[This is the thread to discuss the current corona virus psy-op.]
From Las Vegas, Pittsburg, Thousand Oaks to Russian Collusion and the Khashoggi assassination, false-flag hoaxes, conspoofacies, fake murders and other manufactured events are running non-stop around the world and around the corner.
A reader wrote in to suggest opening a comment section devoted to discussing current (faked) events. I thought it was a good idea and would provide a place where people could chime in on what’s going on in the news and even offer evidence for why they think the event was faked, hoaxed, manufactured, etc. (or why not). Have at it, unless you think it’s a waste of your time–in which case, don’t!
Laurie said:
If one doesn’t see the writing on the wall with the Musky story….. then, surely they have not been born yet!
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pjj said:
Psyop of the week, shooting in Brooklyn yesterday: https://abc7ny.com/brooklyn-subway-shooting-frank-james-sunset-park-new-york/11743662/
This hits home as I live in the area. Shooter was “62-year-old Frank R. James”. Hmm it’s either 26 or 62.
“Among the calls that came into Crime Stoppers was a person purporting to be the suspect himself.
‘I think you’re looking for me. I’m seeing my picture all over the news and I’ll be around this McDonalds,” the caller reportedly said.”
Shooters nowadays have honor, great!
“gave a height description of the gunman that did not match James’ 6-foot-2 frame” 62 again.
“Mayor Adams appeared on Good Morning America Wednesday and said officials are considering the use of state-of-the-art metal detectors in the city’s subway system moving forward.”
More laws, more convenience in using the subway? Feel free to chime in with other clues.
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pjj said:
more inconvenience*
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Meh said:
Lots and lots of metal detectors sold to the city by the phoenies. Typical op.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
The ATF can trace his gun in a day, but if you want to buy a suppressor they take a year to approve you.
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rolleikin said:
Jesse James had a brother named Frank.
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Gerard Nordskoven said:
“R” Train. Letter 18. 33 shots fired. Anti-white racist never booted from social media for hate speech. Frank & Jesse James were extremely literate, Jesse James was suspected of death-faking, and both were Freemasons as giving “Lion’s Paw” hand jive. Jesse James was suspected of faking death after looting the “The South Will Rise Again” movement not unlike the Knights Templar self-robbing under cover of suppression by client-cousins.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE! MOVE ON!
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pjj said:
Why is “R” train a red flag?
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Francesca said:
18th letter in alphabet.
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pjj said:
@Francesca oh, thank you!
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notabaron said:
33 shots. more? ok.
“broken surveillance cameras”
found his credit card at crime scene
“distinctive orange jacket”
many msm sources report frank himself called the crime stoppers tip line but pd, fbi and atf are all taking credit for solving it while throwing the mta cameras under the bus. but there were probably multiple he was huge and what a huge boon to the citizens for being involved. sherlocks profiling black andre the giant.
so, a shooter in a building across the street from a concert in vegas takes out 61 people !? and this guy at point blank does not kill anyone? why the smoke bomb and consumer grade fire works? cuz nothing happened just smoke and fireworks. not even everyone on the train haddabeinonit.
fishy brand new hoax vid on bitshoot, a day later? why fishy? because it is unconvincing. it shows a bunch of people not really doing anything and the narrator just planting his theory over it. far as i could tell it is sourced from a antisem controp channel.
also when i saw the social media posts it’s so much like spooky batman where they are blackwashing online cults of conspiriwarriorrerrorists pushing tighter online security and user snitching. maybe dc will make a special batman app.
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pjj said:
Some funny videos of Zack, who caught the suspect: https://twitter.com/business/status/1514341991496232965
Looks like he won’t be getting paid because of overacting.
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chandra2021 said:
Or overacting and overeating. Is this hero supposed to be an Iranian hothead? That for once did a good deed on US soil. This Zack (Zach?) person is quite a-typical for an Iranian. And he forgot to praise Allah. I’d give this scene half a star.
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Gerard Nordskoven said:
Same man-boobs as the perp. Just sayin’…Lay off the CHEESE! Concentrates those Bovine Growth Hormones in milk. Just stick with the McDonald’s fries and a Coke. Those cheeseburgers are making estrogenized heifers out of what should be bulls.
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Jared Magneson said:
New science paper up on Mile’s site:
Earth’s Temperature Cycle
Click to access temp.pdf
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davidbehlman said:
I’m gonna play stupid’s advocate and ask how we have the data on that chart going back so far. Can someone summarize where it comes from? Like what assumptions are made to project back so far? It seems like the more recent data is all pretty consistent.
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Jared Magneson said:
By digging, David.
If you read the words at the very top of the paper, in the chart, it will tell you where, how, and who observed this data. But to get you started:
“Abstract. The EPICA (European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica) Dome C drilling in East Antarctica has now been completed to a depth of 3260 m, at only a few meters above bedrock. Here we present the new EDC3 chronology, which is based on the use of 1) a snow accumulation and mechanical flow model, and 2) a set of independent age markers along the core. These are obtained by pattern matching of recorded parameters to either absolutely dated paleoclimatic records, or to insolation variations. We show that this new time scale is in excellent agreement with the Dome Fuji and Vostok ice core time scales back to 100 kyr within 1 kyr. Discrepancies larger than 3 kyr arise during MIS 5.4, 5.5 and 6, which points to anomalies in either snow accumulation or mechanical flow during these time periods. We estimate that EDC3 gives accurate event durations within 20% (2σ) back to MIS11 and accurate absolute ages with a maximum uncertainty of 6 kyr back to 800 kyr.”
https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/3/485/2007/
It doesn’t mean they’re “right”, but this is the data and their theory so far. The cross-referencing from many various parts of the world (Greenland, etc.) gives it a bit more weight of course. Geology isn’t as heavily plundered as many other sciences, but there will still be some nonsense to be found so of course remain skeptical. Some folks don’t even believe in Antarctica – or Greenland – along with satellites, spheres, and pixels and there’s really not much anyone can do about that. Choose your own adventure.
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Graham said:
I noticed that the graphs Miles leads with here have two different scales on the X axis – what I was wondering is, if the scale to the left half were stretched out to the same scale as on the right would it be more obvious that the Holocene wasn’t the only period where we had periods of extended stability. E.g. the region around 190 to 170 k years ago.
If there’s something to that it could suggest that this isn’t the only period when Jupiter was gaining mass if thats the right explanation for stability, or that there is some other explanation – perhaps related to how charge comes from the core as we orbit it.
Just a random thought here, and one I am happy for others to refute, maybe I just didn’t understand the paper fully – which wouldn’t be the first time!
For example I still don’t understand how Miles calculates the possible age of Jupiters moons, but I do know there are a lot of them, so perhaps the other periods of stability less clear from the graph also correlate to a time when other moons were captured, thus supporting his thesis even more.
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davidbehlman said:
Thanks Jared, this was just a hole I didn’t feel like digging myself since I figured someone already dug it. Looks like a lot of assumptions about consistency of snowfalls and that sort of thing.
Speaking of not believing in Antarctica… A very skeptical friend of mine came back from a long trip home believing a bunch of Flat Earth propaganda and it’s killing me she’s not read any Miles yet. Blerg. I keep pointing her to him, but I can’t read his stuff for her.
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Jared Magneson said:
@David: There’s not a lot you can do for the Flerfers, man. Don’t beat yourself up over it? 🙂
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Thanks Jared, another great paper from Miles, which I found very thought provoking. I was surprised how the Greenland temps were so different from those in the the Antarctic. Time to get my thinking-cap on again!
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Jared Magneson said:
I think that the North Pole areas tend to be warmer since it’s an imbalance field, with 2/3 of the indirect sun-charge coming IN at the South Pole but any through charge would be felt at the North, whereas the reverse would mean we’d have half as much through-charge at the South Pole. That is to say, since twice as much charge is MOVING north, we’d have a mechanism for the variance up there? I was just reading his Saturn paper again and that’s my initial take on this question.
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A Spirit said:
Very interesting topics raised in Miles’ Reeve paper. ( http://mileswmathis.com/reeve2.pdf )
The argument from vegetarians that eating animals is immoral has the amusing implication that Nature herself is immoral since she contains the food chain. It is a part of her. It also implies that God/the Gods are immoral because they don’t disallow it. These are logical conclusions from their ideologies that they will never state openly, probably because they fear they will be boo-ed. They may not believe in God(s) but they are (supposedly) in love with Nature and animals. But that’s probably fake. I tend to think that most people secretly (or subconsciously) dislike Nature. The only reason that Nature doesn’t dislike (all of) them back is probably that she can tell that they only dislike a corrupt/fake view-of-nature given to them by their culture. She can tell that they just dislike what-they-think-nature-is, living far away from it in unnatural cities and being “educated” by perverse governors.
Nature is widely misunderstood, perhaps even more so than the Gods. For example Miles writes in the paper this sentence “before Nature decides she has had enough of the ghouls and wipes us all out as a nuisance”. Now, many people would read this as poetic/romantic but completely impossible (and maybe pagan) because she cannot do it (according to them). She cannot feel revulsion for moral/aesthetic reasons and decide to do an action. According to them, these words are meaningless anthropomorphisation of Nature or something. But this a misunderstanding. Since we, human spirits, can feel moral/aesthetic revulsion, why couldn’t SHE feel it? We are HER creation not vice-versa. We are individual spirits and she is some kind of general spirit or something. I would guess that, in a way, she can feel things similar to what we feel. Where did we inherit these instincts from, if not from Nature??
My favorite quote about Nature from the Epistemology of science paper: “She doesn’t like working with assholes.”
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virusmyth666 said:
Vegans have to resort to A LOT of mental gymnastics in order to preserve their emotion-based ideology. And by “mental gymnastics” I mean fallacies. And by ideology, I mean cult.
One of the most interesting examples of mental gymnastics is when I see a vegan
having a cat or dog as a pet. They are obligate carnivorous animals, which puts them into a unavoidable contradiction. If they feed those pets their species-specific diet, which is raw meat, or even meat-based kibble, they are contributing to the slaughter of other animals. On the other hand if they decide to feed them vegan stuff, it’s animal cruelty for denying them the bare minimum to be healthy, slowly killing them in the process. The only way out for them is to fabricate a new reality, like inventing that their dog is not carnivorous, or his cat is “allergic to meat”, or even that “my pet is adopted, so that makes it ok” and bla bla bla.
BTW, feeding them their wrong diet is the main reason we’re seeing lots of cats and dogs with “modern human” diseases like cancer and diabetes. Labradors used to live for 15 years back in the 1950s. Nowadays you’d be lucky to see one pushing to 10.
YT itself is full of monetized channels with people feeding fruit and ice cream to their dogs and after a few years collecting money make a video saying they found out their dog had diabetes. Im sure some veterinarians love the extra revenue. You’d think it was their job to be revolted against it, yet many veterinarians lend their name to impart credibility to vegan kibble as being suitable for dogs and pets. Love for the animals my ass. It’s all about money first and everthing else comes second.
In the end you realize that veganism is not about the animals.
It’s about making them feel better about themselves at best and
boasting their perceived superiority to others at worst.
We cannot generalize though as I know a bunch of vegans that keep it to themselves not bothering others with their choices. It’s the evangelist militant type of vegan that bothers me. The one who wants to change the world forcing his/her change and worldview on everyone else. Jesus will not return as long as still exists a single person on earth yet not converted.
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GkkG said:
That’s a good point regarding vegans with pets. There are a bunch who do have pets and as you say feed them animals or vegan diets.
You can’t generalize however the entire vegan movement just from those bad apples.
Also dogs can be completely healthy on a vegan diet. I’ve got a 10 year old pittbull that’s built like a tank and who hasn’t eaten a single bite of meat. One of the healthiest dog’s you’d ever see.
Militant vegans are for sure annoying, however you need to look at it from their perspective. You mention that they do a lot of “mental gymnastics”, please explain how exactly? Why is it so hard to reach the conclusion that you don’t want to contribute animal slaughter? Doesn’t look like a lot of mental gymnastics to me.
If you think that mass murder of animals is injustice, and is unnecessary violence would you try to educate others as well to change their ways or sit back and watch it happen?
If you are against vegans convincing other to make a change, are you also against people who stand for human rights and try to make a difference by reducing violence? (or I guess those people are also part of a cult)
Someone’s got to stand up for the animals – thus you get the militants. There are bad apples on both sides.
Funnily enough I have way more people trying to convince me to eat meat, than I had vegan friends and acquaintances trying to get me to go vegan. At every social outing there is always some retard trying to judge non-meat options and how by choosing them I will be weak, giving me a lecture on nutrition while looking like they never stepped a foot in the gym.
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virusmyth666 said:
You can’t generalize however the entire vegan movement just from those bad
apples.
Yes, I made it pretty clear at the end that we cannot generalize, yet you point it out like I never said it and even use this assumption as what seems to be a counter argument, even though you are just repeating what I’ve said.
You have just demonstrated such mental gymnastics when you say:
Also dogs can be completely healthy on a vegan diet. I’ve got a 10 year old pittbull
that’s built like a tank and who hasn’t eaten a single bite of meat. One of the
healthiest dog’s you’d ever see.
So you made a completely broad generalization based only on your personal anectodal evidence. How many dogs and cats are unhealthy because of vegan diets?
What about long term observation? What happen with say 3 or 4 generations of dogs fed that diet? Will they still be healthy? How can you say?
Francis Pottenger disagrees…
Most people including non-vegans dont want to “contribute” to animal “slaughter”.
But such is life. Life feeds on life.
Vegans also kill a lot of life. Plants are living beings last time I’ve checked.
Oh, but they are not “sentient” beings… I see… So we are now supposed to
force on all the vegetable kingdom a completely zoocentric definition and
view of life and of what consists “suffering”?
so convenient…
Why should vegans’ criteria for what qualifies as “suffering” should be regarded
as superior to any other criteria ?
I wonder what plants would say if one suggests that they dont suffer when being
deprived of water and nutrients, light, air, or being damaged by pests, wind, hail etc.
Lucky for us that vegetables cant talk back…
Also there are a lot of animals being killed in agriculture in order to raise vegan’s favorite foods, from insects being killed by pesticides, to rodents being cut up to pieces by harvest combines.
Some people will say that we dont need to kill animals for food because there is an “alternative” which is plant based diet. But that is just wrong.
Veganism is just an invention that started a couple hundred years ago give or take.
It was never part of our evolutionary past.
You can be somewhat healthy on a vegan diet for so long until problems arise. Also, some people seem to tolerate a vegan diet for longer than other people.
The fact is that If veganism was a viable long term (multi-generational) healthy diet then there would be hundreds of historical examples of broad human populations using such diet, since agriculture and gathering stuff is normally easier and less risky than hunting. Yet, there are no such evidence, according to anthropological records.
Also, multiple fossil evidence around the world indicates that populations that were strictly carnivore but proceeded to include lots of vegetables and grains in their diets started to develop loads of problems, from bone and teeth mal formation to arterosclerosis. Ancient populations that made heavy use of carbohydrates (grains) with the advent of agriculture developed many of our “modern” diseases, diabetes being one of them, since the pharaohs, at least…
Plus no one likes to treat animals with cruelty. Cruelty implies feeling pleasure upon causing or witnessing suffering, which I doubt most animal farmers feel.
