Chronic disease is a real problem, as anybody who has one knows all too well. Estimates suggest that 60% of all adults in the U.S. have at least one chronic condition, which account for more than 2/3 of all causes of deaths. A third of all people worldwide suffer from multiple chronic illnesses. [Setting aside the question of whether any of these mainstream numbers can be trusted.] Of course, this is enormously profitable. Treatment of chronic conditions in the U.S. alone costs around $2.5 trillion. And since we have finally recognized that virtually every aspect of modern life is a money-making racket, a cradle-to-grave shakedown, we can hardly expect this to be any different. (A racket, recall, is when you deliberately cause a problem in order to profit from solving it.)
One of the things I have learned about the most from comments on this blog is about health-related issues — whether it be about nutrition, which vitamins and supplements to take (and which not), vaccines, pollution and even animal care. So I’m opening up this post as a place for people to discuss health matters, because – if you’ve ever been ill for an extended period you know — health matters. Without our health, it’s much harder to get anything done. Illness, especially chronic, is deeply disempowering, and that is part of the health racket, too: they want us worried and spending our time dealing with illness. So it seems to me that as people who want to fight the powers that be, at least within our own spheres of influence, the first order of business ought to be taking back the power and strength of our own bodies. So think of this as a thread where you can share the knowledge you’ve learned and also ask for and give advice. Of course it doesn’t have to be confined to humans or to chronic illness or even to illness — any health and wellness advice is welcome in the broadest sense of the word.
I’m going to kick things off first by linking to two papers written by Miles Mathis. The first concerns his experience taking so many health supplements that he was getting iodine poisoning. The second is a paper he wrote in 2012 called “The Health Emergency” on taking control of your food and water to avoid toxins and GMOs.
Here are some of the comments that people have left about these issues. I’m sure I’ve left some out. Please don’t be offended if I left your comment out. I only pasted what I remembered and could find in an easy search within a reasonable amount of time. Please feel free to repost any comments you or others left on other posts here or on other sites. Also not that I do not and cannot vouch for any of this information — it could all be wrong, though I wouldn’t post it if I thought it was likely to be wrong. As always, think for yourself.
From Genevieve A.K.A. “cancelled”:
“The soil was depleted as far back as the 1940’s. Most if not all people, as a result, are malnourished. Dr Royal Lee fought this lost battle for decades; the industrial food cartel destroyed his life because of that battle. But he left an important legacy of nutritional research describing the nutritional destructiveness of the food we all consume, thanks to “the families” who were described in one comment as “nurturers”.
“Even the “vitamins” we’re sold are crap; they’re isolates which are ineffective. Royal Lee tells/told it like it is. And he predicted, being a scientific researcher, the endemic modern diseases — autoimmune, cancer, diabetes, obesity, et al. Hello? Is nobody aware of the dire state of humankind’s health?
“People will say, well we had to have intensive farming; we had to have industrialized food. But that’s not true! Back in the day, people had vegetable gardens in their yards, and some chickens, and fruit trees, and a cow. They created their own food — butter, unpasteurized/healthy milk, eggs, veggies, fruits — as a matter of course. They made their own soap…. They were not dependent on grocery stores like we are now.
“That’s been a change for the worse in many ways — to health, to freedom and independence, economically, and environmentally.
“It’s the greedy industrialists who have wreaked havoc on the social, environmental, employment, economic, and educational aspects of mankind’s world…. It could have all been so different! Love and nurturing of humanity was an option not chosen. Humanity could have been cultivated, to bring out their best qualities — if megalomaniacs insist in control — instead of crushed under a jackboot for the sake of jealously guarded hegemony fueled by greed and materialism and nepotism.
“I hate them! These people are cowards. I cringe when the benign appellation “the families” is applied to them. They have stolen people’s lives. They have, as the overseers of our earth, raped, and pillaged, and polluted it. They are nothing more than criminals.”
And in another comment:
“…the fact is, the .0001% are making the other 99.9999% physically, emotionally, and spiritually ill — basically their methods are killing people, and they know this!
“To realize this, all you have to do is look into the scientific research of the early to mid 20th century on nutrition by McCarrison, Lee, Price, Park, Wiley — a prolific period of research before the industrialized food cartel took total control of research and publishing, and bought the FDA. It has been nearly a century ago that they found the worrisome proliferation of degenerative diseases brought about by soil erosion, intensive farming and processed food by these families — much of it from sugar — was causing malnutrition, and even how that process worked. These families own the medical profession and the dental profession and the hospitals and the pharmaceutical companies and the food supply and the farmland and the minerals and the “government” and the courts.”
And elsewhere:
“I trust early to mid 20th century nutritional research articles and books. Royal Lee and his peers are excellent; the historical archives of the Selene River Press is a treasure trove with lots of breadcrumbs, covering both all aspects of nutrition and also food politics. The History of a Crime against the Pure Food Law illustrates how we ended up with chemically processed food and an industry-owned FDA. There was a war.
“Weston A Price’s 1938 book (free online) “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” investigated the health and dental conditions of remote “savage” tribes untouched by civilized foods, and described their natural eating habits and excellent physical condition, and absence of social problems and crime — until processed foods invaded.
“The nutritional researchers back then were earnest, uncorrupted, and concerned about the dramatic rise in degenerative diseases, cancer, dental problems, arthritis, etc.which they unanimously attributed to malnutrition, due to depleted soil, food processing, and pasteurization; a great deal of their research focuses on what constitutes proper nutrition — hence Price’s expeditions into uncivilized cultures across the globe.
“Vitamins were a recent discovery and an area of avid research. Too, processed food was relatively new, unlike now; people were alive who had been raised on real food, knew the difference, and fought (but lost) against the proliferation of additives, adulteration, preservatives, and refinement of our food supply.”
And elsewhere:
“The depression epidemic is connected to the food INDUSTRY. The dead, processed food is connected to the medical INDUSTRY. Malnutrition causes symptoms that are suppressed with pharmaceutical drugs, a euphemism for CHEMICALS that are also in our water. Malnutrition also causes dental caries and gum diseases — unheard of in primitive cultures until they were exposed to processed foods by “civilization.”
“Malnutrition fuels the medical, dental, and pharmaceutical industries. But you never hear a word about the rampant malnutrition epidemic. Real, nutritional food would put paid to the chemical, agribusiness, medical and dental industries. It would also necessarily end centralized control because the only way to provide real, live, nutritious food is for it to be sourced locally — storage and transportation requires processing. And that would mean different foods for different localities, depending on climate, weather, soil, sunlight, etc. So then you put a huge dent in intensive agriculture and the transportation industry.
“The petroleum INDUSTRY, connected to the food industry via packaging, is a major contributor to the cancer industry, as estrogens cause many cancers, especially breast cancer; and as plastics are major endocrine disruptors, the cause of so many degenerative diseases too numerous to list. Primary among them is sterility and gender bending, being covered up by normalizing it. Not to mention the endocrine-disrupting bromine that is put in all flour and bakery products. So any iodine you may have is displaced by the halogens bromine, and fluoride.
“One could go on forever listing the causes of malnutrition, caused by centralized control of food resources: rancid oils, chemical preservatives, chemical fertilizers, food irradiation, ad nauseum. All of which puts the human and animal bodies under tremendous toxic stress because these wastes have to be dealt with. But in malnutrition, the cells grab what’s available, and if only inappropriate stuff is available (as in bromine, and not iodine), health gets compromised.
“Why am I writing this? Because we are being slowly starved to death by the practices of industrialists with the collusion of governments. We are being broken down slowly, almost imperceptibly — mentally and physically. The nature of our food supply is possibly the most important issue relevant to our welfare. And nobody seems to notice.”
Here is a comment from Runar on electrical and photon therapies and nutrition:
“Not before I almost was about to die in 2011 did i care to look up health. I used one of the most primitive to heal myself. It was part of the Bob Beck protocol and it created a single current to electrify the blood. And it works, it kills off invaders. Also Bob Beck created a color pulser for the healing of wounds and skin ailments: https://www.cancertutor.com/bobbeck/
“Healing by electricity is now a century old tradition, the first machines gaining reputation was Royal Rife’s. Versions of his machines are still used, in US mostly. Reading about him and the war against him by FDA and Morris Fishbein is also entertaining.
“Hulda Clark is also study worth, she created her own zapper as she called it, and she also provided a technical drawing so that you can build one for yourself. A Lighthouse in herself, forced to migrate to Mexico to run her clinic. Her books are still a fabulous read thanks to her spirit and enchanted pragmatic attitude.
“The logic behind healing by electricity is that every living thing has got its own frequency and this current can be reverted. Most small things dies fast, others are just weakened, but with perseverance i even got rid of Lyme’s disease, it took 6 years and i used Bob Beck stuff at home daily for 2-3 years but also went to a therapeut using E-Lybra machine developed by WDS. Plus she also had MoRa machine, an development by German Morell and Rasche, who measured the body’s own meridian energies, and in this way created electrical acupuncture. It has also been very helpful in revealing my many food intolerances. I had been living on poison. I think i had 4-6 treatments the first years, and then twice yearly.
“As I stopped with carbohydrates and all grass products my lifelong depression went away to never come back. I found out:
Sugar and Carbohydrates => Depression and mania
Starches (Potato and things growing under soil) => Anxiety
Corn, flour => Guilt, shame & shyness.
“This little post contains things which I studied daily for a couple of years, my few links will not reveal much of that, but beware this is the area where wikipedia is at its least respectable. Incl google. Also when researching this field you notice a very much higher number of spooks trying to mislead, than any other place.
“Also very informative is curezone.com If you have the Latin name of your problem there is probably someone who has been fighting it before. But unfortunately very spook infested.”
Some recent advice on Vitamins, raw milk, and other supplements:
From Benjamin:
Spirulina and Chlorella have many similarities, but Spirulina is the lesser alternative as it only has faux B12 the body can’t utilise, whereas Chlorella has real B12 (rare in plants). There are two varieties of Chlorella – Vulgaris or Sorokinia (aka Pyrenoidosa). The latter is more beneficial (has much higher growth factor). You need to ensure it has been grown outdoors in sunlight (not “fermented” indoors in tanks). The wall also needs to be cracked for our bodies to utilise, but its a fine balance, as the act of cracking the wall can cause too much damage, losing much of the goodness. Either “sound vibration” or “pressure release” seem to be the most reliable methods. Of the Chlorella grown outdoors, studies show Taiwan is the cleanest source. Places like China have organically certified Chlorella, but it is still not as clean as that from Taiwan. Japan is in between. All of the above should be on the products website, if not the label. Failing that, contact the company for information.
Most Vit C supplements are just ascorbic acid, which is not really vitamin C, but an isolated component, often from synthetic source (GMO, inorganic, etc). On its own that component has low absorption in our bodies. Combined with co-factors (like bioflavonoids) it has improved absorption, but often those are synthetic too. So what to do? Best to get it from food. If the food available to you does not use reliable farming methods (common), it may suffer from a deficiency of vitamins and minerals. In which case, find a C supplement that is real C (not ascorbic acid), from whole food sources. You will know it when you find it, as it the food sources it comes from will be listed on the label. These type of supplements are rare to find, but do exist. They probably won’t be on the shelves of your average pharmacy.
It’s best for the C to be combined with co-factors (bioflavonoids, minerals) to help it work, but don’t just take a ‘combined with everything’ is best approach. Vitamins A,D,E,K are fat soluble, while B & C are water soluble. Therefore ADEK shouldn’t be in the same capsule as BC. They require different extraction techniques, requirements for stability, shelf life, etc… If you see all of it listed together, be sure it won’t all work.
Miles was taking the right approach, combining C with multi-minerals, though he didn’t mention whether they were from whole food sources or synthetics.
Then there is the list of ingredients that make up the tablets/capsules themselves. This branches into a huge topic, but to keep it short, a majority of this stuff is undesirable, and won’t always be listed on the label. Even if it is listed on the label, you won’t know what it means unless you’ve researched it, which most haven’t. The best simple solution is to avoid tablets (can’t trust their binding agents) where possible, and tip capsule content into water, so you don’t have to consume the capsule itself (sorry if you don’t like the taste!). Obviously if a tablet is saving your life keep taking it, but if you are presented with a choice, you are now a little more informed. Companies with integrity will use acceptable ingredients in their tablets/capsules, but how can you be certain which companies have that integrity, when most don’t?
Finally, to label a product ‘organic’, all it requires is one carbon atom. Carbon atoms are found in just about everything, including plastic and petrol, so you can see it is a completely useless term! ‘Certified organic’ is far more telling, as farms need to adhere to strict standards in order to receive the certification. However keep in mind this certification typically means 95% or more certified organic ingredients, meaning still a 5% chance it contains pesticides, chemical fertilisers etc…
From Genevieve/Cancelled:
The problem with taking Ascorbic Acid as “Vitamin C” is discussed here:
https://www.seleneriverpress.com/historical/is-this-shot-necessary/
Hold that thought, then consider this:
It is claimed by Dr Simon Agger that legally, in America, the only portion of the Vitamin C Complex that is allowed to be called Vitamin C is the (5%) ascorbic acid antioxidant wrapper around the C molecule. (I haven’t verified this.) So, people who think they are buying Vitamin C may not be getting Vitamin C; and the ascorbic acid they mistake for vitamin C may be inadvisable or worse, depending on their condition, as the above reference discusses.
What I do know is that, when I conducted an exhaustive online search for whole food Vit C to buy, I couldn’t find any — although such supplements do exist, I later found, via a non allopathic health care provider. But whole food Vitamin C Complex supplements are not available over the counter in health food stores.
There is a world of difference between Ascorbic Acid and naturally occurring Vitamin C as found in Nature.
I’ve really been shocked by my experience with raw dairy products– I had shunned milk all my adult life as “cow pus in a bottle.” But I became curious after running into a number of early 20th C articles on the Selene River Press by those pioneering nutritionists who were upset about pasteurization, and connecting its introduction with the proliferation of many degenerative diseases like arthritis and tooth decay, because it killed the nutrition and friendly bacteria in the milk; and I believe it compromised the utilization of calcium.
So whereas it had been known as a highly nutritious whole food — one scientific experiment involved living on it exclusively for two months, with no deleterious effects except a Vitamin C deficiency; pasteurization changed all that.
The first jug I bought sat in my fridge for days, so fearful was I to ingest it, as though it were a bottle of arsenic, or a rattlesnake. But then I dove in, via a protein shake, instead of water. I kid you not, I had a surge of energy hit my body. Now I rely on it, as a primary food — yoghurt, kefir, butter, milk, cream for my coffee.
And from L Kinder:
I’ve studied a lot of alternative health literature especially since 1996 and the best I’ve found is herbalist James Sloane. He had a site which is still up called http://medcapsules.com and he had a forum on Curezone.com called Truth in Medicine.
James Sloane said here and other places on his forum that amla berry powder has the best vitamin C. But it tastes terrible, so I put it in 00 capsules. My brother has a device that makes it easier to put the powder in the capsules. Sloane said acerola cherry is second best and rosehip powder is third best. The rosehip powder actually tastes pretty good. I think acerola is pretty expensive. A good source of these and other herbs is starwest-botanicals.com/ which has them in sizes of 1 lb bags or larger and sometimes quarter lb bags too. Another source for many supplements, not just herbs, is http://vitacost.com
Miles mentioned taking multivitamins and minerals. I doubt if those are worthwhile, especially with the iodine contents. Vitamin C is best from Amla berry powder or rosehip powder etc. Sloane says it competes with glucose for insulin uptake, as insulin carries both. So it’s best to take C separate from food about half an hour before meals. Otherwise, there’s not enough insulin to grab all of the C. He says C goes first to the adrenal glands to deal with stress and excess then goes to blood vessel repair etc. But he says over 1500 mg a day tends to harm the kidneys I think. B5 as from rice bran is also needed by the adrenal glands. He says magnesium-malate and -citrate are the most usable forms of magnesium, most others being fairly toxic. Mag-Mal and Mag-Cit are good for softening plaque in blood vessels and for preventing muscle cramps, high blood pressure etc. Lecithin granules are good for removing plaque from blood vessels and for brain problems etc. So those supplements can pretty much prevent heart attacks and strokes. Magnesium and zinc are the only minerals most of us need, I think. A lot of herbs are good for numerous major diseases. Chaparral and pau D’arco are likely very good for killing viruses that cause cancer. Silica is another important mineral, but the best way to get it is by putting a tablespoon of D.E. (diatomaceous earth) in a jar of water, letting it set for some hours or a day and taking a glass of water from the top now and then. It forms orthosilicic acid in water, the most usable form of silica. The D.E. lasts a few months in the bottom of the jar.
Something on tooth decay from Alex Illi:
Most common tooth problems (such as cavities, caries) IMO and in my experience stem from brushing teeth with commercial toothpaste (salt would be enough), especially before meals, e.g. commonly before breakfast, or too soon after meals. The brushing and soap-like paste eradicate the protective layer produced naturally around the teeth. After meals, especially those containing sugar and starchy carbohydrates, simply rinsing with water would be better. Because remaining carbohydrates are broken down by normal digestive enzymes and symbiotic bacteria in the mouth under production of acids, which can easily corrode the enamel if the protective film is not around the teeth. Some small plaque is also normal and no matter of concern, especially behind the lower front row. Since about ten years practically all US-Americans seem to be concerned having abnormally whitened teeth, and I predict they’ll get lots of additional dental probs later on. Cavities seem to always quickly go away after some sporadic “oil-pulling” (you can use any type of edible vegetable oil), especially if assisted by one drop of neem-tincture (very bitter, please spit out after about 1 minute, then rinse with water).
And here were two videos of Dr. Peter Glidden that were shared that I found very informative:
AND:
We should all look into the works of Dr Ray Peat. I found him through my years of health hobby. His main thesis is maintaining high and quality metabolism which means good thyroid function. Polyunsaturated fats (Pufa) is detrimental to health because it has multiple double bonds and unstable im air and heat..we are warm blooded animals and it would be safer to get most fat from animal sources and coconut oil which is saturated and more stable. In general but not strict he suggests that a diet of fresh dairy and fruit occasional meat and liver and shellfish well cooked veggies are good..he is not anti sugar and can be used as a supplement but better to get sugar from while sources..just a small sample of what he is about
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This is a controversial post! Based on my research, providing caution on the use of unsaturated fats is good for a certain crowd, as the hype of that market has gone into overdrive, however I don’t think its as easy as saying avoid polyunsaturated fats, as most sources high in polyunsaturated fats are high in omega 3. The body is supposed to have a certain omega 3 to omega 6 balance, and in many modern diets it is out of whack, due to farming methods. Simplified, Omega 3 comes from grass and plankton. If you eat animals that eat that, you get some of it. Omega 6 comes seeds and grains. In modern farming, many animals are no longer grass fed, but seed and grain fed, meaning the 3 to 6 balance is completely out.
For balance, the body needs both saturated fat (dairy, meat, coconut oil, dark chocolate) and unsaturated (oily fish, certain nuts and oils). They are both healthy in moderation or damaging in excess. You don’t want too much or too little. It also needs balance of all the omega’s (3,5,6,7,9). Again, not all bad or all good, you just need balance.
The fats you really want to avoid are trans or hydro fats (most chips, biscuits, pastries, french fries, frozen crumbed/battered fish – think commercialised packaged foods, where something unnatural has been done to it). And palm oil, you want to avoid it.
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I disagree how do you prove that omega 3 is essential.. it is still a very unstable substance.. sounds like a marketing scam to me
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The brain is made up of about 60% fat. About 15-20% of that is EPA/DHA, which is omega 3.
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By the way, I’m not saying you need to go out and buy a whole lot of fish oil supplements. Hopefully you don’t, depending on your diet, and there is certainly a lot of marketing at play there. But this stuff is in our bodies, playing an important role. Oily fish will give you the EPA/DHA directly, but it is not essential, or how would people living away from the coast survive? It’s not essential because our bodies can convert ALA (linoleic acid) into EPA/DHA so long as the enzyme systems which make the conversion possible (your vitamins and minerals) are functioning properly . Turmeric is also great to help that conversion. ALA sources are certain nuds, seeds, oils and grass (and therefore, small amounts in grass fed meat). So you see, unless you are vegan its impossible to avoid these polyunsaturated fats. And most vegans will eat nuts and seeds anyway. If you eat fish/fish oil you just save the body the need to convert. That’s why the important thing is balance. Not too much, not too little.
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I like Ray Peat too. I also respect a poster who appeared on his forum by the name of Yew-wei Tan. He claims that DHA turnover in the body is low to begin with and that endogenous regulation of the fatty acid, and not amount consumed, is what determines health outcomes. “Added exogenous DHA should be used if chronically deficient (eg: due to deficiency in early development), but beyond a “loading period” where DHA is consumed in higher amounts, added DHA becomes at best useless, and more likely harmful.”
Check out his blog post here: http://tanyewwei.com/blog/dha/
He also mentions that De Novo Lipogenesis, a process by which fatty acids are synthesised endogenously, could perhaps create enough DHA to satisfy the body’s needs without having to consume extra omega 3s.
So no, it’s not as simple as saying avoid PUFA, but it’s also not as simple as saying ‘all things in balance’. Ketotic diets work great for some people who have certain metabolic dispositions, whilst others do fine with balanced diets, and some do best on low fat diets. The body is truly complicated and I think we’re far from a perfect understanding of what works and when. How could we know? Mathis has shown how bad our physics is, and we can expect our biochemistry to be inadequate as well.
Probably best to focus on finding what works best for you, and eating things that are raised healthily and sustainably.
If any one cares for more links.
Denise Minger with a perspective on low-fat: https://deniseminger.com/2015/10/06/in-defense-of-low-fat-a-call-for-some-evolution-of-thought-part-1/
Peter with a perspective on ketosis:
http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/search/label/A%20brief%20discussion%20of%20ketosis
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Thanks cross for the reply I will check out the blog… i just don’t think hexane extracted seed oils of any kind would be safe to consume and health food stores and their foods are laoded with these oils
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Lots of interesting discussion put forward, a few new leads I shall investigate. The comments section at the Denise Minger link show it is a divisive subject. However If there seems to be one thing in common (with my research, comments here and content at the links given in this thread) it’s that we are getting too much Omega 6. That’s something that can be rectified by either cutting out all PUFA’s (including not just oils, but seed and grain fed animal/poultry/dairy, certain nuts, junk foods, the list goes on) or by fixing the 3/6 balance with more 3, or some combination of both.
I generally agree with the caution against seed oils.
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Yes I agree with you..and it is difficult to remove all pufa..the other point being might be that it’s like you said the ratio of fats particularly saturated to unsaturated that may be good enough
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Patricia and Ed Kane are interesting. The protocol on page 15 and the case studies that follow are worth a read. I liked how they explain the Johanna Budwig part of the story. I did her protocol off and on and had great respect for her. They answered my puzzlement about why the flax-cottage cheese combo only helped for a short time.
I read Udo Erasmus when his Fats That Heal – Fats That Kill came out. He suggested Hemp oil was the best ratio and it’s fascinating how close that is to what the researchers in Haifa and at Boston University concluded. I’m not sure where he got that, it’s been so long. His book came out in 1993, so maybe those researchers were publishing something around then. Funny that the Kane’s don’t mention hemp oil as far as I can recall, but it makes sense since they have a BodyBio product they sell.
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I should add however I agree the oxidisation of oils is a concern. As you say, polyunsaturated fats are worst for cooking due to their double bonds being most reactive to heat. Some oils handle heat better than others. I found this helpful guide:
http://www.cavemandoctor.com/2012/05/27/checking-your-oil-the-definitive-guide-to-cooking-with-fat/
In one of the videos Josh linked to in his initial post, Dr Peter Glidden advises never buying any oil in a bottle at all, due to oxidisation. That doesn’t sound very practical! But shows this is an important topic to consider.
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“Every living thing has its own frequency …”
I had occasion to be the patient of a chiropractor who noticed a chronic condition on my upper arm, and when I told him what a dermatologist called it (prurigo nodularis), he remarked, “I can cure that.” That perked up my ears, because I couldn’t get rid of it, I constantly had new outbreaks, the cause was unknown, and no pharmaceuticals could get rid of it, as the online forum dedicated to this chronic skin condition repeatedly confirmed, and in fact most sufferers who took drugs for it testified that a short term apparent cure was followed by a more virulent return.
I had to wait about five months for an appointment for the nutritional side of his ptactice, which was very busy, yet getting an appointment for a chiropractic adjustment had a brief few days waiting time, so numerous was his nutritional clientele.
Significantly, there was no mention of nutritional therapy on his website, which was so modest, I never would have selected this chiropractor from my online search, had it not been for the fact that I had learned from research into chiropractory that the Gonstead Method was the most sophisticated and advanced method, and this unimpressive man was the only one in my area. So off I went.
My chronic skin condition was addressed in a very unconventional way, in a back room, where hundreds of unfamiliar glass vials lined the walls. He and his assistant used those, together with muscle testing techniques, targeting every bodily organ, to fill out a form. From this initial diagnostic procedure, he was able to determine every sort of pathogen, and toxic chemical “chewing away” at my insides — often asymptomatically — and wreaking havoc in one way or another.
The glass vials were called digital homeopathic nosodes. The key to their working was “frequency.” Nowhere online could I find anything on digital homeopathic nosodes; only homeopathic nosodes. But here he was using them on me to “chelate” out of my body a whole host of viruses, bacteria, and toxins that didn’t belong there — one by one (the order of elimination being important). He showed me the list of invaders I had. “How do you get rid of them? I asked. He replied, “Food supplements.”
Each pathogen required a different protocol, usually for one week, followed by a diagnostic checkup to check for its disappearance, before moving on to attack the next one. Often the protocol was a two step process: taking an enzyme(s) on an empty stomach (Multizyme, Zymex, or Zymex II), waiting one hour, then taking various quantities of food supplements comprising one or all of three oils (black currant seed, sesame seed, or wheat germ), plus (individually or severally) Cataplex ACP, Spanish Black Radish, Thymex, plus specific Protomorphogens depending on in which organ the pathogen was located.
This methodology, after two years of hell, cured my prurigo nodularis internally, halting the eruption of new lesions. The topical cure for existing ones — the only thing that stopped the itching, and cleared up the infection — was Zorex Komplete Kare Spray (a mixture of Colloidal Silver, Iodine, and Vitamin D3).
We would speak from time to time, and this chiropractor disclosed a number of interesting things. He deliberately laid low, for fear of attracting attention and being shut down for curing people with this alternative method of anything from chronic problems to cancer, MS, etc. He had patients referred to him from 27 different countries and from 45 out of the 55 United States. He held occasional teaching seminars (unadvertised) for other healthcare providers, so they could learn to practice the digital homeopathic nosode methodology, among which there would be in attendance allopathic doctors. About the latter he said, allopathic doctors are provided with diagnostic and treatment protocols by their professional overseers, from which they cannot depart, or they will be struck off. And their records are monitored.
