[This is the thread to discuss the current corona virus psy-op.]
From Las Vegas, Pittsburg, Thousand Oaks to Russian Collusion and the Khashoggi assassination, false-flag hoaxes, conspoofacies, fake murders and other manufactured events are running non-stop around the world and around the corner.
A reader wrote in to suggest opening a comment section devoted to discussing current (faked) events. I thought it was a good idea and would provide a place where people could chime in on what’s going on in the news and even offer evidence for why they think the event was faked, hoaxed, manufactured, etc. (or why not). Have at it, unless you think it’s a waste of your time–in which case, don’t!
anna said:
Have just finished reading Miles’s last paper and have to agree with it all. It IS all about that making that quick buck and I find that sad and to be honest, totally incomprehensible. I guess to these people money equals power but who in their right minds want power over the thoughts and actions of other people? There HAS to be a genetic divergence between them and us . Money just isn’t that important………………..unless of course the slow drip drip drip of the lowering of our consciousness is their ultimate aim and we become mindless slaves forever.
I really don’t think it’s working though as more and more people are seeing through the ‘fog’ that they’ve created specifically to blind us. I can see that wherever a profit can be made THEY are there , snouts at the ready . They will create unforeseen scenarios to get their ill begotten gains and I honestly believe the NHS ( in the UK ) is one huge scam to bring gold to these people. OMG they’re sad!
For sure they ‘own’ the world and I think their ultimate aim is to ‘own ‘ our minds. For money. For power. It’s sick!
My question to any reader of this is: How embedded is the deception? Do people like Theresa May ( I use her as an example as I’m a Brit ) KNOW that she is just a tool? If so, HOW was she chosen? At what point in her sorry life was the evil finger beckoning? This is the part of the picture that remains unclear to me.
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L Kinder said:
EMBEDDED DECEPTION.
Anna, it occurred to me about 20 years ago or more that what must have been happening at least in the U.S. since at least 1900 or so is that the wealthy are able to hire anyone they want to run for political office and use them as their agents within the government. I read at that time that 1896 was the first presidential election in which big money was spent for campaigning. I imagine the rich figured all that out from the beginning of our country and had ways to hire their agents within the government all along, so maybe 1896 was just the year they decided to do it more above board out in the open. Or maybe the wealthy had divided into factions and competed a little with each other. If the wealthy are prevented by law from financing politicians, I imagine they can still get around it via secret organizations, like the Masons and many other similar groups of Jackasses. It would also be easy for many wealthy people to pretend not to be wealthy and run for office or get appointed to office. Since their Jackass buddies control most of the media and the government, it’s surely easy for them to cover for each other. And there seems to be abundant evidence that they’ve long done that almost everywhere.
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5am said:
Theresa May is jewish as is her husband. She is Theresa Mary Brasier. Theresa’s father is Rev Hubert Brasier and her mother is Zaidee Mary Brasier. Her husband is Philip John May (Banker). Philip’s father is Robert John May and his mother is Joy May (née Miller). Both of their mothers are Jewish. She only got a job to front. She knows what she is required to do … for the benefit of their race and her own.
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5am said:
I also need to add that Jewish Andrea Jacqueline Leadsom’s (née Salmon – read Salomon) comment that childless Theresa couldn’t be a good Prime Minister which led to her withdrawal from the contest to succeed Cameron (Jew) was manufactured. They gave us two jewish options so it wouldn’t really matter which one of the two won the contest. Similarly, when Zac Goldsmith and Sadiq Khan (read Kohen) ran for London Mayor in 2016 it didn’t really matter which of the two would win.
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5am said:
To finally answer your question, Anna, perhaps Theresa was chosen to front because she appeared tough, woman without children and all that, which people needed after the tepid boy Cameron. On the other hand, Kohen was strategically chosen to take the London Mayor seat to please and strengthen Muslims and their position in the UK. Islamisation of Europe is well under way and the top priority. See Kalergi plan for more details.
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ihatestarwars said:
Theresa May was nicknamed ‘Submarine’ because she used to go missing when important issues were being discussed.
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5am said:
London Mayor Sadiq Aman Khan may be related to Nuzzeer Begum Khan whose name came up in Miles’ Titanic paper. You will remember that Nuzzeer’s son Lt. General Sir Alexander Cobbe married the daughter of the first Baronet Bowen of the Argentinian Great South Railway.
Nuzzeer Begum Khan married Colonel Thomas Alexander Cobbe of the Newbridge House Cobbes from the English peerage. Her married name became Cobbe. Hmm. Of Nuzzeer we are only told she is the daughter of Azeeze Khan from Kashmir, India, but her father’s name is not given. We are looking at another virgin birth here, conceived in the womb of her mother Azeeze and without the agency of a human father I suppose.