Those that do wont have me as a customer. Simple.
Plus, one doesnt have to be vegan to be against cruelty.
Im sure most farmers dont want to be cruel to the animals they raise.
If some of them happen to be cruel, that’s just wrong. I think we are all on the same boat here, but that is no reason to outlaw meat consumption as many militants are trying to push more and more with the help of all the usual suspects like politicians, the media, actors and influencers.
If there is cruelty, let’s fight against cruelty not against meat consumption.
It is possible to kill animals without cruelty and without suffering.
You say
someone has to stand up for the animals
We can stand up to them, by not purchasing animals that are raised like
lifeless commodity. It is possible to conciliate both things since there are
a lot of farmers who raise their cattle and give them a much better life
than what they would find in nature.
Plus, each creature raised for human consumption is an extra animal that
is brought to life an in theory has the opportunity (if well raised) to have a much
better life that its wild counterparts. They have constant supply of food and water,
are free of pests, suffer much less heat and cold stress, are free from predators, while
in the wild that face all of that and have in most cases a gruesome death.
All of that is overlooked by vegans, which focus only on the worse case scenarios,
which has its value as far as raising awareness about the problem of abusive farmers, but which is by no means reason enough to stop eating the most nutritious and nutrient dense species-specific food for humans: MEAT
You can question this fact as much as you can quoting your agro-sponsored favorite studies, but our evolutionary past doesnt lie. You can even disregard completely the efforts of veterinarians like Dr. Pottenger which proved beyond shadown of a doubt that cats and dogs are strictly carnivorous and when subject to a diet of anything else than raw meat will develop irreversible problems down the line which are passed and intensified generation after generation until no longer able to reproduce, the evolotionary equivalent of exctinction.
You know what is cruel? Subjecting dogs and cats to vegan diets and then claiming
my dog is the healthiest you’d ever see
If you really love your pets the first thing in order of business is to raise them on their species-specific diet. Anything else just wont do, no matter whatever your motivation for having a pet tells you is “right”.
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Stephen said:
@virusmyth666 Excellent points.
I was a vegetarian (never vegan) for about 6 years, mostly since I bought in to the propaganda about grams of protein per land use. I’ve also seen my parents unintentionally abuse their dogs and cats by feeding them “people food” instead of the carnivore diet they require. They subsequently had all kinds of inflammatory issues like lumps all over their bodies, constant sneezing with red eyes and runny noses, etc.
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iya said:
I see veganism as possibly another project designed to push the meat-less synthetic ag biotech molecular vision of life agenda forward. Push it in the universities, get the young fervent about it.
Some regenerative farmers know the value of quality meat in ones diet & treat their animals accordingly. Why do people think the authorities do everything they can to pretty much outlaw raw dairy products for instance, or demand animals be injected with so called vaccines?
Every culture has utilized some type of animal product in their diets, be it muscle, organ meats, fermented & cultured milk, yoghurt & cheese products, to name just a few.
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virusmyth666 said:
Absolutely. I subscribe to the project idea as well.
We have religion, politics, health and the “artistic” community, all with their paws dirty,
showing where they want to lead us. Think Soylent Green.
Evidence is the involvement of 7th day adventists in pushing vegetarianism + Kellogg famility pushing cereal stuff to curb people’s libido at the turn of the century, combined with huge agro interestests since at least the 50s demonizing animal saturated fat and substituting vegetable oils and margerine (crisco) which sky rocketed heart disease figures, all with the support of cardiologist associations, I wonder why…
Add to this the the current participation of many actors, musicians and polititians (Al Gore) propping up veganism. We have uncle Bill pushing his lab meat etc etc. The narrative purposefully weaved to blame climate change and pandemics on meat consumption, with both news and sports media gladly supporting it.
It all reeks of a coordinated effort for sure.
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suntzufighting said:
Let’s play doctor.
Who do you think of once you’ve read this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome
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Jared Magneson said:
RUDE.
At no point has anyone insinuated a genetic anomaly and I for one found it a little below the belt.
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rolleikin said:
It’s Jared
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pjj said:
Really? The guy is glowing in the pic
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Jared Magneson said:
Try clicking or hovering over the image. We’ve been using it for awhile, now. 🙂
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Thomas said:
Actually many with this kind of syndrome, some became trans-genders due to the effect of the extra X chromosome.
Tom Cruise, Lili Elbe, Jamie Lee Curtis, Janet Mock, Lauren Foster, Caroline Cossey,
George Washington, Brooke Moore, Caster Semenya, Renee Richards, Adele Markham and perhaps King Tutankhamun.
So, Suntzufighting, who was you thinking of?
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suntzufighting said:
I was only thinking of Billie Gates. Note it is Billie, not Billy.
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Thomas said:
Here is some pure Russian XX chromosome.
” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfzIDdHql1s”
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBfffJIAwsg”
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Francesca said:
Aha! So that’s what it is with Tom Cruise. At the time, that hoop shooting scene when filmed from behind made me wonder about his wide hips and small shoulders. But he’s not that tall with 1.72 m (for an American guy).
Ditto Frenkie de Jong, Barca’s #21. Small shoulders and wide hips. And he doesn’t look like a body builder like most male footie players nowadays. Though he’s not tall either with 1.8 m (for a Dutch guy).
So the double X chromosome does that, eh? Never knew! Mystery solved, except for the tallness criterium. Thanks @ sunzufighting and Thomas.
Wait a minute … Thomas, is Semenya an XXY-guy or an XYY woman? Still some mystery left, hehe.
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Thomas said:
She is an XX with a Y on high testosterone. Where the Y came from must be some kind of birth defect, or like a hermaphrodites.
https://theconversation.com/ten-ethical-flaws-in-the-caster-semenya-decision-on-intersex-in-sport-116448
Here is some good info/pictures, but skip the last 30% alien nonsense.
https://ugetube.com/watch/age-of-deceit-the-transagenda-breeding-program-full-version_FHjLHpb4oUPMQnh.html
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Francesca said:
Ok, after quicky biology class, XX = female and XY = men, and XXY = men like Frenkie De Jong and Tom Cruise … who are no taller than XY men.
But Semenya (1.78 m) and Jamie Lee Curtis (1.70 m) ARE tall for a female in their countries of origin (resp. ZAF and USA), which would make the XYY men label fitting according to:
https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/xyy-syndrome/
XYY syndrome is a rare chromosomal disorder that affects males. It is caused by the presence of an extra Y chromosome. Males normally have one X and one Y chromosome. However, individuals with this syndrome have one X and two Y chromosomes. Affected individuals are usually very tall. Many experience severe acne during adolescence. Additional symptoms may include learning disabilities and behavioral problems such as impulsivity. Intelligence is usually in the normal range, although IQ is on average 10-15 points lower than siblings.
Mystery solved after all.
Quite fascinating stuff though, so I will be pondering/studying this topic some more.
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suntzufighting said:
I never noticed that about Mapother. I did notice Denzelle has the wide hips/narrow shoulders thing.
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Francesca said:
@ suntzufighting Who are Mapother and Denzelle?
And what about these two? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp4YC–AtlE
Am asking as you appear quite experienced on the visual aspects of chromosomal disorders.
I don’t care much for the video, though the ending is funny, have been enjoying the remix though.
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Francesca said:
Right, then. Not only men can have a chromosomal disorder.
Women can have only one X, making them shorter than average and unable to reproduce + other symptoms (Turner syndrome)..
Women can also have XXX (triple X syndrome), making them taller than average + other symptoms..
And finally, women can be XY (hermaphrodite syndrome), being neither female nor male, or both. Is this what’s referred to as binary nowadays?
Remarkably, all M/V chromosomal disorders are said to be 1 in 1000. And the cause is random/natural (A)… making me wonder: why did Nature/God make it so? Ditto on Down Syndrome, which is also a chromosomal disorder.
However, one article mentioned chromosomal disorders could be caused by environmental factors also (B). Hmm, would be quite the PN thing to study (A) so as to create (B) and then to take it from there towards transsexuality. After all, they do enjoy making bad things worse.
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Lewis reid said:
@Down Syndrome
I wouldn’t surprise one jot if vaccines caused Down’s Syndrome, even the Elephant Man’s condition. It’s 300 years since vaccines were first used.
This bloke developed a growth on his arm not unlike the Elephant Man’s:
‘Benjamin F. Olevine of Altoona, Pennsylvania, was vaccinated when in good health. Two months later a sarcomatous (tumorous) growth began to develop where the vaccination sore had not healed. The growth reached enormous proportions, as may be seen from the photograph, and caused intense pain and untold suffering, not, only in the arm but throughout the entire body. No cure was possible and his misery was relieved only by death.’
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html#FOUR%20POISONS%20IN%20WHITE%20BREAD
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Graham said:
I think in the early days and certainly circa Pasteur’s era they used horse serum as the medium for whatever shit they’d decided could help people (not). Its no wonder those cultures mutated in foreign bodies (us).
Of course things are much safer now with just the aluminium, mercury, nano carbons, embryonic cells, monkey blood and engineered proteins, along with undocumented content and laboratory or manufacturing waste products all at some point having been implicated in cancer, autism, dementia et al.
We are so lucky to be alive in the modern age, I’d hate to have to rely on the natural systems which had kept us alive for millions of years beforehand.
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Francesca said:
@ Lewis reid That’s a horribly sad story. I remember reading the whale.to website regularly until no more updates were added. Would you happen to know what happened there?
You likely have a point with vaccines causing Down Syndrome, and possibly other chromosome disorders as well.
I was also thinking: if males are XY, then how can XY also indicate hermaphrodite women? Right before, I had concluded that as long as there’s at least one Y involved, the individual is male. Hence, something here doesn’t add up.
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Lewis Reid said:
@Whale
Sorry Francesca, call me Ishmael but I only discovered the Whale site late via The Poisoned Needle book, which is still relevant to-day.
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Francesca said:
@ Lewis Reid Thanks for mentioning this book. What a wealth of information!
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Francesca said:
@ Thomas Thanks for the links.Tried to read the first link, but it hurt my head too much and CAS is a farce anyway seeing their footie fair play rulings for rich/big clubs vs tiny/poor clubs.
And frankly, I’m too scared to watch the second link.
I reckon in sports we simply need a new category, sort of like the Paralympics, as it’s not fair to ban any sports folks from competing just because nature gave them more or less of certain chromosomes. The main issue being that it has to be a fair competition.
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drew steele said:
Sometimes it is a big world, other times small. I grew up about 20 miles from Altoona but never heard about Olevine’s saga until reading about it here.
The last time i read at Whale.to, i saw a comment from John, the Operator, that he had difficulty updating new content due to needing funds for a new computer.
Another odd twist that closes a circle of sorts, about 15 years ago i was frequenting a web site run by Don Croft, who posted a general recommendation to visit a web site milesmathis.com. A few years prior, i had been visiting a (now defunct) website forum – cloudbusters.com – where i first met / chatted with John.
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Francesca said:
Thanks for the info @ drew steele. Appreciate it. Hopefully, John got his funding and new pc! I too remember Don Croft and the cloudbusters site. It’s where I got my first cs maker *s.
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Francesca said:
First Russian young lady singing: way neat song and voice!
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Francesca said:
If you like that kind of music/singing, you might just like this one too. Made me weep the first time I heard it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16-N49KZgbw
Though that was a much better quality video.
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miles mathis said:
Where is the evidence Cruise has an extra chromosome?
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Francesca said:
Good question @ miles mathis. I reckon here’s where Thomas copied his list: https://www.std-gov.org/blog/famous-people-with-klinefelter-syndrome/
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Thomas said:
I am in the thinking box now, not sure how to answer you.
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virusmyth666 said:
It’s really quite revealing how they make zero effort trying to impart any degree of charisma and pleasantness to uncle Bill as well as other characters like
Klaus “eat-ze-bugs” Schwab, “almost” as if they were meant to be sold as villains…
wink wink
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James Larkin said:
Like Miles said in his paper on Gates, he has all the charisma of a tuna fish sandwich left out in the rain. ( BILL GATES: JEWISH ARISTOCRAT).
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
And as Miles says about Abbie Hoffman, we’re meant to loath him.
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rsack said:
That is hilarious.
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Lewis Reid said:
New update to ‘A general update’ linking Axl Rose to Bob Dylan way down on Highway 61, approximately:
Click to access genup.pdf
My tears are like the quiet drift
Of petals from some magic rose;
And all my grief flows from the rift
Of unremembered skies and snows.
Dylan Thomas
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Philip Cox said:
Yesterday was the anniversary of the Titanic, so Infowars ran a story with the headline and video entitled Titanic Or Olympic? Insurance Fraud Scheme Exposed, but makes sure to remind you in the opening sentence that the ship really did sink. Uh huh.
Fast forward to this week and the Moskva, who’s story is already falling apart. Seems like the MIC is using this ‘war’ as an excuse to use up old munitions and equipment. From wiki:
“Upon return from her deployment in January 2016, Moskva was to undergo a refit and upgrade but due to lack of funds her future remained uncertain as of July 2018.[35] [36]”
Also
“In February 2020, Russian news agency TASS reported that a very “rare and important” Christian relic purported to be a part of the True Cross on which Jesus was crucified was to be kept in Moskva’s chapel.[38][39]”
Also she has a sister ship called the Varyag. Did they really pull another Titanic on the same week anniversary of the Titanic?
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Philip Cox said:
I should clarify. If they “pulled a Titanic“, then they didn’t sink anything. Conveniently, a dozen western news agencies toured the ship back in 2015, and the ship was also used on the phony attack on Snake Island.
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Greg said:
Always enjoy when Miles makes the rock musicians bite the dust. I worked with a few older folks from Lafayette and they confirmed “Axl” William lived there and had a reputation as a trouble maker. But don’t buy the line he just packed up and left for LA. I assume he already had relatives or family there. Plus he was a manager of Tower records on Sunset, seems that job would goto someone with more education and experience. If you read the band bio’s and interviews, it really does lead to think the band somehow payed their dues and just got lucky. And looking at all the names involved surely one can see the behind the scenes as being very kosher.
“It is extravagantly unConstitutional, since legislative and judicial
authority are reserved for those two branches of government and may not be arrogated by any privatebodies.”
It really seems our entire system is corrupted.
Miles Mathis for President….
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Jared Magneson said:
It always has been corrupted.
And PRESIDENT? Another phony leadership position that never meant anything at all? Insulting. 😉
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Logan said:
“The Military situation in Ukraine” by “Jacques Baud”,
worth checking out.
Apparently J.B. is a retired Swiss Military Intelligence officer and a “highly placed, major participant in NATO training operations in Ukraine” acc. to Oliver Stone (OKOK!) who references a “translation” from the French here
04/02/2022:
https://www.sott.net/article/466340-Retired-Swiss-Military-Intelligence-Officer-Is-it-Possible-to-Actually-Know-What-Has-Been-And-is-Going-on-in-Ukraine
and a “literal translation” (whatever that means) here (04/01/2022:
https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/?utm_source=sendfox&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the-postil-april-newsletter
Originals here in French
03/16/2022
https://cf2r.org/documentation/la-situation-militaire-en-ukraine/
03/25/2022
https://cf2r.org/documentation/le-point-sur-la-situation-militaire-en-ukraine-au-25-mars-2022/
I read the “Postil” one through and it sounds plausible at leaat from when I used to follow the situiaiton back in 2014-19 in both Western and Russian “news sources”. But who knows? It could just be a another stratum of half-truths or lies.
