generations.
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Russell Taylor said:
But don’t you see the gender fluid push as being just another arm of operation chaos Josh? There were men in womens sports, masquerading as females a very long time ago maybe 1920’s, so it’s nothing new, just a new level of societal thrust. We see taxes constantly in the news, especially around voting time. Always talking about taxing the rich more and the working class less but the overall taxation level doesn’t alter. They give with one hand and take back with the other. In England, we used to be taxed around 30% in our wage packet each week plus around 5% national insurance to cover health care and pension. Add to this tax on your savings, stamp duty, insurance tax, fuel duty, alcohol taxes, vehicle excise duty, and you ended up paying roughly 50% of your income in taxes. Successive governments reduced this over a couple of decades but then introduced VAT. So low wage earners ended up earning much more before tax was deducted and that tax was at a very low rate but almost every item they bought had VAT added. 30 years on and a quick calculation shows that when all taxes are added we still pay around 50% of our income in taxes. Voting is just a smoke screen to make the working man feel he has a say in how the country is run. The families will always put one of their own in a position of power, and will choose a character which befits the area of society they wish to nurture. Surrounding the 9-11 and Iraq wars they needed to weave the spell of ineptitude and incompetence to deflect any criticism from any analysis of the periods events hence the bumbling Bush Jr.. This is an easy get-out-of-jail-free card to play. Oops! Sorry…weren’t we a bunch of eejuts? Then everything is forgotten. Like fake tears after being caught with one hand in the cookie jar, people are so easy to appease when presented with the simplest option.
In the 70s with an income of £60 per week ($130 back then), a 3 bed semi would cost £18 a week to rent. With water tax this was a third of you income. Today, with an income of around £330 ($465), doing a similar job, and a rent for a similar property asking £85 a week plus local council tax, plus water, you are still paying around a third of your weekly income. A weekly food shop for a family of three used to be around £15 ($38), so not much less than your rent. Today that same food shop costs about £75 ($110) so not much less than your rent. I don’t see the changes you see I’m afraid. The changes I do see are with tech’ such as a 1970s family car compared to….well, there is no fair comparison really is there? A modern car has brakes that work (really well), air-conditioning, much more powerful engines which in most cases are far more efficient. Lighter, stronger with lots of safety features. More comfortable seating, and draught free, leak free windows. Much better tyres the list is endless, so motoring has leapt forward immensely. The costs on the other hand haven’t really changed. A 20 year old can only afford to run a car if they still live with their parents, freeing up income. Back in the 70s the same hurdle existed. If you ran your own home on a single income a car was too expensive. Swings and roundabouts ideology continues with fuel costs, where in the US you have much cheaper fuel (stupidly cheap back in the 70s), but you also have bigger engines and tend to drive greater distances. Rents and fuel costs and food prices will always be hiked to a level where people on the lowest incomes start to thieve and steal. At that point they drop the costs just to lower the crime rate. When unleaded fuel in the UK hit an average £1.36 per litre ($12 a gallon) around 2012-2014, people on very low incomes started stealing fuel in overnight raids on whole streets. Soon after this the prices came down very rapidly….I wonder why? Today we are paying up to 128 pennies per litre but 80 pennies of that is tax, which is not fixed but goes up with the price of crude. And wars used to be filthy terrifying things which consumed many western nations and affected everyone but for the past 70 years most wars have been much smaller and overseas where you only witness events in a newspaper or on TV. Another improvement is clothing. No longer itchy or smelly or eaten by moths. The latest nylon shirts are odour free, easily washed, dry in minutes and last forever. The same with nylon trousers. Like I said, tech-wise many things in life have improved but the grip on public opinion, the direction of societal change, taxation, prices etc are pretty much the same. In the 70s Cohen and a few others wrote most hit songs. Today is no different with most hit songs being written by two songwriters. This way THEY can keep control of the lyrical content and help shape society the way THEY want it to be. So that hasn’t changed either. I find it difficult to believe that overall life is now worse than at any time in the last 1,000 years. If it is true that we are entering into the next cyclic Little Ice Age, then the quality of life we now experience is about to slip back a few notches. More able to cope with many of the coming problems facing us but with a vastly greater population to feed. So in another 20 years things could get really, really bad! Sorry! I did go on a bit there…..
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Josh said:
I certainly don’t mean to idealize life ‘back in the day.’ As for people’s economic situation, I was referring to the U.S. only as I am not familiar with trends in other countries.
I see gender fluidity not so much as another arm but rather as another stage in operation chaos (or operation rolling stone). Let’s say for the sake of argument that operation chaos/rolling stone has been going on for 100 years. Operation chaos requires ever-increasing levels of chaos, since if the level of chaos remained the same people would get used to it. So you’ve got to continually ramp things up. So even though it’s the same operation, it isn’t the same. It’s more intense.
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Patrick said:
Russell, you wrote “wars used to be filthy terrifying things which consumed many western nations and affected everyone but for the past 70 years most wars have been much smaller and overseas where you only witness events in a newspaper or on TV.”
Can you really think such a thing? I’m sure that if a war were to be visited on your neck of the woods you would find yourself filthy and terrified. Even today. I don’t see how anyone can view the ongoing made for TV destruction and devastation of many of the poorest among us as any kind of improvement.
Shaking my head, man.
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Jared Magneson said:
I think that many things change and many things stay the same. The difference, the factor that doesn’t change so much, is population growth. I know other people disagree but it seems quite Ishmaelian to me – the global population is doubling roughly every 35 years. So while things haven’t changed for the most part in a financial way according to your breakdown, Russel Taylor, the overall profit HAS changed, and vastly.
In 1983, the population here in the States was allegedly ~237 million. Now, it’s reported as about ~327, so we don’t see a doubling here but an increase of 72%. That’s a huge margin gain for the existing, tried-and-true profits on the populace in general.
And of course that’s assuming any census numbers are accurate, which of course I don’t believe they are. I think it’s much higher than that. I’ve watched the local population explode since 1984 here and it’s not pretty. It’s Totalitarian Agriculture in action – humanity as a locust swarm, possibly to overtake the stars themselves someday with our terrible breeding habits and disregard for natural order. At this rate, by the year 3,000 we could have overpopulated every single planet in the entire universe, if we ever achieve superluminal flight.
Whether agreed or not on the population topic, the general principle here in the states and in every other modern nation I’ve seen is the same: paint the world in concrete. There’s nothing we’ve done more harmful to the land than this. Every road we’ve made, every city block we’ve demolished and built upon, is an offense to the natural order of the Earth. I don’t say this as a hippy but as someone thoroughly disgusted with the behaviors of my own kind. Every time we see concrete sidewalks, drives, roads, and parking lots we’re seeing the absolute destruction of the Earth’s flora and fauna.
So to me, every effort of science to heal things must include the population explosion and the concrete shell we’re building as critical factors. They are the most important factors. Do we really want thousands of human-filled planets coated in concrete, like simulacra of Trantor, throughout the entirety of space we can reach? Because that’s what’s happening, to me. All in the name of profit, at the behest of the banksters.
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Russell Taylor said:
I don’t believe the total population figures either Jared but what I was referring to was the wider populations of China, India, northern South America and many African countries. While the UK and many European countries remain fairly stable, and the US rises steadily relatively speaking, those other huge countries have almost runaway numbers. Worldwide crop failures for more than 2 years in a row will starve hundreds of millions of people in those heavily populated countries. The numbers were scary when the populations were far smaller, even in Europe. Starting with starvation and freezing to death, malnutrition followed, along with all the associated diseases. Vaccination won’t help, because malnutrition weakens the immune system which negates the effectiveness of the vaccinations. We need to start irrigating the desert regions with the vast water supplies that have been found to exist underground so when crops fail farther north, production can be shifted farther south. Its something we haven’t had to cope with for for almost 170 years. It’s also something I wasn’t told about in school history lessons. Its not doom mongering. Its happened many times and very recently, and it will happen again. Are we prepared? I think some factions are. Underground storage facilities and GM crops are possible counter measures but only for the ones who have the ability to pay of course.
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Maria K said:
Those numbers from Norway can most likely be generalized to other populations, but being a Norwegian I can safely assume I am more stupid than I could have been..,great.
That IQ drops within families I think is one of the most interesting points from the article and one which I wasn’t aware of. That means environmental factors play a large role. Personally I believe that nutrition is one of the important factors. I attended a lecture about the differences in nervous system development between infants fed formula and those fed mother’s milk, no difference in growth rate, but the nerve connections were not as developed in infants fed formula as those fed mother’s milk. Norway has one of the most generous maternity leaves out there and so one wouldn’t automatically assume lack of mother’s milk to be the most obvious cause, but compared to previous generations the suckling period has decreased as mothers rush back to their jobs to keep tax returns up. Then there is iodine, the mineral that is key to IQ. Iodine has always been a problem in many places and the use of salt with iodine has recently gone down in Norway. People can of course eat fish to get iodine, but it is also in decline. We actually rely on iodine from dairy products.Then there is the general paranoia about fat and the advice from Norwegian public health authorities to give children low fat milk, which I think would negatively affect the nervous system. Add this to all the toxins floating around in the food supply and it isn’t surprising the the nervous system is affected.
I am not sure whether they are dumbing people down on purpose or if it is just a great many bad and ill-informed decisions and policies, but I am leaning towards stupidity and greed. So many decisions are made based on economic concerns, and in consequence the natural order has been disturbed to such an extent that the human organism is taking a large hit. A lot of researchers, who should be aggressive watchdogs, are not taking an interest or just don’t realize that something is amiss. No alarm bells go off. It is going to take some generations before the problems get bad enough for researchers to address the problems. Sorry to ramble on about this, but I work in health research so this is the sort of stuff that I find interesting.
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Josh said:
Maria, you didn’t ramble at all. You wrote a lot but it was cogent and sensible. Thanks for chiming in. It’s nice to see that there are people who are reading along who don’t necessarily comment. I agree that the results likely extend beyond Norway. I hadn’t thought of biological explanations, but you’re probably right. And the reasons you suggest may very well be part of it.
The question of whether they are dumbing people down on purpose or whether it is the result of a great many bad and ill-informed decisions is a good one. I don’t think it has to be either/or. It can be both and probably is. Nobody could convince me that they aren’t trying to dumb us down. Of course I don’t have “proof.” But on the other hand, I have many, many examples of other situations where they do things on purpose but tell us it’s unintentional. You might say, “well, how could they know that such-and-such would lower IQ?” My response is that there is an enormous amount of research that is held in secret. We now know that the tobacco companies knew for decades that cigarettes were harmful and that “big sugar” knew about the negative impact of sugar on health. All of that was hidden from us and it is no longer a conspiracy ‘theory’ that it was hidden and we were lied to. And those are only two of the things that they have admitted to. Who knows what else they know about but have hidden. The only limit is the dark, bottomless abysses that have replaced their souls.
But I don’t think the dumbing down is only or even chiefly done via biological or chemical means. It is social, cultural and also technological. And it isn’t necessarily about IQ. It also has to do with the breadth of our knowledge, with out attention spans, with anti-intellectualism as part of the culture (in the US at least).
Part of it is a result of the way that we allow technology to do so much thinking for us. To take a fairly banal example, I used to have lots of phone numbers memorized. Now I no longer do, because I don’t have to. It’s all stored in my phone. But I don’t think it would be easy for me to remember phone numbers anymore, whereas it used to be a lot easier when I was well practiced. But it’s much more than that.
School curriculum has been warped by the need to teach to the standardized tests. Of course the goal of schools has always been to create obedient citizens and workers who had enough intelligence to keep the gears of commerce humming along without causing too much trouble.
Or think of something like twitter. Political discourse in the US has been reduced to statements with 280 or fewer characters. How can that not be a form of dumbing us down? People have ever shorter attention spans these days. And it’s not just kids who grew up with smart phones and social media. It’s also adults who grow addicted to it. And that has been another recent limited hangout disclosure, the way these companies use or hack our brains’ natural dopamine pathways to create addiction. Well, they’re hacking brains with this technology to do more than get us hooked on candy crush. And one of the foreseeable consequences of it is to dumb us down.
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Maria K said:
I really agree that there is something fundamentally anti-intellectual with the fast-food way in which information is being disseminated, absorbed and processed. Personally I have made a conscious effort to go back to reading newspapers made of real paper (the ones that are still semi-digestible) and physical books as I felt I was losing touch with the physical world reading so much electronic information. It takes time and patience to get oneself off the social-media dopamine addiction as one will get withdrawal symptoms, but it is entirely possible. Then again, I didn’t grow up with social media, and I fear what happens to developing brains who instead of receiving impressions from the natural world, wire their nervous system to this virtual world during critical periods of development. For sure, those selling us modern media technologies profit from our dopamine mediated addictions, but I am not convinced it is done for other reasons than profit.
Though, regarding a potential intentional dumbing down; if you take mathematics education, I strongly suspect that they are deliberately sabotaging it making it unnecessarily difficult in order to deter students from pursuing it. At least, this is happening in Norway where they are teaching students to do additions horizontally instead of vertically in a very cumbersome and painful way. I also noticed a weird mathematics education trial where they set 8-10 year old pupils questions that were just way way too hard for them and had them come up their own answers based on whatever principles they felt like as the point was merely to think about maths and numbers. This, in my view, points to a definite dumbing down project.
