I’ve been meaning to create a post for all discussions related to viruses. Do they even exist? Do they cause disease? Are they just misunderstood or mislabeled exosomes? Does SARS-Cov-2 exist? So if you want to discuss any of these issues related to reality of SARS-CoV-2 or any other virus. This is your place. I will delete comments about it in other threads. To be clear, you can still post about the insanity related to the alleged pandemic on other threads, but if you want to debate whether that or any other virus is real or not, this is your place. If in doubt, just post here.
The reason I’m doing this is that some people seem to be very passionate about this issue and the discussions about it have started to dwarf what I view as more productive discussions about more pertinent issues.
I have made my opinions on this clear in several different comments, and at one point I may dig out those comments and add them to this post. I am not convinced by the arguments that germ theory is ass-backwards, though I still haven’t ruled out that it’s possible. I have also said that this debate is distracting us from focusing on fighting the Pharma Fascism that is quickly descending across the globe. In that way it is similar to the endless internecine debates within the 9/11 truth movement between the planned demolition, directed energy weapon and mini-nuke camps. To me it’s a distraction to keep us fighting among ourselves. And it works so well because, as a rule, we are people who really desire to know the truth about something, even when it is forever beyond our reach.
Cutting Through the Fog 
@3rd doorman
Ali : “Viruses don’t metabolise so they can’t channel charge.”
3rd doorman : “another basic misunderstanding you present, why don’t you go read Miles Mathis, I did. He doesn’t use the word metabolism to describe the proton.”
A basic misunderstanding for dishonesty.
Not a problem.
I was talking about photons in my last comment, not protons and i already know that protons do represent large quantities of photons(billions) being channeled since i’ve read Miles’s Work a lot 😉
Also let’s take a bet here in front of everyone if you dare :
It’s simple, ask Miles himself if charge channeling does equate to metabolism and post his answer here.
If he says ‘nope’ then as you say my understanding is basic.
If he agrees then your grasp is.
Also if you don’t do that in the near future, i will do it myself.
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Think of this as a recent postcard from the edge re: some of my recent & up-close covid observations.
First observation, from at least 50 years ago, is that i recall it was once common for people to say “ come in ( out of the bad/wet or wintry) weather ….. or you might catch your death of cold” …… just want to remind that it was once generally known that colds can lead to death.
Second observation: Ive been working in homecare for going on 6 years, this after a 30+ year career in tech support. I work for a small department of a rural nursing home that began it’s operation in 1904 as an outreach of a church that wanted to offer (mostly old) people, with little to nothing & nobody, a place to come and die with some dignity OR perhaps get well enough to return to their normal life.
A few weeks ago, a husband & wife couple in their mid-70’s , who have been regular clients ive been visiting for 2 years, came down with …. something that, to me, seemed like the onset of a typical cold / flu, this a few days after they had been out of the house together for the first time in a several years; a friend took them out to dinner followed by entertainment at a local, old-style theater. They each have been struggling for many years with their own increasing health issues that, among other things, severely limits their mobility – generally unable to stand/walk but can move their arms/legs enough to get onto & navigate inside their home via electric scooter and/or walk limited distances with a walker. I was happy for them they have friends who care enough to volunteer to do all the transport grunt & legwork required to get them into & out of their van while taking them out for a Friday night on the town.
When i visited them the following Monday, husband had already been coping with onset Sunday evening with feeling run down coupled with sniffles/sinus & bronchial congestion symptoms. By the time of visiting them Wednesday, his symptoms had gotten a bit worse – but no fever/chills/convulsions – and his wife had started exhibiting symptoms similar to his. They are both vacc’d & boosted while i remain neither. The friend brought them covid test kits OTC from a local pharmacy; they both tested positive.
Its now going on three weeks after those facts. They both followed traditional cold/flu advice ( drink plenty fluids while eating lightly while voiding big/heavy meals & junk foods) , get ample rest, and used OTC decongestants. Slowly, they seem to have gotten over whatever that was they “caught / came down with”. For now they no longer show any of those cold/flu symptoms. As i did both long before & now after these recent events, i had no such fallout and that despite being in mid-60’s with at least one significant co-morbidity in my recent history; 3 years ago i came close to being mostly dead all day forever BUT survived multiple cardiac arrests 🙂.
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The Chinese herbal remedy “Yin Chiao” is an effective treatment for flu symptoms. They go away in minutes. Make sure to get a formula without acetaminophen added (by FDA mandate to f#$k up a good thing), and use it generously.
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Third and final attempt to follow up with 3doorman re: Payso & Fritz.
htt ps://payseurs.com/fritz-springmeier/#comment-328
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Third and final attempt to follow up with 3doorman re: Payso & Fritz.
htt ps:/ / payseurs.com/fritz-springmeier/#comment-328
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Just thought I would pop back in here to point out that I wrote 120 papers this year, 95 on the art site. That’s around 3500 book pages (not PDF) which means I added another 10 volumes to my total, giving me something like 110 volumes on my virtual shelf. Oh, and there’s a new one that just went up.