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Jared Magneson said:
I think it’s a pretty fair summary, really. Can we spot any lies or spin? It doesn’t seem very spinny, upon my first read.
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suntzufighting said:
So there is a real war going on? Because a Colonel in intelligence tells us so?
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Jared Magneson said:
Well nobody TOLD us anything at all. Pixels aren’t real, remember? They’re JUST CGI.
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suntzufighting said:
I want to see those credit cards get a workout.
What you waitin for?
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Philip Cox said:
Thanks, I needed a laugh today. As always, top notch trolling from Langley.
‘Our air is filled with explosions that destroy my country and kill my friends, so buy me fighter jet so I can continue filling air with explosions and kill friends’
At about 0:55, you can see his visor reflection of the airfield behind the camera, showing some intact planes and no debris. Busted.
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Graham said:
Haha good spot Philip.
And besides, I wouldn’t buy anyone a jet if that’s how they look after them !
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suntzufighting said:
“Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mig 29, my fiends all fly Sukkhois, I have to make amends”
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drew steele said:
If you have unabated tax & spend re presentation, you don’t need no stinking credit cards. Just consult the USTreasury expenditures pie graph attached to the instructions for filing income taxes, then imagine a little patriotic flag waving wu wu.
Pete Helmes: What are the chances of war between them?
Bob Nixon: Very good sir. Our spare parts replacement contracts could be very lucrative.
Pete Helmes: Who trains their flight personnel?
Max Landsberger: Well, as near as we can assess it… well… they don’t actually fly the planes. They sort of roll them down hills… crashing them into each other.
Scott Dantley: Personally, I think that it’s a shameful waste of incredible kill power.
Pete Helmes: Make the deal.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091183/quotes/?ref_=tt_trv_qu
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waalko said:
https://www.martinvrijland.nl/en/news-analyses/de-geschiedenis-van-ons-universum-de-7000-jaar-cyclus-en-de-eindtijd-nabij/
The history of our universe, the 7000 year cycle and the end times are near.
What are your thoughts?
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Philip Cox said:
Obvious controlled opposition is obvious. Move on.
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Francesca said:
What Philip Cox said.
Also I think the article is good practice material for people who are new at cutting through the fog by disecting it and cutting to pieces the various foggy parts. For their convenience the article is presented in German, French, Portuguese, and Spanish as well.
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rolleikin said:
Has the “Birds Aren’t Real” nonsense been discussed here? I don’t recall seeing mention of it but I don’t read everything.
Anyway, it appears to be another Flat Earth-type project to make “conspiracy theorists” look nuts.
But, then again it’s probably too stupid to be worth mentioning. 🙂
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Jared Magneson said:
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Kieran said:
I thought it was a joke, like the moon being made from cheese. I haven’t seen anyone put it forward seriously. I think it’s pretty funny, if you separate it from all the stuff we are actually lied to about. I wouldn’t put it in the same class as flat earth and reptilians, which are actually promoted as true by controlled opposition, and are associated with conspiracy in the mainstream consciousness.
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Jared Magneson said:
This is how divorced some of these people are from reality. A Facebook joke 3 years old becomes “Current Events” when people are grasping at relevance-straws, with no sense of humor, sarcasm, or irony, and absolutely no social life or skills.
“SATELLITES AREN’T REAL.” was your mantra, and you cannot see the irony in you attacking a meme three years later on the same basis. Is there anything you CAN gauge accurately? One single thing would be incredible, at this point.
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rolleikin said:
“Is there anything you CAN gauge accurately?”
Yes. For starters, I can gauge you as a horse’s ass.
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Michael Deloatch said:
Anagram fodder:
Birds Aren’t Real =>
Brains ‘R’ Altered
Ranter’s drab lie
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Davey said:
It looks like this cute story was regurgitated in the left wing echo chamber over the weekend. I was texted a link to a Guardian article by one if my Madcow-hypnotised adversaries on the 16th. He was “so impressed” by the seventeen year old originators’ cleverness. The story is five years old. Nothing suspicious about a well timed hoax initiated by a minor about whom we can learn nothing. A hoax that simultaneously blackwashes Christian homeschoolers and conspiracy theorists. Pushed by all the MSM. Yup. Completely organic.
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AYV said:
Robert Malone’s Wife calls Bill Gates her “influencer”.: https://americanyellowvest.wpcomstaging.com/2022/04/16/bill-gates-the-malone-influencer/
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Quiz time. What is the following quote taken from?
“Along the way I delve into a search of self-realization that begins to reveal and unravel itself around me. It is the itch that drives my feet forward – one after the other. Forward I go, or is it backwards? To the left? I might be going right. Or the ‘right way.’ With each step, the ground reveals itself to me while the sky begins to gleam in its own light. I decide that I exist here in a realm of consciousness, dictated by the clues given to surround me.”
Is it from
A.) A new postmodern novel
B.) A 1960s description of a psychedelic drug experience
C.) A satire on contemporary University education
D.) A publication put out by the undergraduate students of a major school of architecture
E.) A team of writers from sub-level 33 beneath Langley
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Tiny Peep said:
It’s really intuitive of you to include that “D” option, Dent. The things we were “taught” at a major, accredited Faculty of Architecture some years ago… It must be worse these days.
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Michael Deloatch said:
I am not aware of the source, but it rings true to me, and a beautifully crafted bit of prose. Having suffered Athlete’s Foot a few times over the years, I can attest that that itch can certainly drive your feet all over the place…
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
All of above work for Langley – knowingly or not.
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Meri Perkinsmasochist said:
I wanted to see what you guys said about the soros/zelensky tweet—thought maybe you’d show it to Miles. Interesting it is 1 comment above which Stephen thinks is fake. So is it? Is it just an ‘aging’ app? Mind -blowing if they are related somehow.
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Stephen said:
I didn’t say that I think it’s fake. I put “phoeny” in the wrong context, I guess. They look related to me, which, given they’re both Eastern European jews, shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone of us.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
The prize goes to Peep. It’s from Architrave 29, from my alma mater. They were teaching the mind-stir drivel in the late ‘80s when I was there, and apparently still are.
And Boris is probably right, as well.
Michael, my taste in prose is different. I found it all soulless, tedious, and amateurish. Imagine 154 pages of that. I think they were trying to metaphorically describe the learning process of a 4 year degree, but athlete’s foot would be more pleasant than reading this.
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Tiny Peep said:
Hello colleague, good to see you here 🙂
Among other things, we absolutely had to worship Le Corbusier. My friend and I were practically whispering to one another some critical thoughts on his works.
When I discovered Miles, I realized Le Corb was just another agent of change, hired specifically not to revolutionize architecture, but to pound it into rubble.
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Wayne said:
Reading “Sitrep: Operation Z” on the Saker blog, they mention the Ukro actors were mock fighting from inside a couple of factories in Mariupol and about to be defeated by the Russian actors. Maybe in time to observe Easter Sunday. Or in eight days to celebrate the “feast of the The Resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ” on April 24.
Memories of “Enemy at the Gates” with the dramatic scenes of heavy fighting inside the factories came back to me. How WW2, I thought.
I began to wonder if perhaps these factories were in need of 9/11 type demolition, with the possibility of both a insurance payout and public money paying for the toxic cleanup.
The first I checked was Azovstal iron and steel works.
wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azovstal_iron_and_steel_works
And yes, it’s an abandoned and a toxic waste site, like the asbestos riddled towers in NYC.
Not so obvious for the Illich Steel and Iron Works. A currently productive enterprise, setup as Joint Stock Company. At least no publicly known problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illich_Steel_and_Iron_Works
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Plus, the military hardware contractors are in high demand now. Cha ching. Send guns, buy me a fighter jet, oh the poor Ukies are using WWI rifles, send them the “assault weapons” that the left doesn’t want US citizens to own.
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pjj said:
Mr Stein is copying from miles’s papers: https://mobile.twitter.com/mrgoldstein7
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suntzufighting said:
Who is this Goldstein?
A parallel?
A plagiarist?
Both?
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Lio said:
Are you one of Goldstein’s agents?
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suntzufighting said:
So a blackwash of Miles by The Ministry of Truth?
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Lio said:
Orwell wrote a guidebook, not a warning
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drew steele said:
“Orwell wrote a guidebook, not a warning“
Agreed.
I was taught to believe it was some great visionary’s work but eventually came to see it as a blueprint.
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Kevin said:
He appears to be both. He’s ripping off Miles word for word…
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Jared Magneson said:
It appears he has a fan base of zero and he “wrote” almost all of that TODAY, in the last 8 hours.
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kocotube01 začasni said:
A bot, maybe?
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Fitzmar said:
This is an interesting site. Many of “The Families” links are there.
“https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-menu.php?name=7516+elizabeth+ii”
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notabaron said:
goldmine
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Gwyn said:
A goldmine, indeed! Some of those connections really bounce off the page.
And I wonder how many people are aware that Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip were both great-great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria.
Many thanks for posting that, Fitzmar.
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suntzufighting said:
And they claim Appalachian are inbred. Projection?
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Michael Deloatch said:
I am trying to unwind all the layers of occult meaning in this one:
Baby zebra spooked by ostriches dies at Disney World
https://apnews.com/article/travel-lifestyle-birds-animals-01809697af903a294286bf8cd3c33485
Who is Disney to tell us who and what to put into and keep in our thoughts? Oh, yeah, lol…
[ Just keep them the hell out of your prayers, right? ]
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kocotube01 začasni said:
Try using the “Monarch programming” dictionary.
It is quite a straightforward message.
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suntzufighting said:
Throw us a bone!
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kocotube01 začasni said:
@ suntzu
Just improvising here.
For Suntzu eyes only, others ignore this, please don’t read any further. Last warning. Unsettling content.
Baby “zebra” – [mason, child, in programming session];
World’s animal kingdom – [international “attendance” in these spooky training sessions];
was being spooked – [live, personality spli(n)tting session];
two “ostriches” – [“disposable playmates” (Venatio games style); the kind who knows nothing and is bred for this particular role];
Thursday – [programming by using thirst “method”];
a/the “family” – [programmers/handlers];
upsetting experience – [programming gone wrong, the family lost one of their own];
Hartmann mountain “zebra” – [mason child, from ?Africa?Canada?]
enormous “birds” released – [two female “ostriches”; ?enormous, (blood) thirsty?];
“animal” care “Cast” “Members” – [“cast”, indicating already molded split personalities, programmed for a role of supporting stuff, caretakers; “members” of the Monarch programming activities, lower rank];
keep … in your thoughts – [the “cast” will be punished for their misconduct, someone has to take responsibility and it ain’t the programmers/handlers who will pay; keep following the “news” of appropriate punishment announcement, soon to be cast].
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Thomas said:
Disney has always had a sinister agenda, which is now so crazy, that people actually start to see it.
https://9gag.com/gag/aBnRz0D
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Thomas said:
U.S. Department of Defense awarded a contract for ‘COVID-19 Research’ in Ukraine 3 months before Covid was known to even exist. (11 February 2020 by WHO)
It was not about Covid research, it was about the “vaccine”.
The author stick to Wuhan, as the origin of the virus, but I think that is wrong, as no virus was needed to start the show and we also later on learned that no vaccine/snake oil injections make any difference to the silly Covid testing.
https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/04/13/us-dod-contract-covid-research-ukraine-nov-2019/
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suntzufighting said:
Here is axiomatic proof that AI does not exist:
Those website Turing tests where you have to confirm “I am not a robot” by choosing all the pictures with a bicycle(for example) can not be beaten by an AI written by an MIT sophomore? I mean, AI is designing molecules and steering rovers on Mars, so that should be easy-peas.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
A 2nd year college student? They don’t even know which bathroom to use.
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Kieran said:
Who is claiming general AI exists? Also, ReCAPTCHA works by analysing the user’s behaviour like mouse movement, pausing to think, or actually getting some difficult answers wrong in order to estimate whether the user is a bot. It’s difficult to program a computer to move the mouse like a human would, with arcing motions, non-constant velocity, and overshooting buttons. Furthermore, axioms are things that are simply accepted rather than proven; other facts may then be proven to be entailed by the axioms. “Axiomatic proof” does not make sense the way you are using it (and your proof relies on not understanding how ReCAPTCHA works, since statistical models can certainly detect stop signs and crosswalks). Are you trying to claim that every machine learning researcher and data scientist on the planet is lying to you? You know you can download their code on GitHub and run it yourself, right?
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Jared Magneson said:
Oh, give Sunny a little break here. I mean, he didn’t know what CGI was so why would we expect him to know anything about intelligence, artificial or otherwise?
But yeah, that’s not only the shittiest “axiomatic” anything ever written, Sunny, but also false. Why do you say stuff like that? How do you not know what Captchas are, in 2022? CGI we can forgive – not really, I mean not at all, but we can pretend we forgave you for that whole shit-show helicopter nonsense you and Fatty tried pulling.
That was solid gold, though. A good time was had by all.
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suntzufighting said:
In principle there is no difference between identifying a bicycle or identifying certain idiosincracies in time between keystrokes/cursor trajectories etc.
Axiomatic=self-evident truth. It is Mainstream-accepted that AI is not only possible, it actually exists. It drives your Tesla, FFS. So that “self-evident” truth is contradicted by the need for a capcha or whatever.
Code? I find it as tedious as someone said about chess(horsey jumps, lookee where it ends up).
Jar-head, you still sore, bro? Its been a month or more since that Hind exploded in a shower of pixels.
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Jared Magneson said:
I can’t read your reply, kiddo. It’s just a bunch of pixels and clearly the work of an AI doing CGI.
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Graham said:
I think anyone relying on the thesis, “a computer can drive a car therefore artificial intelligence exists” is ignoring the fact that a lot of morons can drive cars.
Not only that but errors occur in both human and computer controlled drives, hence the need for insurance, and the vast amount of evidence of collisions..
So are we now to believe that errors are a sign of intelligence?
Maybe LEARNING from errors is a sign of intelligence, but do computer driven cars learn from their mistakes or are tyhey just reprogrammed by humans and thus unable to learn independently?
If setting the bar for intelligence testing consists of driving a car I respectfully suggest the bar has been set too low to qualify anything as intelligent, including anyone who falls for that argument.
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kocotube01 začasni said:
Problem of “Objective robustness” and “Interpretability” technique problem in reinforcement learning.
“- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYylPRX6z4Q -”
“- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbPdEHEyEI -“
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pjj said:
It depends on what do you mean by AI. If you mean AI which will have emotions or will take over the world? That sounds like a stretch.
But self-driving cars, Teslas driving itself? That’s picking up, though nowhere near perfect. ML/AI can be used to play chess, write poems and even have conversations. All of that is possible today.
Source: me. you can quote me.
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Jared Magneson said:
Well the POINT here is that he’s essentially correct: there is no such thing as “AI”, at all. It does not exist. I do work in that industry and it’s not just a misnomer, it’s a marketing ploy at all points, across the board, in every field. There is no AI.
Machine learning is not AI. It’s just math calcs, with inputs and algorithms to perform additional calcs, and dedicated hardware (think, Nvidia Tesla chips/Tensor cores) to speed those calculations up. It does not think. It is not intelligent in any way. It’s just a regular computer rebranded as something else.