I don’t know if I agree that people are being taught to be obedient, I used to think so, but I also think it is part of the human psyche to want to fit in, to get along with people and to make friends.This instinct probably comes from trying to keep in with people who could protect and feed you and forms the basis of peer pressure. Teaching people to think independently and not be obedient is an art few seem to master, but there are always some naturally independently minded people who refuse to conform.
As a budding epidemiologist, I know very well how the story goes when industry encounters troublesome research results that have the potential of affecting profit margins negatively. In most of these cases though, holding back research has in my opinion been motivated by profit and preventing lawsuits. However, I can never tell if some shady characters do not sit behind closed doors with their port and cigars systematically planning all the ways they could create an obedient population with just the right IQ to be content doing mundane, but necessary tasks without questioning the established order in real brave new world style. Presumably, their schemes would also negatively affect their own offspring and the possibility of continuing their system of exploitation.
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Josh said:
Well, it’s an open question how much of it is intentional social engineering and how much is just collateral consequences of the profit motive. I certainly don’t view it as either/or. Most everything they do serves multiple purposes and one of those is almost always making money. I don’t really give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. To paraphrase Joseph Heller (Hiller?), just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they’re aren’t out to get me.
But there is a bit of a tension here, because on the one hand we have seen here first hand how inept and stupid they are, but on the other hand we give them a lot of credit for being very capable social engineers and canny Machiavellians (we don’t think it’s a good thing; but we acknowledge their success). So which is it? Can it be both? Maybe. Perhaps they have a shallow pool of very smart people who are busy doing the heavy lifting, while they send the keystone cops after us?
In any case, I don’t think most of them go through the same education system as the rest of us, so whatever dumbing down they’re effecting on us won’t necessarily blowback on their progeny. Maybe the second and third-tier spooks who are less affluent, but that suits the guys in the top tier just fine.
As for cigar chompers in a smoke-filled room, you might be interested in the work of John Taylor Gatto. I haven’t read much but learned from what I did. Judging by his bio and the content of what he writes, I would say he’s most likely a limited hangout (see his children’s book, The Adventures of Snider, the CIA Spider), but still offers some good information.
Maria, may I ask how you came to learn of Miles’ work and/or this website? It wouldn’t by any chance be through our resident bard (hah I wish), Arild Hammero?
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Alan Ackley said:
Re: Josh: “Perhaps they have a shallow pool of very smart people who are busy doing the heavy lifting, while they send the keystone cops after us? ”
I think at the top “they” are aliens or fallen angels, not of the Earth at all, otherwise why destroy the whole world? It looks to me like fracking is destroying the water tables, while poisons are killing the soil and the oceans. The stored up ponds of untreated nuclear waste appear to be a bomb waiting to happen. The destructiveness is overboard. The agenda does not appear to me to be human. The human dupes who do their work are definitely the keystone cops.
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Maria K said:
I have seen this explanation too, but in my personal opinion it is misdirection. They want us thinking that we cannot do something because we are facing opposition that just can’t be defeated, when in reality it isn’t that hard. I have paid close attention to some of the people peddling this theory that aliens are in charge and found it curious that 1) you can find some of their books at the largest bookstores in the center of London, 2) retired British intelligence agents claim simultaneously that evil aliens are governing us and that good aliens have repeatedly and in secret saved humans from thermonuclear war, with the latter being a claim which cannot be true if MM is right and 3) the new age movement is promoting the same stuff while making poorly disguised and obvious jokes about how they are lying to their audience. That doesn’t mean I don’t believe in the possibility of extra-terrestrial life, just that it isn’t likely to be that which is causing most of our day-to-day problems.
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Alan Ackley said:
If it is the local humans causing all the problems then the leaders must think they have an escape plan. Either a secret space program or extensive underground bunkers. Myths and legends indicate something called “fallen angels” and I see no reason to doubt the stories. In any case the destruction planned indicates that the planners do not plan to be here when the final events come down.
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Josh said:
Or maybe things aren’t quite as bad as we’re led to believe? In that case, they don’t need an escape plan. By the way I think bunkers and secret space programs are both more plausible than fallen angels or aliens behind the curtain.
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Josh said:
In relation to point 2, there are also the reports from military officers about UFO’s hovering near nuclear weapon sites and temporarily disabling the launch capabilities, as covered in the book by Robert Hastings, UFOs and Nukes. But something I’ve never seen answered is why these military officers aren’t court-martialed for revealing classified information that is vital to national security. They are basically coming out and saying that UFOs can disarm nuclear weapons. I guess we’re supposed to believe that they aren’t being prosecuted because they’re “retired,” but that’s not how it works. They would be bound to secrecy after they retire, if they were really spilling the beans. But they’re not. They’re just pushing the UFO misdirection project, making us think it’s aliens driving these things when it’s not. And it’s also a two-fer since they also sell the nuclear weapons hoax as real at the same time.
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Maria K said:
I agree, it isn’t necessarily either/or, but as you say, probably a little bit of both in varying quantities.
It is interesting to see this “limited hangout” talking about the problems of the school system. As we have a lot of public systems in Norway, I have become very used to see the various types of attacks that are perpetrated against them, which in reality seek to get rid of public ownership and pass taxpayer money on to the private sector. The last one I noticed was about public kinder gardens joining the gay parade with children as young as 2-3 years to teach them about diversity. The bashing of public kinder gardens commenced without delay at the very same time as a proposal by the far left was being introduced to prevent private profit from being made from kinder gardens.The yearly capital return from kinder gardens (28%) is much higher than yearly returns from average stock investments (8%). In general, the tactic is to make a public service/system so bad and repulsive to people that they want it gone.
I think these people who want to run our lives view themselves as very clever and able, while at the same time they may fail to see things that in the long run can lead to their own demise. In my view, there is a tipping point where arrogance and greed leads to stupidity and self-destruction. I think we have seen some of that lately, especially with 9/11, which for many was just too big to miss. I also found the recent attacks of MM by PoM so clownish at times that I could hardly believe them to be serious. If anything, these people should know the dynamics of attacking someone while giving people a visible common enemy. They may have thought someone would fall for it, but it is hard to imagine that they really thought it would be very effective. It seems to me they’re using the same tricks over and over without adapting their strategy to their targets.
I think the reason I found MM’s site to start with was because I was searching for information on the involvement of CIA in the arts. I quickly realized his site was a goldmine of interesting information while at the same time also pleasantly and chemically free from annoying ads.
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Russell Taylor said:
Low fat milk was a marketing mans wet dream. They sold us milk. They sold us cheese, made from milk. The by-product was fed to livestock. Then some bright spark thought, you know what, if we scare everyone by telling them that the fat in milk is causing heart disease and killing everyone, we can take most of the fat out of the milk thereby making it healthier. Milk sales will go up. The fat we take from the milk can then be made into cheese. This way, the consumer pays twice for the same product. They pay an even higher price for the fat free milk, due to extra production costs taking out the fat. Then they buy cheese which has been made from the same milk. Cheese production costs fall because the raw material is now almost free. Smart move. Same dirty marketing ploy pumping water into meat & fish. That’s why your bacon sizzles and why your rashers, fish, pork chops etc, shrink when you cook them. The industry had enough bare faced cheek to admit they did this, using some lame excuse that it helped extend the shelf life. In reality, your 10 oz steak was only an 8 oz steak after cooking. But you still paid for 10 oz.
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Josh said:
Paging “Alfred Spinelli”: You posted a cogent comment that was caught by my filter, though as a collateral consequence of an innocuous word as it turns out. I was about to approve that comment when I noticed in the spam folder an identical comment posted using a different name (“Roger Simpson”) with a different IP address. So I have to assume it contains some kind of misdirection or disinformation about a possible DHS/CIA split that you were trying to insinuate into the comment thread, so I’ve sent it to trash. If you’d like to explain yourself, e-mail me directly.
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Alan Ackley said:
Gender fluidity is not just an intelligence operation (it is that also) it is a biological reality. After WWII pesticides were introduced that function as estrogen mimics and they are pervading the food supply and now the entire water supply. The same chemicals are also implicated in the obesity epidemic and many other health problems that can be traced back to changes in the gut biome .
See this book from 1997 Theo Colborn & Dianne Dumanoski: Our Stolen Future, which documents the effect on wildlife (alligators & amphibians) of the spread of estrogen mimicking pollutants into swamp water.
Gender fluidity and changes in human sexuality are not just the products of propaganda and social engineering. There are actual biological changes going on. It is still debatable whether these are being done deliberately or are the accidental outcome of stupid and unconsidered industrial pollutants.
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Josh said:
Hi Alan, yes I completely agree. Endocrine disruptors are a big problem. Unfortunately Alex Jones has completely delegitimized discussion and concern over this very legitimate issue. if you were to raise the issue in a mainstream forum, you would likely be drowned out with something like the following: “Don’t tell me you listen to that crazy conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. The chemicals aren’t turning the frogs gay!” See here.
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Russell Taylor said:
Endocrine disruptors are used in transgender reasignment clinics to prevent children going through puberty. It has been said that these same chemical disruptors are in the food chain and are affecting the normal biological processes of the foetus in the womb >> https://bit.ly/2K16my6 << Anyone who speaks out about the future implications of legitimising the transgendering of pre-pubescent children is immediately pounced upon and has their bails knocked off by far left ideological wicket keepers. Hence the blackwashing of the whole subject on YouTube. Sylvester Stallone is a girl and Felicity Kendall is a man, kind of insane remarks. But whenever you see this mass, deliberate blackwashing, you know there's a dark and shadowy something going on. The accidental OR deliberate poisoning using disruptors will only cause a slight ripple in the pond because, as Josh says, the whole subject has been delegitimised. This type of social disruption has occurred before throughout history, just before the collapse of all the major civilisations. A complete disregard for normal rules and a free for all attitude. Liberalism on steroids!
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Alan Ackley said:
Things are getting worse. Things are getting better.
The insect population of the planet is dropping precipitously. The oceans are being over fished almost to extinction at this point. Birds are starting to starve from needing to hunt too far for their food. Soil damage is due to become a gigantic problem. These are not advances.
Homelessness appeared in the USA during the Reagan administration (1980’s). Prior to that it was mostly unknown. At the same time college went from being paid for as you went along to requiring loans. College grants turned into college loans.
Saved money used to earn some interest, now it does not.
The enclosure and exploitation of the common domain lands started hundreds of years ago, and has never ceased. Rent extraction has only increased. There are more metered parking places, more toll roads: Fees to pitch a tent and camp, or to park your camper vehicle, and vast regions where camping has been made illegal. Every plot of land has been fenced in and controlled or regulated. As land enclosure reaches completion rents and fees go up. There is nowhere outside of the enclosed system so everyone can be contained within the rent extraction system.
Child abuse has gone on for thousands of years, and now humanity is actually starting to deal with it. This is a huge advance.
People are awakening from the mass hypnosis. The systems that rule through deception and lies are collapsing. Hundreds or thousands of years of deceptive rulership may be coming to an end. It is about time.
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Alan Ackley said:
Below, Cancelled questioned my statement that “systems that rule through deception and lies are collapsing.” Just to elaborate and clarify: I am referring here to the systems that support the mass hypnosis. Perhaps the pain is getting to be enough that people are awakening. Also the work of Miles Mathis and other “awakeners” is taking it’s toll on the ability to convince people of the reality behind what actually are fake events. Now in the days right after each event the illusions are being disassembled on the internet. This is a positive development and in the “Things are getting better” category.
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Russell Taylor said:
Alan, Josh, Jared…… Insects, birds, fish, general local environment, yep I have to agree, numbers are way down and the countryside is suffering but it doesn’t alter the fact that life is better for most people in most western nations . Bad for insects and birds yes but not us. It’s all compromises. There are still ghetto’s in many countries but those are the result of a government that doesn’t give a sheet about it’s poor folk! Lets all go back 50 years and walk to work, and sow the fields by hand, choke on pea-soup fog caused by coal fires and steam locomotives. Lets feel cold 90% of the time with no double glazing or central heating or thermally efficient clothing. Modern deodorants work, in the 70s you ended up smelling of sweat plus perfume yeuk!. Instead of walking 2 miles to find your friend isn’t at home just text them wherever you may be; save a wasted journey. Fast forward 50 years and we have spectacle frames which bend without damage, soft contact lenses and laser eye surgery. Wheelchair access on trains, buses, taxis, hotels, schools, hospitals. Faster, cleaner, more comfortable trains. Health & Safety at work. Effective birth control. Powerful medicines and surgery’s which save countless lives. Only 75 years ago my mum would have dropped dead due to kidney failure. Today she has dialysis 3 times a week and has been treated to an extended life for about 3 years now. Blockbuster movies with CGI. I love watching old movies nostalgia-wise but compared to today’s films they were pretty awful. Acting, direction and camera work were dire. Unpleasant and mostly unnecessary music, terrible fight scenes and people refusing to die after being shot 8 times with a Colt 45. Comedy used to be hilarious but today that’s been ruined by politcal correctness. No black & white tv with a blurry 10 inch screen and terrible sound. Today we have 60 inch plasma/LED high definition screens to watch our movies with 7 or more channel Dolby surround sound. If all this is not better then I must be missing something important. And whatever we do to the planet, it isn’t going to matter much because when the next ice age starts, which is one of the few absolute guarantees in this world, everything will go back to a default setting. Glaciation will crush, then scrape off all the existing top soil, trees, cities, cemetary’s, to the point where most of the land will be returned to a bedrock status and a lot of slushy silt. All traces of humans will be washed out to sea. A mass extinction event. What will happen to all the birds and insects and freshwater fishes and cattle and hedgehogs and rare wildflowers when the ice is 2 miles thick? Plenty of species will survive including humans by migrating south but widespread catastrophic crop failures will starve most humans world-wide, no matter where they try to live. Latest estimates put the post ice age population at around 10,000, mostly in Africa. As far as the environment is concerned, an ice age does vastly greater harm than we ever could. They also occur on a regular basis and last for extended periods (100,000 years?) Survival is perhaps too tame a word. If you go back 300 years or more life was short, disease ridden, with little regard for life or property, with swords and guillotines, the smell of burning witches, the stench of death from plague and pestilence and starvation, with hardly any sanitation. Yes, life today is fantasic! The big change around the corner though is ever increasing automation, which will get rid of the need for us. Yet with all these wonderful aids to a better life, we still have THEM using the modern fiat currency model to control every aspect of our lives. No £20 bill? No credit card? Then you have no transport, no roof over your head, no food etc. You are tied to the dollar bill and they will squeeze each and every resource price until you squeal. And depending to what class of society you belong, that feeling of the tax man having a hand permanently rifling through your wallet for loose change has been in the subconscious for over two hundred years. That’s the important bit that never changes. So we have a better, cleaner, healthier life but at a price, which is either paid, or you go without. So financially – what’s new?