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Charge channeling does drive metabolism, since it drives everything. So pay your bets now.
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@Miles, have you looked at the “virus” issue? What is your take atm?
Polio is a clear cut case of fakery by the elite, the “polio virus” is a ruse to cover up the use of pesticides/insecticides on fruits. People ate the poisoned fruit and got sick with “Polio” (polio is just your nervous system breaking down), it has nothing to do with a “virus”. The polio vaccin is said to have eradicated Polio, but it did no such thing, it only harmed and killed more people. Polio largely evaporated because they stopped and/or limited the use of those pesticides/insecticides.
This now my general understanding. I said in previous comments that if we would look at any disease supposedly caused by a “virus” we would find the actual cause to be something else… food for thought.
Not related to virus, but Frank Tufano recently made a video about lead paint*, saying that it was probably banned because of its shielding to radiation. I suggested the same might be true for asbestos (an excellent electric insulator). So the punies ban things that are actually helping people to stay healthy… maybe something to consider looking into some more. What else do they ban that is actually helping us?
*Frank on lead paint (YT)
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Tobacco, perhaps?
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a very light maybe, it could be that original tobacco (biologicial, no pesticides, no other crap) is not he worst thing to inhale. In the end, getting stuff in your lungs can not be good i guess… there are people that get 100 with smoking, my great grand mother did that…sooo.
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@ archer=d a belated cheers on your late great granny! Not that I’m recommending smoking, obviously.
Another one in answer to your question would be hemp. Especially fibre hemp as anything that can be made from oil and wood can also be made from fibre hemp. It only takes three months to grow and when doing so it gives back to the top soil. In warmer regions, crops grown in the spot where hemp has just been harvested, therefore do better. No need for pesticides, herbicides, and other crap! Just leave space in between individual seeds/plants for the sun and the wind and the charge.
Actually, since a while, fibre hemp has been re-legalized in various western countries, however, this has not yet lead to much of an industry. There are experiments/small projects in building using hemp concrete etc. But still no grand scale things.
Concerning the ‘other’ hemp, better known as cannabis or pot that people smoke or eat for all kinds of reasons, this was verboten too for a long time, and still is, in many places. Yet I think smoking a joint or tossing some of it in one’s smoothie does way less harm to the body and mind than most – if not all = medicines. Example: sleeping pills vs sativa pot when folks can’t sleep cos of too much convid related stress.
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DDT? It was helping to eradicate mosquitoes (and therefor malaria and typhoid etc) and was allegedly harmless to humans but was then banned after being allegedly found to be carcinogenic
I think i read recently somewhere there were other (hidden) reasons for it being banned (and probably implemented in the first place). memory not quite what it was.
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Two links detailing DDT and polio, and historical correlation of polio to poisoning.
*https://harvoa.org/polio/overview.htm
*https://harvoa.org/polio/scobpois.htm
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No, I would say a general ban on lead paint was a good idea, since it is toxic. You don’t want babies or animals eating the paint chips or something. But they need to keep an exception for artists, or at least top figure artists. There is no modern replacement for it and skin made with it glows like nothing else. Figurative artists are now as rare as unicorns, and paintings don’t shed paint like walls, since the paint is much higher quality, under varnish. But they need to ban a lot of modern construction supplies, which are even more toxic than lead paint. It is like the turpentine question here in Cali. They have banned real turp, but real turp isn’t nearly as toxic as the things that have replaced it. They seem to want to kill us, replacing low toxicity with high toxicity on purpose.
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As a painter, I heard tales from the old times that said it was important not to get any lead paint on you while applying it. The lead in wet paint would pass into their bloodstream and poison them.
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I use lots of lead white. I use it as my ground and also as my basic white for skin. You don’t want to eat it or leave it on your fingers is all. You also have to be careful when sanding the ground. But I am very careful, so it doesn’t scare me. My Mom made me get a blood test after many years of working with it, and I actually tested LOWER than normal for lead. I also tested low for lead in my recent hair test provided by Josh’s friend.
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I agree with the guy in the video about the real reason for banning lead paint. The government poisons us in many ways so they obviously aren’t protecting us with the leaf paint ban.
In California they banned lead bullets because they said condors eat them and die. That’s just ridiculous.
I’m not saying lead is safe to eat. I don’t know but I suspect it’s not as toxic as claimed.
Here in CA the gov’t also says not to eat too much fish because it contains mercury. But, other sources say that’s not true. I think the gov’t doesn’t want people to eat fish simply because it is a healthy food.