During one visit, he told me he had been contacted because someone he cured of pancreatic cancer was, it turned out, closely connected to a financial elite whose name I will not include here, because it might draw attention — so he was awaiting a conference call that afternoon from big shots (my phrase) interested in his treatment method. On my follow up the next week, the upshot of the conference call including big pharma reps was this: they were disinterested in the methodology when they learned the protocols were individual-specific, and not mass marketable.
The food supplements used in my treatment are made by Standard Process, a company founded by Dr Royal Lee in the early 20th Century. These products are not available over the counter. I stumbled upon them being offered on Amazon, and rang up Standard Process, to discuss that. Had they changed their policy? No. Those products are not ours. There’s no telling what’s in them, was the response.
When I tell my family, or friends, about how I approach health care, they roll their eyes, and think I’m a nutter. But I know firsthand the damage pharmaceuticals do. Some time ago, I had a tooth removed. That required a one week course of antibiotics. After that, I developed a case of brown tongue, that no amount of brushing or oral hygiene would erase. The antibiotics had interfered with my stomach’s ability to digest food. Remedy? Restore HCL using unrefined sea salt plus thiamine plus zinc — a remedy based on knowledge of nutritional chemistry. Who prescribed that? A “quack” chiropractor. Results? A pink tongue.
In the EU, the government has taken control of the supplements — Codex Alimentarius. And they’re after them here. When, if ever, will people draw a line in the sand? My chiropractor wonders.
Thank you, Josh, for putting up this forum on health.
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Clarification: I had the condition for two years prior to treatment, which lasted 14 weekly visits — about 3 months.
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Thanks for your contributions here and on other post. Sounds like you suffered from a similar condition I’ve been dealing with (IBS with Hidradenitis Suppurativa) for quite some time.
I made a lot of progress in the past couple years but I still haven’t found the source and cured my insides. Acupuncture has probably been the biggest help so far. It’s amazing how taking charge of your own health opens up a way of actually finding a cure, instead of just ‘managing’ it as the current medical establishment would want us to.
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So Benjamin linked to a supplement company and educator called ATP science. On their testimonials page a lot of people are saying they got help with IBS using their ‘gut right’ supplement. Maybe it could help you?
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Maybe Karl Seddon’s research regarding probiotics and gut health might also be of interest to you. He did suffer from IBS himself and seems to be a very nice and friendly guy.
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Aint no way, no how, am I gonna take advice from a cowboy call LeakyGut. No. Way. 😉
On a more serious note — I make kefir with raw milk. Seems to be helping the old auto-immune system (see asthma remedies below).
I take a spoonful of apple cider vinegar a day from those bottles that contain the “mother”. This stopped some nasty facial boils I used to get (“Hello Ladies!”) — I self-diagnosed it as over-production of calcium, which might be a load of cobblers but it did the trick.
I chew garlic (“Hello Ladies, again!”) to control my asthma and it freshen my teeth and gums.
I also use a Salt Pipe to replace my inhalers.
Um, oh yes, and Cod Liver Oil for my mind, joints whatever else it says on the label.
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One of THE best sources of vitamin C is sauerkraut at a whopping 700 mg per cup. Plus it’s an excellent probiotic. Dr Barbara Sennef shared a story about a bunch of cows severely poisoned by glyphosate who were cured by consuming sauerkraut juice, fulvic acid and humid acid. Chiropractor Dr. Eric Berg’s you tube channel is loaded with great info on nutrition. And finally, a long time ago I read about lead poisoning from kale that was grown in toxic soil, so I would not stick to one grower in order to decrease the risk. Plus, different soils offer a unique balance of nutrients so it’s good to mix things up rather than stick to one source. thepeopleschemist.com
offers natural supplements which I have been taking for years so check it out.
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“Barbara Seneff”
Could it be your are talking about Stephanie Seneff? She is certainly one of the top specialists warning about the genocide-level health dangers of glyphosate. Lots of interviews with her on Youtube. For example this one (with a very handy transcript):
https://highintensityhealth.com/stephanie-seneff-phd-gmo-foods-glyphosate-autism-obesity/
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You’re right, I made a mess of her name!
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Sauerkraut is great and perfectly illustrates how the food industry jumps on the bandwagon with these healthy old fashioned types of home made foods and completely destroys them. Anyone buying sauerkraut from shops, even from health stores in some cases , should be aware that if any heating that has been carried out in the fermenting process the beneficial bacteria in it will be destroyed. The best results are always obtained by getting your own hands wet and salty and doing the job yourself in the good old fashioned way.
Great addition to the site by the way.
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I tried Sauerkraut once and got nothing out of it – this is probably why, it was bought from the supermarket. Alas, in today’s world one cannot simply buy things off the shelf. We must research every item. Honey is another one of those foods ruined on supermarket shelves.
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Yes you must make it yourself and it tastes completely different different from those in sale. It tastes not sour but more acidic, something like ascorbic acid – very fresh.
I make it regularly, 2-3 cabbages in a glass bucket, cut and beaten,and pressed down so its water cover the top. Salt & herbs. Can be started upon after a week. You only need a big tablespoon pr day. The first day i notice there is a fight going on, after three days it is bliss in my stomach.
I dont understand why this is not a commercial product anywhere. When it is ready it is just to take a portion in a plastic bag and keep in the fridge. Why couldn’t a commercial actor place portions in the shop? There are health food producers making sauerkraut too, but its the same non probiotic version.
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This I will try. Thank you.
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Thanks for the contributions everyone.
I made two small batches of sauerkraut last night for the first time and hopefully they turn out. Over the past couple years I’ve developed my own regimen that includes whole food diet, avoiding anything processed, no drinking, no tobacco, essential oils, massage, acupuncture and chiropractic therapy (relieves the skin/organs -> bones -> spirit), and regular water & exercise. I do a pretty decent job of managing it but it’s exhausting at times and I’m shooting for an actual cure..
Never thought about the lack of quality sauerkraut in the grocery stores, though it makes sense given the lack of quality nutrition across the spectrum in the supermarkets. It’s a struggle to find quality organic products or get a consistent supply around here. Or the price is marked up considerably which isn’t good for anyone on a budget. It’s doubly hard when you have digestive issues like IBS since your system doesn’t always absorb what you’re putting in…it wasn’t until I started seeing an acupuncturist a few months ago did it seem my gut finally had the right conditions to start healing itself and take in some nutrition.
Which is also why I’m really grateful for Miles latest paper on charge and health. It matches my experiences and it seems like getting a consistent, healthy charge flowing throughout your body is essential, especially if you’re chronically sick. Since I developed this condition my overall health tanks around the start of winter and lately I figured it’s this part of the Earth receiving less direct charge. But the important bits to take-away from all of this are: establishing a healthy environment inside and out along with positive influences to keep it all running smoothly, and a positive, creative outlet particularly for any negative emotions or trauma. Avoid escapism, which doesn’t release emotions but bottles them up. Direct all anger and frustrations towards the people responsible for this mess, the spook aristocracy.
If I’m down often I’ll feel much better with a directed, well-placed public rant towards TPTB. Standing up for ourselves is a key part of healing our sick societies. That ‘Nietzschean’ Fighting spirit inside of me is sick and tired of all of crap, demands release!
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I find boric acid – supplement pill and molasses ( no sulfur / organic – put teaspoon in tea ) helps with joint pain .
Hemp seed oil helps with extending fast until lunch time .
And today I learned , be careful google image searching – prurigo nodularis –
So glad to were able to battle this successfully , Cancelled !
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Read about the great borax conspiracy anywhere online and you will find a lack of boron in the soil results in joint problems even in dogs in Jamaica, for example, with hip displasia. I bought a box of borax cleaning agent and used 1/8 of a tsp per quart of water (you drink it throughout the day) and the nodules in my joints receded (my fingers looked like claws, no longer), my joints in elbows and big toe healed, and I am totally healed as of a couple of years ago. I had a big problem. BIG. No longer. Big Pharma did not get paid. You need to dig relentlessly for the truth because the lies are so deep they’re like quicksand – they will exhaust you and you will settle for the b.s.. Just hang in there and plow through the obstacle course in your path as you research. By the way, you don’t need to buy the supplement (boric acid or whatever it’s called) because it’s borax and it’s cheap in the laundry aisle of any supermarket until it’s banned as a threat to the pill poppers. Hey, this is good news, so cheer up! I am so glad this worked for me and it’s available to anybody, even Jamaican dogs!
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I also tried Borax, and maybe it helped, i cannot say for sure, but it always makes me in good mood. A thing i noticed was that it somehow smelled fish when mixing it with water. And a very specific fish smell. Cod, and in particular the smell when it is boiling. I guess its boron content is volatile and is released immediately.
Very good idea of Josh to make this thread. One of the great perks with seeing through the bogus is of course good health. And happiness is no strange thing, it comes automatically with health.
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Walter Last’s ‘The Borax Conspiracy’ might have been the single most influential article in the rediscovery of boron/borax as a key nutritional supplement. A warning though: Borax significantly increases testosterone levels : )
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I haven’t tried this yet, but am interested. It seems there is a difference between Boron and Borax, with Boron being preferable. I’m not sure it significantly increases testosterone, so much as frees up bound testosterone, which for all intents and purposes amounts to the same thing. Testosterone is anti-inflammatory, so that might help explain why its good for painful joints. It could be working in other ways, as well.
https://atpscience.com.au/podcasts/episode-30-andropause-menopause-serms/?v=6cc98ba2045f
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COMPREHENSIVE LIST.
That’s what’s needed, along with references.
I’ve worked on that on and off for numerous years. My latest effort, which is from last year, is at http://l00k.createaforum.com/h/ . It still needs a lot of work, but it’s a pretty good start. It’s perhaps best to start with listing remedies for the major diseases first. So, like vitamin C from amla berry powder caps, or rosehip powder, for the adrenals and the blood vessels; B5 from rice bran also for the adrenals; magnesium malate or citrate for softening blood vessel plaque and also for better blood pressure levels and bone health etc; lecithin for removing plaque and for brain health; zinc for digestive health; silica from natural fiber for bone health etc. Those nutrients help prevent heart attacks and strokes by strengthening and cleaning the blood vessels etc. Occasional chaparral and other antiviral herbs help prevent most cancer. MMS, Miracle Mineral Supplement, which is sodium chlorite, i.e. NaClO2 (salt with 2 oxygen attached), is also a good antiviral that helps clear up many infections. I used it on tooth infections and it removed a swelling I had on my gum.
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FDA Corruption http://l00k.createaforum.com/h/fda-corruption/msg28/#msg28
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Ratschläge sind auch Schläge 🙂
Sorry folks, I could not resist to make a stupid comment, I’m sooo excited!
I’m a huge fan of Geerd Ryke Hamer’s work. I think he nailed it and then they made him lose it… So sad. Sharpstuff over at CF tried to break the basics down but what happened to “his” 🙂 thread is also sad. For those interested, there’s a pretty good german page: 5bn.de
Well, some claim, nutrition accounts for only 5% of your overall well-being. So it’s a good start I think.
For a health revolution I would put on my yellow vest immediatly!
Take care & thanks for creating this lurker’s paradise. You rock.
Your friend.
ps: attitude also matters 🙂
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Hadn’t heard of Hamer’s work. It is interesting, to say the least. Definitely worth looking into. If on criterion for sussing out the truth is to recognize that it is often the exact opposite of what we’re taught, then the notion that disease is actually a healing process and attacking the disease (with treatments like chemotherapy) actually attack the healing process would seem to qualify. I will say in regard to Hamer’s thoughts on Jews that chemotherapy is practiced on Jews in Israel, but as we know the elite could care less about the common schmuck. Here was a useful website I found in English: https://learninggnm.com/SBS/documents/gnm_therapy.html
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Hello Josh and everyone. Yes health matters, especially when we are getting older. I know Hamer’s works since 1997 and I think he made a great work by his understanding of the genesis of illnesses.
This is a site for his work : http://www.newmedicine.ca/
Please don’t read his page on Wikipedia, it’s pure disinformation (but we’re used to it).
My only daily supplement is vitamin C (I use chemical form, works well) since 20 years and I have no more colds and headaches. I take 3 grammes/day.
About milk, raw or not, I think it’s a food for calves and not for humans. I use only vegetable “milks” and particularly coco milk that is very healthy. My food is organic at 95%.
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I’m also a big believer in Hamer’s work. It really does make perfect sense to me.
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Anybody have any tips for chronic migraines?
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Josh, I mentioned in email the company ATP Science, (https://atpscience.com/) who sell products from natural ingredients, and do fantastic health related podcasts (with text copies) on all number of conditions and topics. Putting “migraine” into their search bar yielded 28 articles: https://atpscience.com/search-results/?q=migraine
That could be of help to you. I find it best to click on the article of interest and type a keyword into the ‘find on page’ function of your web browser, so you don’t need to read through all the text.
I briefly browsed a few articles, and it appears there can be many different causes of, and therefore many possible methods of treatment. Its best then to identify the type of migraine first, rather than seek a one size fits all cure. But if you are simply seeking pain relief, I have used Wintergreen Essential Oil for that purpose. One of its main components is actually used in NSAIDs. A drop or two diluted in coconut oil, rubbed on temples, forehead, or tense areas. Don’t ingest (its toxic). The essential oil market can be as corrupt as any other. I buy from Eden Botanicals. If you wish I can list the things I look for in an essential oil company. Remember I’m not a professional, just a chum who has done a lot research!
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That would be great — please do! It’s actually for my wife, who started to develop debilitating migraines last year…
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Check broadcast towers nearby too. Sometimes it takes a while to break down our body to the point of failure (symptoms). The recent conversation from Analog to digital TV added more immune burden than most know.
And turning your router off at night is a must.
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Wow, really looks like a wealth of information in their podcasts. I’ve already got some ideas of things she can try. I like that most (all?) of their podcasts are transcribed, since I usually prefer to read rather than listen. BUT: they’re speaking with Aussie accents, which makes it more fun to listen to.
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Yes its fascinating stuff, and the text is a Godsend! I wish the best for your wife. Its a travesty what the spooks have done to health and I’m glad to see this thread started.
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Josh — did you ever come away with any answers from your question regarding migraines?
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RT there were a lot of leads, but I’m now convinced vitamin A is the real culprit. We are working on reducing vitamin A in our diet, and the zeolite should arrive Thursday. So we’ll see if it helps!!
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I buy from Young Living. Would you say they’re “fishy?” Their prices are woohoo 🙂 but the quality of their products is top, I think.
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@Josh & Leaky Gut
I haven’t tried any Young Living products. They are one of two (along with DoTerra) major Multi Level Marketing (MLM) pyramid scheme companies, which I treat as suspect, and means you are paying a little extra simply to foot their marketing bills. For that reason I didn’t look too closely at them.
Here are the main things I look for:
*Price: Look for a company that has variety in prices. You should see high prices (eg. ~$100/30ml) for rarer oils (eg. Helichrysum, Verbena, etc…) and low prices (eg. ~$15/30ml) for common oils (eg. Tea Tree, Eucalyptus).
*A Certificate of Analysis should be made available, preferably on the product page. GC/MS tests are the most common. This gives you a % of all the components in the oil, which can be used to verify the product is pure. Pretty well all oils will have ‘100% pure’ on their label, but it doesn’t mean a thing.
*The term ‘organic’ doesn’t mean a thing either. All it needs for that is one carbon atom, which just about everything in the world has. However ‘Certified Organic’ is good to look for. It requires much stricter standards, but you might pay a little extra for it. The term ‘wildcrafted’ or ‘wild grown’ I also consider acceptable if the company otherwise shows high standards based on my criteria.
*Scientific name, which part of the plant the oil was taken from, and which country it was grown should be provided, either on the label or product page. (To ensure you buy best quality, research each oil so you get the right variety, from the right part of the plant, from the right climate).
The wildcard in all of this is the distillation method. Companies can tick all the above boxers but cut corners in the distillation process, by turning the heat to high, or speeding the process up, or any number of things, which can lead to inferior product. Unfortunately I don’t know how to verify which companies use correct practice and which don’t. You can only go on reputation, and your own trial and error.
You will likely find a few companies that tick all the above boxers. In which case I use things like shipping costs, and customers service, to narrow it down.
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Thanks Benjamin. This MLM scheme also bugs me a bit. (Oddly enough DoTerra was founded my former YL employees.)
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Chronic migraines:
To me it was allergies. Nuts and various things i don’t really need. Now i haven’t had migraine for years.
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I’m starting to believe my migraine episodes are triggered by low pressure weather systems , when the pressure number goes up quickly , I now know to get ready .
I go out for walk , do the exercise I’d been putting off .
Watch what I eat , no high salt or chocolate , less cafeine , best to actually not eat anything .
Remain calm , avoiding yelling ( difficult for an Irish dude ) .
Just to know there is a predictable cause helps .
Ever try using a vibrator on neck arteries and temples ?
At first this will increase the pain , but stay with it .
Josh , I have no idea what the weather conditions there are , but it may be worth looking into ,
maybe keep a log of conditions ( that’s what I did ) .
https://migraineagain.com/human-barometer-pressure-migraine/
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Josh, I just stumbled across this from Sloane about migraines:
https://medreview.wordpress.com/tag/forskohlii/
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This is great, thanks! She is taking magnesium but not as recommended here, and also not all the other recommended stuff. Earlier people were asking about her triggers. One is hormonal (i.e., related to timing of menstrual cycle). But there are others, mainly stress and not eating/drinking enough during the day (the two often go hand-in-hand so it’s hard to say). There is a possibility that drinking wine may also be a trigger. So I think there are a lot of different things going on, though I suspect they are all related to the same underlying systemic cause, since this is a pretty new thing for her.
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Hi Josh, I have been dealing with migraines for years. Here is what has helped me:
1. Spend as much time outside as possible. Walk (or exercise) every day for at least 30 minutes. Do not wear sunglasses when outside. If you cannot get outside, sit within 6 feet of a window for as long as possible. All sentient beings need sunlight!
2. Eat all meals within 8-12 hours. The body needs to fast every day for as long as possible. A daily16 hour fast is ideal.
3. Avoid sugar, gluten, alcohol, dairy and nuts. Try eliminating one at a time for 30 days to see if it helps.
4. Go to bed by 10pm and sleep at least 7 hours a night.
5. Eat 1-2 dates per day. Heat them in the oven for a few minutes and they are delicious. They have a lot of sugar so only eat a couple per day. They help to clean the digestive tract.
6. Use a breathing device. It helps with all sorts of things: weight management, allergies, pain, headaches, insomnia, anxiety, autoimmune issues, etc:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W35AX7A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is plastic and will need to be outgassed for a few weeks before use.
http://www.intellectbreathing.com/device/
Here is a great magnesium product. I recommend the powder and add it to hot water–taste pretty good to me. (I hate to support Amazon, but is has good information. You can buy items elsewhere): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WVYB8Y?aaxitk=eICFQXG5yWfFYWGDQYgwtw&pd_rd_i=B000WVYB8Y&pf_rd_p=3ff6092e-8451-438b-8278-7e94064b4d42&hsa_cr_id=9723417500801&sb-ci-n=asinImage&sb-ci-v=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F715w9OE3YOL.jpg&sb-ci-a=B000WVYB8Y
On another note, brush teeth with organic baking soda. It is the cheapest and healthiest way to keep teeth clean.
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Hi Raven, thanks for much for your advice! I know I still owe you a reply to your last e-mail. If it was an easy response, I would have answered already. Please be patient with me!
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Josh, I have been dealing with chronic migraines for years. If you want to email me, please feel free. My migraines are allergy induced. I do various things to eliminate allergies and avoid triggers. I also use a breathing machine, see link below. (FYI, it is made of plastic and needs to be out-gassed for a few weeks before use.)
1. Avoid sugar, gluten, dairy and nuts. (I am able to eat almonds, but everyone is different.)
2. Get as much natural sunlight as possible. Walk at least 30 minutes a day and spend as much time outside as possible. If you cannot get outside, sit within 6 feet of a window. Do not wear sunglasses when outside. Sunlight is essential for all sentient beings!
3. Eat all meals within an 8-12 hour window. The body needs to fast between 12-16 hours a day. Eating all food within eight hours is ideal.
4. Eat 1-2 dates per day. This cleans out the digestive tract. You can heat them in the oven for a few minutes and they taste DELICIOUS! They are high in sugar so you can only eat a couple.
5. Never consume more than 15 grams of carbs per meal.
6. Go to bed by 10pm and sleep at least 7-8 hours.
FYI, on another topic, brush teeth with organic baking soda. It is the cheapest and most effective toothpaste.
Here is the breathing machine and info (I hate to support Amazon, you may be able to find it elsewhere) This device helps with pain, allergies, anxiety, insomnia, autoimmune issues, respiratory issues, etc :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W35AX7A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.intellectbreathing.com/device/
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Hey Josh, sorry for the double posts about health suggestions. I received an error message on the first one and thought it did not go through, so I posted a new one. Technology is not my strong suit! No pressure about a response, I understand. Hope your wife is feel better : )
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Hello Josh,
I have a couple of posts to add to the blog that I’m sure will be useful, but as I was catching up on the comments I saw your request. I recently purchased a Multi Radiance Medical Infrared and Pulsed Laser home use device called a QT Solo, after watching the linked video below. I also bought the 4-piece adapter kit with polished glass attachments to use on nostril and ear openings, acupuncture points and auriculotherapy points. We wanted something for my 93 year old mother-in-law who gets regular headaches. I used as per the video on her for a few minutes over two days last week and she hasn’t had a headache since. I need to crack open my Grays Anatomy to learn more about the Spheropalatine Ganglion. If Near Infrared and Pulsed Laser light can stop the kinds of pain in the small sample studies these guys are talking about, including long-standing migraine sufferers, that alone should be cause for more widespread knowledge. There’s a lot more to the story and I’ll try to present what I’ve found in concise posts as time goes on. For now, check this one out. Hope it helps your wife. You may be able to source a similar hand-held device cheaper somewhere, Alibaba perhaps. I like the assurance of warranty and service nearby in Ohio.
https://www.lasertherapyu.org/webinars/pre-recorded-webinars/october-2018
I had to register awhile back and I just logged back in there to get the video link. It’s a snap, so you shouldn’t have any difficulty.
John
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John, thanks so much for this and the other advice you’ve shared! I’m curious if you have also tried to reduce your retinol load and if so, have you noticed any changes yourself?
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Josh – yes, I think my retinol load is reducing since I’ve been eating very little of it, for about 4 months now, and I’m noticing minor skin conditions improving, less tinnitus, some vision improvement. I’m looking forward to making a 3-sided booth to hang Near Infrared LED panels from, for 15-minute daily sessions. I anticipate a boost in health and energy from that over time. The final proof for me will be normal Thyroid Stimulating Hormone numbers. I don’t believe the thyroid can’t heal. There are far too many legitimate and extensive testimonials from folks who used the Marshall Protocol to do just that. Since it required a very low Vitamin D intake, and regularly blood-tested, I assume many of these people also inadvertantly reduced their retinol intake as well. That’s just a idea, no data to back it. Either way, enhanced ATP production, all by itself, can probably work miracles.
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So how does one go about reducing one’s retinol load? I know I should read the e-book, but I’m a bit pre-occupied with other pursuits…
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Eating foods without Retinol, or very low amounts. Beef, chicken breast, bison, some cuts of lamb, turnip, parsnip, white potato (no skin), oats, light colored beans, cauliflower, buckwheat, olive oil, Brazil nuts, macadamia nuts, safflower oil, rice, onions 4iu/cup, millet 5iu/cup, radish 8iu/cup, tahini 10iu/Tbsp, filberts 11iu/oz, lentils 16iu/cup, English walnuts 23iu/cup, barley hulled 22iu/half cup.
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Hi Josh, tried this once but it didn’t post.
I recently bought a TQ Solo from Multi Radiance Medical after watching this video.
https://www.lasertherapyu.org/webinars/pre-recorded-webinars/october-2018
You have to register to watch, but it’s a snap.
Tried the technique on my 93 year old mother-in-law and she hasn’t had a headache in a week. I bought the 4-piece kit with polished glass attachments so I could use the rod shown in the video to get Near InfraRed and Pulsed Laser to her Spheropalatine Ganglion. It’s pretty simple. The doctors discussing their patients cover pain from long-standing migraine attacks to that of trigeminal neuralgia.
Hope that helps. Maybe you could find a practitioner who has one of these devices. It only takes three minutes in each nostril. We did that protocol for two days in a row.
Pretty amazing, even if we need to repeat it occasionally.
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Did you read last new Miles’ paper ?
It gives rather good news and it talks about our health.
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On the third line of his new paper (cited above), he gives hyper-link to “Solar minimum”, but the link is dead (404 error). Was it on his science site ?
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Yes, it is on his science site (November 27, 2018).
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In order to come to understand that one, you have to come to grips with this one: http://milesmathis.com/cycle.pdf
For me the most astonishing part of his paper explaining the solar cycle is in the addendum at the bottom where he shows a plot of the solar cycle against the positions of Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Uranus. Interocular trauma warning!
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That paper is devastating. Along with his analysis of atmospheres and then of the moon Enceladus (Saturn’s baby), I consider among his most important papers proving his theory at the macroscale in the most blatant manner.
The Strange Moon Enceladus
the Unified Field
explains the Atmosphere
including the non-layering of O and N
Sorry, those aren’t necessarily health-related but certainly helped me understand the charge field a lot better.
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Yes, Josh, as I’m translating his last paper, I’m reading “cycle”. Very interesting !
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Re: Miles’s new paper Making the Connection
“… I was finally able to link the sun to my belly” reminded me immediately of the “solar plexus”.
I was trying to find out where the concept of the stomach being a plexus with the word “solar” as its descriptive adjective came from. Sources say it’s an ancient concept. The body has other plexuses: nervous plexus, choroid plexus, venous plexus, cardiac plexus, and celiac plexus (a medical synonym for solar plexus) — solar alone having an extra-anatomical connotation that connects to, of all things, the Sun … and doesn’t that mean photons? That intrigues me.
Interesting that all online definitions I read of the term “solar plexus” made a point of readily offering an explanation for the word origin — “referring to resemblance between the radial network of nerves and ganglia and the rays of the sun.” Could this be deliberate misdirection? Why make a point of mentioning this?