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Jared Magneson said:
“And whatever we do to the planet, it isn’t going to matter much because when the next ice age starts, which is one of the few absolute guarantees in this world, everything will go back to a default setting. Glaciation will crush, then scrape off all the existing top soil, trees, cities, cemetary’s, to the point where most of the land will be returned to a bedrock status and a lot of slushy silt. All traces of humans will be washed out to sea. A mass extinction event.”
That’s a pretty blatant assumption, and I would take issue with it as matters of science, values, and morality. The ice ages don’t cover the entire planet by any means, and they don’t revert it to a “default setting” either. They sculpt the land and change things up a lot, sure, but it doesn’t happen overnight by a long, long, longshot.
So “whatever we do to the planet” cannot be discounted on the hope that the next big ice age, centuries or millennia away possibly, can erase our species’ mistakes. Our culture is one of utter locusthood – the Earth is ours to rape, and so we rape it. This isn’t humanity’s fault, it’s the fault of our society and culture – to incessantly breed, kill everything we can, and cover the Earth in concrete. Cap off all life below rubber and stone and metal. That’s what we do, and that’s what this culture will do to future worlds as well if that ever comes to pass.
“What will happen to all the birds and insects and freshwater fishes and cattle and hedgehogs and rare wildflowers when the ice is 2 miles thick? Plenty of species will survive including humans by migrating south but widespread catastrophic crop failures will starve most humans world-wide, no matter where they try to live.”
You answer your own question – these species will simply adapt, as they always have. Migrate, ebb and flow, die and live. But guess what? They cannot adapt at all if we kill them off. And that’s what is happening now, and has been for 9,000 years. Totalitarian Agriculture has been built on the foundation of “All is MINE, all is HUMAN’S to use, to destroy, to enjoy, to kill, to smash, to build upon, to cover in stone for my human aesthetic pleasure.” So I say let the humans perish during such an age, if those humans still live as we do.
“As far as the environment is concerned, an ice age does vastly greater harm than we ever could. They also occur on a regular basis and last for extended periods (100,000 years?) Survival is perhaps too tame a word.”
We’ve already falsified that claim, but I must hit it again. Ice ages do not happen instantly, or even in a year. And the flora and fauna are far more prepared to deal with them than we are – so long as we don’t intervene and kill them before they CAN adapt. Which is what we’ve been doing. It’s horrible and deplorable and I’m no hippy but it makes me hate humanity, deeply. Scorn and deride. But also search for a better way, because (again) it’s not us as animals that’s at fault, it’s our culture that tells us it’s okay to burn and rape the land at will that’s at fault. Our common Story, going back to the Fertile Crescent.
We are doing more harm than any ice age could, if you ask the plants and animals.
All else you’ve referred to here is irrelevant in that light. Our lives being “easier” has only hastened the spread and trauma of our culture, made it ever easier for us to breed in great numbers and destroy ever more of the land. All our advances are shit in that light, since we don’t use them for any greater good (yet). All of science is useless unless we can teach ourselves how to live again, without killing everything around us.
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Patrick said:
Re: the decline of the insect population. I wonder if the reported collapsing of the bee population is not just a part of an overall business model. No bees? No problem. Walmart to the rescue with a patent filing for robot bees that could potentially pollinate crops. And so it goes…
http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-robot-bees-farming-patent-2018-3
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Russell Taylor said:
A very late frost or sudden very cold spell and bee populations are devastated. We are told that the lack of bees means the blossom doesn’t get pollinated and so the fruit crops fail. But the frost is far more likely to kill the flowers, which the bees need for food, so the bees are actually killed indirectly by the frost. Its not only bees that pollinate flowers, and what happens when bee populations are wiped out by late frosts and heavy prolonged rainfall? Some early flowers are missed but the vast majority of flowers/crops still get pollinated by the thousands of species of other insects. Robot bees are of no use when frost or gales or hail kills off the flowers. There are plenty of insects in deciduous woodland and pasture. You might not see any where there are food crops being grown. Pesticides kill the insects, young birds starve to death because even seed eaters feed their young on insects for their high protein content. So we see a decline in both. Neonicotinoids have been blamed for bee numbers declining but the bees are still thriving on open moorland away from the sprayed land. So if that is true, then it is only a localised problem. Bees have been around for over 70 million years so I don’t see them disappearing completely as the media would have you believe. Now there could be some truth in what you say Patrick. If Walmart sell plenty of polytunnels, the tunnels will protect the flowers from frost damage, the bees get fed, the flowers get pollinated and everyone is happy. Walmart to the rescue indeed!
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Jared Magneson said:
While they may have some fancy statistics on bees they’re working with, as we’ve seen in every other field of science almost all their work has been compromised. How do they track bees? How could they possibly track them? I have had no shortage of bees for the last decade here in my garden, but that is also to say I have not quantified them – because it’s not really possible to do. I mean, maybe with four to eight 8K-resolution cameras in multiple spectra running 24/7 all year and a constant computer algorithm to try to quantify them would that be possible, and that would just be for my 25′ x 25′ patch of garden. I don’t see how they could possibly track even just a few species of bee – and there are easily a dozen different kinds I see here in Washington State alone. Tiny ones, big fuzzy ones, orange ones, yellow ones… Dragon ones. And a host of wasp varieties that prey on them.
So I’m inclined to believe that it’s more fearism, although I do respect and promote a healthy bee culture here. Of course I don’t want them to die. But are they dying OFF? Every tomato grown, every flower seed I harvest, and every pepper says otherwise. Again, limited data so my certainty is also limited.
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Russell Taylor said:
Observing local bee populations Jared. Lots of hives placed on heather moorland. I think it was the spring of 2017 that was another long, cold, late one but there was a warm week where the insects appeared and everything flourished, then suddenly back to cold. The bees vanished and didn’t return. The hives were taken away some months later. The bees are back this year but numbers are way down compared to just a few years ago where that same moorland saw thousands of bees. Talking to a local bee keeper, she said that the bees would be late appearing to to the late onset of spring, and very hungry, and the cold would simply kill them in their energy starved, weakened state.
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spookbuster said:
Bilderberg: The organizers are pretty sharp.
Read “Post-Truth”-World as “To post the truth”-world.
Nice to read that you rank so high up in the hierarchy of their concerns that they discuss you at such a top meeting.
Not entirely a surprise, though.
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cherryes magdalina kaur kaiser said:
cherryes magdalina kaur kaiser
trans surgery 2011nov21 10:30-12:00 montreal
harold richard kaiser
b.1955may21 10:45pm vulcan alberta canada
miles are my contributions to your party “still awaiting moderation”???
rsvp email
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Josh said:
Cherryes, according to this article you are a real person. However, your comments have been held in moderation permanently. It is not because they are critical of Miles (they aren’t at all). It is because they are in my view rambling, incoherent and frankly bizarre. Two examples of many:
“ps the indigineous breast/pussy brains do NOT viberate (minimum daily allowence) IMPLODED Sexuality”
and
“this one’s for you and miles, and anyOne who cannot fathom and respect that i let go of my born again christian fundamentalism by learning to listen to my Organic Oneness OrgOne vibrations of uncondition=elle love to a depth of 13 hermonic=elle fract=ells”
If I’m being completely honest, I would guess you suffer from mild schizophrenia, as your writings resemble those of a schizophrenic. I’m sorry if that sounds mean. I have all the sympathy in the world for people with mental health issues, so I don’t mean to mock or attack you. Just calling it like I see it. I probably shouldn’t be trying to diagnose you based on the little evidence I have, but it just seems so clear. Regardless, I don’t see the value in allowing bizarre and nonsensical comments to be published here. If you can say something that makes sense to me and doesn’t ramble, I will approve it.
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spookbuster said:
Miles in Taos: just checked the white pages and nicely found you at 123 Carabajal Rd apt A, Taos NM, along with three other fellows, Randy Reynolds, Bonnie Mcnairn and Xavier Brown, plus one vacant place.
My issue is: Mark Tokarski told us that he attended one of your conferences, 7 participants in total (snow white and the seven dwarfs) and he says:
“I achieved my purpose, to find out if Mathis is a real human and not a computer bot or a committee. He lives alone in a nice house, owns cats, has no car or cell phone. And he is a real human being.” (from “response to MM, PoM)
How does the “nice house” fit with the apt A in a “multi-family building”?
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Jared Magneson said:
Nice to meet you finally, Mr. Buster. Your parents were brilliant naming you thusly. It makes it easy for us to “stalk” you the way you’re stalking Miles, so as to find out who you are and if you’re a real person yourself.
Spoiler Alert: you’re not.
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spookbuster said:
Nobody asked you on that issue (only Miles is competent to answer) and don’t try diverting the attention.
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Jared Magneson said:
Nice comeback nearly, but nobody asked you either. Sure, you can Google up anyone’s address and learn whatever, but your post was a bit too location-rapey or stalkery for my tastes. So I called you on it. I didn’t try to divert the attention, I did divert it – to analyzing you as a person, the same way you’re trying to analyze these other people.
Get mad all you want, you’re the one who’s too afraid to use your own name here.
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Alan Ackley said:
Hey spookbuster. If you were to look at that address using Google Maps, and the satellite view from above you would see that it is not a boxy four-plex, but a property with several buildings. Calling a building that looks like a house “Apt A” is not out of line. Looks to me like you are just trying to cause an issue where none exists. I hope Josh deletes your existence here. You are a useless annoyance.
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Mathis der Maler said:
Bonnie is my ex and she used to live here, what, 3 years ago. She no longer does, so the whitepages listing is long out of date. Never heard of Randy Reynolds or Xavier Brown. Possibly they rented here before we got here, though that would be more than 7 years ago. There is a 123A and a 123B, but they are separate houses, not a multi-family building. The address is 123A, not 123 Apt. A. They are two similar adobe houses, separated by a fence, not apartments or condos.
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spookbuster said:
Thanks! That’s just what I wanted to know.
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cancelled said:
Somebody opined “Today we have miracles of technological advancement ….the betterment of society will come out of them”. I wonder what those advances might be? An example or two would have been helpful.
I could make a case for technology having regressed humanity. You see nine-month old babies glued to iPads instead of playing which of course isn’t really playing when you’re a baby, it’s skill development and learning. It’s exploration of the natural (not cyber, virtual) world. It’s learning how to be a social being.
Who wants to wear nylon? Nylon is plastic. Plastic is an endocrine disrupters; it messes up your hormones. It has a negative effect on ones energy. Or at least it does mine. I can’t wear it. To me, that’s not an advance, plastic clothing.
It was opined, in a discussion that not much has changed, that: “In the 70’s Cohen and a few others wrote most hit songs. Today is no different with most hit songs being written by two song writers”. That may or may not be true. However, the CONTENT of the songs — the lyrics particularly but also the (lack of) sophistication musically– has changed dramatically, and for the worse. You’re lucky to find a song today that strings two thoughts together. Most often it’s dumbed down promiscuity.
The soil was depleted as far back as the 1940’s. Most if not all people, as a result, are malnourished. Dr Royal Lee fought this lost battle for decades; the industrial food cartel destroyed his life because of that battle. But he left an important legacy of nutritional research describing the nutritional destructiveness of the food we all consume, thanks to “the families” who were described in one comment as “nurturers”.
Even the “vitamins” we’re sold are crap; they’re isolates which are ineffective. Royal Lee tells/told it like it is. And he predicted, being a scientific researcher, the endemic modern diseases — autoimmune, cancer, diabetes, obesity, et al. Hello? Is nobody aware of the dire state of humankind’s health?