So while I agree with his point, there’s nothing “axiomatic” about it and it was a very silly way to phrase things.
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pjj said:
@Jared there’s no disagreement with what you said. There is no intelligence in machines and hence there’s no AI in the literal sense of the word.
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rolleikin said:
@ Jared
“I do work in that industry”
What programming languages are you proficient in?
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pjj said:
Some beautiful music from Budapest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d6-WyzYr34
Beauty endures. Blessed Sunday evening/night everyone!
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kocotube01 začasni said:
Found this four part playlist, titled “Unreasonable Request”, on the “Chronicles of the Unconvinced” YT channel.
“- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvne0CndBpE&list=PLxZyuLtCcuQNVMwJ0byil3CiO-_K0R25M -”
Note under the title says:
“From Applauded Hero to Potentially Infectious Zero.
This is part one of my account of going against my employer when they insisted I put my faith in the government, and join the mass hysteria.”
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kocotube01 začasni said:
Brazil movie evoking paper by Miles – http://mileswmathis.com/adele.pdf – about Adele, yet another rich Phoenician kid pulling strings – https://youtu.be/0zYREwD9e6U – while entering an endless spirit crushing spiral by promotion of out of tune makeover realities …or … my-complication-had-a-little-complication (https://youtu.be/M1Wdmp_izUc?t=5921).
This time around the absent father, instead of being a “baker” or a “barber”, is presented in a role of “plumber”. Immediately puling an almost forgotten memory of Harvey Keitel’s (Pulp fiction) problem solving “cleaner” role into foreground.
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Michael Deloatch said:
No worries on the commandments / coschmandments conflict and bearing false witness.
Most of the 10 Commandments are prohibitive “thou shalt NOT…” statements by the Deity. The Hebrew for “not” is “לֹא”.
You just put your righteous fingers into your ears and go “la la la la” while that part of the Torah is read. Problem = solved.
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Maria said:
I am not so sure Adele isn’t gay: https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a317868/adele-id-do-it-with-rihanna/
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suntzufighting said:
Struck me just now: Harvey Keitel shares a surname with Generalfeldmarschall Wilhelm Keitel, him of Neurenberg fame. Also known as Lakeitel(lackey). Oy vey.
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davidbehlman said:
Click to access adele.pdf
This Adele stuff is more disturbing than I expected with that eerie collection of photos.
I wanted to comment on what Miles says at the end about how they, the Families, ignore the 9th Commandment despite it being “their own rule”. I haven’t been shy about my belief and support for the Bible and this relates. How can I be so silly to put faith in the Bible when it’s just another Phoenician project? Because it clearly isn’t. The history of Bible translation shows that powerful entities were bent on holding back such efforts – or do you think such stories were faked for the public? In 1530? Now, most of the versions available are tampered with, just find an interlinear text and you’ll soon discover that have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to justify the choices found in many common translations. (ex. LORD and stauros) What is being hidden by those choices?
We can plainly see that “you must not testify falsely” ISN’T their rule simply because they do not follow it. The Torah is filled with rules they ignore, which perhaps can lend to its creditability. “But Jesus ‘fulfilled’ the law so we don’t need all these rules.” Yes, but he also encouraged people to prioritize spiritual things which includes and begins with loving God, YHWH. If you love God, you’ll love his human creation and if you love people you won’t lie to them. Simple application of principles. In physics it’s spinning spheres, in spiritual things the most basic thing is love.
Despite all the efforts to confuse the message and surround it with noise they can’t stop the signal of truth that it contains, but like Miles papers you won’t get it until you’ve really read it for yourself letting it speak for itself, allowing it to override any preconceived notions you have about it.
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Chris Ryska said:
@davidbehlman, Thanks for that!!
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pjj said:
I learned today the Bible has 613 has commandments. If the writers of the Bible had hired Goldman Sachmans, they would have narrowed down to 18 commandments. Efficiency and cost-cutting, you know?
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Raymond D. said:
“Now, most of the versions available are tampered with”
Yup; same goes for a lot of the ancient texts, i.e. not wholly phoenician but stolen stories and histories twisted to their advantage.
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davidbehlman said:
I meant tampered with in a more modern translations sense. That’s why I mention ‘stauros’, there’s no secular reason to translate it as ‘cross’, yet most Christians pretend that’s what it means. Similarly, the small-caps “LORD” isn’t a great way to translate a proper name.
As to the point of tampering with texts I think the Bible is unique again in this because unlike other ancient texts it encouraged the making of copies of itself: Deuteronomy 17:18, Joshua 8:32. This helps us detect tampering because with many copies tampering would be easy to spot since there’d be a lot of mismatching, but from my research it has held up pretty well. I feel the recommendation to make copies is proof of someone with a lot of foresight was behind it.
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Gerry said:
For those of you who are not religious, I remind you that I have already found a perfect explanation for all the strange specifics of ancient texts, religious or not: They’re encrypted texts, that are mixing actual but unrelated historic names from arbitrary epochs & places, plus made-up names, plus strange wordings, just to get the letters that are needed for the encryption.
The 9th commandment is a very good example. Content-wise, it’s perfectly OK. Only the wording is strange. For a command to prohibit lying, the most straightforward way to to say it would have been: “Don’t lie, but tell the truth!” Instead, the authors chose a somewhat specific & garbled phrase: “Don’t testify about your neighbor with testimony that is false.” Why? Because the Hebrew word for “neighbor” is very similar to the word for “ruler”, and the prefix for “about” is the same as for “while”. So the phrase is similar to: “Don’t testify while your ruler is testifying falsely.” Of course, something like this would not be obvious to common Jews or Hebrew speakers, especially if the text is ancient, and promoted as sacred. But the spooks don’t need an asterisk or an exception, because they are not in fact common Jews. They’re just ancient aristocratic fraudsters, who only ever read the encrypted meaning.
Otherwise, I’d say there’s nothing wrong with any of the 10 commandments. There’s no great conspiracy or whatnot behind them, like some faux truther sites claim. They may not cover all possible human vices & virtues, but every reader should get the gist that you’re supposed to be honest, not cheat etc. Just because a text is encrypted doesn’t mean the literal meaning is wrong. In this case, it’s even right, and the encrypted meaning is just plain wrong.
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Lewis Reid said:
Wikitree now informs me of the following:
New tech changes:
“Gender” is now “Sex at Birth”. (!)
Genealogy Newspeak…?
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Paris Green said:
“http://therabbithole.wiki/ancient-faiths-embodied-in-ancient-names-or-an-attempt-to-trace-the-religious-belief-sacred-rites-and-holy-emblems-of-certain-nations-by-an-interpretation-of-the-names-given-to-children-by-pries/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ancient-faiths-embodied-in-ancient-names-or-an-attempt-to-trace-the-religious-belief-sacred-rites-and-holy-emblems-of-certain-nations-by-an-interpretation-of-the-names-given-to-children-by-pries”
this wiki is a great resource for downloadable books
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Many thanks for the link, PG. I’m always interested in other people ideas about languages, particularly ancient ones used by groups before nation states were created.
I down loaded a .pdf copy of ‘Ancient faiths embodied in ancient names; or, An attempt to trace the religious belief, sacred rites, and holy emblems of certain nations’, here…
“https://ia904500.us.archive.org/33/items/ancientfaithsem02inma/ancientfaithsem02inma.pdf”
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
The 613 or whatever Mosaic laws (not commandments) were meant to define the Jews as a culture separate from others. Moses spent 40 years, not getting the Jews out of Egypt, but getting Egypt out of the Jews.
Jesus came along and said to heck with that, just be nice to each other; done. I don’t think any group would attempt to subvert a society and destroy it by using the message of love your neighbor.
As for the Jews ignoring their own laws, don’t we all? Who doesn’t lust, get angry, etc. at times? Nobody.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Yes, too much ‘loving your neighbor’ can definitely get you in a whole heap of trouble.
At the end of the day, we’re all emotionally driven social animals, not saints. No one should feel guilty when thinking about what those of a religious bent would call sins. Although if you do decide to act on these impulses you need to construct a good plan, and be aware of the consequences should thing go awry.
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suntzufighting said:
Sounds like you are giving the seventh commandment some thought😁
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davidbehlman said:
I like what you said about defining the culture. Though I want to be precise and say that Jesus wasn’t subverting the Mosaic Law, he upheld it with his life, and his death at the hand of Jews ended it, bringing in a new arrangement for worship. He was also wise enough to know how to sum it up when asked.
As for everyone not upholding their own laws. Yeah, but most law codes don’t dictate how to think or feel, they are mainly concerned with behavior. A moment of lust and anger isn’t really a transgression of the Law, but unchecked lust may become coveting and anger unchecked can lead to harmful behavior. This pattern was something Jesus did touch on. Jesus’ recommendation is way harder to pull off, I think.
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suntzufighting said:
Beta testing of 21st century slavery, China variant:
https://gizmodo.com/teslas-shanghai-factory-will-reportedly-force-employees-1848806106
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Michael Deloatch said:
Gee wiz, sounds like anti-sino propaganda to me. I am in the US and nobody ever had to force me to sleep at the workplace. It just came naturally after a high-carb lunch.
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Gijs said:
Even newer paper : http://mileswmathis.com/bounty.pdf
I’ve been trying to find fakes in the history of my own country, and this was a prospect: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muiterij_op_De_Zeven_Provinci%C3%ABn (doesn’t have an English page, that was already strange)
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Kevin MURPHY said:
Fascinating paper! When I was in the Navy, and we were in port in Hawaii, some of the native Hawaiians were not friendly to me. I never knew much about the history. I loved both movies about the Bounty. Although when I watched the 84 version last year, I knew the story was probably fake, but a nice made up tale. Loved the Cook connection and Hawaii tie. Great food for thought! Makes me want to dig deeper.
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Wayne said:
Many native Hawaiians don’t like “howlis” [whites] at all.
Driving by a group hanging around on the side of the road around Oahu, they yelled out “Howli!” at us.
I responded with “kankasui” (sic) a Hawaiian word for stupid, crazy person.
Back in 1967-69, several Hawaiians guys were living in the same apartment complex in Redding, California, attending Shasta Community College, as I was. I asked one why did they pick Shasta. He responded “It has to be Shasta” pointing to a can of Shasta root beer with that slogan. Not sure if he was being serious.
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Michael Deloatch said:
Probably they simply were being hospitable and friendly, shouting out “howdy!” but you misunderstood them.
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suntzufighting said:
If you are interested oin the VOC, follow the Wolraad Woltemade rabbit hole.
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vitopoteri said:
Brando named his son Christian, he probably was related to Fletcher indeed.
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rolleikin said:
Brando was gay. His boyfriend was Wally Cox. (not joking)
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Reading Miles’ paper, I expected to read that Bligh and Christian were gay.
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das8777 said:
And Mel Gibson is still buying islands…or taking them over:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-mar-03-wk-quick3.6-story.html
“Any legal challenge to the sale is likely to be difficult now that Gibson is the legal owner, but a landless tribe of indigenous Fijians say that their ancestors were forced from the island in the 19th century and that they want it back.”
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Gijs said:
I just watched the whole 1962 Movie – a bit long, but Ok – unbelievable how Brando was portrayed as sooo highminded, highborn, totally in love with himself.
But I’m glad I did: I didn’t know the story at all, and only now could I appreciate the Mel-Colm Gibson paper (Pitcairn… what???) http://mileswmathis.com/mel.pdf
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Greg said:
Speaking of the bounty, Captain Jack Sparrow aka Johnny Depp is getting alot of prime time. I’d say Amber Heard pooping on his bed is worthy of a little more attention than Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. Wonder why they are having this show trial far away from their residences, at the Fairfax County Circuit Courthouse in Fairfax, Virginia? I guess they are running out of funds for Ukraine charade.
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suntzufighting said:
Look what Mr Day has dredged up:
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Louis Lewis said:
I always feel sorry for people when they do stupid stuff. Even after they ostracize me or insult me or shun me…..but I have to say: I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!
And I’m laughing and smiling when I say this. I don’t care anymore about people’s feelings. I’ve always been the lunatic crazy conspiracy nutjob in my circles, even after my ‘conspiracies’ turn out to be Reality. People cannot admit that they were so wrong about so many things.
And for those of you took the jibby jabby, you only have yourself to blame. Nope, nobody ‘forced’ you to get it…..sure, they made threats about losing your jobs, not traveling, not eating out at some over-priced restaurants….but nobody stuck a gun in your face, did they? I would rather starve to death than take that poison.
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Raymond D. said:
“Careful, Icarus” 😉
Regarding the naysayers — not just regarding covid1984 but all the big scams — I sometimes wonder if such people are exhibiting a form of pride; that they cannot be deceived or that they know for certain that governments would never do such cruel things to them. It can’t always be naivity or laziness (“going with the flow”), so perhaps there is an aspect of pride in the denial, especially if they’re nasty in their denial.
I’ve been guilty of such hubris, refusing to countenance another opinion that challenges my own; my pride — if it is pride, maybe there’s a better world to describe it — still blinds me at times. It seems to be the most insidious of vices; not the worst but the most common, the one we cannot see corrupting us.
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Flopot said:
“naivete”
“naivety”
Jebus, I dunno 😛
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Raymond D. said:
Sorry, I used an old moniker there; getting tired.
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Gijs said:
But don’t forget: in a way it IS a unbelievable story.
There’s way more Gay Jewish Actors that Faked their own Death than you would expect in this part of the Galaxy statistically.
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rolleikin said:
Another tweet further down that same page from a “Dr B”:
“I’ve been a pediatrician for 6 years. While I don’t have the experience as many others, I can say the amount of case reports of children with heart attacks and myocarditis in the last year is like nothing I’ve ever seen before”
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Roelf_zelf said:
Maybe they were shaking their blankets too hard
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A Spirit said:
@Louis Lewis
Until very recently I consistently thought like that. When I am pissed off (often) I still think like that. However we can also look at it this way: Many (probably the majority) of the vaxxed are just very weak people. Waaay weaker than us here. Threats, bluffs, pressure and fakery are more than enough to break them. Only last year I realized how weak they are and I am not saying this to insult them. I actually feel sorry for them. Now that I see some vaxxed people starting to doubt “their” “decision” I can only feel sorry.
This is not to say that they aren’t responsible. Their misplaced trust in authority is their fault. Their lack of seriousness (“I’ll get the jab to get over with this so I can go on with my life”) is their fault. Nevertheless, we just went through the biggest psyop of all time bar none. 911 was child’s play compared to The Great Coronahoax. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised at how many people failed that test of character since most of them are weak. Only thing that is really surprising is the numbers. It is not just the majority that is like that. It is the VAST SUPERMAJORITY like at least 70% of everyone you see outside… That’s pretty astonishing.
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Kevin said:
CONVID has to be the Phoenies’ biggest crime so far because not only did they do the usual pillaging of trillions of dollars but they literally stole two years of LIFE and sanity, in various degrees, from ALL of us. We’ve also had to bear witness to some of the most vile people on the planet parade in front of us on a daily basis acting as saviours of humanity while in reality they are deliberately maiming and killing people. As far as I’m concerned, those who took and have so far survived the toxic injections are now technically mutants who face an unknown future in regards to their physical and frankly mental health. The direct and collateral damage caused by this unforgivable crime is incalculable and we will all suffer the consequences in one form or another for who knows how many more years into the future.