On a language nerd website there’s a discussion about this very origin, the unanimous upshot being that the solar/celiac plexus anatomically bears no resemblance to the rays of the sun; it looks like all the other plexi: an intertwined network of vessels or nerves. [Latin root: braid] So others are curious and baffled about the origins of “solar” plexus.
And why we have a “solar” anything in our bodies …. And how it’s located in our gut. Is our gut some sort of solar/photon collector? Perhaps we’re not supposed to know this.
Stay out of the sun! You’ll get cancer. (Stay away from those photons, stay away from the light.)
When they’re messing with your gut, your digestion with processed food and drugs, they’re messing with your solar plexus.
And when they’re messing with your head with all these projects (chaos, destruction of family, fake shootings, drug addictions, erosion of freedoms, etc) , they’re messing with your solar plexus, too. You feel powerless, you feel confused, you feel afraid: all erode your power, identity, and self esteem because you are blamed for all that’s wrong with the world, remember?
There is a solar plexus chakra, in a meta-physical sense, said to be the seat of one’s identity, self esteem, and power. Its located right in the center of people. (Like the sun.) It’s the third one up after the base/ground chakra and the sexual chakra; one runs into this via yoga, and new age spookery.
I would not accept any new age interpretation of the solar plexus chakra, but I do have personal experience of it. Example: a betrayal is experienced like a kick in the stomach. It is a meta-physical blow that can be “felt” right in the center of one’s being. How can this be, when it’s not a physical blow. I also believe the solar plexus is the seat of one’s personal integrity. If I ever lied or cheated, I felt the loss of my integrity there, in the center of me. My solar plexus has turned out to be my personal integrity monitor.
The connection between the sun and the gut; between photons and the essence of who we are. Fascinating food for thought. For me at least.
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Does anyone have experience with a frugivore (predominantly fruit) diet? In terms of anatomy, frugivores are our closest animal. http://creationislove.com/wp-content/uploads/comparative-anatomy-of-frugivore-768×1299.jpg
We share ~98-99% DNA with the chimpanzee and bonobos, so perhaps we should be eating similar to them? They eat intuitively, without the corrupt science and nutrition education of our species.
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I don’t myself and for me I would feel unsatisfied but I think it may have benefits especially being sick or with cancer etc
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It’s possible. I hesitate, knowing that the fruitarian diet was promoted by both Gandhi and Steve Jobs. But maybe they were meant to black wash it. It seems rather extreme. I feel like a proper diet shouldn’t need to be so extreme.
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Yes I don’t think I could eat fruit only, it would appear to lack too many things nutritionalists – spooky or not – agree are essential. However in our society we’re recommended 2-3 pieces a day, and I’m now wondering if that number isn’t considerably low. Could it be doubled or tripled? I’m just speculating here, based on anatomy. The only drawback to large fruit consumption is high carb and sugar content, but given they are natural carbs and sugars, not refined or processed, it may be a non issue.
I became interested in this only recently, when I saw the chart showing how similar we are to frugivores (which I really should have considered more keenly before, one of those duh moments). I had no idea Gandhi and Jobs promoted a fruit diet. It does make you hesitate, but we can easily disregard anything they ever said on the topic and do independent research.
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I think it could and should be higher. But the soil quality has been so depleted over the years so fruit and other food we have today lacks the nutritional content it once had, so the potential benefits of the fruit diet are probably not what they use to be or not what they could be. And I agree about Gandhi and Jobs.
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The fruit diet is currently being promoted by a guy called the Medical Medium (Anthony William). He does suggest vegetables as well, but mostly fruit. He claims angels and guides instruct him and he then shares the info in books. There are some fantastic recipes in his books (which I saw at the library and would be happy to share).
However, most people would become very sick if they mostly ate fruit because of the high sugar content. And I would kindly suggest avoiding all people who claim to connect with the spirit world. But like all good con artists, there is often a bit of good advice in the mix which is hard to find.
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Yes I’ve upped my fruit intake the last few days as an experiment, but noticed too much makes me sickly. The body has its own warning signs I guess. 5 pieces spread out through the day seems to be ok.
I connected to spirits regularly in my younger days, but too much Vodka really is no good for you, so I stopped. Life would be much easier if Angels gave us all the answers.
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FRUIT DIET.
Yes, I was vegan for 20 years, 1976-96. Bananas were my main food. I still have 4 or 5 bananas a day, but now only in the morning. I blend them with water so that I can drink enough water each day. Otherwise, I don’t like water much. We have well water, which doesn’t taste so great plain. But I like that it contains no chlorine or fluoride. I used to have about ten bananas a day blended with only small amounts of water, but now I have 2 quarts of water a day with just a few bananas. I used to have potatoes or sunflower seeds and celery for my evening meal.
In 1990 I had lockjaw for a few days, so I could only drink liquids, as my jaw muscles were stuck shut. In 1992 my feet were burning and the skin was cracked so I saw a Natural Hygiene doctor who said I had protein shortage and she recommended more vegs and nuts. Later I decided that Natural Hygiene had very limited health info. I started to get severe symptoms by 1996, like muscle cramps, chronic fatigue, weight loss, tooth aches, some dizziness and backaches etc. The worst was when my butt was too tender to sit or even lay down. I read It’s All in Your Head at that time, which said a lot of my symptoms could be from mercury poisoning from amalgam fillings. It recommended a non-vegan diet, so I started having eggs and some dairy and spirulina etc and my symptoms subsided pretty quick. I added salmon and poultry to my diet 5 or 6 years later. So I was vegetarian for 28 years.
About 2 years ago I had a lot of constipation, so I looked up remedies and found James Sloane’s info. I had read numerous alternative doctors’ material before that, especially Dr. Bruce West and later Dr. Joseph Mercola. I thought Mercola was one of the best, but now I think Sloane has much better info. I found that my constipation was cured by increasing my water intake from 1.5 quarts a day to 2 quarts. Also, slippery elm bark powder recommended by Sloane helped. I’ve also been taking amla berry powder for vitamin C and other nutrients and magnesium malate, all advised by him. The magnesium has helped my muscle cramps and headaches quite a bit, I think.
Here’s an article that says vegans and vegetarians don’t get enough of several nutrients https://www.alexfergus.com/blog/8-proven-reasons-why-vegan-and-vegetarian-diets-easily-ruin-your-body . At the end it mentions problems with soy, but Sloane said the claims against soy are myths. So you have to compare each claim against others to see what seems most correct. Sloane seems most correct to me most of the time. Here’s a link I use for his forum, which is no longer new, but still good: https://www.alexfergus.com/blog/8-proven-reasons-why-vegan-and-vegetarian-diets-easily-ruin-your-body
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Here’s the link for Sloane that I meant to copy: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acurezone.com+%22truth+in+medicine%22&ie=&oe=
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Thanks for the detailed reply, sounds like you learnt some lessons the hard way. That matches what I’ve heard about collagen being a big issue for vegans, as there is a certain essential amino acid you can only get from animal collagen, which does have quite large ramifications for vegans over time. It’s interesting that certain seafood is high in B12, collagen, protein and fats – just one food would potentially solve a lot of problems for vegans, but it goes against their ethos.
I was reading through some of James Sloane’s articles earlier today from the link provided in Josh’s initial post (quoting yourself). It seems very good.
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I think the problem with soy is that it is now almost all GMO. Also, soy acts as estrogen in the body which is a nightmare for men. Too much estrogen for women can cause early menopause. This is what I have read, but cannot say 100% if it is true since sources are always suspect. But I try to avoid soy products. FYI, Trader Joe’s which makes a ton of their own products, adds a lot of soy to their food. Whole Foods does too. Since I do not trust T J’s or W Fs, the soy additive may be done on purpose to cause us harm. Or maybe it is done to make money for the major soy farmers and Big Food. And then there is Monsanto…
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Eating right.
Easier said than done. I found out the first advice is to avoid hydrogenated fats, and trans fats. Others have also already pointed out this but it is very important, and there is place for saying more. Hydrogenation is breaking up molecules and make it diverge from fats. Carbohydrates are a very large group of molecules and there is a short way from fats and oils to petrol. Meaning these products are almost plastic.
It is easy to understand what happens when eating liquid plastic like margerine. Plastic in the body will insulate and ruin the electric system of the body. And your hunger will be the first victim. To have an intelligent hunger, you must get information from all the cells, which goes by electricity, but if they somehow are blocked, you will become in a position where you take choices based upon blindness, and you might start eating very bad things. Ending up spicing up everything to the ridiculous is also typical.
Check yourself, how well do you taste? Can you discern between different fats and oils? Do you immediately taste it if they have put horse meat in minced meat?
Only true butter and pure oils are good enough for us.
When you have got all the fake fat out of the body, sorting out how to eat right is possible.
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HEALTH MYTHS.
There are a lot of myths about health, many probably promoted by conventional med, or the governors. Sloane exposed a great many such myths, which you can find here:
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1012&bih=449&ei=v20pXPm9H7OfjgSh1JiADg&q=site%3Acurezone.com+%22truth+in+medicine%22+myth&oq=site%3Acurezone.com+%22truth+in+medicine%22+myth&gs_l=psy-ab.12…0.0..906464…0.0..0.0.0…….0……gws-wiz.xKgE6JcI6Tg
I believe he also had a list of such myths on his website, http://medcapsules.com
Sloane is like Miles in being able to expose scams and provide detailed analysis (but of health info). As far as I know, he no longer posts online. He was talking about writing a book, but I never heard if he completed one. I see that he also has these two sites, which he last posted to in 2015 & 2013: https://medreview.wordpress.com and https://medproductreview.wordpress.com/
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Sorry to say, but James Sloane is Hveragerthi at curezone.com. He is the most annoying spook of them all. This, because he is clever at his disinfo campagne. He probably have some medical education, as he is always able to find some info on what he pushes. Also his level of discretion makes him differ a lot from the bullies usually pestering curezone. He speaks a lot of truth to build up trust before going to the aimed fallacy. But the site you provided have a set of articles on his themes which shows what he is up to.
http://medcapsules.com/info/
He aims for the most of the hot themes in alternative medicine and goes directly against it. .This is his main interest, and he uses allopathic research to prove it wrong. As if they were interested in giving real herbs a fair test.
But this is the problem – alternative medicine does not collect results and make statistics. Its a very weak side, but practioners are usually busy with healing not statistics, therefore the alternative has an open side for attack.
Here is a part of his rant against the hostile environment at curezone. https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1863352#i
“”And when people constantly post attack after attack the moderators turn a blind eye. There is one poster on the “Liver Flush Debate” forum that has posted nothing but attacks but the only threat of banishment was against me for posting “objectionable material”. Problem is that the “liver flush” supporters consider any and all evidence proving liver flushing is bogus as being objectionable. So why is there even a debate board if you are not allowed to debate and only personal attacks are allowed by the “liver flush” supporters? Same thing happened on the Acid-Alkaline Debate forum. I was banned for discussing how the body actually regulates its pH. As I have aid so many times it is not what you know on Curezone, it is who you know. But Curezone’s readership has also dropped considerably just in the last few years. When people are dealing with their health they do not want to come somewhere to read the personal attacks and worse quackery being presented as health promoting.””
Yes, anyone who have tried Liver flush, knows that it works, and is immune against “scientific proof” to the contrary. And it is not religion, it is experience. When you know for sure, you stop debating. Sorry but this guy is war to the core, and he must be treated like it.
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Runar, I believe you’re way wrong and I’m greatly inclined to disbelieve you obviously. I tried liver flushes and didn’t notice significant results. I even wrote up stats on those who tried the flushes at Curezone and what results they reported, which were mostly favorable. But that could easily be the placebo effect. Sloane said taking a small amount of bitters is all it takes to flush the liver, via the vagus nerve, I believe. He often referenced actual scientific studies, which often included studies done on herbs and other supplements. And I believe he often pointed out that we need to be careful when reading studies to realize that many of them are done by those who have conflicts of interest, such as drug companies and their agents. Sloane said flushes for gallstones are nonsense, because what comes out are not real gallstones, but are produced by the ingredients of the treatments, which is proven by lab results. You sound as though you think every finding in health science is wrong or unreliable. I think most such findings are true, except those involving allopathic drugs and many expensive mainstream therapies. Even those are probably fairly true with respect to the reported side effects, but not with respect to the effectiveness of the meds or therapies.
I provided links to Sloane’s statements about health myths. I challenge you to find any falsehoods in any of those statements.
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Liver de-tox ? Could be as simple as 1 oz. of fresh lemon juice , half hour before first meal each day .
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That comment should have ended with, “It’s alimentary, Dr. Watson.”
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Ouch , I need a nurse , you have wounded my Pun_knee Bone !
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I would like to know more about how to get plastic out of the body. In what form is the plastic? What foods contain it?
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On plastic…
Phthalate’s are a plastic. They are found in many things we may come in contact with, including household cleaners, fragrances and cosmetics, and perhaps the most scary of all – in some capsules. Read your supplement label, look for any of these terms: HPMCP (hydroxypropyl methylcellulose phtalate), Hypromellose pthlalate, enteric coating, time release, delayed release, CAP (Cellulose acetate phthalate), cellacefate. This type of coating on capsules is designed to survive stomach so the ingredients get released in the intestines. [Not to be confused with cellulose, which is naturally abundant in plants, or HPMC (minus the P for Pthalate) aka Hypromellose. HPMC may still present a problem, as it is a synthetic derivate of cellulose, and classified as a non-fermentable fibre, meaning its hard for the body to break down – but its not a plastic. I’m not sure if “modified cellulose” refers to HPMC or HPMCP.]
Xenestrogens are a plastic. They may be found in: sunscreens, preservatives, food colouring dyes, insecticides, cosmetics, nail polish, fragrances, soaps, toothpastes, detergents, laundry products, pesticides, herbicides.
Tooth filings may be made from plastic resins these days.
Melted plastic will created formaldehyde, which is actually a similar by-product you get from alcohol.
Of course never microwave anything in plastic, or heat plastic with food in it.
Microplastics may end up in the ocean, be consumed by the fish, who are then consumed by us, meaning they end up in us.
Plastic from containers, wraps and bottles can actual seep into their contents in trace amounts as well. The way they test to see if fighters have taken IV is to test for plastic in their urine – so plastic seeps into the IV fluid, from the plastic bags and tubes. (source: https://atpscience.com/podcasts/episode-160-natural-vs-pharma-diuretics/)
So what is the solution to all this? Avoid all of the above as much as possible. Use glass, ceramic, stainless steel, cardboard, china, etc… instead of plastic.
How do we get rid of them once they are in our body? It seems they get detoxed out by the liver, which is like the bodies big cleaning organ. For proper function of the liver its vitally important to have all the vitamins, minerals, amino acids and polyphenols. Herbs/foods (I know of, there are no doubt others) that can also aid the liver are turmeric, withania (ashwagandha), rosemary, schisandra, shilajit, dried chaparral powder (for a short time only), beets, pomegranate. One of the consistent effects of plastic in our bodies is to create an unnatural estrogen dominance, so you could perhaps research how to offset that with herbs/food/lifestyle. Women seem particularly at risk, given their high use of cosmetics.
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Benjamin, sounds like good info. I hadn’t heard about plastics used for fillings. I think ceramics are best and maybe composites, though I don’t know what’s in composites offhand. I didn’t know about plastics in gel caps either. It seems that the caps should be okay from most health food stores, but I know that not everything in health food stores is truly organic. Sloane has pointed out that pills are often coated with something that makes them indigestible too. He also promoted a lot of the kinds of herbs that you mention. He said pau d’Arco for viruses shouldn’t be taken for more than a couple weeks straight, because the body can become intolerant of it or something like that, but he didn’t say that about chaparral, which is also good for viruses, which he said are the main cause of cancers. So would you explain why you say to take chaparral for only a short time? It’s much easier to take in powder form than pau d’Arco is, as the latter is very bitter.
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Gel caps are made from gelatin, which is one of the more trustworthy ingredients, but nothing is completely reliable. Gelatin comes from animals. Was it healthy, grass fed, fed non GMO? You won’t know.
Most caps are not trustworthy as you can’t guarantee their ingredients are non-synthetic, non-GMO, and free of chemical solvents in the extraction. It’s for this reason I try to avoid them, or if I do buy, split them open and pour their contents in water, so as not to consume the capsule. I don’t know if this can be done for all caps, but it can for those containing herbs/natural ingredients. It can’t with time release/delay release capsules.
Other than gelatin, if you have to consume capsules, here are ingredients I accept, (some more begrudgingly than others): Pullulan, magnesium stearate, maltodextrin, lecithin, carnauba wax, alcohol/ethanol, vegetable glycerin (aka glycerol, glycerite), chicle, gum arabic.
Here are ingredients I don’t accept: HPMCP (as above), Glycerin (non-vegetable), hydrogenated oils (soybean, sunflower, cottonseed, corn, etc…), “Gum base” (which could contain up to 50-70 synthetic ingredients, including petroleum and all sorts of junk), BHA/BHT (preservatives).
Cellulose aka HPMC aka Hypromellose is generally on my don’t accept list, unless you know for sure the company is trustworthy.
There are many many more ingredients you might find on labels, which I haven’t researched yet. I’ve too have read many ingredients in pills/capsules may interact with/prevent the main ingredients absorption.
Chaparral is one of those divisive ones that some say is high risk, others say is low risk if presented the right way, so I said for a short time only to reduce risk. But I’m no professional.
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Technically it is not plastic, as plastic is fully solid, but the purpose of hydrogenated fats is to make a liquid plant oil semi solid in room temperature, to make it stable and to increase shelf life.
The molecular structures of hydrogenated fats is diverse, as the molecules are broken down in the process, and hydrogen is added and it attaches where it can.
Not eating anymore of those products should be enough for taste to reappear again, as it did to me. The body gets rid of these products without any extra efforts.
The idea of conservatives and preservatives are contrary to the idea of food. We cook and fry, beat, cut, and blend, all this to make sure cells are broken and the nutrition gets ready and easier to take up. We want food which falls apart, not something which lives forever.
The hydrogenate fats are found at large in the section of the marked where you find cakes living for years, so called mummy cakes. Shun this, also snack bars and chocolate are usually full of wrong fats. But looking further at the marked will in the end just appeal to the whole-food idea. Make your own food from whole ingredients.
Also when searching for ” hydrogenated fats plastic” we see that the defenders of margerine and shortening are out in pack and scoring highest at google. Somebody have once said that these fats are just a molecule away from being plastic, and that is a myth they love to bust. Sure, even the sentence is wrong, it should have said “an atom away”.
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Thank you Runar and Benjamin.
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Requesting advice re. constipation, please.
My wife is a fair-complected, Swedish-Irish woman, blood type AB positive (if that makes any difference).
She goes days on end without being able to poop — a lifelong problem. She’s got a special ergonomic toilet stool that helps her not strain, but when stuff does move, sometimes it’s in hard masses; other times it just won’t move at all, making her nauseous and miserable. Everything under the sun has worked (or seemed to) — once in a while.
Advice solicited earnestly. And thank you in advance.
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I know someone with a similar complaint. A woman who identifies strongly as Swedish-American. She has additional problems: sleep disorder (can’t sleep until nearly dawn), and perfectionism (self-judgement). All three sound to me very stress-related, but of course you can’t just advise, relax, chill.
I recall reading about fluoride and sleep disorder. Just now I searched Duckduckgo for FLUORIDE CONSTIPATION. From the second hit:
https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/fluoride/constipation/
Who have Constipation with Fluoride – from FDA reports
Constipation is found among people who take Fluoride, especially for people who are female, 60+ old also take medication Cymbalta, and have Sleep disorder. This study is created by eHealthMe based on reports of 829 people who have side effects when taking Fluoride from FDA, and is updated regularly.
[followed by detailed stats from the study]
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A packet of fig rolls
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Magnesium daily build up to 800 mg a day and make sure her thyroid is ok
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I personally got benefit alternating between prunes and black olives each morning on an empty stomach.
I second what Spondive and L Kinder said above. Thyroid issues can cause it. Magnesium deficiency can also cause it (if she experiences muscle cramps and/or high blood pressure as well it is likely this). If you are going to supplement Magnesium I believe citrate, malate or aspartate are considered the best forms.
For other ideas I’ve gathered in my own research (I’m not an expert):
Dehyrdration can cause it, so drink lots of water.
Fibre can help stool binding, but if you get too much and its already tightly bound, then it might not help at all. Insoluble fibres are better than soluble fibres though, as they will help the mechanics of it a bit better (things like beans, vegetables, berries, grapes, kiwi, pineapple, figs, walnuts, almonds, rice bran).
Foods commonly thought to help make bile or act as a laxative: Flax seed, green bananas, lemon juice, garlic, globe artichokes.
Cholagogue Herbs help make bile and Choleretic Herb help the flow (google them).
Fermented foods will help for some but not others pending the state of their gut. Things like sauerkraut and kefir (see our conversation above on sauerkraut).
You also need the amino acids and B Vitamins. Meat, eggs and seafood are common, but there are host of things you can google. (Ironically, many of these foods are high in iron, which can cause constipation, so it depends how much you have in your diet currently. A lot, and you might need to cut back. A little, and you might need to increase).
Just as important is what not to eat. Processed grains (white bread, white rice, white pasta, or any wheat products in general) can be a cause, so it might be a good experiment to cut those out for a few weeks to see if it makes a difference. Ditto refined and processed sugars, junk foods.
I hope amongst all of that you can find some answers!
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Yes, fiber generally helps prevent constipation. Flax seed, slippery elm bark etc. But Don’t use psyllium. It’s too harsh, I heard. I agree with what Benjamin said about Magnesium (citrate, malate etc). Avoid magnesium oxide or hydroxide, which are too harsh also and harm the intestinal lining. But the main thing for me was to have 2 quarts of water a day. When I had reduced it to 1.5 quarts a day, I got very bad constipation (glycerin suppositories helped).
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Also mandarin oranges seem to work well as a natural laxative. My son has constant constipation due to his mother over medicating him and having an extremely picky diet. So I have a constant supply with me and have seen the results first hand of it relieving the constipation moving the bowels.
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“And I still think anxiety/depression/stress/lonliness plays a part.” (ss1.pdf)
Miles, may I recommend an activity? I’ll make a similar recommendation for others here: I think contradance is great, physically and emotionally. It would be difficult to feel bad at one. It’s a revival movement, mostly in the US, started by folk hippies in the 1970s. You’ll find a community of smart, friendly people, all ages.
You can show up alone or with someone. Each dance will go on about 20 minutes; you’ll get a workout while holding many ladies in your arms. The bands are usually good. Often the style is “old-time”, jazzy hillbilly versions of trad. Celtic tunes.
As you can see from the pictures, the dancers don’t wear funny costumes or boots; it isn’t square-dance or C/W. They wear loose, summery clothes, because they expect to perspire. It isn’t a singles club, which is a good thing. But I did meet my wife at a barndance, here in Chicago. I’d been going for years; the point wasn’t necessarily to meet someone, it was to have one good day in hell, every week or two.
The one in SF, linked below, meets 2nd and 4th Saturdays. A bit of a hike from Taos, but maybe you can carpool. Don’t let it throw you that it’s at a lodge, it’s at where ever they found a suitable room. Contra dances are in schools, churches, taverns, clubs; where ever dancers find a big wooden floor for low rent.
If you’re a beginner, arrive early for instruction. Although there isn’t too much to learn. It’s very reduced-instruction-set, compared to ballroom or squares or c/w line.
http://folkmads.org/
Contra Dance Santa Fe, SF Megaband, Caller TBA
January 12, 2019 at 7:00 pm – 10:30 pm
1125 Cerrillos Rd, Santa Fe, NM 87505
$8 members/$9 non-members/students with ID half-price
Instruction at 7:00 p.m. Dance 7:30-10:30 p.m.
Odd Fellows Hall
NM FolkMADS General Hotline: (505) 289-2992
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Thank You, advice people.
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Hello everyone, thanks for the subject Josh. I stumbled across a geologist, Grant Genereux, in Alberta, Canada, who wrote three books (free) on subclinical retinol toxicity. He has disproven the flawed animal studies in the early 1900’s that supposedly proved retinol was a vitamin. A strict zero-retinol intake over 18 months reversed his eczema, kidney disease, chronic fatigue, brain inflammation, and failing eyesight. He’s been on an approximation of this diet for over 5 years and raises very healthy gerbils on a zero-retinol diet.
He has discovered that most of the real story about retinol and its more toxic derivative, retinoic acid, was known in the 1940’s. He has identified the 50-plus named autoimmune diseases as epithelial tissue poisonings. Their symptoms are a match for the ones listed at the National Institutes of Health for acute Vitamin A toxicity.
Essentially, he shows how eczema and Crohn’s are the same, just a different location of the inflamed epithelial tissue in question. He demonstrates clearly that there’s nothing wrong with our immune systems. He cracks open PubMed papers like they were eggs in the process of deciphering what researchers are really finding, as well as how they misdirect, to put it gently.
Our immune systems are trying to eliminate a poison that kills stem cells. In fact, retinoic acid is used as a chemo drug for its ability to enrage the immune system.
The liver only has so much capacity to bind and store retinol and once that threshold is exceeded, other tissues and cells have to soak up the excess. The waxing and waning of symptoms, the trigger-foods, the underlying osteoporosis in all of these conditions, and many other subjects are dealt with and explained with ease.
He has linked the exponential rates of increase of the so-called autoimmune diseases to “fortification” of many foods in North America, as well as bad dietary advice and massive importation of fish oil. His geographic epidemiology and statistical graphics are so lucid and simple, that I wondered how we all could have missed it for so long.
Grant has a brilliant associative mind. That capacity led him into the other raging epidemics of Autism, Alzheimer’s, Cancer, Obesity, Osteoporosis, and Kidney Disease. He’s only posted a few articles on his blog in 5 years. I guess he’s been too busy healing, researching, writing books and living his life.
My inflammation has gone down since adopting the diet for a few months now. I’ll be getting a C Reactive Protein blood-test done, in order to watch it from that level, as well as from the subjective experience.
It’s a long haul to get retinol and retinoic acid out of the extra-hepatic tissues, and the healing that goes along with it. Grant is in his late 50’s and says his skin is like he’s in his 20’s now. Taurine apparently helps. PubMed has a tremendous amount of papers on its usefulness for many things.
I’m diving into the use of Near InfraRed LED light therapy to accelerate the detox. There’s a Dr Wilding who has a NovoThor full-body infrared machine claiming good success with fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, and other tough ailments. I’m looking for the science that links what InfraRed does to retinoic acid and retinol. Retinol fluoresces, so it’s a light sensitive molecule. Not sure about its evil cousin.
It will be interesting to learn the full story of InfraRed therapy healing dysfunctional mitochondria, increasing ATP production, vasodilating due to released Nitric Oxide, and reversing chronic illnesses that are due to decades of accumulation of retinol.