People will say, well we had to have intensive farming; we had to have industrialized food. But that’s not true! Back in the day, people had vegetable gardens in their yards, and some chickens, and fruit trees, and a cow. They created their own food — butter, unpasteurized/healthy milk, eggs, veggies, fruits — as a matter of course. They made their own soap…. They were not dependent on grocery stores like we are now.
That’s been a change for the worse in many ways — to health, to freedom and independence, economically, and environmentally.
It’s the greedy industrialists who have wreaked havoc on the social, environmental, employment, economic, and educational aspects of mankind’s world. Somebody opined, “Paint the world in concrete. There’s nothing we’ve done more harmful to the land than this. Every road we’ve made, every city block we’ve demolished ….”
Excuse me! Who is “we?” Don’t tar me with that brush. It’s done all the time. And it is wrong headed. “We” are not responsible for the destruction. How could “we” be, when it is admitted that THEY are the controllers and have been for centuries? When our votes don’t count? When we’ve never had a voice? How can anybody fall for that we’ve done this and we’ve done that psyop?
It could have all been so different! Love and nurturing of humanity was an option not chosen. Humanity could have been cultivated, to bring out their best qualities — if megalomaniacs insist in control — instead of crushed under a jackboot for the sake of jealously guarded hegemony fueled by greed and materialism and nepotism.
I hate them! These people are cowards. I cringe when the benign appellation “the families” is applied to them. They have stolen people’s lives. They have, as the overseers of our earth, raped, and pillaged, and polluted it. They are nothing more than criminals.
“The systems that rule through deception and lies are collapsing” somebody opined. This is stated as fact. Where is the evidence for that? What “systems” are being referred to here? Further, “deceptive rulership is coming to an end”. What is the evidence for this? It sounds great! Tell me more.
Why would a secretive group, the Bilderbergs, publicize items on their meetings agenda? That doesn’t make any sense. It reminds me of a phrase, “Let them eat cake!”
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Jared Magneson said:
100% with you here. So many lives destroyed – so much pain, suffering, atrocity. So much trauma, at the hands of these people. It’s sickening. It’s the worst thing that has ever happened to humanity – but it’s been happening for so long now, it’s almost as though our society is addicted to the abuse. Like a jaded yet broken lover.
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cancelled said:
If only it were an addiction, then society could suffer temporary withdrawals, get the destructive crap out of the system and, thus detoxxed, proceed on a healthy course, much the wiser when confronted with future hazards, and thus avoiding relapse.
THEY HIDE.
This criminal cabal HIDE behind a monumental smokescreen, a thick disorienting fog of lies, false identities, fake events, manufactured history, puppet politicians, sabotage, propaganda disguised as “entertainment” and myriad other machinations, representative government being foremost amongst them.
Why do they hide? Hiding is the foundation of their enterprise! They hide in the dark so they can prey on others, amorphously, anonymously and relentlessly, without detection, and in doing so thereby consigning their zombified victims, also, to the dark by their machinatiions, with their victims none the wiser for having been fed upon by a distinct, conscious, motivated entity. What kind of entity does this? A vampire, that’s what.
And this criminal cabal of vampires, hiding so successfully behind an elaborate smokescreen, the abused know not that they are being abused; they chalk it all up to circumstance, happenstance, droughts, shortages, accidents, markets, genetics, and bogeymen (Hitlers, Mansons, Communists, Isis); little imagining, for most people are “decent”, that the diabolical things these criminals do, and have done, are deliberately orchestrated. Indeed, discovering it all is yet another trauma, and perhaps the worst of all.
How can you oppose an enemy you don’t know exists?! If you don’t know you have an enemy, there’s nothing left for you, except to abide, and to endure. This invisibility has been (((their))) greatest achievement.
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Russell Tropinsky said:
So much suffering in my own life. I’m a recovering heroin addict, been clean for about 6 years now and since finding Miles’ work I haven’t had a single craving. It turns out knowledge really is half the battle. Knowing that I had been made miserable not by legitimate events but mostly by artificial methods with the express purpose of eliciting those exact emotions is basically the strongest defense mechanism against participating in the darkness. I am only in my twenties, so I stopped before it stole everything from me, but I cannot say the same about two of my best friends who have past away.
I mean, if you need any proof that these faked events cause real harm, I am it. I walked around with a feeling of doom and gloom all day because of what I thought I knew about the world, the events on the news cast a serious dark cloud that loomed around me, and I would listen to the miserable musicians of grunge who would express that same sentiment for the purposes of making it worse. Why is that music so miserable? What is there really to be so upset about, I find myself wondering.
It’s all a spell, I’m just happy I can see that now. Takes a lot of the weight off knowing things really aren’t that bad, I just wish I could get some of my family/friends to see it the same way.
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lewis reid said:
Well said, I can’t help thinking of the “Mercy mercy me” lyric, they play it constantly on the radio at work, along with Hotel California:
Whoa, ah, mercy mercy me
Oh things ain’t what they used to be, no no
Where did all the blue skies go?
Poison is the wind that blows from the north and south and east
Whoa mercy, mercy me,
Oh things ain’t what they used to be, no no
Oil wasted on the oceans and upon our seas, fish full of mercury
Ah, oh mercy, mercy me
Ah things ain’t what they used to be, no no
Radiation under ground and in the sky
Animals and birds who live nearby are dying
And this one by the Doors, ‘When the music’s over’:
What have they done to the earth?
What have they done to our fair sister?
Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her
Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn
And tied her with fences and dragged her down
Malnourished, maleducated, misinformed, continual wars, is it still 1984?
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lewis reid said:
I forgot to add…Newspeak (political correctness), Thoughtpolice…
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Josh said:
Well said. Thank you for responding to these points so eloquently and decisively. One question: what is your preferred way to refer to “them”?
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Russell Taylor said:
See above! Quick tech’ list. Mobile phone. LED TV screen. ABS brakes. Air-bags. Breadmakers. Ceramic or induction hobs. High resolution digital music and their associated high resolution digital players. Ear buds with single 7mm speakers which sound even better than old style over-ear audiophile types. Powerful gaming computers with graphics so good, you can barely tell them from real video footage. 1080p video from your phone? Spacious and comfortable cars which are capable of 80mpg+. Cheap and efficient gas central heating combi-boilers. Warm, draught free double glazing. Polytunnels! Modern tyres that grip especially important for motorcyclists. Pagani Zonda. Maglev trains. Microwave ovens (dangerous or not, it’s a major advancement tech’wise). Electric buses. Extremely low energy LED light bulbs.
Lets see. 1970s equivalents: Land lines with rotary dials. Blurry B&W valve TV with tiny screen. Feeble brakes which don’t work very well in the rain. No air-bags or crumple zones or side impact beams. Need bread? Then you need to mess around for hours kneading your dough, letting it rise then baking it, or buy some doughy rubbish from a shop. Gas cooker = potential bomb in your kitchen. Crappy stereo with awful sound from tapes or scratched records with a record collection that takes up a whole room in your house instead of a few gigabytes worth of mp3s on your phone. Expensive but crap sounding headphones. Portable but heavy and bulky cassette player with around 2 hours between bulky, heavy, expensive battery changes. No computers! What’s 1080p resolution? Whats a mobile phone? Rusty, heavy, noisy, dangerous, cold, draughty, leaky cars, which smelled of oil and unburnt petrol, with headlamps like candles, that refused to start in the rain or less than 10C. Dirty smelly coal fire and no central heating radiators. Wooden or metal greenhouses with dangerous glass panels which smashed every time there was a storm. Draughty, leaky and cold sash windows. Old tyres which reminded you of vaseline every time you went round a corner in the rain. Don’t get me started on old motorcycles. Morris Minor. Steam Trains phased out by 1980. Whats a microwave oven? Although I believe Americans had those in the 1950s where in the UK we didn’t know they existed until the 1970s. Smokey, feeble, noisy, draughty, cold diesel buses. Tungsten light bulbs which made the TV go funny if the whole house was lit up at once (used to use so much power they dropped the house voltage enough to affect the valves in the TV…I kid you not). I hope that clears that up. How life can possibly have been better (the good old days?) back then is beyond my comprehension. Young kids glued to ipods is not Apples fault or the technology…blame the parents! They don’t allow their kids to use drugs or have sex because they are too young and its very wrong. So don’t give them an iPad until they are old enough. Guns don’t kill people…people kill people using guns. Its not the guns fault. If they don’t shoot the person they’ll use a knife or a car or a baseball bat or their fists or poison or a flight of stairs. I rest my case…
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cancelled said:
You know Josh, I’ve not found one. I’ve tried cabal, ghouls, vultures, psychopaths, megalomaniacs, parasites, vampires …. Nah. I think the word fascists is applicable, but again, it doesn’t satisfy. So I usually write (((they))) . It has an appropriately sinister look about it, and denotes the anonymity (((they))) hide behind. It would be nice to make up a new word, just for them; a “post-truth” era title that would single out this new phase of detection we have, thanks to Miles’s revelations of the families who control this world. I don’t like “the families” because “family” conjures up something warm and cozy and supportive and nurturing; it’s too kind. Perhaps we should have a contest, and invite entries, for an invention of this new word for (((them))). A label, like Hitler or Nazi or Truther or Judas, that brings with it much information in one fell swoop.
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Russell Tropinsky said:
You understand that that notation is normally used to “anti-semites” and “neo-nazis” including the “alt-right”. While it is rather funny, I don’t use it simply because it reinforces the idea that there are legions of anti-semitic white men who want nothing more than to victimize the innocent Jewish people.
If you go on twitter, the people using that notation are also calling people Niggers and spics and kikes, and while I don’t mind the language, I realize it is coming from the mouths of agents and spooks. They are attempting to cause chaos. The folks at “stormfront” use it, which should tell you where it comes from. It originated on a podcast called “the right stuff”, a podcast where Hitler is discussed as a hero, not an actor.
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cancelled said:
Hi Russell, you rest your case pretty much on material gains: cars, music technology, computers, TV’s, games, microwave ovens, polytunnels — fair enough. My concerns are in health, education, the arts and humanities, and opportunities for gainful, satisfying employment. I’d like to feel at least I have some privacy. I’d like to see more society, and less technology that has replaced it and isolated us. Yes, I know parents are responsible for their babies having iPads. But I also remember my adolescence and young adulthood: how I was compelled by some force to do and think things that were not true to myself. It was as though I was being carried along by some invisible, powerful tidal wave that took control of me. Now I know what that was: social engineering; programming. Now, it has no sway over me. But I have compassion and understanding for those who are swept up by it. And it takes effort, and serendipity, and perhaps the grace of God, too, to swim out of that strong current.
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Russell Taylor said:
“But I also remember my adolescence and young adulthood: how I was compelled by some force to do and think things that were not true to myself. It was as though I was being carried along by some invisible, powerful tidal wave that took control of me.”
Not only me then. Yep…I had those same feelings. Whichever way you turned you found a brick wall.
You can’t rent a home (permanent address) unless you have a regular job (income).
But you can’t get a job without a permanent address.
You can’t get a job without experience in that line of work.
But you can’t get experience without already having worked in that particular job.
Catch 22 every way you turn.
But I’m afraid it’s mainly material things that have made life better. Even water storage, filtration and treatment is electricly powered and 20th century technology. Look at the effects of clean water in African countries. They are even trialling home schooling due to the huge distances travelled to reach schools, using tablets and laptops. Tech’ helping educate in a very positive way, and not just children. We always hear scare stories about nuclear power yet it has a safety record far beyond anything that the coal industry could ever achieve. So effectively, coal fired power stations have indirectly been responsible for many thousands of deaths world-wide.
I used to look at life through highly pessimistic lenses, seeing only the bad things that seemed to make life worse. But now Miles has opened my eyes to the way things are run, I now have the opportunity to read life in a more meaningful way. Now I take every pessimistic thought or news article and turn it inside out to see just how bad it really is. In almost every case I find that what I thought was a bad idea or a terrible use of resources, or damaging to the environment, is actually beneficial and has a future positive outcome. Pessimism is soul rotting and the anxiety/suicide epidemic in western society is being driven by the media. Pointless violence and sadistic, depraved killing in films and song lyrics full of hatred and sadness and betrayal. No wonder the poor kids of today look so fed up.
A perfect example of the media twisting the truth is the photo of a bench full of people glued (addicted) to their mobile phones, texting and browsing. Underneath is another photo of a bench full of people back in the 1970s. They are all glued to their newspapers. That’s an example where nothing has changed. As Miles say’s, they have to keep us scared and lonely and absorbing the news articles that they need us to read. Started with newspapers, moved on to radio, then television, now the internet. The technology is extremely useful but allow it to enhance your life, don’t let it take over your life. The WHO now classifies gaming addiction as a mental health disorder. Does that also apply to chess? Darts? Poker? Cut through that fog folks!
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Patrick said:
Agree with you, Cancelled, regarding the overemphasis on the material things in our lives. Gizmos, gadgets, a better car tire…a material thing, in and of itself, doesn’t improve the quality of our consciousness or our love for and understanding of others – our humanity.
If I’ve understood MM correctly, the easy availability of all these toys is part of the governors’ plan: confused, unhappy people fork over the bucks to try to feel better. Also, the governors can say, “What’s all the fuss? Just look at all the stuff!”