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Here where I live I have seen things like magnets on people’s refrigerators for many years that say eat smaller fish, because they have less concentration of poison, like mercury and lead in them. I suppose it could work the opposite way for all I know, but either way, I can easily believe the fish are subjected to just as much poison as the rest of us. There is a coal fired power plant just upriver from where I grew up, on the Mississippi. My brother worked there and knows about the levels of toxins that are in all the ash they dispose of, and that shit just leaches right into the river. It’s all a lowland swampy area, the river just flows through for miles and miles up there. They have lagoons or whatever for containment but he told me, probably two decades ago that they were running in violation of environmental codes, and nothing was going to be done about it. I’m sure nothing still has. “They” can do whatever they want whenever they want. We are all being poisoned. There’s no doubt about that. It’s all about trying to minimize your exposure.
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Fish have only trace amounts, the only bad fish is farmed fish, they get shit food. Wild caught fish are mostly safe to eat. My new favority youtube channel is by Masaru as Japenese freediving fisher.
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If you eat fish or shellfish in any consistent fashion, your hair test will probably show elevated levels of both mercury and cadmium. Whether they are farm raised fish or not. The oceans are pretty toxic at this point.
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Sorry Miles to bring you on such petty things.
Also you’ve my thanks for your great contribution here !
It wasn’t my intention in the first place but i’ve thought that the matter was sufficiently important to debate about it.
Also i believe that when mainstream biochemists discuss about metabolism, they talk about charge channeling by the way.
As you say charge channeling is a process that drives everything including metabolism.
And since metabolism drives life itself in all biological organism.
Is about protonation and deprotonation of molecules.
I conclude that a virus that doesn’t metabolise, can’t channel charge in the first place.
I think that is a reasonable claim.
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Everything channels charge. “virus” does not do that because it is not an everything, it is a nothing. IMNSHO
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Exactly, it is that simple.
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No bet was ever made Miles, sorry if you were misled on that. “Viruses don’t metabolise so they can’t channel charge.” was the apparent error of Ali. I just tire of taking about it with the “its simple” crowd.
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it always simple, unless you prefer making it difficult and obfuscate the issue… maybe you should call yourself the umptieth doorman.
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Where did you get the notion that herpes was caused by a nutritional deficiency or toxicity? Don’t obfuscate, just tell us what website/source you put your faith in. Its so simple.
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Herpes is an inflammatory response to poisoning.
Reference to a study:
http://www.harvoa.org/wnv/middsex.htm
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Is this why people are getting shingles after vaccine? A few family members have broken out in shingles about 4 weeks after the vaccine. The line from the drs is that stress has triggered it.
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Search this post for the word shingles: https://www.hartgroup.org/it-gets-worse-before-it-gets-better/
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Thanks. I suggested that to my Dr and pharmacist (that the immune system must be occupied and vulnerable), because it’s kinda commonsensical, but he dismissed it on the basis that the vaccine actually boosts immunity.
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This caught my attention, as a friends wife developed shingles in December. I don’t know if she’s vaccinated, but assume so, because he is. But I find that paper hard to follow. The quote is:
“A recent paper from Israel of nearly 500 women under 61 who were followed up after vaccination showed five of them developed Shingles in the first two weeks after vaccination. Shingles is caused by the Chicken Pox virus which lies dormant all our lives unless the immune system is suppressed and it reignites in one part of the body. The rate of infections was fifty times higher than would be expected in that population over that time course. This is evidence of the immune system being unable to keep viruses in check after vaccination. Perhaps the immune system is so tied up with dealing with the vaccine effects that there is no capacity for it to carry out its normal function.”
Where the words “500” and “fifty” link to studies.
If we take the “fifty” link, we see in the first graph the average rate of shingles for those under 60 is about 2.125 per 1000. In the second graph the average rate of shingles for those 30-60 is about 6.15 per 1000, as of 2016. As the rate has been increasing, it is probably even greater today. Yet the paper says 5 in 500 women developed shingles within 2 weeks (the study shows 6 women total). If we double it, that would be 12 in 1000. So while this certainly shows an increase, it is nowhere near 50 times higher. Only about 5.6 times higher as per the first graph, or 1.9 times higher as per the second. That may still be significant, but am I missing something, why do they say “fifty”?
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Immunologist Sucharit Bhakdi suggests some possible explanations for why latent viral infections like shingles are reactivated by gene based vaccinations. Also see Bhakdi’s video on this topic.
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The basic problem (with Bhakdi) is that….
No study has characterized properly a “virus”, because, virus causation studies do not control for obvious toxic factors.
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‘Much like HIV causes immune system disruption by suppressing CD4 “helper” cells, the same thing happens when CD8 “killer” cells are suppressed. In Dr. Cole’s expert view, this is what seems to be the case with the COVID-19 jabs.