The fact that many so-called old-age diseases are occurring increasingly in people in their teens, twenties, and thirties, should give everyone pause to reassess what we think we know about illness. After 200-plus hours reading PubMed abstracts, papers, and reviews, looking into the retinol subject, I can say that almost no one is looking for curing any of these diseases. They’re looking for treatments, mostly ones altering immune function, and for increased research dollars, and for pointing the attention towards genetic causation. Grant easily and handily dispels that idea, using standard logic.
I see the same potential for research obfuscation in the labyrinth of the microbiome that is newly so popular. The posts of the moderator of the IBS thread at Reddit gives one some indication of how deep and twisty that rabbit-hole is.
Ggenereux dot blog is Grant’s website. Under the “Books” tab are the pdf download links to about 1,000 pages of evidence. A lot of it reads like a detective novel.
Happy New Year
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By “retinol” do you mean Vitamin A?
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cancelled – yes, Vitamin A. The history of the name is odd to me. Like, when you look at Wiki, it says:
>>>Vitamin A is a group of unsaturated nutritional organic compounds that includes retinol, retinal, retinoic acid, and several provitamin A carotenoids (most notably beta-carotene).[1][2] Vitamin A has multiple functions: it is important for growth and development, for the maintenance of the immune system and good vision.[3][4] Vitamin A is needed by the retina of the eye in the form of retinal, which combines with protein opsin to form rhodopsin, the light-absorbing molecule[5] necessary for both low-light (scotopic vision) and color vision.[6] Vitamin A also functions in a very different role as retinoic acid (an irreversibly oxidized form of retinol), which is an important hormone-like growth factor for epithelial and other cells.<<>>The retinoids are a class of chemical compounds that are vitamers of vitamin A or are chemically related to it. Retinoids have found use in medicine where they regulate epithelial cell growth. <<>>A vitamer of a particular vitamin is any of a number of chemical compounds, generally having a similar molecular structure, each of which shows vitamin activity in a vitamin-deficient biological system.[1] For instance, vitamin A has at least six vitamer chemicals that all qualify as “vitamin A”, each with slightly different properties.[2] In such a system, “vitamin A” is termed the “generic descriptor” of the vitamin, which is defined by its biological properties in a vitamin-deficient organism, not by its chemical structure. In the “vitamin A” system, four of those found naturally in plant origin foods are chemically carotenoids (three carotenes and one is a xanthophyll). However, the retinol and retinal forms, which occur in animal-based foods, are several times as effective in humans, per microgram, than are the plant-based forms. In some cases these differences are extreme: for example the carotenoid forms of vitamin A cannot be absorbed by cats or ferrets at all, and therefore do not have vitamin A activity in these species. The retinoids are pharmaceutical forms of vitamin A. <<<
I run across what I'd call "systemic obfuscation" in many of the seemingly endless Vitamin A papers available on PubMed. Retinol and it's "vitamers" may be the most researched molecules in existence. The teratogenicity of retinoic acid in the form of iso-tretinoin, (Accutane) has been known since at least 1983 (Lancet paper), yet the I-Pledge program trying to limit usage in the USA wasn't instituted until sometime after 2003. Go figure? Over 7,000 lawsuits against Hoffman-LaRoche? And we find that same company funding many of the "Vitamin A" studies?
Here's a gem I found a few months ago.
August 2018 PubMed review paper:
Retinoic Acid, Leaky Gut, and Autoimmune Diseases.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6115935/
An interesting statement is in Section 6:
Concluding Remarks:
“Therefore, many of the short-term observations described in our review may be temporary consequences due to the feedback inhibitory effect of RA and that longer-term observations could actually reveal toxic effects that may, in fact, indicate a causal role for RA in these same autoimmune diseases.” (RA = Retinoic Acid)
And then there's the words of the former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Journal of Medicine years ago, Dr Marcia Angell, which further complicate the attempt to filter the true from the false when reading peer-reviewed papers. She said:
“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.”
Hope you don't mind that I posted all of that in response to your question.
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Yes, I see that you do, as I spent some considerable time on the blog. What he writes is definitely food for thought. I didn’t see any discussion of how the body uses vitamin A; only that it is stored up. I got the feeling the storage keeps mounting, period. Perhaps I missed something.
I have been very suspicious of the hype over the necessity to take fish oil. It makes no sense to me. Vast geographical regions had no access to fish oils, historically, I would think. Especially cod liver oil. Why is it suddenly so essential? Usually when there’s hype in the media, somebody is trying to sell something. And it works like a charm.
Why are we so in the effing dark when it comes to our health? You would think that, after all the money and research over the last hundred years since vitamins were discovered, a clear, blinding light would be shining on the topic. But no, there seems to be more and more confusion and contradictions as time goes on. Despite the fact that the human body physiologically has not changed in thousands of years.
I am bothered by the close connection between both medicine and food and the chemical industry. If there’s one industry that is anathema to health — be it human, environmental, animal, soil, or food health — it’s the chemical industry. It has its tentacles everywhere. Heaven only knows what kind of vitamin supplementation goes into food. But you can bet it isn’t a natural source, but instead cheap and synthetic — made in a lab.
I have seen a video where cornflakes, fortified with iron, had tiny filaments of iron, disclosed with a magnet that attracted them from the corn flakes. True, or misinformation? I don’t know. But it’s certainly food for thought. Would a magnet attract iron filaments from a spinach leaf? I presume not. So when they say your food is fortified with vitamins or minerals, you must consider: which vitamins and minerals, and from what source? Industrial? Chemical? Plant based? This is the sorry state of affairs we are in today. You have to be so damned vigilant. It’s exhausting!
On the face of it, I find it hard to believe that a vitamin that’s found in almost every food, which he himself admits over and over again, could be as toxic as he claims. There has to be more to the story. But his blog is, for me, interesting food for thought.
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cancelled – I’m glad to read that you’re looking at the material.
Here’s a bit from Grant’s second book, Poisoning for Profits:
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For example, some of the early experiments putting animals (dogs, rabbits, chickens, and most often rats) on vitamin-A deficient diets, and for them to quickly develop the systemic and catastrophic destruction of all their epithelial tissues should have raised serious questions as to the validity of the design of their experiments.
In dogs, the epithelial destruction happened as quickly as in four weeks; in rats, it was around eight to ten weeks. Naturally, most of the animals died shortly after that.
Therefore, how is that even possible for animals to be this critically susceptible to vitamin-A deficiency, and still be on the planet as a species?
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I agree that it is pretty hard to believe. It becomes even more problematic when reading studies that have supposedly identified receptors, genetic interaction, metabolic pathways, etc. But, then again, I get the same uneasy feeling while reading Vit A studies as I get when reading legalese designed to disempower someone.
There is a huge amount of data at the acute end of things, i.e. Hypervitaminosis A. The National Institutes of Health is clear on that and the issue of hepatotoxicity.
It’s not much of a stretch to hypothesize, along with Grant, that small doses over extended periods have the same results as large doses over shorter spans of time.
One very interesting unplanned experiment with 5 million people caught his eye. He’s documented the dramatic fall in rates of alzheimer’s and crohn’s in Eastern Canada after they banned cod fishing in the 90’s. Atlantic Cod that has 10 times the retinol as Pacific Cod. It’s a geographic logic, similar to the cultural logic he shows exists between Finland and Russia; with the Finns experiencing 22 times the alzheimer’s as their neighbors right across the border. Once again, it’s a diet thing.
Medicine has extensively inserted the role of retinoids-as-good-guys into many biological processes. But even a novice like me can spot glitches in the matrix here and there, where co-incidence is the actual thing being demonstrated, not causation; yet they claim causation.
If this is a family of poisons, our bodies would logically have developed numerous ways to deal with them, especially when they get outside the liver, and I suppose they’re going to be found at the scene of the crime, so to speak.
Highlighting the vague words and unsupported assumptions in many of these retinol studies is an interesting exercise. I once used that approach to analyzing Bank for International Settlement White Papers on the subject of clearing derivative trades and counter-party risk. Yellow for ‘kind of vague’ and green for ‘really vague’. The visual impact of realizing they weren’t actually saying anything definitive at all was striking.
Grant has speculated that the body might have evolved the ability to sequester the poison to use it at another time against pathogenic bacteria in the gut, our first line of defense and the location of vast armies of non-self entities. I don’t know if he still holds that speculation, since retinol and retinoic acid involvement in the various inflammatory bowel diseases is clear, but glyphosate is too, so who knows if a good thing was turned into a bad thing through excess intake of either or both of them.
It makes sense to me that plants have molecules to protect themselves from being eaten. Think of the colors too. Red, rich in retinoids, as a warning. We had to evolve alongside eating some of these plants. We do have some capacity to do so, without acquiring illness, that much is obvious. But it’s like the mold-illness subject, best described by Dr Ritchie Shoemaker. There’s a threshold, and when it’s passed, the cytokine-storm is unleashed, and from then on, the immune system is hair-trigger primed for future encounters with mycotoxins, where even tiny amounts yield catastrophic response. Grant describes the same thing with eczema, which he has watched under high-magnification on his own hands.
The sophistication of the technology used, to determine what’s what about the Retinoids, is so far-out that I doubt most researchers have a good handle on the generation of their quantitative conclusions. I’d bet the rote and repetition involved in research is like a pyramid of progression. You either go-with-the-flow or get out. Kind of like journalism and many other occupations.
From a Miles-like perspective; much of this research is a swindle, a boondoggle and a hoax. A deadly one at that. It would take a lifetime to prove it, so a guy like me in his latter years has to go with an empirical approach and see if it proves out in my own body. If simple makes sense, go with simple, I’ve learned.
Grant has clear pictures of prisoners of war who lived over 3 years on 1200 calories of rice a day. They should have been riddled with lesions and blind if the retinol-as-vitamin theory held water. But you see guys reading newspapers without eyeglasses and closeups with the whitest sclera imaginable.
One view on how “they” could let this all occur, is that it’s for the money, but the more disturbing view, is that this bad science is deliberate at some level, and promoted for the purpose of disabling, hobbling and often killing us; and increasingly our children too. See Grant’s charts on Fish Oil importation to North America. See his color maps comparing rates in North America, Europe and Australia versus the rest of the world.
They could be head-faking us on the rates of autoimmune, cancer, osteoporosis, autism and alzheimer’s, but nearly 90% of everyone I ask either has one of these conditions, or knows someone who does. I’ve asked about 100 people. I’m watching clinics, urgent cares, hospitals and specialty-care facilities (that require referral), popping-up like mushrooms in every city I’ve seen in the last 5 years. At the same time, larger groups like Ascension are consolidating control over larger swaths of the disease-care infrastructure.
Chronic illness, particularly of the wax-wane type seen in “autoimmune”, is a cash-cow for everybody except the patient. I have no doubt that “alternative” medicine is riddled with con-men riding this wave. I’ve met quite a few of those, dealing with my issues. YouTube is riddled with them. I figure, the best we can do is find what works and spread the word and as my mom used to say – “survive the bastards”.
If you want to cut to the chase on how Grant thinks this came about, you’ll find it in Chapter 13 of Poisoning for Profits – titled: Systemic Scientific Fraud.
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“On the face of it, I find it hard to believe that a vitamin that’s found in almost every food, which he himself admits over and over again, could be as toxic as he claims. There has to be more to the story. But his blog is, for me, interesting food for thought.”
A quick search shows these foods highest in vitamin a: liver, fish, cod liver oil, cheese, eggs, plus many vegetables and fruits. And those are just the foods high in it. No doubt it is in many other meat/dairy/vegetable/fruit products in low amounts as well. As we can see it is not just restricted to one food group. I don’t possibly see how we can cut all these things out of our diet! Some of them, sure, but all of them?
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@Benjamin re:retinol/Vitamin A
I have finally had the time to sit down and read Grant Genereux’s book. And I have to say: Wow. Incredible. I am really convinced by his analysis. Like Vexman, I am trying to act and pass on this information to friends and family,
manyall of whom suffer from some of the auto-immune symptoms that he lists, plus others that he does not (like chronic pain).In response to your question: once the liver and body has reached its storage limits, any amount of vitamin A is potentially toxic. Once you are at that stage, then it seems to me you would have to go on a detox diet like the one that Grant outlines in his book, at least for several months. Then perhaps at that point you could start adding in foods that have a low vitamin A content. Grant’s work is nascent, and there still much we don’t know. The thing is: if you really suffer from an autoimmune disorder, you will probably be happy to trade off a severely limited diet for health.
There are other things that might help flush or protect the body from retinol, including Taurine and activated charcoal.
Anyway, I wholeheartedly encourage you and everyone else here to give his book a read. It 100% deserves your careful consideration. I’ll like to it again: https://ggenereux.blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/extinguishing-the-fires-of-hell2.pdf
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You wrote about Grant Genereux: “I didn’t see any discussion of how the body uses vitamin A; only that it is stored up. I got the feeling the storage keeps mounting, period. Perhaps I missed something.”
Retinol is used in many bodily functions, including the immune response. That is the main reason it is causing all these so-called “auto-immune” disorders. In short, the body will draw down retinol. One of the things Grant points out is that auto-immune disorders are very rare in 3rd world/developing countries and ubiquitous in wealthy ones. With hygiene being what it is in wealthy countries, the body’s immune system isn’t working as consistently, so it isn’t drawing down retinol as quickly or regularly. Combine that with a diet that is very high in retinol (with Vitamin A being added to many foods at least in the US, such as milk, breakfast cereals, etc.), and you’ve got the perfect set-up for vitamin A poisoning. But even so it typically takes many, many years, even decades, to build up and present as a clear auto-immune disorder. Though it is happening to younger and younger people. The irony is that it may be happening to people who feel they are eating healthy. I assume that lack of physical activity also plays a role. It is well documented that exercise helps power the pumps of the lymphatic system, which is supposed to remove toxins from the body. (Though I don’t know if and how it acts on retinoid compounds).
You also wrote: “On the face of it, I find it hard to believe that a vitamin that’s found in almost every food, which he himself admits over and over again, could be as toxic as he claims.”
Well, in moderation the body is very good at dealing with retinol. The liver can absorb it from the bloodstream very quickly, store safely, and distribute as needed. But modern life is completely out of balance. It has also been thrown (purposely?) out of whack by the addition of Vitamin A to milk and other foods (a form of Vitamin A is used a chemotherapy drug–just think about that). The toxicity builds up over time. It isn’t a “one time and you’re done” kind of thing.
Plants on the land preceded animals by some hundreds of millions of years. Then came insects and other creepy crawlies that wanted to eat the plants. You could imagine a situation where plants developed a toxin to stop themselves being eaten. (The ones that developed this toxin at the highest levels also tend to be brightly colored, which is nature’s universal sign of “poisonous, dangerous, do not eat.”) And for awhile ti probably worked. But then at some point the animals adapted to this poison, began to store it. And not only that, to use it for their own benefit to fight off bodily invaders (the way plants used it to fight off attackers). Pretty ingenious. And in a more natural environment you wouldn’t need to think about vitamin A because your supply would be in balance with your body’s use of it. But now it definitely seems to be a case of too much of a good thing.
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Thank you so much for the link to Grant’s site, I’ve shared it with all my close friends and family members. Knowledge like he’s put forward might have saved my aunt years ago.
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Glad to be able to pass it along. One realization that hit home when first reading, was Grant saying the lard portion of the feed mix of early experiments was loaded with Retinoic Acid. I had a friend who drank himself to death because his eczema was so bad he could barely sleep.He managed his dad’s fried food restaurants. They used lard in the deep fryers. He ate 90 percent of his meals there for years.
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I concur. This discussion is fascinating, highly informative and very relevant. Just a quick, dumb question: I wonder if “vitamin A” is also a culprit in the decline of male fertility in the Western World?
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Not a dumb question at all. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was the culprit. The more I’m reading, the more I’m seeing connections between vitamin A and all kinds of problems. Not only that, I’m also seeing how many other “cures” or things that benefit people are due to their effect on vitamin A. For example, in the detox protocol I bought, fresh sauerkraut is mentioned twice as something that can help protect against the negative effects of vitamin A. I remember that somebody here had mentioned it helping them.
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Yes so vitamin D and E and K should be antagonistic to vitamin A..maybe we should consider
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Spondive, I want to apologize for being rude to you. You replied to my comment about Vitamin A with skepticism under a different user name (though same e-mail). I did not realize that you had previously commented under the username ‘Spondive.’ It struck me as odd that a new user would “swoop in” for a first time comment to debunk my endorsement of Genereux’s theory and derail discussion. I have had experiences in the past (not here that I’m aware of) when I have commented on something I considered to be true (esp. Miles’ science work) and some random commenter quickly came and tried to pour water on the idea. So when I saw it happening here I assumed you were shilling, and I treated you accordingly. Now that I know you are spondive and have looked at your comment history, I think I was wrong. So again, I apologize.
Garrett recommends vitamin C, E and K during detox — though in the case of K he says it’s because A can deplete K. As for D, he is against supplementing D in principle, though I guess he might recommend it for some people. But in general he has swung 180 degrees against D supplements. But again, if you haven’t read the e-books, then you’re really not educated on the issue. Garrett was very much skeptical of the hypothesis initially, until he read the books and started digging into the research showing just how much retinoids are implicated. For every chronic disease I’ve googled with the word retinol or retinoid, at least one of the top ten links is to a paper showing how retinoids are “associated” with the disease. You can play along at home. For example, here’s asthma:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11502488
Key takeaway: “upon exposure to known triggers for asthma, retinoid metabolites may be produced in such high concentration that they produce an acute, localized form of retinoid intoxication, recognized as status asthmaticus.”
What’s ironic is that nearly all of these papers start out by talking about how essential vitamin A is to all these different cellular processes and eye health, etc. But that isn’t true. As usual, the truth we are sold is 180 degrees from the truth. Vitamin A is not essential for health. It’s a poison.
I’m not going to discuss this with you further until you read the book. As Garrett wrote on his blog: “If one has not read at least one of Grant’s first two books, I would consider that person entirely ignorant in the nature and toxicity of this compound and unworthy of speaking in an educated manner on the topic at all. Seriously.”
I will be happy to send you the detox protocol if you’d like.
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Hey Josh I was surprised at your initial moment but thanks for the recent apology.. I realized I put down my real name instead of the fake name lol.. yes I will read some of his books I just haven’t got around to it yet
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Spondive I appreciate your graciousness – even when you were under “attack.”
I found that chapter 5 of Poisoning for Profits makes an extremely compelling case. If reading that chapter doesn’t pique your curiosity I don’t know what will
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Correction to my reply: there are studies showing that vitamin K is protective against retinol.
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Thank you, Dr Smith. Good grief!
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Hot off the presses of Garrett Smith’s blog:
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/topic/excess-poison-vitamin-a-causes-infertility-in-men/
“In other posts, I have shown the drastically negative effects of Poison/”Vitamin A” on both the Sertoli cells (sperm) and the Leydig cells (testosterone) in the testicles.”
“You must understand only one thing from the study below. ‘Inhibiting Vitamin A metabolism” simply means slowing or stopping the normal breakdown process of Poison/”Vitamin A”…thus increasing it in the system over time. This would ABSOLUTELY “work” to cause infertility, but not in any way you would want for the long-term poisoning it would create!”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3070762/
Here is another post of his showing the damage to the Sertoli (sperm-producing) cells from Poison/”Vitamin A”
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“Bollocks” is a very useful word I picked up from being immersed in British culture (being colonised has it benefits 😉 ). If you think someone is talking rubbish, you can simply reply “bollocks”. But in this case — a ball-shrinking Vitamin A conspiracy of Ball Earth proportions — then I can cry out “oh bollocks!” and express my dismay.
“Oh bollocks!”
Balls to you, Mr Gates…that’s another expression.
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I’m don’t know what goes on in the rest of the World ,
but U.S.A. teenagers by the millions are now slathering this ( no prescription needed ) product
all over their pimply face , but don’t worry , the corporation has unblemished all your concerns .
https://www.proactiv.com/en_us/acne-treatment/retinoids.html
” Retinoid Side Effects
While retinoids boast astounding benefits for the skin, there are also a few downsides. Fortunately, they can be managed
When you first use retinoids on your skin, you may notice redness or peeling and for a short time your acne can even appear worse. But don’t give up and stop the treatment.
First, since retinoids can make your skin sensitive to sunlight, doctors recommend applying them at night. Try also using a gentle moisturizer to manage irritation, and never use more of the product or use it more frequently than directed as it can increase side effects.
Retinoids: The Bottom Line
Retinoids are naturally occurring forms of Vitamin A. The American Academy of Dermatology (AAD) recommends retinoids as a first-line treatment for acne, ….”
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Here is more on Retinoid acne treatments, which my brother took for several years. This is from Grant’s second book, Poisoning for Profits (pages 43-46):
The more common side effects are:
problems with the skin, pancreas liver, stomach, bones, muscles, hearing, vision, lipids, allergic reactions, blood sugar, or red and white blood cells. The most common, less serious adverse events include dry skin chapped lips, dry eyes, and dry nose that may lead to nosebleeds.
Do you recognize these side effects? Yes, they are the symptoms of vitamin-A poisoning. But, wait, there are even more side effects, including fatigue, trouble sleeping, trouble concentrating. And, there are still even more serious side effects listed for this drug:
Depression
Psychosis (seeing or hearing things that are not real)
Suicide Some patients taking isotretinoin have had thoughts about hurting themselves or putting an end to their own lives (suicidal
thoughts). Some people tried to end their own lives and some people have ended their own lives.
and
Patients on isotretinoin have been known to become depressed or to develop other serious mental health problems. Some people have had thoughts of hurting themselves or putting an end to their own lives. Some people tried to end their own lives and some have ended their own lives. There have been reports that people on isotretinoin were aggressive or violent.
That’s right, suicide is documented as just a side effect of taking this socalled acne medication. Are doctors really giving an extremely toxic and powerful chemotherapy drug to trusting teenagers for acne? You bet they are. And this wonder drug has been a huge seller.
One of the most shocking reported side effects of this wonder drug is reduced IQ, and even permanent brain damage. But, the medical establishment doesn’t seem to be too concerned about that little detail either, because they have more drugs to sell you for that new condition of reduced IQ.
The most immediate risk of using Accutane is that to the unborn child. Therefore, all women who could potentially become pregnant are asked to enter into the “iPLEDGE” program and contract, and are supposed to be closely monitored by their prescribing physician.
…[He goes into detail on the horrible birth defects that can be caused by these types of acne medications]…
Just how toxic is Accutane? Well over the full course of treatment for young adults the total amount of the drug taken is about 5 or 6 grams. If that amount were taken in one shot, it could easily be a lethal dose. What the drug makers want you to believe is that the functional mechanism of retinoic acid is in reducing the size of the sebaceous glands via some magical “sebosuppressive” effect. But, that’s not the truth. The real true mechanism is that it is poisoning and killing the stem cells that reside in the sebaceous glands, and elsewhere. If the process goes a little too far, it will destroy the functioning of the sebaceous glands altogether. Of course, if the stem cell kill-off was limited to just the sebaceous glands of the skin it might not be too horrible. But, it’s not. It kills stem cells all over the body.
Here’s just a partial list of the conditions most commonly being reported by people who have been adversely affected by Accutane, et al.:
Arthritis, diabetes, migraines, pain disorders, intracranial hypertension, cheilitis, eczema, chronic dry eyes, glaucoma, acquired food sensitivities, acquired food allergies, acquired seasonal allergies, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, Colitis, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Post-Chemotherapy Cognitive Impairment, Anhedonia, depression, anxiety, seizure disorders, Depersonalization Disorder, ADHD, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, erectile dysfunction, reduced libido, reduced testosterone levels, hair loss, chronic dry skin, increased scarring of skin, weight loss, heat intolerance, raised liver enzymes, thyroid abnormalities, decreased ability to build muscle, and more.
In addition to the erectile dysfunction, reduced libido, reduced testosterone levels reported here, we’ll soon get a much better understanding why this wonder drug could have a devastating effect on longer term fertility too.
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Years ago, my brother and I were each put on a course of Accutane for a severe acne condition. I know that it triggered depression in me, so I eventually stopped using it. I switched to a daily teaspoonful of Organic Cider Vinegar (it should contain what is known as “the Mother”) and the spots ne’er returned with such deep-rooted virulence. I self-diagnosed it as an over-production of calcium being excreted through the skin but wtf do I know! Nevertheless, it worked…touch wood.
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James Sloane/Hveragerthi
We can use the liver flush as example. So, James says that bitters are enough? Thats not even a liver flush. Here is the curezone page with 15 variants on the Liver flush recipe.
https://www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/
My short version of it, Prepare by eating light that morning, fat free vegan, or soup, and just water the rest of the day. In the last hours before going to bed, drink table spoons with fresh pressed lemon juice and good quality olive oil, one after the other, pausing in between, lying down on right side. You will understand when you really don’t want anymore as nausea will appear, then drink a solid dose of Epsom salt or any other magnesium product, and go to bed. Magnesium makes the inner organs relax and ducts are opened.
The morning after there should be lots of pellets looking like wax in the stool.
When you have seen this, anyone speaking about placebo will come out dead on arrival. And the preposterous claim of Sloane that the gall stones expelled should be made up by the ingredients used is as vile as the claims that “scientific research backs this up”. There is no chance in hell that the body makes wax/plastic/cholesterol pellets out of lemon juice and olive oil in 10 hours. Many of these can look aged and be conglomerates of multiple smaller pellets. If you after a modern life performed a liver flush without getting these results, I suggest you try another recipe, because you have had no flush.
I dont know for sure if these pellets are coming from the liver, kidneys or the gall bladder, but i could think they come from all of these places. There are reported multiple benefits, see the link, i just say that these organs will obviously do their job so much better without being clogged.
The allopathic answer to gallstones are surgical removal of the gall bladder. They do this also without telling people how they can find enzymes to substitute the function of the bile. I regard that as a hostile and exceptionally primitive solution.
It was Hulda Clark who popularized the liver flush out of old recipes, and there is no end to the hate she receives from the spooks. Proving her wrong is top priority still, just check her name on google. Rather read her books than Sloane.
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SLOANE VS CLARK ET AL.
Runar, I think these two quotes below from Sloane answer all of your points.
_At the thread, “Hveragerthi, Better way to flush the liver?” at https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1438659#i Sloane said, repeating an earlier post:
_The liver flushes involving olive oil, lemon juice and magnesium sulfate do not flush out gallstones.
_The so called “stones” are an insoluble complex formed from a reaction between the sterols found in the olive oil and cholesterol from food or bile salts in the intestines.