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Louis Lewis said:
Agreed. I have always felt ‘alone’ with my beliefs, which are based on facts and common sense. The last 2 years were torture for me, but fortunately for me I live near 3 ‘normal’ states, so I have spent much of my time in those free states. Chicago is dead. Some businesses still require the vax to eat, but I will never eat at a restaurant in Chicago because so many people embraced tyranny and fascism. F the lot of ’em.
For the last 2 years, I was alone on the train unmuzzled (and in the streets). Now, after the ‘mandates’ were lifted, I’m one of the FEW on the train unmuzzled. The nearby university, Loyola, mandated all the kids get the jabs. They have signs on campus stating you must suffocate yourself on school property. Signs state that only jabbed sheep get entrance into the buildings (not true, since I walked around the student center last week….nobody asked me to show my vax status.) These kids are now just taking off the germ-filled biohazards. But I cannot wait until they leave my neighborhood…..a bunch of sickly-looking, horribly-dressed slaves. Cute, young girls are on the decline. They dress in those baggy Mom jeans from the 80’s.
I sometimes utter things when I walk past the muzzled sheep herds, such as, “Breathing fresh air is scawwwwwwwwwy!” When I’m waiting at a crosswalk and I’m next to the Muzzles, I may take a long, deep breath and say, “Oh, that fresh air is great, huh?” And then I look at the Muzzles and say, “Oops, sorry. You wouldn’t know about that.” One dude, wearing hospital scrubs, hates my guts. Last summer I walked past him and exclaimed, “Breathing fresh air is actually healthy!” I have run into him a few times since and he gives me the evil eye. Still muzzled, he is.
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Kevin said:
Yup – the mainstream really is the MATRIX. It always has been, but CONVID has revealed it in spades.
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Mantalo said:
@kevin
You see that time is important
May be time is our greatest wealth
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Louis Lewis said:
You anti-maskers are lunatics. Masks work. If you want to restrict your oxygen and fresh air intake, they work great. They also work great at breeding and spreading germs. And best of all, they work great if you match up the color of your muzzle with your outfit. Voila!
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Louis Lewis said:
I’ve been having loads of fun the last few days pulling the ‘Masks Required’ signs on the buses and trains in Chitown. Some people looked at me like I was stabbing a baby. The bus driver this morning thanked me when I told him I was just taking down the useless signs.
I participated in an in-person market research study last night downtown, and out of the 6 of us only one stupid twat muzzled up. When she sat next to me, I moved over a seat. She seemed a little po’d at that. F her.
Fun times. Fun stuff.
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t0clock said:
Same here, I’ve been avoiding the masked / vaxxed twats like the plague, or giving them looks-that-could-kill. Payback time, they deserve all the crap they’re getting.
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Mantalo said:
@t0clock
It would be nice to meet you, en vrai, très cher !
Une rencontre avec une personne sensée me ferait beaucoup de bien
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t0clock said:
@Mantalo
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Ali said:
I wanted to add my intakes about miles’s paper on Adele.
More specifically, when he mentions about the commandments and the jews not respecting them.
These commandments sound like a trap to me.
My opinion is that when Moise and his phoenician scribe peers were hijacking the ancient egyptian dynasties establishing a new priest class of overlords, the hyksos, they wanted to push excessive obligations over the egyptian people as a strategy to further their control on them.
That was when the commandments came in, i think.
Setting unreasonable expectations in order for anyone following them to fail or to be brought to, was their objective.
The old testament story on Moise was also made to cover that the jews were not the slave but the egyptian people masters.
Preventing future investigators to understand that the exode was also a cover for an other event.
Indeed, at that time, the phoenicians were only pillaging and sackaging ancient egypt, bringing their trophees to ancient arabia and creating another trading route by the same occasion.
They thought of a way to bring shame over anyone questioning these facts and they thought about the commandments as a tentative to shunt other versions of that story.
So obviously, to me, the commandments were made to be respected only for the slaves at that time.
The masters were not bothered by such a thing, in fact it was and it is used to this day as an instrument to increase control and prevent criticism by instilling fear in people(like they do in islam).
Also i wanted to add something that i dare think is very important.
When miles speak about the seven deadly sins and add that ‘to lie’ should be one of them, i found in my opinion, that he is insufficient.
The fact is that lying is an insufficient term when we speak about how jews behave in regard to the gentiles.
Let me be straight, the seven deadly sins, the commandments are too general and elusive to be efficient and we see that to this day, it is not a problem for the jews.
They will always find a way to get around these and i think the elusive aspects of these concepts is a voluntary scheme.
So here is a proposition.
There are things that i consider worse than lying, cheating, robbing since all those actions can be brought by circumstances.
Those things must be placed together over all the seven deadly sins, the commandments as the very line that separate one from the abyss :
Confusion.
Denigration.
Psycho-annihilation(for malevolence purposes).
More specifically i would like to talk about psycho-annihilation here.
My definition would be that psycho-annihilation is a PROCESS to push Cause as Effects and Effects as Cause in the mind of the victim while completely denying its right to simply be and annihilating its right to brought his own representations of how he represents things.
So what i mean, is that psycho-annihilation is a process made to brought one to face paradoxal situations, confusion for annihilation purposes.
This process can be conduct onto individual, groups, communities, tribes, peoples.
These paradoxal circumstances can brought victim to commit sins (such as lying, cheating, robbing for instance) even thought they weren’t sinners in the first place and the true sinners to get unremoveable.
It is like programming, you have inputs and outputs and you program the way input interacts with outputs.
When the program always shows the same outputs even though it was not supposed to, obviously you agree that the problem is not the outputs (the actions) but the program (how the actions have been brought in, in the first place).
One who is very agile at that manoeuver is the malevolent narcissist which projects into his victim a one sided representation/narrative of his self and by doing so, destroying his host self image over his entourage.
When the host tries to assess the situation with others he is faced by confusion since he has been locked in a confusive narrative where the only key to get through out this situation, is in the confusers hand.
But the confuser will deny this right and annihilate ‘his’ host the right to get a rightful image over others or to push his own narrative on the balance
That is why i think the commandments have been made to cover complex malevolent tactics by establishing simple rules as a veil.
My opinion.
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Chris Ryska said:
@ Ali, The anti-Bible historians love to distort anything that might legitimize the Bible. Thus the “Hyksos invasion”. The Egyptian’s own account calls them “Amu”. The more likely scenario is that it was the Amalekites {Amu} that were oppressing the Egyptians, and the foreign liberators were the Israelites under their first king, “Saul”, who, according to the Bible, made war with the Amalekites, utterly destroying them, thus liberating Egypt. However, I don’t think that your analysis is entirely useless.
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Ali said:
@Chris Ryska
It is obvious you haven’t read Miles paper on the phoenicians in the dark age.
The phoenicians rebranded themselves as Israelites after the dark age events to hide the fact that they were the sea peoples, also the twelve tribes of Israel (all)and the cause of this age shift which had lead to the iron age.
But well i do actually think that your contribution here is not totally useless either since it kind of show that to denigrate can be a way to self glorification.
But that part of my comment is too much for you to handle.
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Ali said:
Edit : “When miles speak about the seven deadly sins and add that ‘to lie’ should be one of them, i found in my opinion, that IT WAS insufficient.”
I apologise for the wrong choice of words here and hope miles (if he ever were to read my comment) don’t take it too much personnally, it was a mistake on my part.
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Lio said:
So Florida passed the bill to end Disney’s special tax status. I doubt this will do anything but somehow bilk John Everyman in those counties out of more of his money in the end.
Last year Disney reportedly paid 25m in taxes, on 22b in profit. That’s like .11 percent.
Meanwhile, I have to pay nearly 25 percent of my income in taxes because I have the audacity to be self employed.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
The Florida Senate passed it. The House needs to vote, then the Governor sign it. So it’s not a done deal.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
The House has now voted to pass it.
It’s strange how fast this is moving.
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Rober said:
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=40B7726AF4ABE9B501A3539AC48A33C9
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miles mathis said:
Solar flux at 160 today! Nails in coffins, but not yours. You should be climbing out of yours.
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Philip Cox said:
That explains.. a lot. Had my most productive day in a long time. And I almost threw a customer out of the restaurant I work at tonight, because he was acting like a entitled man-child.
If anyone wants a front row seat to the freak show that this country is becoming, go get yourself a gig at one of these pitiful places. It’ll sober you up quick.
This one goes out to all my homies who have to suffer these greasy traps, awful customers, and back-stabbing managers and owners.
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Jared Magneson said:
Not to shit on anyone’s parade, but that doesn’t “explain” anything. I am fully onboard with Miles’ charge theories, and delve into everything he writes on the topic with wild abandon. My opinion here won’t be popular but hopefully it will make sense.
But it’s not wu-wu magic, it’s not thoughts and prayers and Live/Laugh/Love. Solar flux is a natural fluctuation in insolation, of course. But it doesn’t power up your day or make the world a better place. More photons coming down or up isn’t going to do anything on its own. How do we know this?
Because it happens every day at local levels in absolutely different ways. Measuring insolation is just one factor – but last summer when it was up to 118° for three days in my area did everyone get a massive boost of LIFE or energy? No, not at all. In Death Valley, is everyone happy as shit? Nope. What about Ecuador? No. What about California or even Florida? No.
Sure, the beautiful weather makes everyone FEEL better! Soggy, dreary days aren’t exactly a fun time for most people – though some do enjoy that, and are happier when it rains. Results may vary. I’m not saying at all that the Sun’s warmth and shine don’t play a part in our better days, because as a gardener and Heliotheist of sorts, it absolutely does play a huge role.
But the motivation comes from within, not from without. It’s not a fake horoscope thing, it’s not solar magic. It does not explain why you had a productive day. You CHOSE to have a productive day, and do the things you wanted to do. Putting that choice off on a naturally random event nobody had anything to do with generating denies your personal power and will. Insolation doesn’t explain why you had a powerful day, your WILLpower explains it.
And you can do this any day you choose. That’s my beef. People hoping they’ll “feel better” based on insolation, and waiting for those days to happen (by the way, nobody is measuring this shit at all including any space agency/weather agency/physicist, because no tools even exist to measure insolation beyond temperature currently) is completely unnecessary. If you need to drive out your internal darkness, you can do so without waiting for the Sun for assistance.
And the main reason I am bringing this up is that up here in Washington State, we have (often) hundreds of days of gloom, rain, fog, forest fire smoke, and all manner of insolation-defying activities. And yet, things are very prolific for those who take action and responsibility for their own motivation. If we waited for the Sun to drive us, we would never have done anything at all.
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Philip Cox said:
No where did I say it was attributed to wu-wu magic. Miles knows charge boost isn’t wu-wu magic either. You’re not wrong about choosing, and you would have seen my choices made today, poor or otherwise, if you were here.
But seriously it sounds like you need to get laid, bad. Cheer up dude.
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Jared Magneson said:
Oh, man. I’m telling you to be happy about your accomplishments because YOU did it, And you’re mad.
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I pass said:
How can it NOT make a difference ? Energy is all there is.
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Raymond D. said:
Charge helps those who help themselves…to charge…no wait!?!
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Philip Cox said:
Jesus man.. and to think I used to respect you. All you do here now is pick fights for no good reason.
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Stephen said:
Low-T bickering 😉
@Jared, ya gotta up ur T, bro, and get in the gym for some gainz!
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Philip Cox said:
He needs to get off here for awhile and do something else please, instead of making stupid memes and trolling. Jared and rollie’s tag teaming needs to stop.
Oooo, “I make my own choices”! Really? How deep! Better write that one down. How stupid do you think I am? Stop sticking words in other people’s mouths and maybe you won’t make a fool of yourself next time.
I’m done talking to anyone here unless we’re doing actual research and outings.
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Jared Magneson said:
You used to respect me? Why, because I would counter any and all FOG I saw here and refute it, regardless of the noise and public opinion? Or was it because my counter-arguments aligned with your views more often than not?
I don’t care if you respect me at all. You couldn’t and didn’t answer or refute one single point I made here, but instead pathetically attacked my sexuality and (Stephen) my physique, both of which are doing just fine. You went for my nuts because my arguments had stuffed ’em all up in your faces, apparently. You got mad.
How stupid do I think you are? I don’t. You came in on this one suckin’ Miles dick and when I spoke up about it, you got mad and popped mine in your mouth out of anger.
THAT explains a lot more than insolation, Philip. You took my statements about CHARGE personally and got defensive. Sorry about your ego, son.
As for that Rollie guy, I give better than I get and am not predictable. Nobody WANTS that shitty drama, but I’m sure as fuck not going to just sit by and watch some rookie take shots without crushing them – just like I’m doing here. So be done talking, Philip. I’m happy to have “ruined” it for you if that’s all it took – one refutation, and you buckle.
Nobody needs weak allies.
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Jared Magneson said:
I pass said: “How can it NOT make a difference ? Energy is all there is.”
Bullshit. E=mc², remember? Energy is the transfer of momentum between MATTER, so to say that “energy is all there is” ignores, you know, the entire mass of the Universe and all velocities and vectors too. That’s Live/Laugh/Love nonsense, akin to the people who post about Tesla and VIBES, bro. “It’s all about VIBES.” Well then what is vibrating? They can never, ever say.
Energy is not all there is at all, since it’s not even WHAT is. The motion is not the thing, but an attribute of it. Energies cannot collide – only real, physical matter can. Energy is the measure of such a collision.
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Raymond D. said:
My nails are climbing out of me; we’re experiencing a modicum of success at the moment here. I’ll take that. Good times.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Maybe it’ll cure my sciatica. Nothing else seems to do a damn thing.
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Graham said:
I’m firmly of the belief that this could help you, its helped me with chronic long term pain in the past. Discovered it 7 or 8 years ago on recommendation from a natural healer. Haven’t suffered from anything since except frustration.
http://www.watercure.com/
I didn’t use the website however, came to the information via this:
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Graham said:
Something fishy with wordpress atm.
This link should have been the last part of my last post there, not a great big gap.
“https://www.amazon.com/Your-Bodys-Many-Cries-Water/dp/0970245882/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1FSG2ZJATYIXA&keywords=your+bodies+many+cries+for+water+book&qid=1650578483&s=books&sprefix=your+bodies+many+c%2Cstripbooks%2C160&sr=1-1”
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Greg said:
Batman is the author?
No word on the Johnny Depp showtrial? Hard to believe this guy is a major Hollywood actor, he looks and comes across like your average local methhead. I guess it’s not as amusing as the will smith slapfest.
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Wayne said:
Is there a short list, and not a null list, of important historical events that were NOT faked?
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Gijs said:
Good one. I was thinking the same, but then with / about people. Maybe in the format of a quiz: Spook or Dupe?
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
There have probably been a lot of significant events that were real, but since they didn’t benefit the Phoenicians, they weren’t entered into the historical record. Or the record lies about them.
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Raymond D. said:
The only thing that is real is the story of Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, working class boy made good; a rags-to-riches story impervious to the genius of Mr Mathis 😉
I’m tempting fate.
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suntzufighting said:
Michael Cane for the rest of us?
If too good to be true is the heuristic it kinda answers your question.