‘Cole goes on to state that as a result of this vaccine-induced “killer T-cell” suppression, he is seeing an “uptick” of not only endometrial cancer, but also melanomas, as well as herpes, shingles, mono, and a “huge uptick” in HPV when “looking at the cervical biopsies of women.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/owner-diagnostic-lab-reports-20-times-increase-cancer-vaccinated-patients/5756399
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Yes, the official cause is “stress”, but studies say it can be caused reliably in a laboratory with various poisons.
I got shingles the morning after I sat in NYC 5pm rush hour traffic on my new motorcycle, not knowing how to ride between the cars to get out of there. I learned. Six weeks of stinging hell was that shingles.
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I believe that stress can cause it. Someone I trust told me they got it after a death in the family. Stress likely lowers you immunity. But it seems to they use stress a cop out for anything and everything.
Covid stress would have been around since the beginning of the panic. So the starting date of the shingles upsurge should be when covid started, not when the vaccines started.
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Emotional stress could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back — the camel that is carrying a load of poison.
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unobtrusive-
The doctors can be right, even though they’re actually missing the point.
Emotional stress will affect your body, right? Your body is constantly dealing with a toxic load, and stress will lower your bodies ability to deal with that toxicity, lowers your potential immune response. You could get sick as a result. You could get shingles.
What is the vaccine? An additional toxic load, a toxic shock shot. More stress to the body. The result? According to your story, shingles could be the result. Beyond shingles, many other people are having much worse effects from the toxic stress of this jab.
Notice the remark by Jim above you, “the official cause is “stress”, but studies say it can be caused reliably in a laboratory with various poisons.”
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To circle back, the point the doctors are missing is that stress is just the trigger; it’s the resultant inability of your body to then deal with toxicity of one kind or another that brings on the “disease”.
Likewise, the nonexistent virus (any virus) is said to cause disease. Virus is the phantom boogeyman, used for the past 100plus years to cover up industrial poisoning, and to spread fear.
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Yes, and in other words, doctors are in the business of finding your fault, and avoiding industrial culpability. Not handling “stress” is your fault.
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@Benjamin
‘A recent paper from Israel……………….’
According to endless news reports Israel is the most vaccinated country on earth.
I don’t know what to make of that ‘fact’
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I suspect it is another ruse. We would expect Israelis to get the memo not to take it, so I assume most of them didn’t, or took a placebo on camera. I don’t believe any of the numbers coming out of there. It is supposed to give the rest of the world confidence in the vaccine, but it didn’t work on me.
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The percentages of vaccinated all around the world are inflated for sure, same in Israel. It is not the most vaccinated country on Earth, but it was the first out of the gate and first to start with boosters. Elite Israelis who got the jabs on TV were almost certainly fake or placebo, but the same is not true of the rest of the country. There was a massive, unparalleled propaganda campaign to get people to get jabbed, repeatedly. There was no memo. At least not for the common Jews. It may be that Israelis were spared the worst batches, but they were not spared the devastation completely. I know this because of what I’ve witnessed with my own eyes. There is also this, the world’s first documentary as far as I know chronicling the vaccine injured. Tell me these are crisis actors: http://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/
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The ruling spooks are ancient aristocracy, and not actual Jews in the textbook sense. To them, Israel is just one labrat cage among others.
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Since it may interest some of the people here, i’m reposting and editing a comment that has been completely overlooked on the current events thread.
Let’s assume there are no viruses, a question must be raised.
What are vaccines made for ?
A simple answer is that vaccines are about the disruption of the blood brain barrier.
Vaccine protocols since the beginning of their introductions were always about brain functions disruption.
One that will search through the vaccine history will find convincing evidence that it was always about the disruption of the brain capalities along the poisonous aftereffects it carries.
And to attain this purpose they need one thing : the building up of toxines in your blood
Simply speaking the vaccines will cause a buffer effect for the toxines in your blood.
It means that it will paralysed your metabolism which cause toxines to accumulate in your blood but it is not the only purpose.
When the toxines accumulates too much in your blood thanks to bad eating in combination with vaccines and external pollutants, all these factors will cause your blood to overheat too much for the brain to handle it since your blood need to heat to handle those toxines charge.
What i simply mean is that the overheating/overvoltage of the blood(red blood cells) will cause the brain to get burn and disrupt literally.
No wonder that an individual such as Aristote thought that the brain primer function was to temper the blood temperature.
So all of these informations may give you hints as to what objective is pursued by the ones promoting vaccines and no, i’m not talking about so called “gene-therapy” which are absolutely vaccines re-labeled so as to not raise suspicion and cover again the main subject.
[This explains the increase of autism cases since the 70s all around the world.
Also one that compare the autism spectrum disorder, the range of symptoms it implies and the quantities of vaccines administered over the decades will find parallels and certainly a causation relationship.]