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Russell Taylor said:
I see hundreds of millions of people across the world without gadgets or technology. They are all dirty, malnourished, impoverished, poor, diseased, and have a look of complete despair. Technology isn’t just mobile phones and laptops. Look at the amazing technology in modern western hospitals. MRI scanners being just one example. New types of tarmac that drain water more efficiently, have much higher grip and are much quieter. Fully synthetic motor oils which only need changing every 20,000 miles. Disc brakes on cycles (Miles?). I remember having steel chromed rims in the 1970s and when it rained you had no brakes. Self cleaning windows for skyscrapers. Sat nav. Fridges and freezers are modern technology and where would your local supermarket be without them? When have we ever been able to do an entire months worth of shopping in a single visit before the 1980s? Dyson…hoovers that work! UnbreakableThermos flasks… I could go on all day listing really useful technology but the point is not all of it is harmful, either to our health or sense of wellbeing, or a detriment to society as a whole. Your carpets are cleaner when you invite friends round because hoovers have improved immensely over the past 30 years, so you’re not embarrassed. Your kids can stop at the end of the street in the rain because their cycle brakes actually work so they feel more confident and you know they are safer. You can enjoy sitting out in the sun with a beer today because the traffic noise has been reduced by 20db by the new tarmac, so it’s quieter in your garden. Look at sat nav with traffic avoidance. Its like having someone sat beside you who knows the route and has permanent communication with a helicopter pilot, who flies above you wherever you go, looking out for traffic jams. In my job I’d be lost without it…literally!
It is true what Miles says about marketing and advertising coercing us into buying far more tech than we really need but if you look hard enough, for long enough, you have to see the benefits staring you in the face. At the end of the day, even if you lived like a hermit because you were severely disabled and had no family, you could still get your shopping delivered. But I guess refrigerated vans are also classified as new technology…you just can’t get away from it. That knock on the door from the delivery man would certainly put a smile on your face…
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Jared Magneson said:
“I see hundreds of millions of people across the world without gadgets or technology. They are all dirty, malnourished, impoverished, poor, diseased, and have a look of complete despair. ”
How is it that you’re able to “see hundreds of millions of people across the world”, Russel Taylor? What crystal ball are you using? What metric? What magical forces allow you to perceive a large fraction of humanity, that nobody else has ever seen or used or had access to?
It sounds like you watched a Child Sponsorship in Africa infomercial and took it heavy to heart. Or some Sarah McLachlan shit that’s got you all worked up. How are “they all” dirty and poor, without cell phones? That’s ridiculous and retarded. How are they in complete despair without 16-core Zen computers? You don’t have one, so you must be malnourished and diseased yourself?
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Russell Taylor said:
Clean water supply, helping offset drought induced famine. Better communication over great distances. Better transport. It takes modern technology to bring about these things. I see these problems the same way you do Jared through the media available. Not the news which is twisted and biased but there is plenty of video footage. available. An example is a motorcycle trek through African contries. These are just ordinary folk who fancy an adventure and have no reason to lie or decieve anyone. They just record what they see. Those are the kind of sources I use to inform myself. I also know several people who have lived in Africa until recently, including S Africa, Malawi and Ethiopia, so I have real witness observations to go on.
Interglacial periods don’t last long and it is said that our belief that ice ages begin very slowly is wrong. All that global warming funded ice core data has chnged our views, we now have far more information to go on. We are now around 12,500 years into this latest interglacial…we are running out of time.
I did explain that the ice free parts of the planet during an ice age will have their own problems such as catastrophic cold spells, prolonged droughts, floods and isolated sudden heatwaves. The knock on effect throughout the animal kingdom will be horrendous. If the grasses don’t grow fast enough due to prolonged drought, the cattle starve, along with other grazing animals like wildebeest, elephants, gazelle. As their numbers decline over many years, the predators will starve and start eating each other. These things happen today under similar conditions. The only things which will thrive and will be relatively unaffected will be in the oceans. The conditions will wipe out most insect across huge areas of both hemispheres so most of the birdlife must migrate south increasing competition for the insects which survive in those equatorial regions. I know I’m oversimplifying this but my comments are two miles long as it is. I don’t like to see the earth plundered the way it has been but….I live in Derbyshire in England and Derbyshire is pock marked with hundreds of limestone quarries and old tin and lead mines. ‘Oh how horrible and what an eyesore’, I used to think. But some of the most beautiful valleys and gorges have been produced by mining and quarrying. When left to grass over and trees allowed to grow back, the bird life and wild flowers and insects are more numerous than any of the surrounding land. So I now have a new perspective on such things. I don’t see that plunder as being as bad as I first thought. Most environmentalists I speak to have a very blinkered view and see humans as a scourge. They then put on their plastic fleece, text their wife on their mobile that they are on their way home, then get in their nice Audi A4 diesel and drive home. Life is not B&W but you’d be surprised how many people see it that way.
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R T said:
I can’t help but feel like you just agree with everyone else. You’re basically just saying technology is great, and that it’s so helpful that it almost makes up for the fact that we’re destroying all semblance of culture, intelligence, family, womanhood, manhood, and a clean environment. Obviously it’s fucking useful, we all know that, or it wouldn’t be so pervasive. It’s just not worth it though, it’s not at all.
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Russell Taylor said:
You are missing my point entirely. So take away all those technological advancements from the past what, 55 years? I was a child back then and life was cold, boring, dirty (there’s that word again, remember coal fires?), and dangerous. No seat belts. So that’s a good thing is it? In 1972 there were over 7,700 deaths on UK roads. And that was better than today was it with only 1,720 in 2017? ABS brakes, reflective clothing, Pelican Crossings, all new technology, all saving literally thousands of lives per year. It’s called progress! Smoke detectors are modern technology. Should we rip them all out and try luck instead? Miles might not have a mobile phone but he’s risking it if he doesn’t have a smoke alarm. My cousin and his daughter died because he took the batteries out of his due to being fed up hearing the alarm going off every time they cooked dinner. Widespread use of toughened glass that doesn’t slice your face off when you’re in an automobile accident. Been around for centuries but not in cars. Even modern flues on gas boilers that don’t feed carbon monoxide back into your home are modern tech’ as are carbon monoxide detectors/alarms. Vehicle reversing cameras. Should we get rid of those and go back to reversing over small children playing in the car park? Ah no! I see where this is going. The activist type of approach to the subject would be, ‘lets just get rid of vehicles’. And go back to the horse & cart and while we’re at it lets have some typhoid and cholera to make life more interesting. The further back you go, the worse life was. You need to sit down and think carefully about what life would be like without all the tech’. I know, because I remember not having it. What you seem to be focussing on is socio-political problems which have nothing at all to do with modern technology advancing human life which was my original point. Cultures have been built then destroyed countless times throughout history, why would today be any different? Yes we are deliberately dumbed down using many different methods. Yes the family and masculinity are being destroyed but this is not the first time its happened. The same thing happened just before all the major civilisations collapsed. They all collapsed in similar fashion, due to climatic changes causing widespread famine and disease, so I can only assume that the rulers of the time, deliberately sowed the seeds of hatred and disruption into society to weaken any threat to their sovereignty, control and eventually their very survival. They became aware that the poop was about to hit the fan as food became scarce. The people wouldn’t have a clue. They would just think it was a bad harvest or two, unaware that it would last for several decades. Isn’t that what we are witnessing today? Civilisations always reach a peak, during warm climatic periods, when crops thrive and disease is less of a threat. Then something happens to cause the people to have ritual sacrifices of whole families including their animals and begin cannibalism. Lots of evidence from all over the world that this has happened many times. The things they are doing to society today don’t make much sense at face value. It can’t simply be to sell more t-shirts and beer. It has more to do with keeping control in my opinion.
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Jared Magneson said:
Not one of the things you listed tells us in any way HOW to live. They simply make it safer and easier for the Free-Range Stupid to continue breeding prolifically, which as I’ve stated promotes the absolute erasure of all other life on Earth. Pelican Crossings are a technological advance? How about not covering the Earth in concrete in the first place?
I understand where you’re coming from but you vastly overvalue human life, and inadvertently promote the locusthood of humanity. Which is, to all plants and animals on Earth, tantamount to their doom. Permanent doom. The only thing our culture is good at is killing everything else.
I find this morally disgusting and more, the worst plague this planet has ever seen. No other creature has caused more harm, in all of known history. You celebrate it but that’s because you feel for the propaganda – the unsaid “story” of Who We Are that tells us since birth that the World is ours to deplete, rape, destroy, and murder. Everything you listed (other than pelicans, of all things) promotes this destruction and annihilation.
So what if human life is easier? Life shouldn’t be easy. An easy life is a useless one. Laziness is NOT a virtue.
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Russell Taylor said:
I used to feel the same way you do Jared, that humans are taking a liberty, that we are pushing too far too fast and should change our ways. But I no longer feel that same overwhelming need to point the finger at humanity. Up until very recently, the last 1,000 years or so, the blink of an eye historically, humans haven’t had it so good. Without technology we had it pretty tough, farming small holdings and fighting off marauding tribes from elswhere who needed food due to famine. Trying to reproduce as quickly as possible because disease kept on killing us off. Depending where in the world you lived there was a constant threat from either cold, drought, famine, floods. These things still affect millions of people today. And as for ‘humanity’, the adults who eat but let their children starve across Africa is nothing new. The story of Hansel and Gretel is about the last little ice age, where their parents took them into the woods and left them because they weren’t able to feed the whole family, so left them to fend for themselves. This was commonplace. People even ate their dead family members including children. As populations grew, and this is no different in the animal kingdom, as competition for useful land and resources grew, the killing started. That’s not changed apart from we now do it on a country sized scale. We were held at bay by famine and disease mostly. Mother nature is no different and we constantly see whole species die back or get wiped out by disease (Dutch Elm Disease?). Yes animals do adapt and are very good at it but they also die off all the time and more often than not, it’s not our fault.
If I were to point the finger of doom at all it would be at automation. This doesn’t benefit humanity because it takes away our ability to earn a living and have a strong purpose and drive in our lives, and leaves us with a large percentage of the populous surviving on benefits. Automation is growing extremely quickly and very soon it will have a devastating impact on society. Again, you have to ask the question why? It’s no good just stating facts about how terrible things are but not knowing why. Why would the population be allowed to grow if it’s going to be highly detrimental to society as a whole? Why push for almost total automation if it’s so destructive for society. They had to take care of us when they needed us to fight wars to plunder other countries resources, and to produce all the infrastructure and saleable goods. So what’s in the offing for humanity? Those same super rich families who have had control for so long and mould society how they see fit, seem to be allowing things to slide. Those same people who have built all the cities and caused all the polution are now blaming humanity, not themselves specifically, and are talking about population control. Something big is going to happen but I have a nagging feeling that it won’t be aliens invading or financial meltdown (although that could be a useful part of the plan), or a third world war, or even a viral pandemic. Those are the things being promoted and Miles has taught us to seek the truth elsewhere. Little Ice Age conditions are being talked down and disregarded as a threat by the families. We are the only threat to our own existence. Do you honestly believe that? Whole, huge, successful civilisations have been completely wiped out by sudden climatic change. It is cyclic, THEY know, and we are about to head into another cold cycle. Not necessarily a full blown ice age but certainly a bit of climatic turmoil. And I reiterate, nature is far more destructive than humans. I think this is why we are seeing such a surge in development of GM crops and conservation of earth resources like coal and nuclear fuels. Someone knows whats coming but what would happen if The President announced on the news that we were heading into a climatic shift and around 25% of the worlds population could be wiped out in less than a decade? Instant chaos the likes of which we have never seen. So they lie, to keep control. They tell us that a shift in climate is happening but they call it warming not cooling. They tell us the opposite of the truth, isn’t that what Miles is always telling us? Don’t you always find that this is the case? Isn’t that why THEY have now gotten control of almost every powerful nation in the world? You run a house or if you’re lucky a company. THEY run the flippin planet.
And as far as concrete is concerned, the UK was mapped out to find how much of the land was covered in concrete, tarmac and brick. The result? Around 1.7%. The rest is green fields, moorland, mountains, lakes, woodland etc. Things are not as bad as you are told. Ever seen Nebraska? Idaho? There’s nothing there…they’re empty.You could move the whole population of England into Nebraska and it would still look empty.
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Andrea said:
Just because you mention it, the black plague (or death) in the 1300 is not believable to me. I know there are tons of references, but still…
When young, I read „i pomessi sposi“ from Alessandro Manzoni. The book is a classic and the chapter about the plague was good but I had the impression it was a topic by itself. Today I would think it was added by a comitee.
We have tons of details from roman times, 2000 years ago. But the medioevel time, 1000-1400, almost nothing. The plague, the normanns, the ever lasting wars…
It is like we should not look into it.
Maybe it was a time when the families became sloppy, decadent, and lost control. That would be my first hypothesis.
One day I might look into it.
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Jared Magneson said:
Calgacus over at Vexman’s blog linked me to the book I’m reading on the topic, and I must contradict you here my dear. We also have tons of details from the medieval times, especially during the Black Death. In fact most of our details come from that era, from 1290-1350 or so, precisely because of the Black Death. I don’t know why it’s not believable to you other than of course our revered skepticism, but there are so many accounts of the various forms it took that it seems apparent it wasn’t one single root cause, such as Bubonic Plague. That is the premise of this book – that it was a combination of many factors, chiefly astrogenic causes (a comet, many meteor showers, vulcanism and geologic response to the bombardment). Outgassing of CO2 and other natural factors. It also explores the possibility the plague aspect itself arrived from space, on one of these meteorites or as ejecta from the comet.