_This is why these “stones” float instead of sinking like real gallstones.
_It is actually impossible to pass most real gallstones since they tend to [be] much larger than the bile ducts, even when dilated with the magnesium sulfate. It would be like trying to fit a golf ball through the eye of a needle.
_The reason people feel better after this “flush” is because the olive oil helps to stimulate the gallbladder so the bile is not stagnant. And bile stagnation is a common contributor to gallstone formation.
_If people really have gallstones then it is best to dissolve them rather than try to pass them. Trying to pass them can cause stones to lodge in the bile ducts, which requires emergency surgery.
_Most gallstones form as a result of more cholesterol than the bile can dissolve, so the excess cholesterol precipitates out leading to stone formation. Women are more prone to gallstone formation due to their hormones. Estrogen stimulates the release of cholesterol in to the gallbladder, while progesterone is a smooth muscle relaxant which increases stagnation of bile, increasing stone formation.
_Bile itself is a fat emulsifier, and it is the high lecithin content (about 80% lecithin) that gives bile its emulsification properties.
_Therefore increasing bile helps to prevent and dissolve gallstones. Bile formation can be improved by getting plenty of fiber in the diet. Bitters also help. As bitter tasting herbs hit the bitter receptors of the tongue the vagus nerve is stimulated. This in turn kicks up stomach acidity, bile secretion, and pancreatic enzyme release.
_This is why these are often sold under the name digestive bitters. [_At https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1438661#i Sloane said: … I prefer Grape Bitters. Swedish Bitters contain some harsh laxatives and camphor. Grape Bitters do not have either, and they are a lot cheaper. About $6 for a 2 ounce bottle.]
_[Cont.] They also stimulate the liver to flush, so it is very important to drink plenty of water throughout the day when using bitters.
_This flushing of the liver will also help with hormone regulation as the liver breaks down excess hormones including estrogen and progesterone.
_Lecithin granules will also help by providing a building block for the bile. Make sure to use the granules, not the softgels or liquids, which are highly diluted with soy oil. The granules provide more lecithin because they are deoiled, concentrating the lecithin. Recommended dose is 1 tablespoon 3 times daily with meals.
_Finally, it is helpful to ingest SMALL amounts of good oils, like olive oil, with each meal to facilitate gallbladder contractions to prevent stagnation of the bile.
_At https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1442670#i
someone said: I know the things I’ve flushed were not formed overnight and my experience totally debunks Hver’s theory.
_And Sloane said: Not really. Olive oil is not the only source of sterols. Sterols are actually found in many foods and herbs, just in varying amounts. Same goes for cholesterol. Then there is the fact that some foods stimulate the gallbladder to release bile. The bile contains cholesterol that can react with sterols from the food you consume. Being that it takes time for all this to pass through the digestive system what you ate the day before, or even several days before can affect the outcome.
_Why the different textures and colors? Impurities are a big factor in both. Think in terms of gemstones for example. Let’s say sapphires. Sapphires come in clear, blue, yellow, pink, red, purple, green, black, brown and all shade in between. Yet they are all aluminum oxide. They can even have different crystallization patterns. Impurities that are trapped influence the color and create singular or multiple nucleation points altering the shape/texture. The same applies to the sterol-cholesterol complexes that people are passing they think are gallstones.
_The Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) used in the “liver flush” is actually a laxative, so it can promote expulsion of the sterol-cholesterol complexes that have been in the intestines a shorter time. The time spent in the intestines also affects the color and possibly the texture.
_The fact that so many of these so-called stones float, especially the big ones, is proof positive that they are not real gallstones. This is further evidenced by the fact the bile ducts are INCAPABLE of expanding wide enough to allow passage of real gallstones the size of some of those people show pictures of, even if they took an entire box of magnesium sulfate. Very tiny stones or sludge may pass with the gallbladder contractions from oils in the diet, but nothing as large as people are claiming are being passed.
I see no reason to suspect Sloane of being a so-called spook. That would be more likely regarding Hulda Clark. If you read the Wikipedia article on her, you’ll see it mentions that, though she was charged with fraud or something in Indiana, the judge threw the case out. The article is not very critical of her. None of the references on her have links except the last one, which connects to info favorable toward her and her ideas. As for Sloane, he said he was in medicine for 13 years working in many aspects of hospital work. He said he quit because they wouldn’t let him use herbs etc that he knew would work on patients with major diseases like cancer. He always displayed great knowledge of anatomy, physiology, chemistry etc. I think some people at Curezone were suspicious of him mainly because he had some experience in medicine and he disagreed with many of their ideas, even though he was able to explain why those ideas were wrong.
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Medicine is my favorite subject and I would love if Miles would dive deeper into it. Here is a summary of what I discovered over the years.
Chronic inflammation is the problem and the one true way to be less inflamed is by using hydrogen. Hydrogen will not cause an oxidative cascade like other anti-oxidants as it turns oxidative molecules into water. It diffuses into all cells. You need a lot and that requires an electrolysis machine – one that uses a membrane and not a chemical catalyst. Also give blood regularly since too much iron is inflammatory.
Stem cells will fix anything. The way to more stem cells is more oxygen, then less. The sate of relative hypoxia that follows hyper oxygenation will release stem cells from your spine, use HBOT or EWOT or ozone, followed by hypoxic gas. Those technologies are a staple of high level athletic training and are widely available. Hyperoxia and hypoxia are heavily inflammatory so you really need hydrogen to go that route. Also a three days fast will release a bunch of stem cells. The Soviet era peptides of Prof Khavinson will direct them where needed if you want to get fancy.
Heavy metals mess up your body and nothing at all will work until you are detoxified enough. If you have dental amalgams, hire a competent dentist to get them out safely as soon as possible. If you have tattoos, have them removed by pulling the ink through your skin using Trans Epidermal Pigment Release technology (for example Tatt2away or Skinial), never laser. If you think you’ve been poisoned enough to require chelation, don’t use anything harsher than ALA with some vitamin C and activated charcoal.
GO ALL RUSSIAN! Get any or preferably all of the energy medicine devices that are approved by the no-nonsense Russian Federation Department of Health. SCENAR, witch is old-school Soviet electro-acupuncture, is now fully automated by Diadens.com, PEMFT from Almagia.com, they have magnets for everything, Vielight.com, Colorpulse.ru, and the antennas Aquatone and Triomed. You can bask in your own personal charge with a OLM blanket, it’s also a good idea to ground yourself. Try a salt cave if available. Buy American with Fisher-Wallace. Try the German Geno-62, it’s ultra-sound based homeopathy. If you need to improve your sleep you can get an expensive rocking bed, but if are able to built a little robot to gently swing a hammock, please let me know as I would love to have one.
A note on dental health, bacterias are out of reach as soon as they are able to hide beyond a biofilm that they build with sugar and that will turn into tartar. Fighting them is a lost cause, industrial sabotage is the way to go. Feed them xylitol, a sugar-alcohol, that they will incorporate into their biofilm rendering it useless. A variant is to drink D-Mannose if you are prone to UTI. Needless to say that fluoride is highly toxic and useless for dental health. Nothing compares to the Curaprox brand toothbrushes. If you ever have a dental health issue find a dentist who works with ozone.
Hopefully that should keep everyone going until the end of the solar minimum!
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Yes I agree that chronic inflammation may be the cause of most disease so a daily aspirin maybe the solution more than all these remedies that only work for some…it is a natural substance from willow bark
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Aspirin is said to thin the blood, which is said to lead often to strokes. Sloane has info on migraine treatments at https://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1469273 where he mentions kudzu root, forskolii and/or magnesium malate/citrate. Natural Vitamin C as from amla berry powder, or rosehip powder etc, seems to be the main nutrient to strengthen blood vessels to make them more impervious to heart attacks and strokes, as well as to migraines in the long run.
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If you are taking aspirin then you are only treating the symptoms not the underlying causes. There is a lot of research showing that aspirin depletes vitamin C. I will quote from a post Garrett has on his facebook page, rather than linking to it. It also talks about what he views as the nature of vitamin C:
STARTQUOTE:
Here’s the article I posted this comment on (I’m posting the below before it has been approved, so we’ll have to see if they appreciate scientific debate or only want to protect their viewpoint and ignore mine): http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/200-reasons-love-vitamin-c1
[the entirety of my original comment is below]
Regarding the final asterisked part of this article, see below:
“*If Linus Pauling and other Vitamin C researchers are correct and a deficiency of Vitamin C causes the breakdown of collagen in the artery, aspirin therapy, which causes Vitamin C deficiency, would not be considered a safe way to reduce cardiac mortality. To the contrary, it would further destabilize the strength and elasticity of the artery leading to hemorrhage, which is the primary deadly side effect of aspirin therapy.”
There is plenty of evidence that aspirin increases cardiac mortality, from the CDC’s own website (!!!):
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pr…
“The inclusion criteria were based on clinical guidelines (10,12–15) and USPSTF recommendations identifying the risk levels at which benefit of treatment outweighs the harm of treatment (e.g., gastrointestinal or cerebral hemorrhage) (8).”
[“harm of treatment”?…one cause of cerebral hemorrhage is a hemorrhagic stroke!]
[…]
“In addition, patients without ischemic vascular disease who were prescribed nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) were excluded from analyses because of the increased risk for bleeding complications when NSAIDs are used together with aspirin.”
[…]
“Aspirin use in the presence of uncontrolled hypertension increases the risk for hemorrhagic stroke (20).”
[whoomp, there it is!]
AND…the research does show that aspirin causes the body to LOSE Vitamin C:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go…
“When the dose of aspirin was 25 mg or more, the transport of ascorbic acid into leucocytes was inhibited, the plasma concentration of vitamin C was elevated significantly and the excretion of ascorbic acid in the urine was increased in direct proportion to the aspirin dose.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go…
“The effect of soluble aspirin on the availability of vitamin C has been studied in guinea-pigs and human subjects. In the human study, the concentrations of vitamin C in plasma, leucocytes and urine were found to be markedly elevated at various intervals following administration of a single oral dose of 500 mg of the vitamin. The vitamin C-associated increases, however, appeared to be blocked when the vitamin was given simultaneously with aspirin (900 mg). Similar findings were observed in guinea-pigs, where in addition faecal excretion of vitamin C was found to be significantly increased when the vitamin was administered together with aspirin. These results suggest that aspirin may impede gastrointestinal absorption of vitamin C. This hypothesis has been strengthened with in vitro studies using everted gut sac preparations where both the serosal/mucosal concentration gradient and the uptake of vitamin C per unit weight of intestine were markedly lowered by acetyl-salicylate. Such an interaction is relevant to the population where vitamin C intake is borderline.”
Finally, you all say you do things based on research, not conjecture. The concept that Vitamin C is a complex was propagated in a book (not a study) by the same person who pushed (toxic/rancid) fermented cod liver oil on people. Look at the research on Vitamin C, really look at it. 99.9% of it has been done with ASCORBIC ACID or SODIUM ASCORBATE, and the results are nothing short of amazing…particularly the IV Vitamin C studies. The “idea” that Vitamin C exists as a complex and is ONLY usable in that form is not scientific and not true. Here is a great paper on the topic by the Vitamin C Foundation, which DOES NOT sell anything (including Vitamin C):
http://www.vitamincfoundati…
“There are a surprising number of well-intentioned people among the alternative medical community who now believe that ascorbic acid isn’t the real vitamin C. The dietary substances which causes scurvy when missing and cures scurvy when present is by definition vitamin C. Linus Pauling was unequivocal in his belief that the ascorbate fraction of ascorbic acid (called the ascorbate ion) is vitamin C. Referring to scurvy inhis landmark Vitamin C and the Common Cold (1970), Pauling stated, “Ascorbic acid isan essential food for human beings. People who receive no ascorbic acid (vitamin C)become sick and die.”
There is a growing school of thought among an unlikely foe of Pauling – thenatural purists who proclaim that only vitamins gleaned from plants are the real vitamins. The views of these alternative healers, as summarized by authors Thomas S.Cowan, MD and Sally Fallon in their recent book The Fourfold Path to Healing (2004) is that the real vitamin C is “actually a complex of nutrients that includes bio-flavonoids, rutin, tyrosine, copper and other substances known and unknown.” (Cowan and others 2004 p. 21)
Ascorbic acid, which has been vitamin C since at least 1937, has only a supporting role, according to Cowan and Fallon, who write that ascorbic acid is only present in plants “as a preservative for this complex, serving to keep it together in the plant tissue, preserving its integrity, freshness and color.” (Cowan and others 2004 p. 21)
Cowan and Fallon even go so far as to say in this book that “ascorbic acid is not a food for us; that which it preserves is our food.” (Cowan and others 2004 p. 21) Too much “synthetic” ascorbic acid is harmful, the naturalists assert, especially when not accompanied by the vitamin C-complex.
If the naturalists are right about the C-complex being the “real” vitamin C, then Linus Pauling was wrong in his reviews and analyses of more than 60 years of vitamin C science. There is massive scientific support for Linus Pauling’s position that ascorbic acid is vitamin C. No scientific basis has been found for the existence of the C-complex or that such a complex can cure scurvy without ascorbic acid present. This assertion is proven every day in hospitals around the world. Comatose patients are kept alive using ascorbic acid only. There are no hospitals keeping patients on a feeding tube alive with a vitamin C-complex.
Those who are making the case for the C-complex and other so-called “natural” vitamins, are highly respected among the alternative community. Their stature prompted Berkley
Bedell’s National Foundation for Alternative Medicine (NFAM) to turn down funding of a study of the Linus Pauling’s vitamin C and lysine therapy for cardiovascular disease. NFAM told the Vitamin C Foundation that they rejected the study because of the fear that ascorbic acid form of vitamin C might prove harmful tothe study participants.
The following treatise represents the position of The Vitamin C Foundation on the true nature of vitamin C. The ascorbate ion, the fraction commonly found in ascorbic acid, or one of the salts, e.g., sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate, is vitamin C. This is the substance that when missing in the diet causes death by scurvy. There is no scientific debate about this fact. The scientific literature is so voluminous that few would be capable of digesting it. Part of the problem is that today’s dietitians and orthodox nutritionists are taught to ignore much of the early research and medical doctors are not well versed in vitamin C either. Apparently this knowledge vacuum has opened the door to the emotionally appealing idea of a “natural” vitamin C-complex.
/ENDQUOTE
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Since you seem to know a lot about this type of stuff, can you recommend anything for inflammation of the gums? My mother and I both have it, and I saw Miles recently recommend taking Vitamin C, which I started a supplement of.
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OK. My turn to help.
RT, I healed my gums easily. You can too, for $40.
I have not read through comments yet above so perhaps someone already mentioned the best stuff on the planet, Chlorine Dioxide. Brush your teeth with it between the gums and watch your gums heal. Use a tooth ‘bottle brush’. It also stops a toothache cold when a few drops of DSMO are added to your mixture. (Which delivers it to the root, killing the nasty bug gnawing on your nerve.)
This is the stuff that cures malaria in 4 hours 100% of the time. (BISturds say there is no cure. Only treatment.)
It cures autistic folks. (www.CDautism.org)
(It actually cures just about everything.)
It’s a water purification product. Think of it like Pool Shock. And you are the pool. It’s all about oxygen. (BISturds sell us ANTI-oxidants.)
It is also sprayed on their meats and veggies before it gets to their stores to keep the BISturds products fresh and free from bad bacteria or bio-films.
It’s cheap. I buy it here: http://www.wps4sale.com. They have a $40 bottle set.
EVERYONE should have it.
Perhaps I’ll add info about it later.
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I missed your response to me, Ramsay.
Jesus, that looks kind of dangerous. Can you send me to somewhere I could read about it? I can’t tell if you’re really trying to help me or trying to kill me. Half joking!
I am always interested in learning new things. Sounds like something they use industrially to clean pools. Why would I put that on my gums? That really helped you?
Thanks,
Russ
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Having done some research on this fellow Jim Humble, and using Miles simple method, I can say with 100% certainty that this guy is a spook. Before discovering MMS and “curing malaria” with it, he worked in the “aerospace industry” testing atomic weapons and worked directly with nuclear weapons. This is straight from his mouth.
I was able to spot his red flags immediately when I saw a video on youtube with the name “Project Camelot”, which is an interview with him. If you look up Project Camelot, you’ll find it’s a secret government program. The youtube video tries to make it seem like they’re exploring the secrets of the government, but it’s obvious that the project is the video itself, and the promotion of these gurus.
Whether or not this solution works I cannot say, what their intentions are with this, I cannot say either. Whether this solution really works well and this is their way of blackwashing it so it serves as no threat to the pharmaceutical industry, or whether they’re simple promoting this in a method akin to flat earth, whereby anyone going against the mainstream can be compared to these guys . I’m not sure, but there is some obvious spookery afoot with that gentleman.
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCt1Q3-W3M
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I agree RT, seems spooky. Have decided against buying it after further research on the potential dangers. I could be wrong of course, but trust is hard.
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Hi Ramsay,
I want to let you know that I bought a product named Closys, with the main ingredient being Chlorine Dioxide, and that within 2 days the bleeding that normally occurs during my brushing is COMPLETELY gone. I haven’t been more impressed with a product in a really long time, and just wanted to thank you for the recommendation to seek out “Chlorine Dioxide”. Thanks, man. I seriously cannot believe how much better this mouthwash is than say, Listerine.
Regards,
Russ
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The comment by Ramsay is interesting, I have never heard of Dioxine Chloride but it sounds great. I would just add to not use DMSO if you still have mercury amalgams in you mouth as it would be dangerous, and actually your gums will never improve for as long as you have mercury amalgalms. I would also use hydrogenated water (mao-an.com), everyone needs an electrolysis machine.
Also I just read in PubMed that gelatin with vitamin C provides collagen. Oil pulling is also highly touted, try it with CBD oil if you can get some in your neck of the woods. Sodium Laurel Sulfate is highly inflammatory and is present under many names in many toothpastes, including many so-called natural ones, so beware. And if you can find a dentist who works with ozone, he will be of great help.
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I have amalgams. My gums healed up just fine. And fast. I was scheduled for gum surgery.
DSMO is awesome. Takes medicine to spot it needs to get to. Great inflammation reducer. Used on pro race horses after a race. Buy it at feed stores as a roll-on for muscle soreness and liquid for tooth aches (and other applications).
I’ve checked into just about every new and old thing out there. My wife has MS and I dig until I find the truth. Most stuff is non-sense. Chlorine Dioxide is obviously the best medicine on the planet. If you sell it as such, good luck. The key to your cell just might get melted.
The reason ‘we the people’ know how healthy it is is only because of a fluke. Jim Humble, a big mouth hero discovered it healed malaria. Later, a hero mom (Kery, at http://www.CDautism.org) discovered it helped her autistic son. He spoke first words after one dose. Later, a genius (Andreas, also at CDautism.org) discovered it healed his arthritic ridden hands overnight. He invested his enormous scientific talents into figuring out why, and what protocols are best. They have healed about 300 kids of severe autism by using this stuff. How you ask? It causes their parasites to DIE or leave. It’s all about the oxygen. Bad bugs don’t like it much. As the autistic kids go on strict diet and CD protocols the parents and grandparents often join them for support. All their ailments begin to disappear as the autistic kid improves. Including diabetes, cancers and dementia. It’s truly awesome.
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Are you sure it’s the oxygen that kills the bad AND GOOD bacteria and not the chlorine, basically bleach, a strong desinfectant? I really don’t think it’s a good idea to use this, sorry.
I would prefer using herbal products like Humaworm for instance if you have problems with parasites.
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I stopped using toothpaste to get away from fluoride, and switched to brushing with baking soda paste (filtered water or food grade H2O2), and my gums cleared up!
Lesson for me: toothpaste causes our aggravates gum problems. That puzzled me, until I wised up. Now it makes perfect sense. It keeps the dentists in business. I’m also suspicious of dental floss: why is it always flavored with “mint”? (I can’t find plain stuff anymore.) Why isn’t it just strong thread? Are they slipping me a Mickey there, too?
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TEETH HEALTH.
While we’re on the topic of teeth and gums, I’ll add a couple more items, besides Sodium Chlorite / Chlorine Dioxide for inflammation etc, mentioned above.
BLEEDING GUMS & PLAQUE.
To clean my teeth I was using equal parts of salt and baking soda for a couple years, which helped whiten them a little, but I continued to have bleeding gums. I read that the bleeding may be caused by plaque under the gum line. So I looked up remedies for that and found that walnut shells can be boiled in water for 15 or 20 minutes and the tooth brush can be dipped in the water afterwards to remove the plaque. I’ve been using that for a month or so now and the bleeding stopped almost right away, so I assume that it removed the plaque. Maybe tannins did the job. If so, then other kinds of nut shells may work too. Walnuts in shells are apparently usually only available in the fall and winter. I bought some mixed nuts to get my walnut shells.
TOOTH WHITENING.
When looking for how to stop bleeding gums I also came across how to whiten teeth. I haven’t bought any yet, but I read that activated charcoal powder whitens teeth using it for normal brushing. You can get it in capsules, but it’s likely much better to get it as a powder. Otherwise you have open the capsules and they cost more.
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SLOANE ON DMSO.
Ramsay, you recommend DMSO. Here’s what Sloane said at https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1448951
“If people are going to use it they need to be EXTREMELY careful. This solvent travels through the skin at such a rapid rate that it will carry anything on the skin with it. This includes lotions, insecticides, insect repellents, dirt, soap scum etc. So the application area must first be cleaned well with soap and water, then cleaned again with rubbing alcohol to remove the soap scum. It is best applied with roll-ons that it is also sold in. This way it will not absorb through the fingers, which may not be as clean. … [It may be toxic] using with oxidizers such as MMS or peroxide. … Over all DMSO is great for pain and swelling, but due to the instant garlicky smell and the hassles of trying to use it safely I will pass myself.”
You said Chlorine Dioxide is an oxidizer, but I read Humble’s original e-book back in 2007 or 2008 and I think it said the Chlorine ion rather than the O2 is what kills pathogens in the body. If they’ve since found otherwise, feel free to correct me.
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Yeah, I think L_Kinder’s on the right track about this one. Oxygen isn’t exactly missing in our bodies, and it’s pretty easy to tell since if you’re alive you’re breathing and otherwise we might not be having these conversations. Chlorine on the other hand…
I’m really quite interested in this one so I’m gonna give it a shot. My gums and teeth aren’t terrible but I’d like them to get better and stay better.
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Well, you guys have convinced me to Chlorine Dioxide a go.
And while we’re on the subject of teeth, you can replace the soapy chemical filled commercial toothpastes with a homemade mineral toothpaste. Just find powders rich in minerals and nutrients. Powders like: Cacao, barley juice grass, calcium bentonite clay, atlantic kelp (or other seaweeds), baking soda, natural sea salt. There are no doubt others. Add enough coconut oil to make it paste-like.
I tried charcoal brushing for about a week. It didn’t live up to the hype, but it wasn’t useless either – it did help whiten to some extent. Perhaps I could have stuck with it longer.
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L Kinder, can you tell me more about these walnut shells? How do you procure them? You just boil them in a pot? You let the water evaporate until it turns to a paste or something? Tell me more, I’m not going to use this chlorine because Jim Humble is an obvious spook, and something tells me to stay away from it.
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GUM INFLAMMATION.
I used to get tooth aches fairly often till I started using MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) which is actually sodium chlorite (not salt = NaCl, but NaClO2, derived from salt via electrolysis). It was found that the Cl (chlorine atoms) is the active ingredient, which strongly binds to many viruses, bacteria etc in the blood, which kills them. A few drops of diluted NaClO2 is mixed with about 5 times as much vinegar or citric acid, which forms ClO2 which quickly enters the blood upon ingestion. Any Cl left over recombines with Na in the blood to form salt. The Cl only lasts about an hour in the blood, but that’s plenty long to destroy many pathogens. It doesn’t react with normal body cells, due to the pH. I started using MMS in late 2007. In the first week I had 3 toothaches about 2 days apart each, which seem to have been healing crises and I never had any more toothaches till late 2012, when I hadn’t taken MMS for a while. Taking it once a week or once a month has been enough for me. I bought nearly a pound of sodium chlorite flakes about 8 years ago and still have most of it left. Unfortunately, it’s hard to find the dry form now in the U.S., unless things have changed. I knew of a woman about ten years ago who bought a barrel of the dry flakes in Texas. But the Jackasses that be started to mount a campaign against MMS a little after that. I believe anyone in the U.S. can still buy it in liquid form diluted with water. I don’t have any addresses for sources right now though. Maybe someone would like to look and post here.
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I see Ramsay already mentioned Chlorine Dioxide, which is derived from Sodium Chlorite. So my info may be a little redundant.
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Why is there so much blackwashing on the subject when you do a simple google? It really feels like an operation. Tons of news stories about people killing themselves on it.
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I found something called Closys which I bought, as it comes highly recommended and has the chlorine dioxide you guys suggested.
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@RT, re “Why is there so much blackwashing on the subject when you do a simple google? It really feels like an operation. Tons of news stories about people killing themselves on it.”
I think anything that threatens to compete successfully against the mainstream, i.e. the medical industry etc, inevitably gets blackwashed. Jim Humble seems pretty smart, as he has made ClO2 etc sacraments in his “religion” and has moved his internet hq to Iceland, I think.
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He may say smart things although I am certain he is a spook, as I detailed in an earlier post.
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Interesting info, fan of Linus. Can you give any links?
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For anyone interested in some rather in-depth cancer information, research, and theory, head on over to the unofficial MM forums sometimes. Cr6 has posted up a rather daunting but damning and informational reference to links about cancer and how to deal with it.
Cancer and ATP: The Photon Energy Pathway (DCA as anti-tumor)
http://milesmathis.forumotion.com/t288-cancer-and-atp-the-photon-energy-pathway-dca-as-anti-tumor
As I said, there’s a LOT there, and it’s quite a bit heavier than the atomic and molecular structures we’re normally working with on that site. The cells are incredible! But the complexity just takes study, like anything else. And perhaps we’ll find some good answers in there, or ways to better our health in general and fend off some of the poisoning our society keeps lobbing at us. Here’s an excerpt to get you going, or scare your socks off:
“Evolution
“To understand the new concept of oncogenesis, we must take a look at the evolution of cells and organisms. Cells as present in today’s organisms are the result of a fusion, in prehistoric times, of two different types of unicellular life forms into a unique symbiotic combination. A type of cell of the archaea family and another type of the bacteria family entered into symbiosis and formed what is now known as a protist. The cells of mammals including humans today contain genes from both original families. The bacterial symbionts have evolved into the mitochondria which are delegated to take care of energy production.