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Autism correlates best with ultrasound, which replaced routine fetal X-rays in the late 1970s. Ultrasound is 100x worse than vaccines, but there is no anti-ultrasound political movement. Oddly, RFK plays down ultrasound in favor of vaccine damage.
https://townsendletter.com/April2017/ultrasound0417.html
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Ali, there is more agreement here 🙂
Ultrasound has a special talent. It easily resonates against and destroys cell membranes, resulting in membrane “leakage” in all its forms (blood-brain barrier, capillary leakage, etc).
It makes any cell 100x more vulnerable to poisoning, such as from vaccines.
Thus the disease seems to be caused by the vaccine, when vaccine is the trigger. Ultrasound is the foundation.
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Intriguing !
I thank you for explaining ultrasound effects in a concise manner.
Indeed ultrasound has to be taken very seriously.
“It makes any cell 100x more vulnerable to poisoning, such as from vaccines.”
May i ask, how long ultrasound affects cell membranes ?
Is it a once in a lifetime event that may impact for life ?
So assuming this information, i may say that ultrasound overheats cell membranes, disrupting their pH and their voltage already at the prenatal state.
It is the foundation as you say.
Vaccines are then brought along to maintain this initial condition or to get close to it.
Finally, boosters are likely the final trigger to an overall poisoning/overvoltage of the central nervous system.
That kind of explain why an individual with autism get his blood system more acidic than normal on the pH range.
There are also some datas showing that the blood system voltage from that same individual is lower than that of a normal individual since pH does equate to cell voltage.
You may already know it but see for it this article from this link : https://autismsupportresources.blogspot.com/2010/10/ph-cell-voltage.html?m=1
Your indications make me want to dig more on ultrasound.
I feel the dangerosity of this practice with the vaccine one.
I appreciate your contributions here.
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Membrane damage by ultrasound is permanent. That observation coordinates with your explanations of vaccine and other forms of damage throughout a person’s life.
This study damages cell membranes at 1/38th the FDA exposure limit for fetal ultrasound.
Ref: Kimmel, Krasovitski
https://www.pnas.org/content/108/8/3258
A note on “Overheating”. This is an impossible standard dictated by Medical science in order to thwart critics of ultrasound or EMF (both are radiation). It is rare that ultrasound or EMF causes a rise in temperature, unless with an extraordinarily high intensity.
Many studies find “non-thermal” damage long before overheating occurs. Cell damage occurs within a few seconds of low ultrasound intensity.
Those studies are ignored by Medicine by use of the “overheating” standard they dictate.
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@Jim West
Your comment doesn’t address directly my reasonings but is really interesting.
Also you don’t know if i’m in favor or vaccine damage for being anti this and that.
Presuming things in the first place won’t get you far with me.
You do say that ultrasound only correlates with autism but my reasonings exposes the causation link between autism and vaccines injection in a more direct approach.
In your paper, i can see that ultrasound could create cavitational bubbles collapse due to a increase in temperature of thousand of degrees but that could only explains the worst cases of autism.
Also don’t you think that if autism correlates with ultrasound, we would see more obvious evidences such as superficial burns on babies’s skin and massive reporting of these cases in the 70s(?)
I think the medical mainstream found that this approach wasn’t a sufficient one which explains the vaccines protocols made in parallels.
That’s why they go to great lenght to get things injected in the blood system because that is where it is about.
You say : “Ultrasound is 100x worse than vaccines”
No, i’m mildly disagree here, i will explain why,
Vaccines are no less worse than ultrasound.
I’m not going to say 100x but they certainly are no less.
A vaccine with its booster alters directly the central nervous system which is the the most essential barrier known against toxines you can get of any living being, disrupting literally the being ability to process informations.
There is no worse thing than that.
Or is there something worse than getting its brain acidified, i wonder (?)
Minimizing the disastrous effects poison can get, if directly injected in the blood, setting an arbitrary number of 100x by comparing it with ultrasound won’t change that fact though i won’t undermine the atrocious effects ultrasound may have.
Even a simple vein’s cut made inadvertently by a vaccine could directly cause thrombose cases.
And it is not the recent astrazeneca cases that will tell the contrary or people ignorance of that simple matter.
Also ultrasound may explain the worst cases in the autism spectrum disorder but certainly not the ‘mild’ or ‘higher’ cases of autism which refers to those who are seemingly ‘unharmed’ or ‘little’ impaired.
Or SUDDEN changes which are directly reported in children by their parents after a vaccine(booster) injection or vein’s cuts or both.
All of these elements aren’t explainable by ultrasound alone presumably in a pre-natal state.
The disabilities spectrum regarding autism is explainable by multiple factors but vaccines are prevalent nonetheless.