It’s a long read, much dryer than Mathis, but I’ve learned a great deal and explored new ground in almost every paragraph. The only spin I can detect is the author’s suggestion that it may have been astrogenic, really. I’m not finished with it so I can’t say more. Here’s the e-book:
Click to access 01-02-2018-updated-black-death-and-abrupt-earth-changes.pdf
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andrea said:
thank you very much for the link to the book! I will look into it. And you are probably right, the main reason for being sceptic is, hollywood makes films about it, Manzoni wrote a bestseller about it, jews were accused of starting it on purpose, etc. So the usual markers. But definitely no proofs, yet.
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Jared Magneson said:
It’s kind of a slow read like I said, so I just do a few paragraphs or pages a night, constantly highlighting events I’d like to know more about or see further evidence on and right-clicking and selecting “Search (Google) for “(phrase selected)”, which opens in a new tab for easy cross-referencing. That doesn’t have to be your style but I’m finding it terribly useful, and learning a lot about that period I would have never known otherwise. A bountiful article, whatever the conclusion or premise entails.
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Grace said:
Russell Taylor writes that he fears the propoganda is getting to me because I witness a downward spiral and then goes on to say that our world is better because we have 60” plasma/LED high definition screens and channels with Dolby surround sound. And I’m the one affected by propoganda!?!? ILMAO.
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scoutito said:
I don’t know what kind of crappy stereo you listened to from the 70’s –My stereo from the 70’s sounds fantastic! Kenwood receiver encased in READ wood & Sansui speakers,
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Russell Taylor said:
Advances in audio have outstripped our ability to fully appreciate them. Our ears do have limitations. But in the 70s you had vinyl surface noise, plus tape hiss, even clearly audible with Dolby A on open reel tape players. Today’s digital music has a huge dynamic range and an almost bottomless noise floor. I heard plenty of high end systems back in the day but you can’t possibly compare them to todays technology.
Try listening to 24bit 196khz files on a top end system. It will bring you to tears!
A simple sine wave test where a 20 year old can’t hear above 16khz is meaningless. Our ears and brains are quite capable of discerning much higher frequencies. Also extreme low frequencies which you don’t hear as a musical note or tone but you can still percieve it as a deep vibration. Listen to a huge explosion or even a large church organ with a frequency depth of 16hz on standard issue equipment (not CD or vinyl due to limitations) It’ll sound like a recording of an explosion. Then listen on equipment that’s capable of reproducing those frequencies accurately and it will scare you to death…because it will sound real, so much so your brain will trick you into thinking that you actually felt the explosion through your feet. If you were played that extra low bass on it’s own you wouldn’t hear it, but added to the other explosion sounds, it gives it a much greater impact. So your brain is perfectly capable of perceiving it but requires the rest of the frequencies to make sense of it and reproduce it accurately in your conscious mind.
This was impossible in the 1970s. Hiss and rumble were filtered out for starters. Not to mention wow & flutter…oh and jitter with CD! Go high res digital…it will blow your mind.
I take it the Kenwood/Sansui reference was sarcasm?
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scoutito said:
No, that is my stereo “system”.
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Jared Magneson said:
We’ve all had access to digital formats for most of our lives, and .ogg files and better are nice but hardly necessary to enjoy music. They’re still not as clean and clear as real music, by definition. A live guitar will always, always sound better than a recorded guitar because a speaker is not a guitar. It cannot sound identical simply due to its shape, no matter the signal or design acoustics. This is true of each and every instrument, ever.
So it doesn’t blow my mind. Even as a part-time musician it doesn’t make me flinch. We have some fine instruments here, acoustic and electric, and recording the mandolin is nothing like hearing it. Same with the low end – recording the 5-string Carvin isn’t nearly as warm or satisfying as playing it or hearing it played, even through the same speakers (monitors). The only time you get excited about recording quality is if you’re trying to sell your music or otherwise store it, but that has almost no bearing on how well it’s played, how nice the instruments are, or the talent and skill of the musician.
The “advances” have not outstripped anything. They have more finely approximated real sound, but that’s not an outstripping.
You seem to worship modern tech without really analyzing why. It’s a common affliction, but one I would urge you to dive into from the opposing view, since it seems like your judgement is quite murky on this one. I mean no insult. Just polemics here; you make easily-countered points.
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Russell Taylor said:
Yes Jared….my opinion is based on around 50 years of listening to some very expensive set ups and referencing that sound to live music. Electronic reproduction is full of serious compromises due to bass speaker anomalies and room acoustics. This is why some venues have to spend lots of money on acoustic dampers to prevent unwanted echo and frequency boost. Everyones listening room is a different shape with varied levels of reflective and absorptive surfaces, which are guaranteed to be completey different to either the recording studio or live venue. The subject is piled high with compromises. I listened to what I thought was an expensive set up in the 1980s and although the room acoustic was terrible I was hooked on the systems ability to reproduce certain instruments with extreme clarity. That all changed in the 1990s when I went to my first Hi-fi show, and listened to some stupidly expensive equipment. We were talking $45,000 for a set of speakers. But the sound was unbelievable. The level of dynamic power and the clarity were something I’d not experienced before except in a live venue. But even live venues suffer from chronic acoustic illness. Too small to reproduced even half-wave bass of any depth, and irregular shaped rooms which cause a myriad of unwanted reflections. The speakers are more often than not simply placed at the sides of a wooden stage. You would never dream of placing your high fidelity speakers on a tea-chest or wooden cupboard at home. So the vast majority of electrically powered music is severely compromised from the get go. Recording studio’s are the exception because preventing frequency boost and reflections is paramount. The only big problem is the production engineer twiddling the knobs on the mixing desk. They affect the end result due to introducing their own interpretation on the mix down. Another engineer would set the levels of different instruments according to what they thought was best and often vary wildly from each other. Remember the blistering drums and bass qualities that Hugh Padgham produced for people like Phil Collins, Sting, The Police, Peter Gabriel etc, not his famous gated drums and selective reverb but just the way he found dynamic levels that no-one could achieve before, well, except Quincy Jones. And dynamics is where the truth is in music. Just like the bloke says in the poor music video, most pop has hardly any dynamics and most kids listening on cheap earbuds and mobile phones won’t be able to reproduce a wide dynamic range anyway. Listen to a full blown orchestra, then try to find a player or room/system combination that will faithfully reproduce it. Believe me, in a very large room, with the nearest matching acoustic to the live venue and an extremely expensive sound system, it can almost be done. The man in the street cannot come close to this surely? But the latest affordable equipment gets you very close and for reasons which may not be obvious at first. Most people would baulk at paying $1,200 for a pair of ear-buds but for those brave enough, the leap forward in terms of sound fidelity are worth every single cent. No problems with speaker type or configuration. No problems with speaker siting. No problems sourcing or affording amplifiers capable of driving expensive speakers which are required to deliver the dynamic range and control to get the expected fidelity. No problems with room acoustics. You don’t lose 20% of your room to cables and stands and equipment. You get the same astonishing dynamics, clarity, detail, balance and grin factor, whether you are at home, on a train, on the beach or on a hill-top miles from anywhere. The only caveat is that the player you listen through must be capable of delivering the level of fidelity that the expensive buds can deliver. They also shut out most external noise so can still be enjoyed in most situations, although a silent room does give a higher level of clarity due to the lower noise floor. The abilities of these tiny machines has to be heard to be believed. On paper their performance seems impossible. Single 7mm speakers delivering dynamics that make you blink, and a balance to a full orchestra that you can only achieve in a live setting. You even get a more accurate sense of the size and shape of the venue with live recordings. That is impossible with speakers in a room due to the acoustic problems I mentioned earlier. To have that level of high fidelty music reproduction, in your shirt pocket, wherever you go is one of the most enjoyable things in life for me. After hearing Beethovens Choral Symphony No9 in a large concert hall, it took me nearly 20 years to find a system capable of reproducing that experience reasonably faithfully.
So a live band on a stage is impossible to reproduce accurately due to acoustic limitations.
A studio recording is impossible to reproduce accurately using speakers in a reflective room. Only a live recording can come close and using the right equipment, a recording taken straight off the mixing desk can be reproduced fairly accurately.
If it’s mixed well and sounds great then what the heck but the fidelity I’m talking about is the guy sat on a stool, singing, playing an acoustic guitar, where you can hear the bubbles popping on his tongue and lips as he sings.
Top end ear-buds can achieve far more than a speaker/room set up ever can but not through your iPod!
Beware the swindlers though. Lots of marketing men will try to sell you speaker cable at $70 a foot claiming it improves the sound. It may sound different but better? There is some truth behind the claims, which can be proven in double blind tests, but not $70 worth of difference. Cons such as oxygen free copper. Copper is oxygen free. so not a lie but still misleading. Read it…then question it. Hear it, then you can believe it.
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Russell Taylor said:
Also Vinyl, tape and CD are very limited. Digital recordings at studio quality can be bought and listened to now through lots of afforable players. People are quite happy to spend £1500 on the latest mobile phone, then change it for the latest model after 3 years, yet they refuse to spend that same amount of an amazing music player which will probably last them 20 years and make the phone sound awful, unleashing a new level of excitement from their music collection. Its like every album has been re-mixed. Your ears have been missing so much detail.
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Alan Ackley said:
Did you have to replace all the electrolytic capacitors in your old equipment? They usually only have about a 20 year lifespan.
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scoutito said:
Yes, I did have to have the reciever refurbished. Power capacitor went out. Glad I kept it though
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Mathis der Maler said:
I’m with you, Scout. I have a 70s Yamaha receiver, with Technics turntable, mono vinyl is the sound I like best. 60s-70s pop bands are in a different world altogether than post 90s pop. Something crashed in the late 80s, though I can’t say why exactly. Yes, pop was always controlled, as we know, but they used to have some concern for the music. THey had real songwriters and people could play their instruments. Now it is just computer-generated crap. A synthesized voice over a drum machine and a fake guitar or piano. Music for emotionally flat cyborgs.
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Russell Taylor said:
There is great music today Miles, you just have to put the effort into sampling whats available and finding the gems, takes many hours of searching, and it’s music that’s usually not available in music stores like HMV or heard on the radio. Independent labels and usually high res’ digital or CDs. Mostly very carefully recorded by enthuisiasts. And often cheaper than mainstream music.
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Jared Magneson said:
As usual, the mainstream is mostly populated by dead fish. I’ve found one modern genre that has offered more purism of content and quality, but most would balk at it since it’s also populated by garbage. Metal isn’t all garbage though, fortunately. Some of it is the best, most complex, thoughtful music written and produced in our era (in my opinion, obviously).
In music, I seek something sublime. It’s an absolute rarity. It has to tap my emotions and release them, and most people consider the “emotion” of Metal to just be pure anger or arrogance or overt obnoxious noise. This is true of all the mainstream stuff, but off in the hidden forests there are some buried treasures to be found, and unearthing them has given me great joy.
My favorite band is a Christian Metal band, of all things, and I am very far from Christian (though I was raised Mormon). But they tap all kinds of emotions and never really sing about Christian propaganda or anything – the only way I found out they were Christian was because they released a Christmas album. But their music is incredible. They’re the best I’ve ever heard, complex, rich, insanely skilled, and written more like Classical than anything else. You will find no pop influence in stuff like this, not the Beatles, not Sabbath, none of that drivel. Certainly no modern electronic crap. All their music could be played equally awesome with acoustic instruments only.
Another gem are the various instrumentals from modern Metal bands. They are often just interludes between other songs, but they really get down in there for me, way down deep where the Feeling hides. Sometimes to the point of tears – that rare event where my suppressed grief and love and pain and joy emerge. No words are necessary, only the music.
My point is that even though pop music is generally complete horseshit, that doesn’t mean the Art of Music is lost. It’s just more rare.
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Russell Taylor said:
When I got an insurance pay-out and decided to buy my dream equipment, the third album I tried was metal and I couldn’t believe the beautiful detail and balance. Nothing stood out or tried to overpower anything else, yet you could follow each and every instrument. With inferior equipment that’s why most people hate metal. They describe hearing a load of distorted sceaming guitars. Just guitar noise. This is called blurring when the speaker drivers cannot resond quickly enough to input. They literally get a flap on and start smearing all the guitars together. I totally agree with them. But I also have a friend who loves the old Motown slightly harsh, slightly distorted music. When he heard his motown through my equipment he hated it, because all the harshness and distortion all but disappeared. So that made me question what was happening mechanically to eliminate this particular sound which he had come to love so much. Timing and frequency peaks. Its a long story. More for e-mail than this blog.
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scoutito said:
I have a Tecnhics turntable too. Those 60-70’s albums have the best sound ever. I love live music but to my ear, this is next to best.
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Russell Taylor said:
I agree the quality of popular music has reached abyss level. There’s an interesting video on YouTube where someone explains many of the reasons why modern music really is terrible … makes some very interesting points >> https://youtu.be/oVME_l4IwII <<
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Jared Magneson said:
Pop music has always been terrible, by definition. Only dead fish swim with the mainstream.