“ATP Energy Pathways
“In cancer, the bacterial symbionts go on strike – they refuse to produce any more of the ATP energy molecules they are normally busy churning out all day. The cells thus have to revert to an alternate mode of energy production (glycolysis) which involves fermentation of sugars. This is very much more inefficient than the normal cellular energy mechanism.
“But more importantly, and here comes Kremer’s very interesting discovery, the normal mode of energy production is not a pure chemical energy pathway. ATP (adenosine triphosphate) is made up of three molecule groups. A base adenine ring that absorbs light quanta in the near ultraviolet band of 270 nanometer wavelength, one sugar molecule and a molecular string with three phosphate groups.”
Once again we see charge as the driving mechanism underlying everything.
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Wow. I’m astounded, Kremer says:
“The flow of para-magnetically aligned electrons in the respiratory organelles gives rise to a low frequency pulsating electromagnetic field which, enormously accelerated through catalytic processes activated by enzymes, in turn activates a spin-mediated information and energy transfer from the physical vacuum, the zero point field, to the biological entity. Consequently, the human organism isn’t governed by heat transfer but by a light frequency modulated energy transformation from space background or physical vacuum to the living organism.”
It seems that studying cells with charge knowledge might lead not only to cancer elimination, but also to a copycat version of this ultimate energy transferring machine, the so-called cell.
Do you think Kremer was in touch with Mathisian charge theory? It sure looks and reads like it. If he didn’t/doesn’t know about Mathis accomplishments, then it’s so much more intriguing scientific revelation.
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I’m not aware of any connection between Kremer and Mathis, though admittedly Cr6 dropped a LOT of information on that post so I’m still parsing it. Might take a few days for me since I’m back at it with Nevyn on some charge-field videos again. But I find it very interesting and as you saw, there are obvious ties to the charge field. We knew it powered everything, but this is specifically how it powers the cells and even the mitochondria, which are often considered a great mystery.
I’m going to try to parse it all and approach Miles to get his thoughts on it. It’s a bit above my comfort level, since the quantum realm is so much simpler (only a few particles and processes to deal with, versus all of that AND the cellular level). But maybe he’ll be able to help out and sift the wheat from the chaff a bit on that topic.
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@Vexman, re “Do you think Kremer was in touch with Mathisian charge theory? It sure looks and reads like it. If he didn’t/doesn’t know about Mathis accomplishments, then it’s so much more intriguing scientific revelation.”
From your quote of Kremer, it sounds like he’s not familiar with Miles’ charge field theory, because he talks about zero-point energy from the vacuum. He should say it’s from the photon energy field or something like that.
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L Kinder I completely agree with you about Kremer.
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As a matter of health, a la “Health Matters,” I see a link between Matter and Morality; or to state it another way: “The physics of morality.” For example, I think the class system of oppression is immoral which throws a wrench into the harmony of photon flow. Spins develop strange wobbles or stop spinning altogether and clump in stagnant and fetid pools, not easily eliminated.
Another metaphor that might shed light is our masthead logo of the lighthouse, butting against the fog and trying to cut through it. If the moral fog is thick enough, the photons bounce back off the fog, leaving us lost at sea. So we have to up our physics to radio or radar. However, if our moral screen is defective, we still may not escape the fog of Gog and Magog.
You know the story of the lighthouse and the ship. The flagship in the fog has radar which shows a large object straight ahead. The admiral thinks it’s another ship and haughtily commands its captain to change course or be rammed by a destroyer. The lighthouse operator has a sense of humor and radios back that the destroyer had better change course or it will be damned. The admiral goes livid with anger but turns sheepish when he hears: “This is Lighthouse 666. Change course immediately.”
The moral is clear: our class culture is lost in the fog of immorality, and is approaching the clear and present danger of self-destruction. The lighthouse of true physics is grounded on understandable mechanics and therefore can cut through the fog of relativism “in extremis.”
The conclusion is that health is directly connected to morality by way of foundational physics. If I want to be healthy, I “follow the photons.”
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A question for the physicists, does the science behind ‘Earthing Sheets’ stack up? Here is an explanation of what Earthing Sheets are: https://scottjeffrey.com/earthing-sheets/
Basically a sheet with conductive material that gets plugged into the grounding slot of your electrical outlet. So long as the sheet is touching your skin, its akin to being ‘grounded’, or walking barefoot along the Earth.
Through Miles work we know walking barefoot is beneficial due to the charge coming up through the Earths surface. Would that same charge come up through the grounding wire to these sheets? Would the benefit be the same?
If so, it would be far more convenient to wrap myself in a sheet for 8 hours at night, then it would to find 8 hours in the day to walk outside barefoot!
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I’m no physicist, just a student at best, but to me that seems a LITTLE extravagant. Or rather, excessive. Sure, adding photons to your body can be a good thing, but our cells only require a certain amount and at certain wavelengths. And they are naturally tuned to the Earth’s charge field, due to thousands or millions of years of evolution. And the vector does count. There’s more than one reason why our heads are at the top of our bodies, and also why we sleep best lying down.
I think such a blanket might be more harmful than helpful, though I am open to being absolutely wrong here. Think of an electric blanket. It’s adding infrared photons to our bodies and keeps us warm, but not a lot of violet or ultraviolet radiation if any. Our bodies do much better with infrared in general, but of course TOO much means you’re burning yourself. This is almost the opposite.
I think that the grounding wires wouldn’t really supply enough photons to make much difference, diffusing a tiny input over a larger surface area. Remember, the grounding at your home is only going to one point in the ground – not a spread of ground that would accept lots of charge. If anything, the blanket itself could block or redirect ambient charge photons you’d otherwise receive. Yes, walking barefoot on open Earth gives you the best combination of charge and conductivity, but walking barefoot in January pretty much just gives you hypothermia, up here anyway. While it’s obvious our bodied NEED charge, I think the right amounts in the right wavelengths and from the right vectors are pretty important too. As shown above, our cells themselves need more violet/UV than infrared, but that happens IN the body, and we really don’t need to stand on UV lamps to get what we need there.
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I think it would be next to sleeping outside, which is fantastic. Showering does also do some earthing somehow.
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EARTHING/GROUNDING.
I first heard of it from Mercola maybe 10 years or so ago. There are a bunch of studies on it at https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2F+%22grounding%22&ie=&oe=
It’s supposed to be good for reducing inflammation, sleep problems etc. The mainstream overlooks the photon charge field. Those of us aware of the charge field may have a tendency to overlook the electron field.
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Lloyd, I would suggest to you that the benefits of grounding are only partially do with electrons. Everywhere that Miles has looked, he has been able to show (convincingly in my opinion), that the mainstream assigns electrons a causal role when in fact the role of the electron is superfluous or epiphenomenal. It is really the flow and density potentials of the charge field pushing the electrons around, but since scientists have only been able to observe the movement of electrons, they have assigned a causal role to their movement.
Now, I just finished writing a long comment about anti-oxidants. The key thing about anti-oxidants is that they have extra electrons that are stripped off by free radicals and reduce their charge flows. So in this case the electron does play an actual role by partially blocking the charge flowing through atoms/molecules–even if the movement of the electron into a blocking position is solely due to charge field density and flow.
But it seems to me that grounding the body also allows more charge to flow into the body, which echoes Miles’ advice about connecting to the charge field by walking barefoot in the grass, lying down, not wearing rubber-soled shoes, etc.
And now I took a moment to read some of the papers you linked to, and they basically confirm all the advice Miles gave us awhile back about that, including his warning about the drawbacks of rubber soled shoes. They seem to think that the primary causal pathway here is anti-oxidative, and that probably does play a role. It might even be primary, though it isn’t clear to me if they actually have evidence that the body can absorb electrons through the skin like that.
Lloyd, thank you for bringing this body of research to our attention. It’s very valuable as it offers some practical solutions to how people can regularly connect to the Earth’s charge field for a long period of time beyond taking off their shoes and walking around in the grass or dirt (which for many people is just not feasible).
[EDIT: I haven’t tried any of this out, but there is a company earthing.com that sells products that help people connect to the charge field. Their products are very highly rated on Amazon. There is a book by the owners of the company called Earthing: The Most Important Health Discovery Ever. Of course they don’t know or don’t acknowledge anything about the charge field and so I assume they don’t really know what causes the effects they see, but their products can still work even if the theory is off.]
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https://www.earthing.com/patents/
See their patents are from 2004 2007 2010 .
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@DF
Meaning of patent dates?
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I don’t know , I can’t trace the timeline of Mile’s papers ( busy work day ) , as to whether these guys would have seen his science breakthroughs and used them without giving credit . Maybe you or Jared or someone else can .
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Oh , and I also didn’t read the patents , lazy Gumshoe day , perhaps you could email the owners to feel them out / invite them to your party ?
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I looked at them and their theories. It appears to have started with a hunch, and now they’re explaining it with electrons. There are all kinds of references in their promotional material to an ineffable energy of the Earth, but that’s as good as you get.
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I have skimmed zee patents unt zeen nothing about zee charge theory of Miles.
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Almost any time we see “energy” or “vibration” or “negativity” in the mainstream, we’re seeing some bullshit. Almost all of those folk don’t even know what energy is, and it’s so blatantly simple that demonstrating they don’t know what it is means they aren’t even that. They’re less than simple.
I certainly don’t presume to know the ins and outs of human physiology en toto, but instead of stabbing in the dark at various topics anecdotally it seems to me that it’s better to go the other direction. To be surgical. Go with one change in diet/behavior and observe the results, then move forward. I’ve managed to mitigate my wrist/hand joint trauma in the past year simply by taking a multi-vitamin and buying a cheaper, lighter mouse.
That said, a recent stint of interior-painting gigs wreaked havoc on my wrists, but also exercised them tremendously and perhaps that’s what “fixed” my wrists. Real, hard work. Operating a mouse isn’t ever real, hard work no matter how you slice it. No matter what we intake if we’re not pushing our bodies those nutrients aren’t going to go where they need to, it seems to me.
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I see homemade versions with copper wires, one end into the ground, the other clipped to the mat. It seems there are many different materials the mat can be made of. I don’t yet know which is best, but it might be a good way to gauge their effectiveness at a cheaper cost.
Jared, I think for a vast majority of cases you’d be right – eating healthily and exercising would do all the goodness one needs. But for those with certain medical conditions, the latter might not be possible. If we consider our beginnings, it makes sense that we are supposed to be connected to the ground, which is proven by Miles and the charge theory. It’s just a question of whether these mats can deliver the same sort of effect.
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There is a promotional video where the guy says that in order to remain ‘grounded’ indoors he taped some metal duct tape to one end of his bed and ran a wire to a ground with good effect. It doesn’t get more DIY than that.
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IONS.
By the way, I read long ago that positive ions in the air are harmful, while negative ions are healthful. As air circulates through trees and maybe other vegetation, negative ions are said to be generated, while air pollution tends to have positive ions.
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I had heard that as well when visiting the tunnels under the Bosnian pyramids, that the air that had very high levels of negative ion concentration, which was supposed to be one of the reasons it has such positive benefits on your health. But they couldn’t explain why. The only thing I could think of is that negative ion air acts like an antioxidant, since antioxidants are supposed to clear the body of ‘free radicals.’
What is a free radical? Well it’s a molecule with one or more ‘missing’ electrons, the most common being an oxygen atom with a missing electron. They “steal” electrons from other molecules, causing them to destabilize or become ‘free radicals’ thereby creating a chain reaction that tends to harm the body’s natural processes. I’m sure you know that, Lloyd, but others reading might not (I didn’t until I looked into it).
The mainstream theory about electron shells, covalent bonds, ionization, etc. is woefully wrong, but that didn’t stop people from noticing that that free radicals can cause damage. Of course we can recognize that an atom or molecule missing an electron, especially at either end of it, will have a lot more through charge. And that’s ultimately the cause of why it is so destabilizing. And that increased through charge will tend to pull other electrons off of other molecules, tending to destabilize their charge balance. I can imagine other ways it would be disruptive or destructive.
Anyway, having said that, it’s clear that negative ions (which is just air molecules with extra electrons) would then tend to have an anti-oxidative effect. And looking into it now, I came across a device I didn’t know existed, called a water ionizer. Seems like you can hook your water supply up to a water ionizer that will both help purify it (probably not thoroughly enough), ionize it (so it is negative ion water) and also make it more alkaline (to counteract the body’s tendency to become overly acidic). Seems to have the potential for incredible health improvements.
Also there are air ionizers than can ionize the air in your home. This has the (alleged) added benefit of clearing the air of mold spores, pollen, pet dander, odors, cigarette smoke, bacteria, viruses, dust and other hazardous airborne particles.
I haven’t tried either of these, but I think I will. I came across a website touting similar types of (anecdotal) healing effects of ionized alkalinize water that have also been seen by people who spend time in the tunnels around the Bosnian pyramids. There may be more to the Bosnian pyramid tunnels’ health effects than simply the ionized air, but perhaps it’s just the ionized air. [The first website linked to has a lot of good info on ionized water and water ionizers you can buy for your home.]
Then I wondered if the evidence for ionized water was more than anecdotal, and it turns out that yes. There have been hundreds of controlled scientific studies done. I don’t know what percentage show positive effects, but I know that many do.
Has anybody here tried a water ionizer?
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… forget alkaline water.
Yes, it was all the rage a decade or two ago, and it even worked – to a certain degree. But its health benefits didn’t come from the high pH-level like everybody wrongly assumed, but from the simultaneous – and at that time unnoticed and not understood – production of H2 (molecular hydrogen) molecules during the electrolysis process. No joke.
… go for an H2 water generator instead.
H2 is all the rage, particularly in Japan, Korea, and China, where most of the molecular hydrogen research is done, but by now, the good news has also reached the Western shores.
Here is a good, comprehensive, and up-to-date overview of the current research on the health benefits of H2:
https://file.scirp.org/Html/5-2101253_62945.htm
And here an example of a state-of-art, well-designed, affordable, portable H2 generator:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/H2-Max-3000ppb-SPE-PEM-High-purity-hydrogen-rich-water-bottle-Hydrogen-and-oxygen-separation-No/4696018_32968934121.html
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@ s a m i r
Interesting. Have you tried this? Does it help?
This doesn’t seem to ionize the water, does it? I actually thought that it was the ionization that has more of an impact than the alkalinity. Are you also saying ionizing doesn’t help either or just that the alkalinity doesn’t matter? If nothing else, it’s a lot cheaper…
You know, Japan is also make big headway in LENR.
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@ Josh
Although only twelve years have passed since the research on the therapeutic applications of molecular hydrogen for human health has exploded with this landmark article in Nature Medicine
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm1577
http://www.mizukagaku.com/Nature_070508.pdf
almost every single study published since has shown promising, highly remarkable, if not outright sensational results. In other words, even though H2 science is still in its infancy, and the actual mechanisms and chemical pathways of H2’s actions in the human organism are only poorly, if at all, understood, it is already obvious that molecular hydrogen is one of the greatest discoveries in the medical field in recent years, especially considering the fact that so far no adverse effects at any dosage level have been noted.
That said, after experiencing a significant energy boost during the first two, three months of drinking two litres of H2 water daily, I don’t notice anything anymore, but keep drinking it religiously as a longevity tonic and as a premier prophylactic health tool against all chronic diseases at basically no cost.
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@ s a m i r
Anything I need to look for when buying a hydrogen water generator/bottle machine?
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s a m i r,
would 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide work the same way?
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Jame Sloane/Hveragerthi.
No i dont think it answers. It tries mainly to focus on gall stones which is just a part of it. Do gall stone float or not? Sloane says they don’t, and I don’t know, but Wiki says there are 3 types of gallstones, and one of these contains from 30 to 80 % cholesterol, i would guess these would float, while the pigmentarian will not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallstone
However the stones are different and there are a few people talking of expelling almost real stones, which is telling us, there may not be gall stones all the time or even mostly.
Sloane says the stones are made up of the ingredients taken, but no, he elsewhere calls them soapstones. He gives no reference, but i found it. Its from Lancet, this English journal of Medicine, created by Thomas Wakley, a surgeon and radical politician (house of commons) in 1823. Todays Editor, Horton do also work with UN and WHO and is as far from alternative and folk medicine as you get.
This widely cited article, the usual proof which the mythbusters and the megabusters are using, is based upon a single sample. That is not science according to their own standards, its just a test. Do i find these folks credible? The authors understands their position and ends the article with :
“We declare that we have no conflict of interest.”
Well its quite common for the dominant part in a war to deny any form for hostility taking place.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140673605663738/fulltext#fig1
But as i read and search i find people are saying the gallstones are showing up on ultrasound scans and are gone after the flush. Here is one who even documented it. It counters lancet.
http://www.relfe.com/wp/health/before-after-scans-gall-stone-cleanse/
Also a comment from another at curezone speaks against these selfmade stones : “Btw, why do you ignore everything that doesn’t prove your point? Like the fact that doing a coffee enema has gotten the same results as a liver flush? Or how people have gotten stones out before even taking their first flush by loosening up the bile duct with Epsom salts?”
I think you should ask yourself on what motivations do these mythbusters and sceptics have. There are numerous of them. here is one lead by a convict, Stephen Barret
https://www.quackwatch.org/
They are sure far from testing the practice themselves, but they have got a conviction on the matter which is strange. Why should they at all care? It could be that the amount of satisfied people on Youtube telling about their good effects of liver flush is disturbing to some people who have money to earn, and who also have means to support such crap as rationalwiki.org?
Another commenter on curezone says this : The medical establishment has spent a fortune trying to discredit PH balancing. I wonder how much Hveragerthi is getting paid! From day one he has attacked all protocol that doesn’t sell a product ! It’s the fact that those in charge don’t care what kind of health measures one takes as long as it is costly and ineffective, those protocol that have proven to work and are affordable are viciously attacked.”
The amount of antagonists to alternative medicine i now see online now is really depressing.
Also look up the Hveragerthi’s comments on amalgam/mercury later on the same thread you linked to. Do you find it inviting trust?
And if you think Hulda Clark was a spook, you cannot be much informed. Did you notice who on her wiki page calling her and her claims Bizzare? The “alternative medicine” dr Andrew Weil. This Jew is noted for his partaking in the LSD project along with Tim Leary, thats how alternative he is.
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Your comments are much appreciated on my end. Dankeschön Runar!
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@Runar:
“Showering does also do some earthing somehow.”
I agree that showering is a good way to energise the body. A few years ago we swapped out one of the baths and installed a power shower with an almost vertical shower head. First time I used it I thought I was on steroids and could not believe the energising effect. I’ve since found that a longer hot shower morning and early evening is a great pick-me-up when I’m feeling run down and is also helpful for my back ache if I do too much lifting.
My conjecture on why this happens, based on Miles work, goes like this…
Water concentrates the ambient charge field into the body.
This high charge density helps the organelles in the cells doing the conversion of ADP to ATP to work more efficiently.
The extra ATP produced is stored for use when needed and your body feels energised.
I know the explanation is simplistic, but I don’t have enough knowledge of how our metabolism works to take it any further.
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I think it is about ionization, that showers remove the surplus ions which are irritating. But i also notice showers does immediately linger if i have attacks of my el-hypersensitivity.
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I have been recommending another book. the plant paradox by dr. Gundry, a famous heart surgeon who holds records for transplant survival along with patents for devices and procedures still in use. he doesn’t do surgery anymore as he now heals through diet at his wellness center.
dr Gundry says he cured his own migraines with his eating plan and it did the same for me. it cut my headaches down to manageable size and since adding ground whole turmeric to my diet I don’t even have headaches anymore. I dump the turmeric on my daily sardines.
it’s a lectin-free diet that shuns grains and beans and he weans people off pharmaceuticals and says not to drink out of plastic bottles. no nsaids. no sugar which he says causes inflammation, even fruit sugar. he says eat fruit in season and locally grown and ripened naturally and to choose organic.
he has a 3 page list of maladies the diet cures or reverses including arthritis, chrohn’s, and even male pattern baldness. he can say this because he sees it wlk in and out his office every day.
I’ve been on the diet over a year now and i’m very excited about it.
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this is a new(ish) book that is catching on like wildfire. I travel and go to libraries and they seem to all be adding multiple copies to their collections and I see they have lots of holds on them. 3 copies and 22 holds at a recent catalog search. I found it at a library when it first came out and wondered at the name which is silly. his site is gundrymd.com
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You mean his dry gun name is silly ?
I think his site looks reasonable and fair. His writings on lectins are interesting. And there is more to say about it. But later.
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Continuing on Cancelled’s dentist post.
No reason to trust dentists and their products. They as a group have been using mercury for soon 200 years. Packed in an amalgam, the fillings works as a depot tablet, and its poisoning is slow and deceptive, as it attacks both gutflora and cells in general, plus its also stored in the fat or the brain.
People scream up for some time and hold up undeniable evidence on its toxicity and nothing happens. Again and again. Normal people who are whistleblowers do believe that things will be ok and restored to a good normality, if we just tell and show the truth.
But not when it comes to mercury.
SInce the Rothschilds got the licence of the Spanish mercury mines in 1830, mercury are put everywhere, and in particular medicine and dentist products. The expression quack which is used regularly by the sceptics to alternative medicine have its origin in quicksilver plasters which was common then.
One of the early famous victims of this medicine was romantic composer Robert Schumann. His wikipage does not mention that he was given mercury but says this about him,
” Schumann suffered from a mental disorder that first manifested in 1833 as a severe melancholic depressive episode—which recurred several times alternating with phases of “exaltation” and increasingly also delusional ideas of being poisoned or threatened with metallic items. After a suicide attempt in 1854, Schumann was admitted at his own request to a mental asylum in Endenich near Bonn. Diagnosed with psychotic melancholia, he died two years later in 1856 at the age of 46 without recovering from his mental illness.”
Getting back to the point, the organisations behind the Mercury abuse are great and powerful, and they have political power. To follow their organisation and understanding the political landscape would be next step to forever get rid of this poison.
We managed to get prohibited use of mercury in fillings here in Norway, but it was an act from the sideline. It probably took many by surprise, because it was no action from the dept of Health, but the dept of environment.
Still they put it elsewhere, and as the new lightbulbs came, we learnt they were energy savers, but also had a mercury content so high, that when they break, the room should be left with windows opened.Its illegal but have no consequence. The old bulbs was prohibited.
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Age 46, huh?
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@Runar:
“I think it is about ionization, that showers remove the surplus ions which are irritating…”
Yes, this could be another part of the ‘energising’, via the polywater effect acting to spin up photons into electrons or protons in the EZ just a short distance away from the skin. The reason why most solutes occur in low concentrations inside the cell is that the cell’s
ordered water excludes them.
It’s worth reading Mile’s excellent paper on the work of Gerald Pollack to see how the photon charge causes the EZ effect…
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Me think that the health matters issue here was interesting and a good initiative. Love that testimony from Runar on his cure for example. Therefore I would like to contribute and share some of my experience on this.
My last visit to a doctor was a yellow fewer vaccination in 1989. Immediately after the shot I felt how my body became weak and miserable. I felt the effect months after and it more or less destroyed my journey and I understood that something was very wrong. Years later the cat went out of the bag and it was confirmed that the vaccination chaos system are deliberately poising people and giving many serious chronic damage.
Fast winding forward, due to the above said and other earlier experiences, it has become a life stile and sort of responsibility to try to self maintain while making good decisions especially about my own health. Although I do smoke but it is my decision since I enjoy it, however mostly organic brands, hand rolled, sometimes some Moroccan also happens to fill in.
Hippocrates, the father of medicine stated that all illnesses have its origin in the condition of the stomach (may also include malnutrition). When the stomach reaches a high level of homeostasis the body will follow and with that also the mind.
The first thing to do is to stop taking any pharmaceutical stuff and other detrimental drugs. But in essence, the most important action regarding optimisation of ones fitness is trying to keep the digestive tracts in good order. Our bodies has the most amazing potential for self healing, to get it to work efficiently the bodily systems have to be balanced by cures and regular maintenance.
I believe a diet can cure most if not all illnesses. Let’s say you avoid sugar, gluten, starch and prefabricated foodstuff, products made from pasteurised and homogenised milk, meat from industrialized kept and grain fed animals and try to stay away from all sorts of chemicals in the food circus, the GMO, bad fatty acids, also excessive beer intake and most other ethanols. If one couples this strategy with careful dosing of minerals and nutrients, good meat, seafood, red and green veggies, making soups and then start decontaminating the body with detox cures then the body will respond no doubt about that.
But, it’s tricky; when one is feeling very well, especially when celebrating something, one seem to be less prone to discriminate bad foodstuff and drugs, it takes discipline and all the good traits of character one can muster to extend such diet throughout the rest of lifetime and not just part of the time.
Therefore, some easier fix is needed. To start the day on empty stomach take 3dl hot water one tsp Tumeric powder, grind some ginger and squeeze it in your palm (or use 1 tsp grind ginger powder) add some freshly grinded black pepper and the juice from half a lemon. That little cure makes the day better, promise and period.
Then for detox I use an Ayurvedic recipe from a therapist that pulse diagnosed my condition. This detox is very powerful although it takes a bit of work since it is taken as one litre of hot broil a day from 11 ingredients during 6 to 8 weeks then three weeks off and then repeating the procedure in infinity. One thing I noticed with this cure is that it enhances the capacity of the lymph system so that it reduces the amount of slime in the body. The anatomy and function of the lymph system seem to be poorly understood by mainstream medicine. Correlations to the cause of cancer are associated with hindrance in the flow of the lymph. Tumors use to arise where jammed lymph channels has become inflamed, turning over to anaerobic metabolism in lack of oxygen supply.
The lymph and its system removes waste products from the cells while the blood system supplies the nutrients. When the lymph system is clogged and doesn’t flow as it should it needs to be cleaned up.
My cure contains Ashwaganda, Brahmi, Dashmula, Tumeric, Fennel seeds, Cumin seeds, Coriander seeds, Black pepper, Raisins and some special herbs as pills for mature men (Testosterone type). This decote brings balance to my systems increasing fitness and wellbeing since it reduces the load on the organs. I can eat just as normal during these cures.
To read Ann Wigmore’s wiki page is interesting in many ways, it seems as she have acted very intense and gathered many supporters but also encountered a lot of opposition. Perhaps she was Jewish and a little bit overenthusiastic but I do not think she should be labelled a quack.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Wigmore
She was a pioneer in many health promoting cures and the one who came up with the wheatgrass idea. She introduced and lectured about the vital health effect from freshly harvested chlorophyll, e.g. Spirulina, Chlorella etc. Many of the cures she came up with came from her rural childhood in Lithuania. The one I will describe concerns lactic acid fermentation of grains in order to get a drink that cures bad stomachs due to a massive intake of lactic acid microorganisms.