In any case, what i actually understand of the vaccine protocols is twofold :
1) Vaccines are made to build up toxines in the blood stream by paralyzing the metabolism ;
2) Boosters are made to burn the blood brain barrier so that the toxines that have been accumulated in the blood stream thanks to vaccine gets through the brain and disrupt it or burn it which results directly in meningities, strokes and worse ;
Therefore, the most toxines one has been building up thanks to vaccines, the most aggravating his case will be in the autism spectrum disorder thanks to boosters.
Again my explanation here is simple.
That’s why the officials are actually talking about boosters.
There are no boosters without vaccines and vice-versa.
Underestimating the vaccines/boosters threat by comparing it to another or make it kind of banal, don’t help at all.
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I think the papers by Miles and guests prove the bad guys like to push conflicting stories to keep us arguing among ourselves. The viruses exist vs “no such thing as viruses” conflict is probably also partly created and inflamed by the bad guys.
I do believe there are communicable diseases and in the past bacteria played a role in passing disease from one person to the next (eg small pox from animal faeces in drinking water).
It seems that the cvd jabbed are passing something on to other people around them and I call these people “biofactories of gunk” – they are walking disease emitters.
I believe the flu jab each year puts “flu” into the community and in Australia the flu takes off in March-April (when flu jabs are given out in Autumn), and it would taper off by July (and yet July is mid winter when flu and respiratory diseases should be at high levels).
This sort of thing leads to one thought about jabbed people being the “source of viruses” in the modern age.
I have listened to the arguments about a virus being able to be passed from one person to the next and think it might be possible, but I also note that unhealthy people tend to be more susceptible to “catching the virus” from other people around them , and then there are the symptoms of cold-flu and these are not unlike other symptoms of poor health and malaise.
Some health practitioners see these symptoms as the body wanting to clear out the gunk from a poor diet and lifestyle, and so it may be the body forcing a person to rest and have some downtime so the body can work to remove toxins etc.
This last part also sounds similar to the idea of the body producing exosomes as byproducts of waste while the body is going through the normal healthy process of removing bad stuff from the body.
And I can believe that the bad guys encouraged scientists and doctors to take this process and invent a thing called a “virus” – to develop the concept of something that passes easily from one person to the next, as this would be the foundation of a future fear program. (I take these old novels to be early parts of the seeding of the fear program – original HG Wells War of the Worlds -bacteria kills the Martians; and H Lee To Kill a Mockingbird – rabies that becomes the basis of fear of zombies. Then Star Trek and countless other shows made people comfortable with an injection as providing health/ curing disease.)
There is also the info saying it was a jab that caused the Spanish flu in 1928 (originating in a US military fort and a paper by Gates grandfather and scientist in a lab).
There are also other claims about different viruses being the result of mass injections for other health risks/ disease – eg polio caused by DDT in the 1960s, but now 75% is due to the polio jab; HIV being caused by other jabs given to those “at risk” people just prior to the original HIV outbreak.
There is a research paper that says the number of different diseases with an unknown origin has increased exponentially since the mass flu jab commenced in the 1970s and I do believe this has contributed to disease and ill health.
Then the plandemic videos have Dr Judy Mikovits saying it was by growing viruses in animal cell linings that cause recombinant DNA as it enabled animal and human cells/ bacteria/ viruses to get together and recombine in ways that undermine human health.
So I do believe that all of the different jabs cause damage in different ways.
Then there are the other claims about stages of technology roll outs that coincided with the emergence of new diseases – they connect early radio waves to Spanish flu, through to 5G and cvd. It is interesting but just one piece of the puzzle I think.
But I am convinced that the all out attack on human health from all angles has intentionally weakened the human genome to make people more susceptible to illness and disease – through contaminated water, air, food, jabs, access to high sugar and all sorts of chemicals and heavy metals polluting the human body eg carcinogens in sunscreen. I do believe that being around electrical or magnetic fields and an increase in electrical energy also pollute/ harms the body.
There are also victims of infected blood where the blood of unwell people (with HIV or Hep c etc) was given to other healthy people repeatedly as an experiment. Eg some kids who were haemophiliac were given blood products over many years and later learnt they had received some of that blood from the same person – that person was a male prostitute who did drugs and had hep c and was encourage to continue to donate blood. This was back in the 1980s and at the time there were prominent “donate blood” ads in the local gay newspapers – this blood was use in their experiment. The victims were innocent people who received blood from these experiments and many developed these diseases – hep c, hiv – leading to shortened life span and poor health.
This example also says the labs believed it was possible to pass disease from one person to another and they were able to achieve it with repeated treatments of blood to these people. Is it a virus? Is it just some bacteria being passed from one person to the next until it establishes a foothold and causes a decline in health? I can believe that these are the reasons and not a “virus”.
Thus I do believe it is possible for one human to pass on disease to the next person and for this to be via breath, saliva or blood.
I do believe there are communicable diseases.