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miles mathis said:
All I can tell you is I have never researched one that is real. As for charge levels, it isn’t the same as temperature, so Jared’s comments don’t apply. Is Solar Maximum going to do away with winters? No, but flux will rise right through the next winter, and it WILL help you feel better. It is even now helping to jumpstart your endocrine system, which has been torpid for over four years due to ultra low charge levels system wide. For the next few years you will experience better nail growth, hair growth, skin health, tooth and bone health, the whole thing. And you will experience those things even if you have a bad attitude. I also second the motion that Jared and Rolle end the feud, it isn’t amusing and it probably drives off new and old posters. I would hate to see them face the accusation they are doing that on purpose. I have seen it suggested in emails and I don’t like to have to answer it.
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Jared Magneson said:
And you know I’m fine with all of that – charge isn’t always just heat content, obviously, or photon density in a given volume over a given time-frame. I’m not trying to naysay you on your own devastating theories, Miles.
But my endocrine system has not been deficient that I’m aware of, and if anyone’s needed a jumpstart we should have some data on that, yes? Has yours been torpid? Mine has not. Has anyone measured this, in a timely fashion? Maybe you have. I have not. It’s definitely subjective, but my health, hair, teeth, and bones haven’t taken any hits any time recently but how would we even measure such a thing, post-hoc?
My attitude is superb, however. I’m only piping up out of a call for rigor – one you helped to instill in me, of course. I’ve been talking about this since you first brought it up, so it shouldn’t come as any surprise. And of course it’s an unpopular opinion or hot take – but who else would even bring it up?
I don’t have any doubts about solar flux, insolation levels affecting us, and all of that. My annoyance was blatantly with people treating it like hocus-pocus “astrology”, claiming “oh that explains ______” when it absolutely did not in those cases, because energy levels cannot affect those events that people were claiming it explained.
As further evidence, lack of photons don’t make me an asshole and insolation doesn’t soften that either. That’s inherent in the system. 🙂
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Jared Magneson said:
But I’ll face THAT accusation here, now, and any other time necessary. Rollie is one of the hundreds of people online who just oppose me out of sheer ego and it generally happens very early on. I refute them once and they never get over it. With him/her/shim/they it was back in the Space forum, when a few simple statements about orbital dynamics ruined his entire outlook on life. Everything else is a continuation of that. Josh has asked us both to not respond to each other several times, and then we do for weeks or months, and then he pipes back up as soon as I trigger that ego-wound again by commenting on something someone else does or says.
Of course it’s not funny. It’s ugly. But since there’s no moderation here, no mechanisms for it, and no actual features you might find on any other site, he persists. So as is my nature, I invoke the Amtal and just level him over and over again. I have other, actual little brothers who pull the same shit. They demand abuse and seek it out, and if they cannot find it they will generate it any way they can. The attention validates them and they hunger for more.
Fortunately, those cycles can be broken but it generally takes acts of great psychological harm to break through. I always pull my punches with people like that, because that is also in my nature.
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Philip Cox said:
Again, nobody brought up the astrology and wu-wu stuff until you had to “Not rain on my parade” and pontificate, that looks like a back-handed slap to Miles’ theories, trying to tie it with astrology while seeming to praise it.
I pegged you as soon as you admitted you like going off and instilling misery in maskers and the like. Like I mentioned before about forum spooks and trolls, that’s the telltale sign. If you aren’t one, you sure are doing their work for them. Get off of here before you self-destruct even more.
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Jared Magneson said:
You would LOVE to have pegged me, Philip. Keep at it. Romance isn’t dead, you know!
The only “telltale sign” here is you mad, bro. I know you can read. So your offense at my previous comments was purely internalized, and had nothing to do with me.
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R T said:
The new generation of men’s levels of testosterone is nosediving. Scientific articles admit 1% a year, so it’s probably way worse than that. Plus the amount of gender confusion in the youth is related to this endocrine disruption. I’ll take any boost I can get. Obviously some portion of this is related to plastics leaching into the water supply.
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Wayne said:
Thanks for the reply. I would have been shocked if there was an example.
t would seem reasonable that known history is the product of those who ruled throughout that history.
It is said that the victors always write the history.
Whoever paid for, and thus controlled, the historians, priests, artists, architects, controlled the narrative, and the artifacts.
Much like today, when contrary viewpoints can be quashed with unapologetic, extreme prejudice, via a social media ban, the ancients were even more ruthless.
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t0clock said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10734555/Elon-Musk-blames-Netflixs-failing-fortunes-woke-mind-virus-unwatchable.html#comments
Beware the Musketeer, cutting through the Woke / Flix
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suntzufighting said:
Has Miles done a review of the movie Cloud Atlas?
Lots of big names, produced by the former Wachovski Brothers, later known as Wachovski Sisters and now merely the Wachovskis(per wiki).
Pretty sure it must be weapons grade propaganda and chaos. It was so bad I can’t remember a thing.
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Philip Cox said:
The author, David Mitchell, is easy to peg. His bio on Wiki reads like one those mediocre Harry Potter ghostwriters who somehow escaped from his cage from Vauxhall. His first novel is tellingly titled Ghostwritten, and one of the first chapters in Cloud Atlas is about a amanuensis, or a scribe being dictated what to write. Terrible movie.
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pjj said:
Interesting article from voxday: https://voxday.net/2022/02/05/portrait-of-the-ticket-takers/
Quote:
Because what the elite are selecting for is not intelligence or potential, but rather, one’s anticipated willingness to sell one’s soul to them.
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Which ties in nicely with Miles’ paper “A Nation of Scabs”: http://mileswmathis.com/scab.pdf
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They aren’t making paintings or sculptures because they are artists, because they have an innate and unquenchable desire to work with beauty and subtlety and skill. No, they are just making a living, and will do whatever it takes to do that. If they have to produce crap and constantly kiss ass, well, OK. If they have to sign contracts that make no sense and give them no rights, well, OK. If they have to smile and sit on their personality and have no opinions and act like miserable mice, well OK. The kids have to be fed.
But I have an idea: maybe you shouldn’t have kids if you can’t support them by doing honest work— work that needs to be done. If you have to sell your soul in order to have kids, maybe the deal isn’t worth making. If you have to lick the Man’s shoes in order to have kids, maybe the deal isn’t worth making.
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A Nation of Scabs is one of my favorite paper of Miles. Pretty cool that Miles has covered the forces/thinking behind most social/cultural ailments of our society.
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Stephen said:
Oh, I love that paper, especially the treatment on inflation at the end which is quite relevant currently. To think, it’s been roughly 5 years since then… if the US CPI numbers as they were counted in 1990, the current rate of over 8% would be closer to 12%, and counted with 1980-era CPI would be over 17%.
Food prices alone have almost doubled since 2017, I think, here in the US. Inflation benefits those who take on large amounts of debt (usually to buy up assets, and if those lose value they go bankrupt and start over) because the amount owed doesn’t get adjusted for inflation, and hurts workers, savers and pensioners.
According to them, some inflation (spurred by money printing) is necessary to “increase velocity” or encourage consumer spending, while deflation would hurt investors and slow the economy. I’m not the only one who considers this large-scale theft. It and usury are 2 of the phoenies’ playbook to turn everyone into scabs that can’t reasonably pursue their true calling in life because they’re pinned down.
They’re also strung along by “raises” which are 1-5%, barely enough for parity with inflation, working harder for the same value. If you luck out with small business or consultancy, you get killed off by COVID psyops.
People started coming together on this stuff back in the Occupy Wall Street day but that got compromised and now everyone hates each other over artificial racial and other social divisions amplified by propaganda.
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miles mathis said:
I think the Depp/Heard feud is manufactured for the same reason. These actors want us acting like them and hating eachother. THrowing Vodka bottles at eachother and putting cigs out on one another’s faces. The Hollywood couples feuding going back decades was always probably about that.
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pjj said:
If you search “ticket taker” or “ticket” on voxday’s website, he has lots of interesting articles [But lots of misdirection as well around the central truth. He is compromised, in case you din’t know]
Here is another interesting long write-up from Curtis Yarvin [a right-winger, compromised], regarding selling out:
“The manager of a fruit-and-vegetable shop places in his window, among the onions and carrots, the slogan: “Workers of the world, unite!” Why does he do it? What is he trying to communicate to the world? Is he genuinely enthusiastic about the idea of unity among the workers of the world? Is his enthusiasm so great that he feels an irrepressible impulse to acquaint the public with his ideals? Has he really given more than a moment’s thought to how such a unification might occur and what it would mean?
I think it can safely be assumed that the overwhelming majority of shopkeepers never think about the slogans they put in their windows, nor do they use them to express their real opinions. That poster was delivered to our greengrocer from the enterprise headquarters along with the onions and carrots. He put them all into the window simply because it has been done that way for years, because everyone does it, and because that is the way it has to be. If he were to refuse, there could be trouble. He could be reproached for not having the proper decoration in his window; someone might even accuse him of disloyalty. He does it because these things must be done if one is to get along in life. It is one of the thousands of details that guarantee him a relatively tranquil life “in harmony with society,” as they say.
Obviously the greengrocer . . . does not put the slogan in his window from any personal desire to acquaint the public with the ideal it expresses. This, of course, does not mean that his action has no motive or significance at all, or that the slogan communicates nothing to anyone. The slogan is really a sign, and as such it contains a subliminal but very definite message. Verbally, it might be expressed this way: “I, the greengrocer XY, live here and I know what I must do. I behave in the manner expected of me. I can be depended upon and am beyond reproach. I am obedient and therefore I have the right to be left in peace.” This message, of course, has an addressee: it is directed above, to the greengrocer’s superior, and at the same time it is a shield that protects the greengrocer from potential informers. The slogan’s real meaning, therefore, is rooted firmly in the greengrocer’s existence. It reflects his vital interests. But what are those vital interests?
Let us take note: if the greengrocer had been instructed to display the slogan “I am afraid and therefore unquestioningly obedient;” he would not be nearly as indifferent to its semantics, even though the statement would reflect the truth. The greengrocer would be embarrassed and ashamed to put such an unequivocal statement of his own degradation in the shop window, and quite naturally so, for he is a human being and thus has a sense of his own dignity. To overcome this complication, his expression of loyalty must take the form of a sign which, at least on its textual surface, indicates a level of disinterested conviction. It must allow the greengrocer to say, “What’s wrong with the workers of the world uniting?” Thus the sign helps the greengrocer to conceal from himself the low foundations of his obedience, at the same time concealing the low foundations of power. It hides them behind the facade of something high. And that something is ideology.
Ideology is a specious way of relating to the world. It offers human beings the illusion of an identity, of dignity, and of morality while making it easier for them to part with them. As the repository of something suprapersonal and objective, it enables people to deceive their conscience and conceal their true position and their inglorious modus vivendi, both from the world and from themselves. It is a very pragmatic but, at the same time, an apparently dignified way of legitimizing what is above, below, and on either side. It is directed toward people and toward God. It is a veil behind which human beings can hide their own fallen existence, their trivialization, and their adaptation to the status quo. It is an excuse that everyone can use, from the greengrocer, who conceals his fear of losing his job behind an alleged interest in the unification of the workers of the world, to the highest functionary, whose interest in staying in power can be cloaked in phrases about service to the working class. The primary excusatory function of ideology, therefore, is to provide people, both as victims and pillars of the post-totalitarian system, with the illusion that the system is in harmony with the human order and the order of the universe…
The post-totalitarian system touches people at every step, but it does so with its ideological gloves on. This is why life in the system is so thoroughly permeated with hypocrisy and lies: government by bureaucracy is called popular government; the working class is enslaved in the name of the working class; the complete degradation of the individual is presented as his ultimate liberation; depriving people of information is called making it available; the use of power to manipulate is called the public control of power, and the arbitrary abuse of power is called observing the legal code; the repression of culture is called its development; the expansion of imperial influence is presented as support for the oppressed; the lack of free expression becomes the highest form of freedom; farcical elections become the highest form of democracy; banning independent thought becomes the most scientific of world views; military occupation becomes fraternal assistance. Because the regime is captive to its own lies, it must falsify everything. It falsifies the past. It falsifies the present, and it falsifies the future. It falsifies statistics. It pretends not to possess an omnipotent and unprincipled police apparatus. It pretends to respect human rights. It pretends to persecute no one. It pretends to fear nothing. It pretends to pretend nothing.
Individuals need not believe all these mystifications, but they must behave as though they did, or they must at least tolerate them in silence, or get along well with those who work with them. For this reason, however, they must live within a lie. They need not accept the lie. It is enough for them to have accepted their life with it and in it. For by this very fact, individuals confirm the system, fulfill the system, make the system, are the system.
Why in fact did our greengrocer have to put his loyalty on display in the shop window? Had he not already displayed it sufficiently in various internal or semipublic ways? At trade union meetings, after all, he had always voted as he should. He had always taken part in various competitions. He voted in elections like a good citizen. He had even signed the “antiCharter.” Why, on top of all that, should he have to declare his loyalty publicly? After all, the people who walk past his window will certainly not stop to read that, in the greengrocer’s opinion, the workers of the world ought to unite. The fact of the matter is, they don’t read the slogan at all, and it can be fairly assumed they don’t even see it. If you were to ask a woman who had stopped in front of his shop what she saw in the window, she could certainly tell whether or not they had tomatoes today, but it is highly unlikely that she noticed the slogan at all, let alone what it said.
It seems senseless to require the greengrocer to declare his loyalty publicly. But it makes sense nevertheless. People ignore his slogan, but they do so because such slogans are also found in other shop windows, on lampposts, bulletin boards, in apartment windows, and on buildings; they are everywhere, in fact. They form part of the panorama of everyday life. Of course, while they ignore the details, people are very aware of that panorama as a whole. And what else is the greengrocer’s slogan but a small component in that huge backdrop to daily life?
Let us now imagine that one day something in our greengrocer snaps and he stops putting up the slogans merely to ingratiate himself. He stops voting in elections he knows are a farce. He begins to say what he really thinks at political meetings. And he even finds the strength in himself to express solidarity with those whom his conscience commands him to support. In this revolt the greengrocer steps out of living within the lie. He rejects the ritual and breaks the rules of the game. He discovers once more his suppressed identity and dignity. He gives his freedom a concrete significance. His revolt is an attempt to live within the truth. . . .
The bill is not long in coming. He will be relieved of his post as manager of the shop and transferred to the warehouse. His pay will be reduced. His hopes for a holiday in Bulgaria will evaporate. . .”
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pjj said:
My mistake, that is Yarvin quoting from the book The Power of the Powerless
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suntzufighting said:
Hundreds of people respond to Jar-Head. Right. That is a delusion of grandeur.
He has to administer great psychological harm. Via keyboard. More delusion.
They never forget. Projection.
All embedded in the dreaded wall-of-text, one of the gamma tells according to Mr Day.
This is the first time I request that someone be banned from anything. Wether it happens or not I am not going to read any of his posts.
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Jared Magneson said:
Tell us you’ve never been online without telling us you’ve never been online, Sunny. Evidently this is the only forum you’ve ever been to?
Talking to thousands of people is a daily thing, Sun. I’m sorry you missed the Industrial Revolution but there’s nothing delusional about it. Yes, hundreds of people respond to me every day – just like everyone else online, except you apparently.