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Russell Taylor said:
Not all pop music surely Jared. I think the production quality and lyrics on albums from Suzanne Vega, Tracy Chapman, Peter Gabriel transcend most of the vile, flat uninspiring drivel which passes for popular music these days. Again, most of the dynamics and detail in great recordings people never hear. The modern day pop has no dynamic range or subtle detail or lyrical quality so it doesn’t matter what you listen through, it still sounds awful…
This is superb through good equipment but sounds flat on cheap equipment.
…and don’t forget, men can’t multi-task hehehehe!
I think you’ll find this fascinating Jared. https://youtu.be/ZT_1UATci3c
Just grabbed this – tip of the cable ice berg. https://youtu.be/lG-3KyURXqk
This talk is brilliant…a real eye opener. https://youtu.be/JYjHKv2_OqQ
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ihatestarwars said:
One youtube commenter has quipped: ‘The TRUTH Why Modern Music Is Awful OR That moment when you finally became your parents.’
Nowadays, my grandparents music is preferable to listening to some shouty bloke mumbling over some sample/cacophony.
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rolleikin said:
“’The systems that rule through deception and lies are collapsing’ somebody opined. This is stated as fact. Where is the evidence for that?”
The evidence is the growing awareness of their deception expressed right here on this website and many other places. It is also evident every time they start a new project aimed at countering this awareness. If it didn’t threaten them they wouldn’t bother. Their empire is built on lies but lies only work when they are believed. As public belief in their scams dwindles so does their power over us.
“Why would a secretive group, the Bilderbergs, publicize items on their meetings agenda? That doesn’t make any sense.”
Because they know their actions are now suspect, so they are forced to make themselves appear more benevolent by publicizing agendas that make them appear to be working for the common good.
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cancelled said:
I guess I don’t see that as a “collapse”.
It was truly a healthy tonic to read the comments on this website that Josh has hosted — thank you, dear Josh. But aside from this recent forum, I had felt starved. YouTube went down the tubes a while ago. So there was nobody to my knowledge, aside from Miles, that I trusted anymore. I think there have been about 250 different people at the party? Of course, there could be more visitors who didn’t say hello. That’s why I question a collapse of this global agenda. And too, “appearing” more benevolent is not being more benevolent. It’s just more of the same chicanery. You know, the “Let them eat cake!” contempt for the human beings on this planet.
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Alan Ackley said:
I see the possibility of a slow control system collapse happening, but it is nowhere near complete. 27 years ago fake news was just a Dilbert cartoon (curiously on 9/11/1991), but now it is a spreading awareness.
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Jared Magneson said:
While I agree that it feels like sentiment is rising against THEM, we’re also the lucky or able few who have discovered Miles and each other, so it seems like our viewpoints on this topic may be biased.
I don’t think they’ll collapse on their own, and even if they do the root cancer of our culture, Totalitarian Agriculture, will still continue plodding on towards the locusthood of humanity even without the current THEM involved. Another THEM will replace them, as theyve done for some 9,000 years now. A return to natural law may no longer be possible, short of a massive annihilation of some sort, perhaps like the Black Death back in the 1300s. But even a vast depopulation won’t change things if people don’t learn How Things Went Wrong. To learn how they went wrong, we have to also uncover What Happened, which is something Miles and a few others really excel at and we need them to keep going, and push us all to keep learning more as well.
There’s no single “right” way to live as a culture, but there are many, many wrong ways to live. Our culture is doing it wrong, from top to bottom in every nation everywhere. Once you put the food under lock and key and then hoard it and lord it over the people who grow and raise it, you’re back to square zero. Humanity did fine without Totalitarian Agriculture for perhaps a million years, with a roughly stable population as well. It was only when our ancestors stepped outside of natural law and decided to own the world that things started going sour; prior to our culture, the world was a healthier place and humanity wasn’t the parasite we are now.
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Andrea said:
To why Bilderberg needs an agenda: under current law, if people from competing companies meet „to discuss business“, they must have an agenda. Actually, they should also have minutes, to prove they did not discuss prices, or customers or other forbidden topics. At least with the agenda they are saying: see, nothing illegal here…
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rolleikin said:
I agree it is too soon to break out the champagne and confetti, but I think things are going better for us than it may appear. They want us to feel it is hopeless, you know. It is an old wartime tactic to foster defeatism within the enemy’s ranks. “Whisper campaigns” they call them.
In any case, awareness IS growing and this is very bad for them. And, since they can be seen taking defensive actions to combat it, they must be concerned about it.
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ihatestarwars said:
Has anyone come across this siteup?: http://dianamystery.com
‘The DIANA-MORRISSEY PHENOMENON, starring Jayne Mansfield (aka Vera Jane PALMER), Princess Diana’s Death Foreshadowed in Morrissey’s Work’. A friend sent the link as it has a Beatles connection, is it either an elaborate pisstake or what?
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cancelled said:
I don’t doubt Princess Diana’s death was faked, since reading Miles. But I’ve never been able to find any respectable source to research that. And I haven’t seen Miles do any writing on that topic, unless I missed it. I must admit to being curious …. And whether Al Fayed was in on it, given all the public axes he had to grind with the British government.
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Mickey Callaway said:
Your papers are very interesting, certainly the most cutting edge stuff I’ve read in a while. I wonder if you’ll ever address the Dark Web, and will you ever write a paper about what’s happening there. Maybe there’s not much there to write about, but it appears that the Dark Web is the last place to avoid surveillance. My other question for you: Does Intel (CIA, DHS, NSA, FBI, IRS) know everything about us? Is there an electronic dossier attached to our SSN, so that every time we go on the internet we are being tracked from our IP address? Is the internet just a massive surveillance system which collates and categorizes our entire activity on the internet? And finally, given that we have cell phones and ISPs, is every movement we make on a day-to-day basis tracked by Intel agencies? I’ve had the unsettling experience of purchasing an item in a store with my credit card, and then being sent popup ads trying to sell me the same items from the moment I walked out the door of that retail store! One last thing too. Mark Wahlberg made a movie about the Boston Bombing. It really made me sick to see that, given what we know about the actual events and the fraudulence thereof. Wahlberg has to be an agent, right?
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Patrick Richardson said:
When I saw Mark Wahlberg make a movie of Boston Hoax, I knew immediately he was in on it. I think most of Hollywood works that way. Miles has shown that these fake events are inextricably interwoven into the fabric of our entertainment industry, which is run by the CIA. So it makes a lot of sense that fake Boston Bombing production would in turn lead to fake Boston Bombing movie production. There is no way Mark Wahlberg has not seen the obvious video evidence that proves Boston Bombing was one of the worst hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American public. How he could willingly make a movie that recreates that fraud only implicates him in the complicity of that mass deception, in my honest opinion.
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Andy Martino said:
Everything produced in Hollywood since 1980 is a CIA production. Yes, sadly, Star Wars too. If you compare 1970s Hollywood (which produced maybe a dozen decent movies) to 1980s Hollywood, the CIA takeover is transparently stark. Tom Cruise was the first CIA wonderboy. Top Gun is ugly CIA propaganda.
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Jared Magneson said:
I just watched “The Departed” again, my favorite spooky gangster-flick of them all, and Mark Wahlberg’s character is of course especially spooky. He even commits the last murder of the film. The entire movie is basically Langley blackwashing the FBI. It’s a great movie, once you learn to see past the spin. If you’re not familiar with it, it’s Leonardo DiCaprio playing an undercover cop inflitrating a New York (or maybe Boston?) crime ring, led by Jack Nicholson. Matt Damon plays Leo’s mirror, a nephew figure of the crime lord Nicholson who has infiltrated the New York PD at Nicholson’s behest. So we have two “spies” working against each other, almost Langley-style – while the entire time the FBI is fucking things up in the background. Mark Wahlberg plays Leo’s “handler” in the State PD, but it’s pretty much a metaphor. Martin Sheen plays his other handler.
I can’t remember the exact words Marky-Mark said this time I watched it but it was so crystal clear he was in on the whole thing that my jaw dropped. That said, he does have some great lines throughout:
“Who am I? I’m the guy who does his job – you must be the other guy.”
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Mathis der Maler said:
I can’t watch any of those putzes anymore. I would rather watch old reruns of Lassie. Not joking.
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cancelled said:
Absolutely!
I never imagined I would see the day when a celebrity would arouse in me nothing but contempt.
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ihatestarwars said:
And Lassie was a Laddie! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pal_(dog)
Love the line ‘Profession: Actor’
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EggHead said:
I too have reached this point. My father in law was staying with us and we watched several Bogart & Bacall movies. You wanna see a true agent at work, watch Bogart. What a piece of work.
It’s just too much anymore looking for a decent suspension of disbelief and dead ending into programming and sales gimmicks brought to us by holly-weird. Oh well, I guess I could go surfing or read more papers. Right?
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Jared Magneson said:
I view them more as comedy than anything serious, but all spin aside some actors are still much better than others. DiCaprio is much more convincing than Damon, for example. I don’t idolize any of them, it’s just an observation. The female lead in The Departed, Vera something-or-other, went on to play Norma Bates in the “Bates Motel” series, which is of course a total psy-op, but it was entertaining to me to see them milk that Psycho stuff for all they could. It wasn’t much. There wasn’t much milk left in that cow. But she’s still quite lovely.
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Josh said:
Mickey are you addressing me or Miles? This isn’t his site so if you have questions for him you should probably just e-mail him. As for me I don’t know if I will ever write a paper about the Dark Web, though I doubt you can avoid surveillance with it. At this point I suppose they do know pretty much everything about us, or at least the information is out there and in principle accessible if they want, but probably most of it sits around in big databases while algorithms go through it trying to use it to sell products, like the example you just gave. The algorithms obviously aren’t very smart if they’re offering you advertisements for something you just bought.
I’m sure Marky Mark got to where he is today not on the basis of what he can do but who he is. In other words, through nepotism. That doesn’t mean he isn’t talented, just that his talent is not so rare. I don’t know how much people at his level really know about what is going on in the world. The vast majority of people accept the story they are told about, say, the Boston Bombing. Just because an actor got to where they were because of who they are doesn’t necessarily mean they are ‘in on it.’ They might be, but I think there is a lot of compartmentalization that goes on. There may be upwards of 6 million people working in intelligence in the US now or even more, but I am skeptical that the majority have a clear view of what’s going on. Wahlberg might know it was fake, but I think it’s plausible that he might not.
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Patrick said:
MM has shown us that just looking at what Wikipedia has to say can be extremely interesting. Wahlberg’s entry gives us this: “…At 16, Wahlberg approached a middle-aged Vietnamese man named Thanh Lam on the street, and using a large wooden stick, bashed him over the head until he was knocked unconscious…”… That same day, Wahlberg also attacked a second Vietnamese man named Hoa “Johnny” Trinh, sucker punching him in the eye.”
“For these crimes, Wahlberg was charged with attempted murder, pleaded guilty to assault, and was sentenced to two years in Suffolk County Deer Island House of Correction. He ultimately served only 45 days of his sentence…”
So, 45 days. Could and does happen, I guess. Middle to lower-middle class kid attacks two people in a day in separate incidents and gets 45 days. Mom was a bank clerk and a nurse’s aide and pop was a delivery driver.
“…In another incident, then 21-year-old Wahlberg fractured the jaw of a neighbor in an unprovoked attack.[19] Court documents state that in 1992, Wahlberg “without provocation or cause, viciously and repeatedly kicked” a man named Robert D. Crehan in the face and jaw while another man named Derek McCall held Crehan down on the ground…”
Wiki doesn’t tell us what terrible consequences Wahlberg suffered for this act but I don’t really care, because Wiki lets Wahlberg explain that it’s all cool now, he’s a good guy and “… it wasn’t until I really started doing good and doing right by other people, as well as myself, that I really started to feel that guilt go away. So I don’t have a problem going to sleep at night. I feel good when I wake up in the morning…”
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cancelled said:
I’m coming to an uncomfortable suspicion that the Internet has been the ultimate trap for mankind. It was the fatal net. The final annihilation of any possibility of escape from the non fictional 1984 conspiracy. Now we’re all caught in a spider web, a world-wide web. Yes, of course, it has had its benefits …. But the price has been very high.
People will say, it’s the Internet that’s allowed Miles e g to make all his revelations; and to share them. And of course that’s true. But it’s also come too late. It’s
Ike a prisoner reading an imprisonment avoidance manual from his cell on how he could have avoided ending up there, for life, with no hope of release, ever.
Do you really need it? Do I? Is it avoidable? Can life go on without it? What would happen if everybody just switched if off, and went on with their lives without using it, ever again?
Well, let’s see: one would be isolated from any news or information, aside from libraries. That’s doable, for me. One would have to bank pay their bills with checks, or in person. That’s doable, for me. One would have to visit friends and family in person, or by letter; that’s doable. One would have to go to the doctor, dentist, vet to make an appoint,net. That’s doable. One would have to shop in local stores, and restrict oneself to what they had on offer; that’s doable, but far from ideal ….
Okay, so that was an interesting fantasy….