I also remember one summer having a cough for 9 weeks and running into a friend who mentioned their grandmother had had a cough for 9 weeks – a person I don’t cross paths with. I don’t usually get a cough. I don’t get annual flu jabs or any jabs as an adult. This example made me think think there are communicable and these are being designed – to have slow manifestation (a few days to show symptoms so you are in the community and passing something around to other people), and then perhaps they can set a certain length of time for the overt symptoms. I still think this is possible and I’m going to call this a “designer virus”.
Some of the people who had extreme symptoms of cvd say they lost their sense of smell, and months later still have no sense of smell. So I can believe there are designer viruses out there.
I also think these can be spread by breath, saliva or blood , and also possibly by touching surfaces.
But I also think healthy people will have the best natural defence against these designer viruses.
I also believe the best thing is for each person to follow the healthy clean living plan and reduce their exposure to Frankenfoods, chemicals, metals , electrical fields etc. eat health natural foods. Get sunshine, fresh food, fresh air, be active. Be careful about stress and toxic people/ environments.
I’ve been looking at people who lived in England in the mid 1800s popping out 8 kids (with most surviving) and living until they are 80 and still working in really hard physical jobs. They look very strong and healthy to me and must have been in a good mental state.
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I agree that vaccines have a causation relationship, but it is much less than the relationship to ultrasound.
Vaccines have no precise timeline correlation, ultrasound does:
Autism is initiated in the womb during the time when doctors are urging women to have ultrasound, the 20th week. An autism diagnosis is not usually made until years later.
A glance at the dose/response ratios should tell you that nearly every fetus subjected to ultrasound is damaged (ranging from subtle to gross).
The FDA admits that animal studies condemn ultrasound, however, they give it a pass because (as the FDA states) doctors are not reporting fetal damage.
Pregnant women are not forced to have vaccines. But they are threatened and tricked into ultrasound.
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“It is rare that ultrasound or EMF causes a rise in temperature, unless with an extraordinarily high intensity.”
I think mechanically there has to be necessarily a rise in temperature/pressure or at least in voltage but with ultrasound it is kind of like high-velocity energy pulses setting on ultralow periods, on a very focused area/surface and that may explain the ‘difficulty’ as to capture this phenomenon with actual measuring devices and why this event is considered to be safe.
Otherwise i agree, overheating is a tricky term and can easily be brushed off even by the so high medical standard.
Nonetheless, even if the period of this event is of extremely little duration, mechanically i have no better term to use than overheating to describe it.
Maybe over-pressurisation (?)
“Vaccines have no precise timeline correlation, ultrasound does:”
I have to disagree here not for the sake of it but i think it is exactly what the vaccines pursuants are seeking.
In this case, when talking about vaccines correlation you’re necessarily talking about the combination/synergy between vaccines and boosters.
This combination is ideal for them to trick the timeline correlation.
By the way boosters are exactly like vaccines, that’s why when i use the term vaccines, i’m talking about both.
In any case, a process that can’t be related to direct/observasional evidence where they impose their standards as with precise timeline correlation is exactly what they seek.
Therefore like ultrasound it is very dangerous to assume that a phenomenon is only banal or safe because of its duration or only of its precise timeline correlation.
Medecine is not an exact science or a science of calculus as you stated it with ultrasound cases.
You have to take the same approach with vaccines.
Also i have been focusing on vaccines but i haven’t even raised my opinion on the so called immune system since i consider it to not exist either.
And if this system also doesn’t exist, then vaccines aren’t banal events at all.
Any good doctors would say that your blood must be preserved with extreme care.
Ideally, nothing is supposed to mix with your blood directly.
To understand the vaccines consequences is to understand health.
Health is define exactly by the fact that it doesn’t require anything else to work.
You have to be with it for it to work or else you’re against it and you’re then the disease.
Notice that i’m saying you ARE the disease not that you’re IN disease.
“A glance at the dose/response ratios should tell you that nearly every fetus subjected to ultrasound is damaged (ranging from subtle to gross).”
I have no doubt about you’re expertise here.
It is very fortunate that you’ve brought up this matter.
It seems that this practice is of extreme importance for the power that be given its scale.
I thank you for that.
“Autism is initiated in the womb during the time when doctors are urging women to have ultrasound, the 20th week.”
I agree though i would replace “autism” in your sentence by “autism with asperger’s syndrom cases”.
Autism with kanner’s syndrom cases(the extreme cases) may be a combination of both ultrasound and vaccines+boosters at a higher dose and rate since autism disorder is a spectrum which indicates a degree/range or a rate and this rate refers of course to poisoning events.
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I think mechanically there has to be necessarily a rise in temperature/pressure…
jw: Yes, ultrasound is oscillating very high pressures. Technically there is extremely high heat, but it is at the molecular level, and dissipates in a nano-second, being unmeasurable. But the mainstream is setting the unrealistic temperature threshold for tissue.