And I’d apologize about my “walls of text” being too difficult for you to comprehend but you wouldn’t get to this part since it’s too wally and too texty and your word-count is stuck at 33 or less. Next time just say you’re illiterate.
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Swathy Krishna said:
Gosh guys, this is so embarrassing. This “feud” can be resolved in 5 minutes by LETTING IT GO. Reserve the hate for the real enemies please. They’re probably laughing watching you two. Or three now, it seems like.
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Jared Magneson said:
GOSH. They’re laughing? Do you mean the Royal They, or the urban sense of the word?
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Sounds like NPD to me. The internet is their happy place.
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suntzufighting said:
Is the worm turning, or more wormtongueing?
This “former” Blackrock analyst calls out the covid fraud.
Part of the script, or internecine family feud?
https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/wall-street-analyst-covid-vaccines-greatest-fraud-in-history
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rolleikin said:
Anyone who can’t see who the troll is here is either an idiot or lying. Here’s a hint: He just boasted that he has infuriated hundreds of people on the internet (blaming it all on them, of course),
Yes, I have written harsh words at and about him. I don’t like boors, bullies and fakes. I think more people agreed with me than those few who had the courage to say so. But, maybe I’m wrong about that.
If those who run this forum want to keep him around to harass posters here, that’s their business. And, if they want me to leave, that’s fine too. It has pretty much ceased to be enjoyable to post here anyway because of him and life is too short to waste it on forum trolls.
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Gijs said:
I thought you were also sort of Ok with him: when somebody else complained last year about the ‘feud’ between you two, you said something along the lines of: Don’t take us too seriously, we’re just frollicing (if I remember correctly), maybe you were just keeping up the spirit?
I myself found it at some points quite funny that apparently grown-ups are getting paid to ‘infiltrate’ this forum, but just couldn’t get past Jared with his big mouth – like with the new version of Tony Martin a month ago, what the #@$% happened there by the way…??
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Jared Magneson said:
Well considering I am the one who called out New Tony, and not one thing has changed about my style or my “mouth”, it’s pretty silly to be whining about it now. I’ve always been caustic and curt. Not just here, but everywhere and in my entire life. Scroll back to the very beginning of this forum and you’ll find nothing has changed, there.
But yeah, the Tony thing was pretty strange. He still never responded to any of that.
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rolleikin said:
“I thought you were also sort of Ok with him…”
What can I say? I tried to take the high road for a time. I even found some things about him to complement or validate. But, I guess my good nature in the face of irrational hostility has its limits. 🙂
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rolleikin said:
@ Gijs
My reply went “to moderation.” If we are lucky, it will show up in a few days. 🙂
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notabaron said:
too much this
not enough this
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Jared Magneson said:
@Notabaron:
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Greg said:
So I take it you two won’t be reigniting the page long debate of whether or not the Russian helicopter crash was real or cgi?
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Jared Magneson said:
Wait, how did it ever even end? We’re not still doing that one?
That was the best one ever, though! Remember way back when it all started? And how much we’ve all GROWN, along the way! Aww, man. The FEELS.
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Jared Magneson said:
Another case of the THREES? Given all the other fake shipperies we’ve seen lately and Miles’ explosion of the Bounty and Titanic, is this their way of… Responding? With an even more transparent fake?
Next up: the HMS Stanley will be recovered along with my long-lost Stanley™ tape measure inside, fully intact.
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Thomas said:
The ship Vasa was the result of poor design, actually no design for this type of ship was available in Sweden. A standard ship was ordered by the King, later changed to
a double gun deck ship, tons of not needed decorations was added, all was in a hurry to satisfy the King and in the end totally useless. A simple stability test was carried out
in the harbor by the Captain, but his comments was overruled.
https://www.simscale.com/blog/2017/12/vasa-ship-sank/
Some also claim, that they complete forgot to load the ballast for the ship.
https://www.simscale.com/blog/2017/12/vasa-ship-sank/
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Jared Magneson said:
It’s just bananas, how blatant these things are once you see them in the Light. A wooden vessel underwater for 333 years looks better than some of my two-year-old garden beds, despite constant care. Testament to the perfection of their shipwrights, or to the absolute failure of Thompson’s Water Seal? =P
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Chris Ryska said:
@ Jared M. Perfect example of how dumb they think we are {or want us to be}. It actually defies intuition.
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t0clock said:
Moderation doing overtime lately
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rolleikin said:
Yes
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Not enough moderation, imho.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
I say that with sarcasm. Seems like about half my posts never see the light of day.
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t0clock said:
“https://www.ranker.com/list/what-happened-in-the-shipwreck-and-on-the-raft-of-the-medusa/tamar-altebarmakian”
“https://www.rarebookhub.com/articles/2231?page=2”
RE boats & mutiny
I find the Medusa Shipwreck (July 1816) one hell of a (jelly-fishy…) tale. The account of that story made such an impression on the public at the time, with its tragic and horrifying details, that Théodore Géricault (=>Jericho, same thing phonetically) thought it would make a great Romantic art piece, which he started painting in… 1818.
About the name of the ship, the Medusa : there is a French adjective, “médusé” (= petrified, stupefied). No doubt that the huge 16 ft 1 x 23 ft 6 inches oil painting by Géricault, exhibited in Le Louvre museum, was meant to cause long lasting effects on the minds of its viewers.
Another coincidence is the name of the Port de Rochefort, with the surname of that mystery passenger, Richefort, who alleged misguided the captain of the frigate, Hugues Duroy de Chaumareys, himself described as an ‘incompetent and complacent’ lousy French naval officer (apparently much worse than infamous, farcical Captain Schettino-cretino scapegoat in the more recent Costa Concordia disaster in 2012).
A movie of the same title as the painting, Le Radeau de la Méduse (with big French actors Jean Yanne and Claude Jade, etc.), was started in 1987 but took over 10 years to be distributed, for obscure reasons. It still hasn’t been released on dvd and is very hard to find online to this day. All I could find was a short documentary-report with interviews of some of the actors in costumes on the film set. Another ‘radeau en rade’?
“https://youtu.be/Xw0DCEU5NVo”
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Graham said:
Any use?
“https://www.justwatch.com/fr/film/le-radeau-de-la-meduse”
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t0clock said:
@Graham Thanks, in the meantime I did a better search and found it watchable straightaway on ok . ru (good for the more ‘obscure’ classics). Still, too many of those never released -or no longer available- on dvd.
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pjj said:
So Musk has been in the news for causing chaos at Twitter and making a bid for it. Both the left and right think this is take control of speech/censorhip, but that seems like a cover. I wonder what miles’ take on it is?
Related, Bill Gates is shorting Tesla and screenshots of that conversation with Musk were revealed: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517702987359133696
That conversation is fake, it is incredible people eat it up. You think these rich billionaires take their privacy so lightly as to send screenshots of private conversation to “friends of friends”? Also remember Musk tried to shutdown the Twitter account which was trying to track his private jet. Who knows, the private jet tracking account might be on the con too.
Second, that leaked conversation between the two is trying to sell Spacex as real.
Last random thought, watched Tinder Swindler. The fake is so bad, I fell asleep 45 minutes into the documentary. How do people even believe any of that happened? The level of intimate details we are shared is incredible. Jaw dropping. And the decent looking female victims. Are we supposed to believe that such wordly, strong independent women can’t tell a nigerian prince type scam? Ridiculous, fake and disgusting. The movie is of course trying to tell girls that anybody showing you affection or romance or spending lavishly on you is a guy not to be trusted. And on another hand. trying to tell guys that girls only fall for the rich extravagant lavish kind of guys and all girls are golddiggers.
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notabaron said:
anything they want eyes on is fake. all eyes on twitter. keep it relevant. either to steer it to the right or pull out the old “we need government regulations” con.
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suntzufighting said:
You lasted 45 minutes?
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t0clock said:
✡️ 🦅 💍
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10745767/Brooklyn-Beckham-flashes-new-wedding-ring-latest-cooking-video-calling-Poke-bowl-snack.html
Here it is again, top nepotism mediocr-illuminaty shoved down our throats, mean to be hated by the public. Billionnaire son-of footballer D.Beckham, tattooed and dressed like a pleb (as all spawns, instructed to do so by their masters), now demands to become a top cooking ‘chef’, like some sort of diluted Jamie Oliver (for even more ‘creative’ crappy pub food, good enough for the the ‘lazy’, brainwashed new generation). At least J.Oliver was able to articulate a complete sentence that would make some sense, and he had the ‘Pukka’ catchphrase going for him (or not)… so what’s it going to be for this new genius offspring?
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t0clock said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3734691/Brooklyn-Beckham-17-displays-growing-biceps-leaves-cycling-class-famous-father-David.html
Looks like he’s gay too, like his dad, both with J-wish beard wives. Wearing ‘GayPride’ printed vests with word ‘Butt’ on the back.
D. Beckham promoted all-pink products (including pink p00f perfume), was pictured in manbaths, ‘rear play, sitting on balls, and very close to Tom Cruise on several occasions.
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t0clock said:
An ast but not least, about D.Becham’s wife :
Victoria’s great-great-great-grandfather Carl Pfaender was a Communist revolutionary who was a colleague of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
http://ethnicelebs.com/victoria-beckham
Comrade billionnaire Victoria Adams-Beckham, aka ‘Posh Spice Girl’.
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t0clock said:
An last but not least, about D.Becham’s wife :
Victoria’s great-great-great-grandfather Carl Pfaender was a Communist revolutionary who was a colleague of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
“http://ethnicelebs.com/victoria-beckham”
Comrade billionnaire Victoria Adams-Beckham, aka ‘Posh Spice Girl’.
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Philip Cox said:
What we really need this year is a paper on Mao and the Chicoms.
therabbithole.wiki site that was linked here a few days ago reminded me of how the propaganda is shifting to the predicted fake alt-right revolution that is coming. Half the books on that site are written by Theosophists, fake Anti-Semites, and those 19th century British-Israelist goons. Skimming through these book covers sparked a thought, that these BI goons have to be cut from the same cloth as the Mormons.
The other half looks like total misdirection about Communism. I noticed on Zerohedge yesterday a commenter who was trying to deny Marx was a J-word, pushing the whole Jesuit conspiracy angle per usual. Seeing how hard they are trying to push the Communism/China boogeyman lately, they could be prepping the populace for a fake war with China, perhaps after Season 2 of The New Normal wraps up in Ukraine.
They have a sore spot on the cat being out of the bag that Communism was a project of J-word European capitalists. If they are going to pin the blame on Leftists for everything that happened in the past century, then they have to keep the Commie boogieman alive. We should go all Scooby Doo on them.
I’ll get it rolling. It’s said Mao was born in the village of Shaoshan. Per wiki:
“Shaoshan enjoys a long history. As the legend goes, there was once a king named Shundi who happened to pass here during his southward inspection. He was so fascinated with the landscape here that he played the Music of Shao (韶乐), which summoned many phoenixes and other birds to accompany him. Thus was Shaoshan named for the Music of Shao. It was under the jurisdiction of the state of Chu in the ancient times.[5]”
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Sunshine said:
Good Philip. To build on this, we also have a general Jakob Rosenfeld who was Minister of Health in the Provisional Communist Military Government of China under Mao. From 1941 he served the Chinese Communist force as a field doctor and often performed surgery in a small boat. The general Rosenfeld left China in 1949, the year of the establishment of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), founded by Chairman Mao.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Rosenfeld
Jakob Rosenfeld, like Chinese military physician and politician Richard Frey (Stein), and other 20,000 Jewish refugees in dire straits, all but made outstanding contributions to China’s revolution and fought for its national independence, straight from Shanghai Ghetto as you do.
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Gerry said:
Jakob Rosenfeld was one of the first biographies that I researched myself after reading Miles, and it pushed me over the edge. He grew up on the grounds of an Austrian weapons factory, and his father was the director. He was tortured in a Nazi concentration camp, but then set free because “they couldn’t break him”. Then he emigrated to China, and became instant-rich again. Then he was a Communist leader. It’s all so ridiculous… 😂
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Victor said:
Wow, didn’t know this. Just throw away the ‘a’ and you get Shoshan, the ancient capital of the kings of Persia. See pp. 11-12 in GBN3 (http://mileswmathis.com/gbn3.pdf):
The ANU Museum of the Jewish People tells us the following about the surname Sassoon/Sasson:
The surname Sassoun can be derived from Shushan, which is Suza, the ancient
capital of the kings of Persia (Daniel 8.2, Esther 1.2), Shoshan.
The Sassoon family is related to the Rothschilds and we can read the following in the section Related family papers at The Rothschild Archive:
The Sassoon family, known as ‘Rothschilds of the East’ due to the great wealth they accumulated, is of Baghdadi Jewish descent. The family were based in Baghdad, Iraq, before moving to Bombay, India and then to China, England, and other countries. It is said that the family descended from the Shoshans, one of the families of Iberian Peninsula. From the 18th century, the Sassoons were one of the wealthiest families in the world, with a merchant empire spanning the continent of Asia […] As the company expanded it set up branches in India (Calcutta, Karatchi), in China (Hongkong, Canton, Hankow, Shanghai), Japan (Kobe, Nagasaki, Yokohama), in the Persian Gulf (Baghdad) and in the United Kingdom (London, Manchester) […]
Busted, Mao!
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Sunshine said:
Shao (Shaoyue) music was the best of ancient Chinese court music:
‘According to historical records, Shao music has the power to move and fascinate audience. A legend goes that Emperor Shundi was besieged by brave ethnic Miao tribesmen when traveling through the mountains of central-south China. But the ethnic Miaos dropped their weapons and danced when Shundi’s men played them Shao music.‘
WORD or NAME
Miao tribe: is it a bird? Is it a boat? A bull?
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Sunshine said:
The story of the mythical emperor Shao Hao, his country and how different birds symbolise different aspects of the country’s life:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/86227971/The-Country-of-Shao-Hao
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kocotube01 začasni said:
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A Spirit said:
IF this photo is indeed his mother’s, she ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Qimei ) looks kind of like a Jewish/Indian mix. This is not an average Chinese face, is it?
In very early photos of Mao, where he has a lot of hair, he also looks Indian/Pakistani/Nepalese or something. Only problem is that these photos are obviously repainted or fake, or whatever. This one is an example (from wiki):
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Fitzmar said:
The ruling dynasties of China were and still are Jewish.
This guy pointed out to many interesting things about this subject in recent times.
“https://www.bitchute.com/video/1T4KhSetVi4J/”
However it has been centuries that the ruling dynasties of China were and still are Jewish. The Yuan dynasty for instance intermarried with Comnene/Bagratid/Palaiologos Families:
“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nogai_Khan”
I believe all Asian countries such as India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, ..etc. are ruled by Jewish families since at least a thousand years.
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Raymond D. said:
I believe EurAsia has been Phoeny for well over 2000 years. I don’t think it was a coincidence that all those Ancient Empires sprung up around the same time and on opposite sides of the continent.
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Fitzmar said:
Yes I agree Raymond. The Romans and Persians ruling families were fighting although they were intermarrying with each other, similar to US and USSR or US and Russia. Not a coincidence of course but the same old book of politics.