Take 1 dl whole rye grains and 2 dl whole-wheat grains organic grown type. Wash the grains a couple of times and let them soak in water over night. Remove the water and let the grains sprout in darkness in a bowl under a piece of cloth for 24 hours, rinse them once and let them sprout for another 24 hours.
Put the sprouted grains in a big glass jar and add 3 litre temperate and clean water and a couple of raisins to kick start the fermentation. Let it stay in darkness at room temperature for two days or perhaps 12 hours more depending on the rate of the fermentation. Move the juice into containers and store them in the fridge. Then remove the raisins add new ones and add 3 litres more water to get another batch after two days fermentation. The juice should be slightly sparkled freshly sour and malty in taste while grey in colour. The broth that is consumed should be room temperate. An intake of a litre over a day may be a recommended dose. This will make the stomach feel very confident.
A drink that is very energising can be made by combining this lactic acid broth with some mong bean sprouts, add two dates a banana and a grain of salt and then mix them in a high-speed blender.
Next step, if having need for serious vitalization, is to grow wheatgrass and to get a slow juicer for squeezing that juice, such juicer also produces the best juice from carrots, beetroots, leaf celery, ginger and so on. The one I use do 47 revolutions a minute, the slower the better.
An unhealthy life is a misery and a fit person tends to make better decisions.
“The food you eat can either be the safest and most powerful form of medicine or the slowest form of poison”
Ann Wigmore
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Thanks for taking the time and care to share all those great tips.
I was astonished when they announced (or admitted) the discovery in 2017 of the lymphatic system of the central nervous system. Hard to imagine that such a major aspect of our anatomy went unknown for so long. It’s like in physics where Miles shows there are so many basic things about the world near us that we don’t understand, and instead physics likes to hide out in the unknowable and irrelevant.
https://www.fiercebiotech.com/research/brain-s-recently-discovered-lymphatic-system-linked-to-aging-and-alzheimer-s
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Thanks Josh.
Good find there. Surprise surprise. The brain has a lymph system!
Apparently it has been very difficult to explore and map the lymph system by anatomical means since that tissue of connected channels have a somewhat slimy and undefined consistence. Not a sexy research area and almost uncovered in the training of doctors. Nothing to see here, move on please, sort of.
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Hi Josh et.al.,
Health and nutrition is a controversial topic, especially with all the vegan brainwash being pushed on us to sell us re-packaged high profit margin health-destroying grains and other industrially fabricated crops as “plant based” “foods”.
I have been studying this quite a lot on this for the last 15 months and found virtually all nutrition vs. health studies are very poor so you have to search very hard and deep to find some nuggets from the dirt.
In summary, to prevent and cure metabolism related diseases (that is a very long list) start with these three:
No sugars (also from fruits, unless it is little sugar packaged with a lot of fiber)
No grains (all of them)
No vegetable oils (most of them should be considered poison)
Next post we’ll focus on what to eat instead, have to sleep first now.
Steven
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Thanks, Steven. Could you give some examples of what you mean by metabolism related diseases? Especially ones that aren’t usually thought of as metabolism-related?
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Hi Steven, I love your posts defending Miles all over the web. Keep up the good work.
Question related to your post: what do you think of the youngevity brand’s products? In the last 3 months I have been taking “Beyond Tangy Tangerine 2.0”, and I’m not mentioning this as a plug, but merely to ask whether you think such a product is healthy to take? I quite like Dr. Joel Wallach and Dr. Glidden, although I know the latter was semi-involved with Alex Jones’ shows which immediately puts me on guard as he is a known asset, and thus anyone involved with that show is also likely an asset as well.
Thanks,
Russ
PS sorry I haven’t been posting much lately, my job is so damn stressful and paying the bills on my one bedroom apartment in nj is more expensive than you might imagine (I want to move down south or out west, where I could pay 1/2 the current rent I do!) However, I cannot leave my family, so here I shall stay.
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Russ, I had considered getting some of that. How has it been going for you?
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I find it extremely hard to trust and companies or products these days, having found from our little community here that most of our science is woefully inept, and categorically wrong in most arenas. I mean, how much can these doctors truly know about the human body if they don’t know about the charge field, for one? These are the thoughts I find myself having on a regular basis, when I find myself swooned by any marketing campaign or ad.
With that said, I feel very good, something about the formula has me feeling healthier than when I have taken multivitamins in the past for several months, only to give it up because it upset my stomach.
My mom takes it now as well, and I also convinced her to start one of the bone and joint supplements because she has pretty bad arthritis in her hands, and I’m hoping that might provide her the raw materials she needs to create some new cartilage in her fingers. The way these naturopaths (wallach, glidden) describe it is: your body can do do all of the healing on it’s own, all it really needs is the proper raw materials, materials that most people are deficient in. I can’t say I know this is true, but my intuition tells me that it must be closer to the truth than the allopathic doctors who, with their billions of dollars spent still cannot cure heartburn.
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I would recommend getting one month supply and taking it everyday for 2 weeks, and if you find it’s helpful, take it from there.
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Thanks, I might do that! Bushwakker recommended some supplements from ATP Science. They have a lot of good information on their website as well.
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RT, I’m not so sure about that product. They seem to take a “just throw everything in approach” which isn’t always best. For instance zinc. It’s a chelating agent, meaning it will strip out heavy metals (good), but also trace minerals. Meaning it shouldn’t be included in a produce with trace minerals. Things like iron, calcium etc.. in that product might not work due to the zinc. They also have all the vitamins even though b and c are water soluble and the others fat soluble. So while you are likely getting some goodness out of it, it won’t all be working. They also have their ingredients list “as x”. For instance, Vitamin C “as ascorbic acid”, which means it is ascorbic acid, not true vitamin C. It’s an isolated extract. The fact the extracts are “synergized with” food sources is a plus as it will help them work better, but I don’t think it means the extracts are from those food sources. And although they give you the amount of extract on the label, they don’t give the amount of food source. I personally think they’ve tried to use clever wording to make a product that is largely synthetic, appear largely natural.
I looked at another product on their website, the minerals one. They don’t even give a fact label with it. There is a downloadable pdf, and amongst other things it contains… flouride.
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Hi Benjamin,
We were speaking together in an earlier thread the other day about Chlorine Dioxide. I just wanted you to know I gave it a try in the form of “Closys”, a mouthwash whose main ingredient is Chlorine Dioxide, and that within my first several uses, I am no longer bleeding from my gums at all during brushing my teeth. I tried it because of this thread, and it is honestly the best solution I could have hoped for. It’s actually available in a lot of places, check it out man. (You don’t need to order it from that shady ass MMS website)
Regards,
Russell T.
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Thanks RT, nice find. I might have to give it a go after all. The “Ultra Sensitive” line looks the most appealing – no sucralose (as in “sensitive) or flouride (as in “silver 55+”). It’s funny how its ADA (American Dental Association – largest dental association in America) accepted, while MMS is slandered. I can’t make head or tail of what’s going on here. Divisive stuff.
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Stephen, I’m interested as to why you say all vegetable oils are akin to poison. Is due to the oxidation of oils? If so, would you expand that to include all plant based oils, such as essential oils? Or is more to do with the reaction of vegetable oils with heat when used in cooking? What’s the reasoning?
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@RT, re STRESS etc.
I posted earlier here about Vitamin C and B5 for stress. The C is actually needed in all blood vessels etc too, to prevent stroke and heart disease, but the C is used first in the adrenals for stress. The adrenals need the B5 too. Best source of B5 is rice bran. Best source of C is amla berry powder (tastes terrible) or rose hip powder (powders don’t oxidize as quickly as other forms). Bamboo is best source for silica. That and gelatin are good for bone health. Magnesium malate or citrate is good for many things, including to reduce blood pressure, relaxing muscles (blood vessels have muscle tissue surrounding them, which causes them to contract or dilate, thus increasing or decreasing blood pressure).
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@Josh – now that Grant Genereux has laid such a formidable foundation with his 3 books on the toxicity of retinol/retinoic acid, he’s building a mansion upon it. This morning I awoke to the surprise of his second post in two days. If he keeps connecting dots like his latest on Statins and Cholesterol, he may go down in history as the one humble guy who took down the medical cartel. Ha!!
Hope you find this one useful.
ggenereux.blog
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Thanks!
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This vitamin A thing could be all misdirection to take the heat off of toxic chemicals that our rulers are putting in our food supply
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Philip, thank you for using your first comment to warn us about misdirection. You’ll excuse me for being a bit circumspect. Of course you’re right, we must also be on our toes, no doubt. But actually Vitamin A (let’s call it retinol) is a poison. That’s why the body’s immune system uses it to kill foreign cells. That’s why it’s used as a chemotherapy drug and to get rid of acne (think Retin-A or Accutane). And they are adding it to our food supply, especially in the U.S. So how can the claim that they are poisoning our food supply be misdirection away from the claim that they are poisoning our food supply?
I think it’s the opposite that’s going on. I think all the attention in conspiracy circles on fluoride, vaccines, chemtrails, pesticides etc. is itself misdirection AWAY from retinol (vitamin A). Of course NONE of those things are good for us. Just the opposite. However, I don’t think any of those things can explain the incredible surge in auto-immune disease and cancers. Grant Genereux has a second e-book that is also well worth reading, called Poisoning for Profits. Keep in mind that Grant is not trying to sell anything and gives the e-books away for free.
In it, he lists 5 criteria for determining if something is a chronic poisoning. They are:
in other words, it presents in significant geographic or even
regional clusters.
It has had a dramatic increase in incidence rates over the last
few decades.
It has moved significantly lower in the average age of onset
over the last few decades.
Small children, and/or teenagers are now getting the disease
at rates never seen before in their age groups.
But we could as well use those criteria to determine if things like vaccines, fluoridation, pesticides, etc. are causing auto-immune disorders and cancers.
Take fluoride. Again, I’m not here to suggest that fluoride is safe. Not at all. But they don’t fluroidate the water in continental Europe or Japan, both of which have very rates of auto-immune disorders and cancer. People in developing countries have a lot of toxic chemicals sprayed on their food and also live amongst a lot of pollution, but they have much lower rates of auto-immune disorders and cancer than the West. We can go down the line with all of these poisons. The only one that fits the bill is retinol. Not only that, retinol poisoning is known to cause symptoms that mimic auto-immune disorders. That is established science. (Of course, it isn’t mimicking anything — it is causing the so-called auto-immune response). In his book on Poisoning for Profits he goes through all old studies going back to the 20’s and early on retinol and showing how the science that led to causing retinol to be labeled a vitamin was bad and even corrupt.
But here we should not be surprised by the sheer perversity of TPTB: let’s take a poison, call it a vitamin, tell everyone it’s healthy and make them afraid that if they don’t get enough of this vitamin they will get sick and go blind. Then we’ll add it to the food supply. Meanwhile, everyone gets sick, giving us more money and them less strength to resist. And when somebody finally figures it out, we’ll claim they’re misdirecting.
[Edit: actually, the first reaction will most often be ridicule: are you nuts? It’s a vitamin! It’s good for us! You can die if you don’t get enough! Which is the insidious genius of dressing it up as a vitamin. But Philip is a doctor, so he knows that it’s poisonous. Some may remember that I spent several pages in my first Smedley Butler paper talking about auto-immune diseases (including chronic pain) and how they must be environmentally caused. At that time I could only speculate on what might be the causes but suspected that TPTB know what it is and hence it is a classic example of a (highly lucrative) “racket.” I think Grant makes a very compelling case that all auto-immune diseases have a singular root cause: the toxic effects of too much vitamin A. This is a very important issue to me as two of my close family members suffer from various forms of auto-immune diseases (or what I am coming to recognize as symptoms of retinol poisoning). And by the way, it’s not only limited to what are currently labeled as auto-immune diseases. It includes things like depression, anxiety, ADHD, autism, type-2 diabetes, CFS and just general “brain fog.” Basically all the diseases that have hit modern society hard and are growing worse.]
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Fluoride is present in nearly every toothpaste in the UK. When I first read about Fluoride from Miles, I sought out a brand without it. I had to go online to find a shop that even stocked non-fluoride toothpaste. They range from 3 to 6 times dearer than my usual brands. What a racket.
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This is interesting discussion that has inspired me on to more research. Here’s what I’ve learnt. There are two types of Vitamin A: Retinol, and the Carotenoids. Carotenoids are abundant in fruit and vegetables, and retinol is found only in animal products – liver, some fish, cod liver oil, egg yolks, dairy (and perhaps in small amounts in other meat cuts). It’s the animal form, retinol, that is said to be toxic. If so, this suggests humans are not designed to eat it – supporting the arguments of those who believe milk from another animal isn’t designed for human consumption, and extending it to include livers and ovaries. However, if the human body doesn’t have enough, we convert carotenoids into retinol. So retinol is essential for humans, but consuming retinol isn’t, so long as we are consuming enough carotenoids (and assuming the gene that converts carotenoids into retinol is functioning correctly). Anyone eating a healthy diet of fruit and vegetables will be consuming carotenoids.
Noticeably, all liver products seem to contain > than 100% DV vitamin A. So anyone eating that daily (and there would be many out there taking a daily spoonful of cod liver oil) is overdosing on that alone. Aside from some fish in the 25-50% DV range, dairy and other meat products with retinol is ~10% or less DV. However if retinol is poison, then the DV of Vitamin A is misleading, as it includes both carotenoids and retinol, when they perhaps should be separated (in which case, > 0% would be a concern).
Josh and hillcountry, if the rate of auto-immune conditions has increased dramatically this century (or however long), and one was to blame retinol, they would have to prove how consumption of retinol has also increased dramatically over the same period. Is that the case? Has the consumption of liver, eggs and dairy dramatically increased? (I’m quite sure the consumption of cod liver oil has – it would be interesting to see a correlation between incidences of auto immune diseases in areas with high cod liver oil consumption). Are common supermarket foods or cosmetics or conditioners or drugs being fortified with retinol?
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@Benjamin
“If the rate of auto-immune conditions has increased dramatically this century (or however long), and one was to blame retinol, they would have to prove how consumption of retinol has also increased dramatically over the same period. Is that the case?”
Great question, and in the research I did today, I found a possible answer. Grant points out that they supplement milk and many other processed foods with vitamin A, which is suggestive of increased retinol intake but far from conclusive. But there are countries that aren’t fortifying (as much) that have similar increases. So something doesn’t seem quite right. But! It turns out that the body has a way to break down vitamin A but glyphosate blocks inhibits this pathway. So there is an interaction going on between glyphosate and vitamin A, and it could be that many or even most of the negative effects blamed on glyphosate are due to retinol.
I’m getting ready for bed, so I don’t have more to say about it at the moment, but in my search I found a naturopath in Tucson who discovered Grant’s work and incorporated it into his own practice in a big way. According to him, he is the only health care provider that has incorporated Grant’s work, as far as Grant is aware. Here is the page on his blog where he shares his research into vitamin A and glyphosate, along with other topics: https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/
As for the claim that humans need retinol, it appears to be false. Grant has basically proven this in several ways, but this naturopath goes into more detail in the video I link to below, which is where I learned about the glyphosate connection and many other things. It’s worth watching. I’m going to purchase his detox/diet protocol. I’ll update here when I learn more.
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Benjamin you really should read Grant’s book. Both the first and second, Poisoning for Profit. He’s already done a ton of research and shows many errors in the work. I think it would provide you with tools to read the existing research on retinol in a different light and be able to spot the BS better.
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Glyphosate again, my God. It’s just sickening. I will read Grant’s book. I dismissed this topic initially because I couldn’t see how something so naturally abundant in healthy foods could be a dangerous toxin. But having learnt it is not one thing, but two, from completely different sources, and that one those sources might not have been intended for human consumption, has flicked a switch.
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@Benjamin
Yes, it is two things. But also keep in mind that because vitamin A is in so many skin-care and beauty products we use (like sunscreen for example and acne medicine), we are exposed to it much, much more than in the past when it was only in our diet. Detoxing from vitamin A involves a lot more than food.
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As mentioned, it seems carotenoids only convert to retinol as required by the body, so we can eat those as desired. But any excess retinol can be stored for up to two years. This might explain how the situation can become chronic. It also suggests that undoing the damage will be a lengthy process.
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Thanks nice write up..I’m just skeptical but still open to retinol being a poison..I’m skeptical about even all the other crystalline vitamins. What would be considered a low retinol diet? And have you done it with benefit?
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If it wasn’t a poison they couldn’t use it as a chemotherapy drug now would they? You couldn’t get well-documented vitamin a poisoning could you? What kind of a doctor are you, anyway? I’m not going to do your research for you. There are plenty of links here for you to follow if you wish to educate yourself.
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@Josh – wow, those are great comments! Enjoyed reading them. It’s tricky getting the essentials across in short order but have quite the knack and are really nailing it.
@ Benjamin – Grant was posting only once or twice a year for the first few years of his blog and each of those is really worth reading, but if I were to choose the one that might answer some of your questions in detail, it would be the one on the connections between Eczema, Crohn’s and Alzheimer’s. That was Feb 2015 – just scroll down his home page – it’s continuous.
Another idea would be to jump to Chapter 7 of his ETFOH book at
Grant had a problem after he’d cleared out the retinoids in his skin and other non-hepatic tissues (I’m presuming the latter). He took Lutein and Zeaxanthin carotenoids for six weeks and had major flaring of eczema for six months. So, he’s not convinced that the science on them only converting as needed is correct. It probably has to do with liver-saturation as a pre-condition for hyper-sensitivity.
Foods like dairy and cereal products have been fortified since the early 70’s with Retinyl Palmitate. There’s reportedly over 700 skin-care products using retinoids.
I ran some numbers for friends eating “healthy” – i.e. lots of kale, carrots, tomatoes, fish, supplements, etc. and found how easy it is to approach and exceed the National Institute of Health’s warning-level of 40,000 IU a day for Vitamin A. That is where a person gets into the Hepato-Toxicity zone.
Having read Grant’s work forwards and backwards twice now, and with about 50 PubMed papers under my belt, I’d be happy to discuss the subject further over here, particularly regarding ways to possibly speed up the detox, and/or interrupting the negative effects. I’m digging into that area more than any other at this point, looking for shortcuts and ways to mitigate/palliate recurring flare-ups while on a low-retinoid diet. Others are doing the same on Grant’s blog. Lot’s of stories of success and bumps along the way. It’s a cooperative thing, not much trolling; although I think there’s a sophisticated blackwash and flanking thing in the works that bears watching. How could there not be with the level of import this subject carries?
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@Josh – insert “YOU have quite the knack..”
@Benjamin – clarification on “… liver saturation as a pre-condition for hyper-sensitivity” It should be added that the immune system apparently can get to the point of being on a “hair-trigger” and over-react to even small amounts of toxins. I personally discovered this a few years ago when mold-toxins were messing with my autonomic nervous system. Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker has a lot to say on that subject. Now that I’m aware of the retinoid problem, I wonder how it might be implicated in the variable sensitivities people have to mold, fungus and related toxins they emit.
@Philip Spelson – I’ve been on a very low-retinol/carotene diet for a few months and have noticed reduced inflammation, better sleep, more stamina, and I think my eyesight is improving, as I noticed recently times when I forget to put reading glasses on and did OK – but that might also be due to standing in front of red/infrared panels a few times a week with eyes closed, but photons still penetrating to the retina.
Most lean meats are on the list, fortunately. Rice. White potato (no skin). White beans. Cauliflower. Grapes. Cashews and Macadamia nuts. From there it’s low-levels in Parsnips, Rutabaga, Turnips, Walnuts, Lentils, darker beans, and lots of others.
Grant said the FDA has a new ruling going into effect in 2019 where manufacturers no longer have to identify Vitamin A content on food labels. We couldn’t rely on those anyway, but it’s par for the course that they’d sort of admit we’ve all got plenty of Vitamin A now, and at the same time screen the average consumer from the 6% in their yogurt, plus the X% in their cereal, etc. Nobody will be able to easily figure it out any longer, not that the RDA or FV is at all meaningful. I think it’s the head of a Diabetes Association that’s been thumping the table for an RDA of 800 IU per day.
Now that the old guys who know the full story are passing on, perhaps we have a window of opportunity to change course before North America collectively hits an Autoimmune-Cancer-Autism-Alzheimer’s brick wall a decade or two ahead.
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Yes , I was shocked to see how easy it is to hit the % dv of vitamin a from common healthy fruit and veg, multiple times over. It’s for this reason I believe carotenoids must be much less troublesome than retinol, or the human race would have been in serious trouble right from the start. But perhaps as you say if the liver is already over stressed with this stuff, it’s then that it becomes a problem. Also, the dv is probably not the most accurate guide for carotenoids, as it is based on retinol. I suspect if it were based on carotenoids it would be much higher, but we can’t know exactly how much. Given there is little use for carotenes in anyone with excess retinol, I can see how a diet that also cuts out carotenes might be a way to fast track retinols removal, forcing the body to find stored retinol to use up, instead of carotene. Of course I’m new to this, so if there’s any flaws in my reasoning feel free to point it out. That’s interesting how abundant it is in skin care products. They say women are more susceptible to chronic fatigue than men. Women are also more likely to use skin products than men. I wonder if there is a link?
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This is good stuff, Benjamin. But I think it’s only part of the story. I’m woe to consider a single nutrient to be a chief cause, since we’re being filled with so many poisons in mainstream food. But it’s still another piece of the puzzle and great information. Maybe a major piece. The physiology is still so complex to me that it seems unfathomable; it’s a lot more complex to study than anything else in physics, to me, but perhaps that’s just my fog of war.
Regardless, thanks to all of you for delving and divulging this kind of information. The more puzzle pieces in place, the better.
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I feel the same way. Dairy, poultry and liver meals have been around for thousands of years, so if it didn’t cause auto immune disease then, how can it suddenly do so now? Are we simply eating more of it? I don’t know, that would require further research. I don’t think we can blame modern farming practices, because although they’ve certainly taken a dive, it surely doesn’t effect the retinol content. Eg. the same amount of retinol exists in animals, and therefore our diet, now as then. Given it was only discovered in 1912, I doubt historical data exists to prove this for us, so in order to see how much difference it makes, we’d need to set up a controlled experiment farming those animals in two different ways.
There may be an increase in retinol’s use in cosmetics, and certainly the consumption of cod liver oil has increased, but not everyone who falls ill consumes those things. Anyway, I’m intrigued enough to read Grant’s work and maintain an open mind. Even if its not the main culprit for chronic modern disease, like you say, it could be a piece of the puzzle. If it is toxic, ridding it would only be to our benefit, and it could be a pointer towards things we shouldn’t be eating. The health web is a hell of a thing to untangle.
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@Benjamin – No, I don’t think there’s any flaws to your thinking at all. It’s impressive and acute. Your observation about fast tracking retinol removal by avoiding carotenes is surely part of the equation. Isn’t it fitting that it took a geologist to uncover this?
There’s so much information about retinoid metabolism (I think Grant mentioned it was the most studied biological family of molecules ever) that integrating the complexity resulting from a long-term chronic build-up of retinoids in extra-hepatic tissues and cells is a fascinating challenge.
Most research papers would have us believe retinoids are signaling molecules; particularly retinoic acid, the most dangerous one it seems; and that they are necessary for a plethora of biological processes from embryogenesis to all the rest.
It’s difficult to fathom how far from reality they have strayed, but when one considers the sophistication of the equipment being used to verify the unquestioned assumptions of two or three generations of faulty reasoning, it becomes a bit more clear, although it’s still a challenge. I’m not sure I accept the narrative we’ve been given on Copernicus and Galileo, but that would be the most fitting analogy to the present situation.
My focus now is on how to bio-hack the elimination of those molecules. Not so much for myself but for friends who are in a more dire situation. Part of that focus is on the soluble fibers required to feed the gut microbes that produce stabilizing substances like butyrate, which by itself is a massive subject to master.
I noticed you guys don’t mind the posts getting narrower, so I’ll start responding that way to keep the pattern consistent.
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@hillcountry
Yes I would like information on your detox diet. I suffer from multiple autoimmune problems including eczema. My entire family also has under active thyroid as do multiple cousins and aunts. We are Irish and thyroid problems seem to be a big problem going way back with the Irish. not sure Vit A is the cause but willing to try the diet.
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Hi mswinkle – that’s my main issue as well, thyroid. It seems like it’s one of those threads that runs through/along-with the other “autoimmune” diseases, like for me, periodontal, and for you eczema. Osteoporosis is the other one that overlaps everything because the body will do whatever is necessary to keep blood pH in a tight range and calcium is the buffer when acids are present.
I think you’d most benefit from visiting Grant’s blog and looking at what people are doing on the diet side. Grant lived for 18 months plus on beef, beans and rice exclusively, but most are not able to toe the zero-A line quite that rigorously. My daily intake of retinoids is probably a few hundred IU per day. There’s about point three micrograms in one IU if memory serves. We’re all experimenting to find out what works for us and learning from each other’s experiences, as we’re all different.
ggenereux.blog
I can say from my own experience that doing Grant’s zero-regimen for a month convinced me that it was worth keeping retinoid intake very low. Some people don’t experience that though, so there’s more going on than just retinoid toxicity, even when the various symptoms are similar.
Grants front-page blog posts on Eczema are going to be very useful to you. They are long and inclusive of his long-term experience of overcoming it and the pitfalls along the way. Best of results to you.
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@mswinkle
Here is a link to some research that Garrett compiled on retinol and thyroid problems. I’ll e-mail you his protocol in a bit.
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I still have some skepticism about the numbers that are being generated by various appendages of the medical system; regarding breast cancer rates, increase in autism, and the rest. There’s definitely some fear being peddled in the conventional world as well as the so-called alternative. On the other hand, it seems like everyone I ask knows somebody with one or more of these inflammatory diseases. I’m meeting young farmers at local markets who are on immune-modulating drugs for Crohn’s. I’m meeting caregivers at an old-folks apartment complex who have gut issues, chronic fatigue, insomnia, migraines, and other issues that make them miss shifts. These are just kids in my lexicon; 20’s and 30’s. The turnover-rate there is phenomenal. I’m meeting middle-age people at their wits end with the way they’re being treated by their doctors (and it seems money doesn’t even matter these days), who are willing to shell out significant dollars to “functional medicine” doctors who may “listen” to them but have no cures either, just the same advice you can hear for free on PBS infomercials.
Like always, the rubber meets the road in personal experience, so it’s great to be able to easily test the retinoid-toxicity problem without additional expense or much inconvenience. There are enough people now reporting 6 months to a years worth of results (and problems) to give some hope that it can address a lot of previously insoluble health issues. Faith and science are fine, but good results are better.