“jw: Vaccines have no precise timeline correlation, ultrasound does:”
I have to disagree here not for the sake of it but i think it is exactly what the vaccines pursuants are seeking.
jw: Ultrasound studies apply it to a group of pregnant women wanting abortion, and birthed are severely damaged infants. That’s quite a timeline.
In this case, when talking about vaccines correlation you’re necessarily talking about the combination/synergy between vaccines and boosters.
This combination is ideal for them to trick the timeline correlation.
jw: YES. And not allow an anti-ultrasound movement. RFK is key to that.
Medicine is not an exact science or a science…
jw” “Medi-Cine”, mediating with cinema (theater)
Notice that i’m saying you ARE the disease not that you’re IN disease.
jw: Yes it is our response, often an inflammatory response.
“jw: A glance at the dose/response ratios should tell you that nearly every fetus subjected to ultrasound is damaged (ranging from subtle to gross).”
I have no doubt about you’re expertise here.
It is very fortunate that you’ve brought up this matter.
It seems that this practice is of extreme importance for the power that be given its scale.
I thank you for that.
jw: Good that it strengthens your arguments.
“Autism is initiated in the womb during the time when doctors are urging women to have ultrasound, the 20th week.”
I agree though i would replace “autism” in your sentence by “autism with asperger’s syndrome cases”.
jw: Many medicos believe Asperger’s is a sub-category of autism. That’s how I’m using it.
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jw: YES. And not allow an anti-ultrasound movement. RFK is key to that.
ali : I’ve got to admit.
Until currently, i wasn’t exactly aware that ultrasound would be that significant regarding autism since i haven’t done my due investigation on it.
Thanks to your interventions, i get a broader perspective on this strategic matter.
Also to be clear, my position for ultrasound appliances on fetuses is therefore unambiguously anti and my intention was not to conceal the matter in favor to the vaccines.
I completely agree with you on that and to my knowledge, i’ve noticed that i haven’t seen any movements related to this matter in Europe but well in the EU we are always at a delay comparing to the US.
Your observations on ultrasound correlates my observations of it with autism spectrum disorder.
It is like an energetic print that dramatically impacts and reduce the frequency range of the body for a lifetime as you say.
Actually that explains a lot of oddities i’ve encountered to my life and in others.
I wonder if there are solutions available to restore cell’s membrane voltage (?)
Maybe setting a current at a certain tension so as to alkalinize the cell’s membrane pH is a sound consideration.
jw: Many medicos believe Asperger’s is a sub-category of autism. That’s how I’m using it.
ali : As usual with medecine, they perceive that in complete reversal and that is a dramatic confusion for individuals with severe autism to get sticked at the same root with individuals with lesser autism.
This confusion also contribute to broad big pharma businesses.
It conceals the actual root cause of this problem which is ultrasound help by vaccines/boosters.
I’ve seen some youtubers with ‘lesser autism’ [or maybe they pretend(?)] who pretend that this is a monolithic condition which is due only to genetic and therefore is unavoidable.
And the beautiful thing with that is the real victims actually getting pulled by this narrative with so the called ‘neuroatypie’ and ‘hyper sensibilities’ etiquettes.
Well, at last we got a much clearer perspective of it thanks to your research.
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Ali wrote “I wonder if there are solutions available to restore cell’s membrane voltage (?)”
Membranes are physically damaged and porous (“leaky” everything).
One of the experiments exposes a layer of cells to ultrasound. A dye is dropped into the middle of the cells and the dye spreads out through the cells.
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Ali, I’m old 🙂 and we didn’t get fetal ultrasound. We got fetal x-rays.
Here is the guy (and his research) who wrote an explosive article circa 1960-70s in a major medical journal, that asserted that most breast cancer was due to mammograms.
John Gofman, PhD.
https://ratical.org/ratitorsCorner/09.23.15.html
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I mention Gofman, because you mentioned the erred belief that diseases can be congenital-genetic.
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Terrain theorists occupy two main camps: 1: viruses don’t exist and 2: viruses exist but play an important role in the healing process. Based on my armchair research so far, I lean towards #2. Regardless of where you stand on viruses and disease in general, I think you’ll find this paper worth the read https://neosante.eu/newsletter/jeffgreen/Jeff_Green_ARTICLE_Neosante_134_EV_2.pdf.
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Yes, very interesting, thank you for providing the link. Definitely worth a close read.
I, too, lean towards #2. We have to ask what is the purpose of bacteria and viruses in nature. I don’t think it’s not just to kill humans. I’m not sure about viruses, but it seems bacteria are clean up agents, there to transform decaying or dead matter, e.g. compost heap. Perhaps it’s only when there is so much decaying or dead matter in the body that the bacteria get out of control and become a problem. Perhaps viruses have a similar role.
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