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Kieran said:
This was published last year, and is the best I have found so far: https://fitzinfo.net/2021/07/19/how-jews-took-over-china-an-created-chinese-communism/
It begins with a history of the Kaifeng Jews and includes many historical newspaper articles to make its point. It doesn’t focus on Mao so much as Jewish infiltration throughout history (starting in the 8th century) up to the present day, but there is a section on Mao and the communist revolution. For instance:
It includes an extensive list of 92 footnotes.
One important difference to note between the East and the West is historical attitude towards Jews. Whereas in the West there have been pervasive racial tensions anywhere Jews and Europeans have cohabitated (Kevin MacDonald suggests that European antisemitism has historically been a kind of cultural immune response to competition with a hostile ethnic group), Asian cultures tend to regard Jews positively because they want to emulate their wealth and influence. An example from South Korea, from JEWISH SEOUL: AN ANALYSIS OF PHILO- AND ANTISEMITISM IN SOUTH KOREA:
You can see this Asian attitude towards Jews reflected in many of the newspaper excerpts cited in the article.
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Kieran said:
My post went to moderation, but see here: https://fitzinfo.net/2021/07/19/how-jews-took-over-china-an-created-chinese-communism/
(and see my commentary whenever it gets fished out of moderation).
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Thomas said:
Thanks Kiera, a great page.
We all know who supported and financed the Russian revolutions, but not much has been available about how China became communists. As Mao had a good relationship with Lenin and Stalin, we can only guess that the same banksters who financed Russia also did so with China.
In 1920 20,000 Bolsheviks was send to China to start the communist agenda.
So, Mao coming from a poor farmer family, the usual nonsense story.
It’s no surprise to see all the Chinese students in America and Europe, all navy people.
Also a surprise to learn how many Jews are living in China, actually the real world number must be very high, not the 2-3% we always read about.
More to read now and much more to learn.
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Thomas said:
Thanks Kieran, great information in your link.
Also the comment section is interesting, about the North Korea ruler.
https://www.dailynk.com/english/soviet-officer-reveals-secrets-of/
Now we just have to see if the story about Vashti wife of King Ahasuerus is true,
to know if the navy also ruled Persia/Iran in old times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vashti
Looking forward to your commentary from your post.
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Gerry said:
毛 Máo puns with 冒 mào “fake”. It’s in fact one of the most common Chinese words for fakery, as in 冒牌 màopái “counterfeit products”. The first name may be a pun as well.
I may be able to publish a few Chicom puns in my next update, plus perhaps even some pun-decrypted lines from Confucius.
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Gerry said:
Wow, Mao’s entire family seems to be 冒 mao “fake”. 😮 Here’s my first take on them:
毛澤東 Máo Zédōng himself puns with 冒姿働 mào zī dòng “feigning the appearance of a worker”. The last character is a a non-Chinese Japanese character for “labor”!
One of of Mao’s “brothers” is 冒澤民 Máo Zémín, which puns with 冒姿民 mào zī mín “feigning the manners of the people”.
The other of of Mao’s “brothers” is 冒澤覃 Máo Zétán, perhaps a pun with 冒姿亶 mào zī dǎn “feigning a sincere appearance”.
The name of Mao’s adopted “sister” is 冒澤建 Máo Zéjiàn, which puns with 冒姿賤 mào zī jiàn “feigning plebeian manners”.
The name of Mao’s “mother” is 文七妹 Wén Qīmèi, which may be a pun with 文氣沒 wénqì méi “no [more] refined [manners]”.
The name of Mao’s “father” is 冒貽昌 Máo Yíchāng, which puns with 冒遺產 mào yíchǎn “fake legacy”, i.e. a fake genealogy.
The name of Mao’s “grandfather” is 毛恩普 Máo Ēnpǔ, which puns with 冒案譜 mào àn pǔ “fake records & registers”.
One of Mao’s epithets is 大舵手 dà duòshǒu “the great helmsman”, which may be a pun with 大毒手 dà dúshǒu “the great treachery”.
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Meri Perkins said:
Interesting, Chinese like that sort of thing, their language and superstitions rife w/it.
You learn it when looking at traditional symbols:peaches, bats, swans, etc. (words w/ homologous sounds)
Do you suppose Chinese have their own brand of conspiracy theorists?
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Jared Magneson said:
So to a Chinese person, would their ruler’s name be outright, “Fake”, in translation?
Is it similar in nature to “Trump” being a president, with a name that means “to beat or do someone better”, for example? Or “Biden” with the so-often unspoken connection to “biding time”?
I’m genuinely curious about how a Chinese person might perceive “Mao” as a leader’s name. Puppet?
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Jared Magneson said:
For some context, I’ve been watching “Foundation”, a show based loosely on Isaac Asimov’s (spooky but devastating) sci-fi novels from decades long gone. In the show, but not in the BOOKS mind you, which are set many millennia into the future, the emperor of the galaxy is actually three clones of an ancestor, each at different ages. Dawn, Day, and Dusk. It’s very interesting from a fiction standpoint.
But they call their emperors EMPIRE. Not Cleon I, but literally Empire is their honorific. Not Emperor, but Empire. The men ARE the empire. It’s rather original for a modern sci-fi show and other than a few annoying Wokenesses (Salvor Hardin being a young black woman, as opposed to a middle-aged man in the books) it’s pretty damn good.
But do the Chinese folk literally call their ruler, “Fake” or “Facade”? I mean, is that what it means to THEM?
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Lewis reid said:
I have heard that the Chinese for Cat and Hat are very similar to Mao, I don’t what Dr. Seuss would say…
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Gerry said:
@Meri, @Jared: No, 毛 máo is pronounced with a different tone than 冒 mào, note the accent. For a Chinese, there would be no mistaking the two. 澤 zé and 姿 zī are even different phonemes. Even if you keep the phoneme and change the tone, then Chinese has so many natural homonyms, that such similarities occur everywhere by coincidence. There are of course many official Chinese puns, but they are usually very harmless, Chinese humor generally is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophonic_puns_in_Standard_Chinese
Mao has been revered like a god for several generations now. The worst that people say about him is that “he made mistakes”. No Chinese, not even critics, would even dare to think that there’s anything fake about him or other revolutionaries. Generally, most Chinese are genuinely thankful towards the communist party overall.
I dare say that’s because communism was really a big improvement for most common Chinese people over the feudal system before, and the new current capitalist system has again improved the lives of most people over communism. That may be true even if you account for horrible things like the Great Leap Forward famine, or the civil war-like Cultural Revolution. But times of hunger & famine were already part of life in feudal China, as were times of unrest & violence. What’s more, communism has given the common & poor people some dignity: In the feudal system, they were officially regarded as dirt, while communism at least paid lip service to treating them as equals. And they couldn’t even look up to their old nobility, because those couldn’t defend the country at all against the Western & Japanese invaders.
That so many famous names, and even entire texts, would have a nasty double meaning, in any language, is AFAIK solely my own theory. Built on foundations laid by Miles, of course.
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Gijs said:
Don’t know much about China, but I came across this guy from Holland: Henk Sneevliet. He was soo poor the Masonic Lodge had to pay for his education (?). He started communistic party after party, also in the Dutch Indies, then Lenin send him to China (?) to meet Mao, and he helped establish the Whampoa Militairy Academy.
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Gijs said:
And I came across this – You couldn’t have made it up:
Mao’s Red Book was ghostwritten by [Israel Epstein] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Epstein) who was also a reporter of WW II in China and, according to Wiki, faked his own death to get the Japanese off his tail.
source was https://www.cabaltimes.com/2022/05/05/is-china-on-the-verge-of-economic-collapse/
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AYV said:
Former Trump CDC director warns of pandemic worse than covid https://americanyellowvest.wpcomstaging.com/2022/04/24/former-trump-cdc-director-warns-of-pandemic-worse-than-covid/
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Swathy Krishna said:
Zombies in Canada this time folks, phoeinies are taking a rain check on the alien invasion.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
American Yellow Vest… Weren’t the French “Jolly Johns” fake? The whole, “Something big’s coming!!!l shtick is pure QAnon.
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t0clock said:
The ‘Gilles-est-Jaune’ movement was manufactured and meant to scare, bully and make the actual protesters waste their time, tire them out. Right from the beginning, the ‘protestors’ included mayors and elected people (local and low-shelf phoenies in even the smallest town halls stand in groups on roundabouts all day for about 2 years, to p1ss off normal citizens/drivers. After all that nothing changed, zilch, nada.
Roundabouts, what better way to make the plebs go round and round and round in circles. And isn’t yellow also the colour of deceit and betrayal, according to some beliefs?
Here’s today’s ‘warning’ that maybe something could happen in a few hours (maybe the abduction of Macrown by an alien, if the French are lucky?): https://newsrnd.com/news/2022-04-24-presidential-2022–the-american-embassy-advises-its-nationals-to-avoid-the-big-cities-this-weekend.BJotJcfSq.html
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Thomas said:
Could it be something about election fraud, as Macron won this time again?
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Thomas said:
If you are French and had received a damaged ballot paper, it will not count.
In France, for a ballot paper to be counted, it must be free of all traces (writing in pen, tearing of the paper, etc.) The government has sent ballot papers from Marine Le Pen which has a tear, and which will not be counted for the final results.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CvcCMqRfdiV9/
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t0clock said:
@Thomas All part of the plan, Macrown is a Rot(ten)child globalist puppet, placed to complete his mission of chaos and destruction no matter what. There might be a false flag riot to justify even more repressive measures against the population, and with ‘French’ governors having quite a reputation and taste for sadism, on top of devious tactics and maneuvers…such as when French people were allowed to move up to 100 kilometres (60 miles) around their residence without a ‘justification form’, during the Co(n)vid, and movement beyond 100 kms still needed a ‘justification form’: it was basically a copy-paste/reference to 0rwell 1984, Part 2 Chapter 2: “For distances of less than 100 kilometers, it was not necessary to get your passport endorsed”. Did any other country enforce that pathetic rule?
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Philip Cox said:
When they bused in BLM actors to my town, they were led to the roundabout in the town center and marched around the circle a few times. They looked foolish being led around by the nose in circles like that. All it accomplished were the gains they made using this typical divide and conquer stratagem.
On the ‘other side’, there’s a guy driving around in a truck decked out with the Confederate flag, but his horn makes the clown car sound when he drives around the circle. All this occurs under the shadow of a new restaurant that’s a former Oddfellows meeting hall, that is painted all black, and which has a giant bee wearing a crown painted on the building’s corner. Very creepy.
Oh and the biggest car dealership in town just built a slick new performing arts theater. Guess this town didn’t have enough actors in it already. They possibly tried to pull off a active shooter scenario at the courthouse here a few weeks ago, but it was buried in the news and didn’t go anywhere.
But I gotta continue. The restaurant is called Agave & Rye, which is also a tequila bar. Agave was used to make the alcoholic beverage pulque and later tequila. Wiki says the Hohokam people of the Phoenix city region cultivated large areas of it using a sophisticated irrigation system. There was a link here posted about a week ago, showing Phoenician DNA admixture was found in some Pima/Hohokam/O’odham tribes. They were also known as international traders for the Southwest region.
Gosh that makes it, what.. five cultures/nations around the globe that I found evidence of Phoenicians cultivating alcohol in a new region. After the restaurant was built, the town conveniently passed an ordinance allowing open containers downtown. The firebird and the firewater go hand in hand.
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Philip Cox said:
Per the other post still stuck in auto-moderation.
On the ‘Did the Phoenicians colonize America?’ question, came across this book by a Civil War era U.S. Congressman Martin Ingham Townsend, titled Prehistoric Structures of Central America – Who built them?, arguing that the Phoenicians built them. What’s interesting is that after clicking through about a dozen bios of him online, not a single one mentions this book he wrote. An angry mob did burn his house down though. Copy is found here. It’s rather short at only 40 pdf pages.
https://archive.org/details/prehistoricstruc00town
He concludes that the natives wiped out the colonizers, but doesn’t give a time-frame. It could also be the reason why the Carthaginian Senate banned anyone else from going thereafter, as their annihilation was total.
Perhaps that’s why European phoneys were so prejudiced against the American Natives (See Miles recent paper on the HMS Bounty). Their main strategy of taking over native populations was to infiltrate and take them over from within, and not annihilate them completely as what happened here.
While getting a haircut, found this.
Calalus: A Roman Jewish colony in America from the time of Charlemagne through Alfred the Great by Cyclone Covey. What a name.
https://prabook.com/web/cyclone.covey/1666001
This site seems to sum it up, but also builds on it. Very, very interesting:
https://conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/entries/show/42278989-calalus-a-jewish-catholic-state-in-early-medieval-america
A preview:
“In the 1920’s in Tucson Arizona were found objects and writings in Latin, Greek and Hebrew with both Catholic and Jewish ritual objects and symbols. Cyclone Covey describes this discovery in his book “Calalus: A Roman Jewish colony in America from the time of Charlemagne through Alfred the Great”. Covey and other researchers are amazed at the mixture of Jewish, Christian and Kabbalistic objects and symbols. However this very much fits this period in the 8th century when in the Carolingian Empire there is a Jewish Principality in southern France called Septimania ruled by Theodoric of Narbonne (Makhir Todros ben Judah/Magnario/Aimeri/Amer) [born 710 died 765]. Many members of this family descended from the Exilarchs of Babylon embraced a Jewish form of Catholicism while other members remained outwardly orthodox Jews
The Calalus records speak of a Theodorus as the leader of many peoples who leave the Roman lands for Calalus in 775 AD. Covey and others believe that Theodorus is a Jewish leader in the city of Rome. However this is a too literal reading of the term Rome. Theodorus is none other than the Jewish King of Septimania – a Roman Jewish state in southern France. He is the son of the first Jewish King of Septimania also called Theodoric (Theuderic/Thierry/Aimeri de Narbonne/ Makhir Todros). Theodorus (Dietrich/Theodoric/Amery l’Chetif/Nehemiah/Namon/ Aumer ben Aumer) is also known as Theodoric King of Saxony and as Namus Duke of Bavaria. He and his brothers were great Warrior Davidic princes of the time of Charlemagne. Professor Arthur Zuckerman in his book “A Jewish Princedom in Feudal France” confuses him with his father who bears the same Frankish names of Theuderic and Aimeri. On the death of his father Makhir Theodoric in about 765 AD Nehemiah Theodoric becomes the Western Exilarch and leader of all the Jews of the revived Western Roman Empire of Charlemagne”
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yergodslare3460 said:
2 goys(?) walk into a bar. Debate starts at 2:39:30.
https://odysee.com/@theralphretort:1/killstream-saturday-night-adam-green-vs-e-michael-jones:e
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
The press are giving the French election to Macaroon, following exit poll results being published. La Plume, the mermaid, didn’t stand a chance after poor performances at the hustings.
Didn’t matter which way the coin fell, as La Plume and Macaroon are just two sides of the same coin, and the sheeple will continue to be fleeced just as they always have been. The wise ones didn’t even bother to vote, or listen to the drivel spouted by the main actors. ‘Tis the way of the world in all Western style Shamocracies, and always has been.
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suntzufighting said:
This may strike you as obscure, but these cretins have toured the world with their act.
I smell the conclusion of a project. Judging by the massive promotion and German publicist it looks like another Intel op to undermine mores. Oh tempore, oh oy vay!
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/exposed-i-was-die-antwoords-child-slave-20220423
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