There are other things that can cause some of these “auto-immune” problems though, and it would be myopic not to recognize that fact. The pre-eminent culprit for me, prior to running across Grant’s work last year, was (and still is in a way) dental infections, root canals, and jaw-bone cavitations harboring infectious agents that are constantly leaking out into other tissues. This subject is covered extensively in George Meinig’s book Root Canal Cover-Up. Hal Huggins was involved in dredging-up the dental research of Weston Price in the 20’s that proved the non-focal nature of dental infections, particularly root canals. Meinig was one of the founders of the Endodontist Association and had performed root canals on patients for decades. When he saw the research he stopped doing them. An easy way to hear the story these days is to watch Dr Thomas Levy’s lectures on YouTube. He’s got a lot of important things to say about attaining health and he’s run the gauntlet himself.
I forgot to look for the poster who linked that Borax Conspiracy article, but many thanks for that. I’m heading over to PubMed to see how much of the story is leaking out/through. I’ve found that looking for the “cracks” in the Vitamin A research papers is a useful way to go about gathering helpful data. And I back-spaced the URL where the article came from and see there’s a boat-load of interesting stuff archived over there. Yikes, how many hours in a day are there? See y’all.
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edit: “… that proved the non-focal nature of dental infections, particularly those existing inside the tooth that has been root canaled”.
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Keep up the good work! When it comes to health issues, everyone is looking for what they can take to make it better. But clearly, it is equally as important to understand what needs to be left out, and in the modern world, that is a great many things
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Here’s one “smoking gun” paper from PubMed about the Glyphosate – Retinoic Acid connection. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20695457
Chem Res Toxicol. 2010 Oct 18
Glyphosate-based herbicides produce teratogenic effects on vertebrates by impairing retinoic acid signaling.
Paganelli A1, Gnazzo V, Acosta H, López SL, Carrasco AE.
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Abstract snip:
“Therefore, we conclude that the phenotypes produced by GBH are mainly a consequence of the increase of endogenous retinoid activity. This is consistent with the decrease of Sonic hedgehog (Shh) signaling from the embryonic dorsal midline, with the inhibition of otx2 expression and with the disruption of cephalic neural crest development. The direct effect of glyphosate on early mechanisms of morphogenesis in vertebrate embryos opens concerns about the clinical findings from human offspring in populations exposed to GBH in agricultural fields.”
GBH = Glyphosate Based Herbicide
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Why is glyphosate sprayed on crops before harvest?
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_industryweapons385.htm
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Also, i read earlier that American farmers have a special procedure on toxic crops. As they are not allowed to let toxicity levels to go over specific measures, they blend toxic with non toxic to get their crops under the red line.
If glyphosate is disabling the body’s ability to break down or use retinoids, then its the medium making retinol a poison. In this way it still may be a vitamin. The damage is double, as we cannot utilize the vitamin.
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No, glyphosate is not stopping the body from using vitamin A. But it is stopping the cells from breaking down retinoic acid. All of the fundamental studies showing that vitamin A is an essential nutrient are flawed and actually show the reverse: it is a nasty toxin that leads to the disintegration of organic tissue.
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Thanks Josh for all the data on the Vit A wheeze; and for providing your informed opinion on said data. You didn’t have to so thanks again.
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Sure thing.
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Ah, I didn’t see the context of your comment, Runar. Now I see why you’re saying the glyphoste is disabling the body’s ability to use retinoids. I’m not 100% certain about this, but I am convinced that the so-called ‘retinoid’ receptors in cells that comprise the “retinoid signalling pathway” have been misnamed. Retinoids are not the only ligands to those receptors. DHA and phytanic acid are likelier candidates as to the ‘natural’ ligands for those receptors, but there are many more. So even though they call it the ‘retinoid pathway’ or whatever, that doesn’t actually mean that the pathway needs retinol to work. Here are some relevant posts on this topic:
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/topic/there-is-nothing-essential-or-vital-about-poison-vitamin-a-part-1-the-real-world/
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/topic/there-is-nothing-essential-or-vital-about-poison-vitamin-a-part-3-molecular-evidence/
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/topic/there-is-nothing-essential-or-vital-about-poison-vitamin-a-part-3-multiple-other-things-can-do-its-job/
What this means is that the study that Frycook posted on glyphosate disrupting this pathway is correct — the body apparently needs this pathway working properly. But it does not need retinol for it to function properly. Or at least, I’m almost certain at this point that it doesn’t. I think you could easily find populations of people who had no vitamin A at all in their diet and had perfectly happy kids for generations — for example, eskimo tribes. In fact I think that might be mentioned in the first link above. Don’t remember and don’t have time to check.
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@Josh – would you ask Miles to read the wiki on Stephanie Seneff? I’d really like to hear his opinion, and yours as well. Red flags, imho.
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I would too.. I would like him to look into Ray Peat although he doesn’t have a wiki page but has a connection and ran with Madeline Murray ohair for a bit I believe and Peat has mentioned it in an interview that I can’t find at the moment
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Ray Peat diet is very high in Vitamin A.
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I’m not sold on vitamin A as a poison yet..Peat is not well known on msm circles so makes him much less suspicious as say mercola et al…I found Grant G. Through Matt Stone.
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I don’t really feel like I have any special pull with Miles, at least when it comes to something like that. You should ask him yourself.
In my opinion her Wikipedia entry reads like a hit piece written by Monsanto’s PR guy, who rumor has it still lives in his parent’s basement…😂
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OK, will do, that last bit cracked me up, thanks for the chuckle! I’m reverse-engineering how a cointelpro, blackwash might work on this retinoid toxicity story. There’s already tar on the baby so to speak (glyphosate “controversy”, manufactured long in advance, weaponized for deployment). Not that glyphosate isn’t a poison too, but if intel is as sophisticated as it appears to be, then two-birds-one-stone is pretty efficient.
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Done! Hope Miles adds his thoughts here.
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Hill, what do you see as the red flags on Seneff?
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Long story Josh, maybe some other time.
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@hillcountry
Look for the detox protocol in your e-mail inbox. I sent it to you.
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Thanks Josh, got it.
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@hill
Great. Have you been following Garrett Smith’s slew of posts piecing together clinical studies on retinol and its relationship to various diseases. That guy is firing on all cylinders. He is filling in a lot of blanks that Grant left open.
Here’s his latest on retinol’s impact on brain health and Alzheimers:
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/topic/alzheimers-disease-ad-2/
Key Points:
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FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN VITAMIN A DETOX:
So I found a naturopath located in Tucson (Garrett Smith) who is the first healthcare professional to take Grant Genereux’s work on retinol toxicity seriously. He believes (as I do) that this is the greatest recent discovery in all of medicine and nutrition, and I am not given to hyperbole.
He was the one who put together the missing piece about glyphosate — that glyphosate inhibits the body’s breakdown of retinoic acid (vitamin A). And he calls Mike Adams controlled opposition! He has worked with Grant in developing a vitamin A detox protocol. The two key parts to the protocol are:
Taking zeolite powder. (Powder or pills, not liquid.) It helps detox from retinol and glyphosate. Of course filter your water and eat organic as much as possible.
I ponied up $97 to buy his detox protocol guidelines. It’s very good, extremely informative, detailed, etc. If anyone wants a copy just e-mail me at joshg99@pm.me. I had to screenshot it from uncopy-able google docs, so it’s just a bunch of pictures pasted into a Word document and formatted a bit. There are lots of hyperlinks but you can’t follow them. If you can afford it, just pay him for it. All you need is $97 and a gmail address. Actually, if you can afford it, I suggest becoming a patient and getting a mineral analysis done and his personalized recommendations.
Here is Garret’s website:
https://nutritionrestored.com/
And here is the part on his webpage where he shares a lot of research and other information on vitamin A and related topics:
https://nutritionrestored.com/blog-forum/
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Thanks Josh I’ll check this out and email you if needed. I found some zeolite powder online.
I actually believe I ‘half-cured’ (for lack of a better description) my IBS condition back in December, using some homemade high-grade, high potency CBD oil, along with some suggestions that were given here.
It’s too early to tell yet but since then it’s been feeling like a miracle so far. I had this awful cheese-grater like feeling the right side (liver,intestines) for about a year, and the oil took it right out. I still get my usual IBS reactions but they are much, much more mild.
I’ve been suffering from IBS for about 7-8 years now which also has developed into a skin issue, which seems like a 2nd stage version of IBS. I don’t really accept standard medicine’s categorization of it since it doesn’t seem like they know what they are doing anymore. Docs have admitted to me and others around here they cannot do anything about it.
And since they are admittedly useless (and as the medical capitalists they truly are they will offer your $700 to be a human guinea pig in their IBS pill trials around here) I’ve long since abandoned standard medicine and been experimenting on myself and trying to figure out what’s really going on here and how to fix myself. Eliminating this and that, detoxing with that, etc. It’s been a painful but incredible journey so far, and I’m actually considering taking online classes in Herbalism and maybe getting into Naturopathy as a way to help others and support myself. I wish I could find a herbalist to apprentice under but this area of Ohio seems to be void of any.
But anyways I wanted to mention I tried the Borax cleanse about a week or so after the CBD oil intake, and I think it helped. The key behind this is to clean out fluoride from your system. I can’t say for 100% certainty but my skin felt cleansed (my skin felt firm like it never did before) and I overall felt better after the initial detox phase was over with. And you’ll know when you need to stop drinking it.
Also on CBD oils for anyone reading: the low-grade, hemp derived CBD oils you’ll find sold online and often in health stores (especially in states where MJ isn’t legal yet) are mostly a waste of time and money. A well-bred medical strain (there are growers who specialize in medical strains) is what you need for pain and inflammation relief. You can also find pure or mostly pure CBD strains (that don’t get you high) out there in dispensaries but from my experience the medicine effects work best closer to a 1:1 % ratio with THC. Mind-body connection I take it.
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Philip, Garrett Smith recommends zeolite pure powder from Zeo Health after doing some research. He says you have to be careful because it’s basically an unregulated product.
[Edit: Philip has written to me that there may be a problem with this brand of zeolite powder. I’m looking into it and will update.][Edit 2: seems like that brand will be effective.]“I’ve been suffering from IBS for about 7-8 years now which also has developed into a skin issue, which seems like a 2nd stage version of IBS. I don’t really accept standard medicine’s categorization of it since it doesn’t seem like they know what they are doing anymore.”
You are right not to accept it. This is exactly the kind of thing that Genereux talks about in his book. You’ve got to read it! If you had had a skin issue first, they would have called it eczema. They don’t realize that it’s basically the same thing just in different parts of your body. The intestines are like inner skin. So things like Crohn’s and IBS are basically like eczema on your intestines. No wonder it felt like a cheese grater!
I’m glad you’ve found relief with CBD. Grant also talks about why he thinks cannabis can help with some of these conditions. But you’re only treating the symptom, not the underlying cause. Same with the Borax. Garrett lists Boron as one of the things that can help defend against vitamin A toxicity. I would guess that eventually you will need to take more and then more CBD (or Borax!) to keep the symptoms under control. And you are almost certain to develop other auto-immune/inflammatory diseases down the road. Address the cause and you won’t need CBD and you won’t need to worry about more diseases in the future. Seriously. Look into it.
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Thanks again Josh. I’m very intrigued now especially with his say on glyphosate. My research has also lead me down to GMOs/glyphosates being a root cause. I’m liking what I’m reading so far.
Agreed I’m only treating the symptoms here. The problem is cures aren’t profitable and that’s just not how the modern world works. I’m reading Medical Herbalism by David Hoffmann and right away he goes into how ‘market forces’ have utterly distorted medicine, down to the definitions of things. Of course in our context that means the fucking fascist spook families once again..
I live downstream from the Rust Belt surrounded by industrial farmlands, so I’m swimming in a daily cocktail of toxins and poisons and pollutants. Sometimes I wonder even if I do everything right, detox it all.. I’m just never going to fully heal because the environment is so FUBAR.
I mean are they going to stop poisoning us all or are they going to do what I think they are going to do and just double down on everything. I’m tired of hearing another niece or nephew coming down with ‘gluten intolerance’ or a brand new kind of digestive disorder. How the fuck are we supposed to raise families in this poisoned land, for the ruling class to deceive and fleece if they are killing the host? HELLO ARE YOU SHIT-HEEL SPOOKS LISTENING?!
But of course for them it’s just another setup market to exploit. I said medical capitalists in my last post but I really meant medical fascists. These fucking fascists are making a killing both ways.
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“Address the cause and you won’t need CBD and you won’t need to worry about more diseases in the future. Seriously. Look into it.”
I agree. Here’s a personal case of cause, consequence and cure from my experience:
I was burned out in the S. Cal fires and ended up here in Wisconsin. I spend most of my time in a small bedroom, although I have the use of a large house. Needless to say, winters here are different, lots of snow and temps down to 30 below.
My “brilliant” solution was to keep my room warm with a oil-filled radiator and to have a humidifier-vaporizer going 24/7. The last couple of weeks my skin was crawling in certain places with rash patches and terrible itching. Sometimes, like an out of control addiction, I just “had” to scratch the itch, which felt so good before it got way worse.
I tried lotions, antibiotic, anti-fungal and steroid creams. I might get lucky with brief relief but it hardly made a dent in the problem. (I have no faith in dermatologists.) My fear was that I would be stuck with a chronic condition; that prospect was horribly depressing.
Then a small miracle of perfect timing happened; you know, one of those photon thoughts that come out of nowhere. The thought was “heat rash.” I googled it and learned that it is caused by excessive heat and humidity.
I got rid of the humidifier and lowered the temp in my room two days ago. The itching stopped and the rashes faded. I still have rough and crusty skin in places, but I had that in California. I am fair skinned and got way too much sun in my younger days on those Pacific beaches.
A la Anna’s comment on Vitamin A and D below, another helpful thought occurred. My nephew, Stephan, who lives downstairs, has one of those natural sunlight emitters, quite bright. I am going to give it try since I get virtually no direct sunlight in the winter wonderland here.
I am probably getting lots of Vitamin A since I juice carrots and several greens, and eat a raw fruit diet–the latest food change of dozens over years 79. In most of my young and middle age physical working days I ate the standard meat and potatoes American diet; but marriage to a macrobiotic acupuncturist and age specific dietary needs gradually changed all that.
Best of all, I can keep my room S. Cal warm without a problem, and when I put natural-artificial sunlight in, I’ll be in with Flynn. Oh, the joys of technology wisely used!
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I was fighting diverse stomach ailments, and chopped a whole peeled garlic, waited 10 minutes for its healing juices to flow, mixed with mayo and ate it, and sighed. I was thinking now my stomach is going to rebel, but no. It became very very silent and still.
I definitely think it can be used for IBS.
Now i ceased all together to eat Garlic, chili and ginger as they are medicine plants. Only to be used when needed.
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Further to the fascinating articles on Vitamin A poisoning I’m not totally convinced that the so called vitamin is the sole culprit in cases of auto immune diseases. I’ve been trying to do some of my own research on it but getting the time is proving difficult though at some point I WILL get there.
The rough outline of my doubts are these:
If Vitamin A is found in natural food and the body uses valuable energy to actually store it against fear of depletion, it MUST serve a useful purpose.
There is a direct correlation between Vitamin A and D intake . When these are out of BALANCE problems can occur. In poorer countries ( usually those nearer the equator compared to richer Northern hemisphere countries) the fruit and vegetables are usually the highly coloured type and indigenous people could probably eat these with no fear of overdosing with the high levels of Vitamin D ( sunlight ) available from their natural environment. Thus their levels of auto immune diseases are less.
The problem with the Northern countries is in this modern day and age we CAN and DO eat food laden with vitamin A all year round in the absence of the sun being in such a position to enable us to generate any vitamin D under the skin. Hence the imbalance.
As for more and more youngsters getting these diseases now it’s likely that they are erroneously being advised to over protect themselves from the sun …………………….thus denying themselves valuable Vitamin D whilst at the same time eating foods naturally high in Vitamin A plus those foods that are having it artificially added. The whole year round.
I was recently reading up on the demise of the Vikings in Greenland and wondered if this could have anything to do with Vitamin A poisoning. Apparently after a comet hit the Northern hemisphere , conditions changed and they were unable to grow food to sustain them . I wonder if they relied on fish in the absence of a weak sun?
Just a quick outline and I do intend to research far more thoroughly. I’m open to anybody’s thoughts on the matter.
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@anna
“If Vitamin A is found in natural food and the body uses valuable energy to actually store it against fear of depletion, it MUST serve a useful purpose.”
That’s one interpretation of what the body is doing. Another interpretation is that it has nothing to do with “fear of depletion.” The liver is quickly taking retinol and retinoic acid out of the blood stream and storing it because it is so toxic. It is using valuable energy to protect the body.
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The acne treatment push looks like the tip of the retinol iceberg ,
so much anti-aging product being pushed .
https://www.instyle.com/beauty/how-much-anti-aging-cream-costs-over-lifetime
” By the year 2021, the anti-aging beauty category is estimated to gross over $330 billion globally,
with a vast range of products in the category, including serums, tools, masks, and oils….”
( Love that 33 drop . huh ? )
second story down :
” …It makes sense, considering that’s one of the star ingredients in Rodial’s latest skincare collection,
Rodial Booster Drops.
Despite retinol being one of the most powerful anti-aging ingredients out there,
learning how to properly incorporate it into your routine can be intimidating. Hatzistefanis also knew
that her customers were interested in retinol, so she created a
retinol-based booster designed to add to any step of your skincare routine. …”
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So how do they make the retinol ?
Is it from all the commercial fishing operations ?
Something to use the waste for , added value to catch they would call it .
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DF, I don’t know how they make retinol. I assumed it was some kind of industrial or other waste product but I couldn’t find any information about it. I think they turn the fish livers into liver oil, but maybe that’s just cod.
Here I found a very interesting article by Garrett Smith on the Gates foundation’s population control aims and their promotion of retinol in the third world. Makes my stomach turn. He linked to this from his article on Alzheimers Disease that I just linked to in another comment, where he noted that in 1999 Roche pharmaceuticals built a $25 million dollar factory in China to make retinol.
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To say that something is fishy with the retinol mongers would be an understatement .
” Gates foundation’s population control aims and their promotion of retinol in the third world.,,,,”
This clip may seem somewhat crass Josh ,
I have the dvd’s of this mtv show ( an adult parody of a Kid’s Show )
and couldn’t help but see a connection to the G.F.’s agenda .
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Super cool , Anna , you should mention it , this show was on pbs last night .
I was drifting in and out of paying attention , but it sure looks like whoever made this was putting these men on a pedestal and picked some interesting noses in the casting .
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@anna – if you haven’t run across this site yet, you might find the comment section worthwhile. http://180degreehealth.com/blog/
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Here is a UK Government report that lists the Vitamin A content of some processed foods (there seem to be an awful lot of caveats regarding how they measured the Vitamin A content btw!).
Obviously it is a government publication so maybe all of it is a lie but I’m only starting to research this Vitamin A wheeze, so please forgive me if I naively start out with toxic sources 😛
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nutrient-analysis-of-processed-foods-including-trans-fats
I found the existence of all the caveats a little bit intriguing…
oe= Total vitamin A calculated from retinol and beta-carotene assuming no alpha-carotene or cryptoxanthins present
¥= Total vitamin A calculated assuming (based on sub-sample ingredients and product information) that retinol, alpha-carotene or cryptoxanthins are not present
¢= Total vitamin A has not been calculated because retinol was not measured in this sample and small quantities of retinol may be present (based on sub-sample ingredients and product information)
š = Total vitamin A calculated assuming (based on sub-sample ingredients and product information) that carotenoids are not present
ƒ= Total vitamin A calculated assuming (based on sub-sample ingredients and product information) that retinol is not present
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This is in response to Alan Ackley’s recent comment on another thread about how he gets enough vitamin A through beta carotene, which breaks down into vitamin A as needed:
Not only is vitamin A NOT a vital nutriet, it is toxic in any form, including beta carotene. In other words, there is no such thing as an “as needed” basis for beta carotene or vitamin A.
Although the body transforms beta carotene into retinol more slowly via some pathways, beta carotene in the skin breaks down to retinol naturally–it is not done on an “as needed” basis. Furthermore, beta carotene actually increases the toxicity of retinol in the system, so it acts synergistically as well. And to top it all off, both randomized clinical trials and meta-analyses show that beta carotene supplements lead to increased rates of cancer and death.
I strongly suggest you stop taking spirulina, drastically reduce consumption of vitamin A and all carotenoids (including beta carotene)–and that includes in any creams or ointments or medications–and limit your supplements to ascorbic acid (vit C), vitamin E (see my reply in the Defense of Miles Mathis thread to Philip Cox for specific product recommendations), and maybe zinc though too much zinc can throw other things out of whack so better to just try to get that through food if you can. On top of that you might consider taking zeolite powder (though they are not all equal by any means).
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Thanks for all the links and research hill & Josh!
I started reading GG’s ‘Poisoning for Profit’ today, I really like his writing style and reasoning, albeit having been pretty sceptical at the beginning. We will see 🙂
Take care!
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Aye I also have been skeptical but everything I’ve read so far from Garret and around the web is rhyming with what I know and experienced so far. Gotta be your own guru these days though and stay woke. Plus each individual environment is different. There’s the honest practitioners for better or worse, trying their best and then there’s the “market forces” capitalists/fascists screwing the planet and everyone for their own ends. And the other half of the issue is having the discipline and willpower to do the right things to fix yourself. My curry addiction will probably be the death of me.
Anyways some of what Garret is saying flies in the face of the Paleo dieters and their recommendations. I first started off with the Paleo diet a few years ago and it got me about more than halfway to fixing my IBS issues. But my own experiments with bread over the years has shown it’s the frankenwheat, GMOs, and toxins in the food/water are the real culprits. Is it ‘wheat belly’ as they say, or is it a glyphosate inflamed belly? My conspiracy-addled mind sees an attempt at mis-direction perhaps? Also I had to quit alcohol over a year ago (felt likeI was swallowing daggers sometimes) but his mention of Molybdenum depletion might be a cause of alcohol intolerance intrigued me.
They might be right (Paleos) about agriculture though, invented an age ago and making us shorter and fatter and so on. There’s an interesting documentary about a Kenyan or somesuch tribe that subsists solely on cow’s blood and milk, and a few other things they can gather and they were the healthiest looking dudes I ever seen in my life. Perfect skin and teeth, scars not withstanding. But the human body also seems to be capable to turn anything we stuff down our gullets into something it can use. It’s all about balance as the ancient healers taught.
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Thanks for the info on carotene. I’ve been juicing carrots, spinach, collard, kale and ginger. Carrots are easy to juice and a good filler. Will cut out carrots and see how it goes. Not much juice in kale. Can substitute celery for carrots. Read today that spinach is unhealthy (forget the reason), so no more juicing that.
Some say cooking food destroys nutrients; others say it adds needed heat (charge).
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Spinach is high in vit. A, so that is probably where you got that. I don’t think spinach is unhealthy, unless you are already maxxed on vit. A.
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Spinach and Kale both have vitamin A. Why are you juicing? Consider that it’s probably unnecessary to get all the nutrients you need. What you really should do is start taking zeolite powder. I’ll send you the detox document so you can see which zeolite powder to buy and what foods, etc. to try to avoid or minimize. And also what foods are OK.
In the case of vitamin A, if heating it has any effect it is to transform retinol into retinoic acid, which is an even more toxic form of it.
We seem to have this prevailing presumption that if we’re not feeling good, it’s because there’s something we’re not getting and so we need to add things to our diet. Well you can see how that predisposition will only fatten the bottom line of the governors. And I don’t think that presumption is natural. I think it is a notion that is subtly planted into us sort of subconsciously through various forms of propaganda, messaging, and indoctrination. We rarely think that the solution to our (health) problems is that we need less of something.
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Thanks so much.
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Learned today that a big part of my problem is candida. Sugar and bread had crept back into my diet. So I am now on an anti-candida diet. Combined with all the other stuff, it was doing a whammy on my gut. No, I do not have thrush or funky toenails, but I do have several other symptoms. I have gone through this before, just not during Solar Min. Anti-candida diet helped. It is a lot like a diabetes diet, though I don’t have that. . . yet.
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Also doing a parasite cleanse, since I cut up raw chicken for my cats.
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Candida was also a part of my problem, and it is not easy to get rid of, but i am now. It took several years, even if i quit all carbohydrates. I also had a lot of other parasites, but they are gone as they was zapped, and was shocked by liver cleanse, and various Hulda Clark regiments as Wormwood, Black walnut tincture, whole garlics, and also chrushed cloves mixed with jam.
I am rid of the chronic fatigue syndrome, but am still tired. I think its because I go to the gym one or two times pr day.
Candida is far more dangerous than people think. Its a fungi creating hyphens which perforates the intestinal walls, and thus let undigested food into the blood stream. The dreaded leaky gut. wrong styled proteins and sugars requires the immune system to react. The T cells have to work overtime, but as the invasion goes on, you are likely to develop allergies against the food you eat, because its poisoning you. Inflammation becomes a regular state.
A strategy against candida is to avoid what cause an acidic gut. Fungi doesn’t thrive in alkaline environment.
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I bought a box of borax after reading here and looking it up. also on the headache front theres a newish book called “eat dirt” wherein the doctor author says that he cures most of his headache patients by having them drink more plain water. he says dehydration is a cause of recurring headaches so I started drinking more plain water as I used to think putting instant coffee in water was the same as drinking plain water even knowing about the diuretic effect – duhr. at any rate I’m excited about the borax.
for candida I have seen oregano oil recommended. I’m tempted to invest in one of the tiny bottles just to see if I can tell a difference.
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Yes, I have the oregano oil. Powerful shit. But mainly candida detox is about quitting sugar, grains, potatoes, etc. I lived in a fungus house in the mid-90s and that is when I got candida. They had to actually tear the house down after I left, it was so bad. I have never had it really bad, but never been able to completely get rid of it, either. The worst symptom is white spots on the skin, that looks like sun damage but isn’t. I have mild flare-ups of that. Plus mild joint pain, lethargy, the usual. So the last thing I need right now is to add that on top of everything else. Been on the new diet for only two days and already feel better. The turning point was eating some sausage. Wrecked me. I had read about this very old man, 110 or something, who lived on waffles and sausage. I thought, fuck it, nothing else is working, I am going to buy some waffles and sausage. Turn 180 degrees into the wind. Bad idea.
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Yeast and fungal infections, especially recurrent ones, can be a sign of molybdenum deficiency. Try eating foods that are high in molybdenum, like beans, lentils and walnuts. Or you could get a molybdenum supplement.
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