What made me consider how the world-wide web has been a trap was from looking through the 2018 Bilderberg info on their official website, as well as scanning through a published report from 1985 that came up online. To cut to the chase, the Internet has worked both ways.
Yes, the Internet gives us information we never had access to — at least not so easily; but the reverse is also true: it has given (((them))) information — but of a different kind. The information we want is facts and knowledge; the information they want is intelligence information. Information they use for engineering and propaganda and profiling and surveillance. You will see how prominent these agendas are, how many are involved in AI, if you scrutinize the attendees at the recent Bilderberg meeting, and what many of those individuals do. They call it artificial intelligence, but from these websites it looks like it’s really cyber intelligence.
Not to mention of course that the facts and information we get is often mis-information or mis-direction: it isn’t even true!
Has the Internet been the last nail in the coffin of freedom? A sort of humanity’s Waterloo?
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Jared Magneson said:
I had a short conversation in emails with Alan Ackley, but can’t find where it started from on this forum now, so I’ll post the relevant excerpt (with his permission of course) here since it ties in to the Internet stuff Cancelled is talking about. Computers are of course amazing tools but have, since 9/11, become a secondary method of intelligence spying (second to phones, which are also in the scope of “computers” these days):
(Alan Ackley)
“The rumors that Israeli intelligence has hardwired a backdoor into all the i7 processors has me a bit bothered. I like the power and speed but don’t know where to look next to have a processor that has not been pre-compromised. Now I hear AMD CPUs are probably also flawed in a similar way. I suppose any large manufacturing operation can be infiltrated by intelligence agencies.
“I rather expect the internet wars to intensify later this year with a huge theft of almost everyone’s cash. Most banks are using these same CPUs.”
I hadn’t read or heard that Israeli intelligence might be behind the recently publicized back doors (Meltdown and Spectre, etc.) but since they primarily affected Intel chips, we already knew we were dealing with intelligence agencies. Intel isn’t name Intel for some fun snarky reason. Just like Apple, they’re a branch of spookery from the ground up. Yes, they are real chips, and they do everything they’re said to do, but just like our “smart” phones the tech isn’t sold to us because it’s helpful – that’s just a side effect, a marketing tactic. It’s sold to us because it gives them information and “windows” into our worlds. It helps them control us.
AMD chips are now superior again, for the first time in over a decade, but for the most part their market share has been vastly smaller than their only rival. So much like Windows Phones, you won’t find as many exploits involved because the product isn’t as prolific. It doesn’t mean AMD is clean though – there’s tons of evidence that both crews not only work together, but also swap technicians readily and consistently. Intel is even bolting on an AMD “Vega” graphics chip onto some of their recent CPUs, which would seem to go against the marketing hype that they are competing companies. Yes, I prefer AMD and never buy Intel chips, but that’s only because they offer more bang for the buck and always have.
So when you “suppose any large manufacturing operation can be infiltrated by intelligence agencies.” I believe you’re not going far enough, Alan. Not “can be”, I think it should be “has been”, as a certainty. Especially in these techy areas where massive amounts of money and electricity are involved – remember, these chips still operate on the false premise that the electron is the fundamental quanta of electricity, instead of the photon. They’re wildly inefficient, almost laughably so. Every stray infrared photon is proof that their premise is false, all the heat these CPUs produce is wasted energy that should have been used for calculations (i.e., a photon transistor, not an electron transistor). So they serve another purpose of revenue generation from the electricity companies, which of course are owned by the banksters.
The internet itself across the board can be seen as a similar enterprise – make the people as dependent as possible on the shoddy, inefficient, expensive infrastructure the banksters have given us. It’s not just an intelligence game, it’s a money one too.
As for theft of cash via the internet, we have just seen billions stolen from various markets in the form of crypto-currencies. Just yesterday there was another multi-million dollar theft from South Korean bitcoins (I can’t recall which one, there are so many now). It’s happening constantly. It’s even less secure than digital bank money.
While it wouldn’t surprise me if there was a large heist of digital currency, they can only take so much without crashing their own system – and the real thieves aren’t hackers, they are the governments and the banks that own them. They’re already robbing everyone blind. In order to keep doing so, they need their money train to keep running, and they won’t allow anyone lower down to really compete.
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Alan Ackley said:
video: 2 & 1/2 minutes on the back door in the CPU chips and how it got there:
a longer video (37 min)
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Jared Magneson said:
Color me more than skeptical, here. ARCs aren’t new or really secret at all, and these videos seem like misdirection to me – not just in content, but in form.
From the Wiki:
“ARC (Argonaut RISC Core) embedded processors are a family of 32-bit CPUs originally designed by ARC International. They are widely used in SoC devices for storage, home, mobile, automotive, and Internet of Things applications. ARC processors have been licensed by more than 200 organizations and are shipped in more than 1.5 billion products per year.”
An American company named Synopsis® manufactures them, and the Argonaut originally came from gaming devices (the Super Nintento ran on one). So we don’t have any direct ties to Israel yet – until we get to this part:
“At the start of 1996, the General Manager of Argonaut, John Edelson, started reducing ATL projects such as BRender and motion capture and investing in the development of the ARC concept. In 1997, following investment by Apax Partners, ATL became ARC International and totally independent from Argonaut Games. Prior to their initial public offering on the London Stock Exchange, underwritten by Goldman Sachs and five other investment banks…”
Goldman Sachs underwriting the company. So that’s spooky, of course, but so far the only red flag I could find.
What I could NOT find was any outside confirmation that ARCs are used on Intel or AMD CPUs. And it sounds very fishy – in that first video they keep zooming in to some unspecified location on a very old Intel “design” shape, but never locate, isolate, or photograph the alleged ARC processor.
From a design perspective, where would it fit? If it’s so tiny nobody can find it, how is it processing much of anything? The CPU cores themselves aren’t small, relative to the size of the chip. The transistors are, sure, but a separate processor of any kind would need its own transistors, its own I/O system, it’s own memory L1-L3 cache, etc.. We see nothing of the sort on these processor dies, the AMD ones I’ve studied very extensively either. Only one chip of their might have space for such a separate system, the ThreadRipper 1950x with its empty die slot (which is now filled with the new 2990X 32-core/64-thread behemoth).
So while I appreciate the possibility, I would need some visual confirmation. The ARC chips I can find aren’t anything special, and are nowhere near as powerful as any consumer CPU or GPU on the market. They may not need much processing power to relay information, but they’d still need SOME, and definitely a separate I/O and cache setup.
It seems hoaxy to me. I’m open to being wrong, but it seems unnecessary for another processor to relay information, when they already have open access to the real CPU anyway, to a great extent.
Also, this ARC line of thinking doesn’t have anything to do with Meltdown or Spectre or those types of back doors, which are verifiable and real. I ain’t hatin’, Alan. Just my two cents.
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Alan Ackley said:
Jared, I still haven’t found the video I saw a few weeks ago that was clearer than these. It discussed a tiny x86 type processor running Minix embedded as the Intel Management Engine.
I was looking at some guys at System76, a maker of Linux laptops that appear to have at least disabled the IME processor. It appears to be possible to purchase a system that has this vulnerability patched.
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Jake Taylor said:
I found this:
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/11/07/1041236/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system
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Jared Magneson said:
The name of the company tells us everything we need to know about them and their products.
AMD isn’t much better, but they are in fact much better. If I’m gonna get spied on at least let me do it for 1/3 the price, and render my CGI shit faster too. 😉
Gah, that makes me sound like those normies who cry for more taxes.
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Jared Magneson said:
I’m certainly not saying that our devices are secure – they’re wide open despite claims otherwise. I just think that whole “ARC processor” and any connection to Israel as a government entity are misguided, even spooky in nature. A “tiny x86 processor” could simply be one single core and much smaller and weaker than the rest of the CPU, but it still would have to physically exist and take up volume. And our processors are already quite tiny – 12 nanometers is pretty small, and the next jump to 10 and 7 is already being build in fabrication plants.
It’s totally possible but again, I’d need more evidence beyond what we’ve discussed and uncovered about Intel’s Management Engine. A management engine exists on every CPU or GPU. Intel seems to be the one selling its customers out the hardest, but I don’t believe a separate chip is necessary for this and haven’t seen one on any of the chip dies I’ve studied. I’m still open to evidence. I just don’t think Intel as a company would NEED to use a separate device commandeered by another country, since the entire device is already commandeered by The Powers That Be.
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Alan Ackley said:
All the giant companies such Microsoft, Apple, Intel, etc appear to be vulnerable to compromise by intel agencies. I see no solution other than going full on open source. I suppose even open source projects might be infiltrated though. In the current environment only the most skilled are going to have a full set of defenses in the “hack war”. I am liking the System76 approach to “open source hardware”.
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Jared Magneson said:
I like them too, though they wouldn’t work for my work and don’t offer any AMD chips that I’ve seen. Still, I was born in ’76 and that silly, dry-humor movie “Space Station 76” was pretty awesome, and I’m kind of a fan of the number. Keep me posted if you try one of their laptops, on how it goes making such a switch to a full open-source system!
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Russell Taylor said:
Alan, wouldn’t the ARC processor simply be used as an access gate into the computer? It wouldn’t need to be a stand alone unit of any particular power, it’s just a back door. And very easily hidden… >> https://engt.co/2GHS1CE <<
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Alan Ackley said:
Yes the IME is just a tiny processor embedded inside the CPU chip aside from the main processor cores also on the same chip, Maybe an X86 or ARC… It, or something similar is already embedded in most recent CPU chips. That is why it is referred to as a “hardware backdoor”. It is incorporated into the hardware and so might be disabled but cannot be removed.
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Jake Taylor said:
http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2017/08/disabling-intel-me.html
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Jared Magneson said:
Jesus. So no matter what, they’ve got us by the balls on that front.
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Nick W said:
Purism is another Linux laptop maker that is more “open source” than System76. Purism is also working on a phone with hardware kill switches to turn off the baseband, camera, microphone, wifi, and Bluetooth. The difference between System76 and Purism is Purism is aiming to provide more privacy and security.
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Jared Magneson said:
Yes, those phones seem pretty cool! But alas, for the hardware in their laptops…
“Fifth Generation Intel Core M Processor”
So they’re no more secure than any other Intel device. 😦
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Jared Magneson said:
Also “Fifth generation” puts them three gens behind, so from a power user perspective they aren’t worth that kind of money. Should be 1/2 the price they’re asking for ’em.
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Ezra Sandberg said:
Josh, thank you for that JTRIG link. I will thoroughly study it from here on out. What are your thoughts on Glenn Greenwald, Snowden, and NSA leaks? Were NSA leaks an op by one agency to embarrass another? Or is Snowden the real McCoy? Just after a quick glance at JTRIG ops manual. Under one heading about advertising, the mantra is “BUY, OWN, EARN.” If that doesn’t sum up the underlying message of TV (and all media) advertising for the last 50 years, then nothing will.
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Josh said:
No chance Snowden is the real McCoy. Was it an inter-agency or inter-family squabble? Possibly. But it might just be your typical limited hangout. Blow the whistle on some things, get people talking about it, thinking that’s as bad as it gets. One of the things that Mark Tokarski used to say that I thought had merit was that the government doesn’t need that level of surveillance. The vast majority of the population are basically like zombies who pose no threat whatsoever. He thought it was possibly an empty brag. I wouldn’t go that far. I actually do think they have the data gathering capabilities Snowden revealed, probably even more than what he revealed. But I agree that it mostly goes unused (except perhaps by companies who wish to use the information to get us to buy more stuff). But I think it could be used if needed, and I suppose it’s possible that at some point they’re going to drop the hammer and turn all the world into a police state at which point that kind of surveillance will serve a darker purpose.
Here is an early paper Miles wrote on this topic: http://mileswmathis.com/glenn.pdf
The ‘BUY, OWN, EARN’ thing sounds like one of the subliminal messages in the movie, They Live.
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Jared Magneson said:
Greenwald, Snowden, and Assange are all psy-ops and misdirection. If Snowden was “legit”, how come he didn’t call out Alphabet Corp. (Google’s parent) as the NSA-baby it really is? How come he didn’t call out Apple and Microsoft for being Langley-babies? How come Snowden didn’t spill any of the beans that Miles has, in paper after paper unleashing the Forbidden Knowledge?
Same with Greenwald and Assange. Real whistle-blowers never even make it to the internet – they’re smoked or bought off immediately. Most likely the first but never underestimate the power of a small stash of cash. In some cases that would be even cheaper than just “offing” the person.
And again, real whistle-blowers would blow real whistles. They’d expose real information, not hedge on every topic or pretend the Powers That Be aren’t who they actually are. Those guys are just little bitches posing as whistle-blowers. They’re paid to sour their names officially, since why would they care anyway? It’s what they were hired to do in the first place.
Do you really think you could work for these agencies and escape? Not a chance.
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cancelled said:
It’s time we had a tune ….
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ihatestarwars said:
Cancelled, all I’m getting is ‘This video is unavailble.’ Who is the band and what was the song?
This is a favorite tune of mine by The Prisoners – Mourn my health:
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DF said:
That was cool IHSW , like the Jazz Butcher Conspiracy from 80’s
My fav un-signed band from Cali ,
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Lewis Reid said:
I’ll have that play’d at my funeral, I don’t think Harvester of Sorrow will go down too well.
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