Anyway, Cobbes’ family motto is ‘In Sanguine Vita’ which translates to something like ‘life in the blood’. Their coat of arms bears heraldic Phoenix that sits on top of the crown! Wiki tells us it is a Pelican but judge for yourselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobbe_family
These Cobbes are found in the Royal Navy, British Army, INDIAN ARMY … Names like General Sir Alexander Stanhope Cobbe come up. Others include Frances Power Cobbe, activist, women’s suffrage campaigner, lesbian … They were involved in the carving of British Indian Empire and responsible for creation of a separate nation-states, secular India for Hindus and Sikhs and Islamic Pakistan for the Muslims of British India. More than million people died as a result.
We are told Sadiq Khan’s parents, mother Sehrun Khan and father Amanullah Khan, Muslim Indians, with Sadiq’s grandparents allegedly fled the horrors and end up in Pakistan. Evening Standard tells us they had it fairly easy due to their young age but their parents not so. Both sets of his grandparents led a comfortable middle-class lives in and around Lucknow in Uttar Pradesh before they left India. Apparently, they settled in Karachi. I have not found the direct link between Sadiq and Nuzzeer yet, but I doubt he would be a London Mayor today if there’s not some hidden connection between this Khans and the English peerage.
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cancelled said:
Can you supply references for Theresa May’s Jewish background?
Wikipedia gives her background via her vicar father’s role as High Church (Anglo Catholic) ; and indicates she was educated at a Roman Catholic convent school.
Where did you find the mother’s background info?
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DF said:
My opinion : May is as much a Christian as her name sake .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se_of_Lisieux
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lewis reid said:
http://ethnicelebs.com/theresa-may
Interesting surnames – Payne, Welland (fudge on Weiland), Goodman, etc
May’s mam was named Zaidee Barnes (similar nose) and at geni the family tree is managed by a Rhodes, her Great great…. grandpappy is managed by a Erica Howton (Houghton).
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anna said:
Just a quick observation:
I lived in a beautiful part of Italy a few years back and the architecture was so wonderful and uplifting. Just walking through the town was a fantastic experience. One night some local yobs defaced it all with graffiti…………………senseless, mindless idiots. The beauty really went out of that place whilst that graffiti was allowed to remain.
MY point: Beauty IS VITAL for the soul.
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Wayne G. said:
Like this “best of” concept, since apparently missing a few gems from amongst the Miles of treasures. Took a break from science class and read Josh’s The Bogus Business Plot the other night. It’s okay.… I’m fine now.… Damage to the house, though massive, is nonetheless, repairable. No animals or humans were injured, though a very, very, small percent of the latter is now on a special “to do” list. On the plus side, there is plenty of fuel for the fireplace.
Have handled all this knowledge very well, at least until very recently. Not sure why the change, though a severe case of cabin fever isn’t helping. Think the tipping point was Ancient Spooks, when reality, hit hard. Very. Hard. A bit difficult to fathom the deception going back so far and for so damn long.…
Guess this is what makes us “civilized,” huh?
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Jared Magneson said:
Hang in there, Pops. There’s also Light in this world! And there’s a lot of really good, uplifting stuff to be found in these papers as well. I find Miles’ message one of hope, not a harbinger of horror. If someone like me can awaken, perhaps many others can as well, and perhaps some shift can be achieved.
♪…Look inside you can find… Where the Power lies,
And ride! by the star-light and know why…
You could never relate to the world; you could never rely!
You can sever the state from the land, but not the day from the night…
Not the sound from the sight…♫
– John Henry
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Russell Taylor said:
Indeed. There are some very interesting lyrics from that writer.
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Wayne G. said:
“Pops?” LOL.
That light thing of which you speak, has illuminated another “new” year and with it, yet another rollover in that category: age. Can’t be with people my own age cause they think I’m looney tunes and…they bore me to vapor. Younger women aren’t interested since I don’t drive a Ferrari. I could…if it had a manual transmission and at least six-speeds. Haven’t been around my family for more than 40-plus years and after three years back, now remember why.
Lost it on that paper. Literally had to walk away three times before finishing. Realize that it’s just another face slapping and certainly the face is seasonally red as is, but this one just left me looking for copious quantities of plastics. Used to think that this was/is a young persons’ fight. Now that’s changed.
So, my scientific son the real quandary with this energy dilemma is the storage and transport consideration, no?
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Jared Magneson said:
I feel you on having to walk away sometimes, and go back to a paper when the stomach or mind has settled. Just wait until you get to Vexman’s Thoughts. Or rather, literally just wait to go there? One of his series is particularly damning, and details one of the most horrifying acts of humanity of all time. But it’s worth reading because it “keeps it real”, as in we know a great many of the events in history are faked, but the atrocities in many cases are very, very real. Vexman’s task to discern between the two is a noble cause and I admire him for powering through the darkness nobody else will do.
As for light and energy, Miles has revolutionized the topic and so we’re effectively trying to work with it from scratch, in some ways. While a lot of existing tech can be updated and upgraded (such as photon-based transistors for computers instead of electron-based transistors), his work means other areas can be completely reworked from the ground up. Even aircraft can be redesigned knowing that lift is a function of charge, not “angle of attack” or anything. That’s just one example.
For me, his charge theory is especially awesome for botany and horticulture. He’s only done a little work on that but it was very well-done and hopefully will be very beneficial to growing plants. I’m not quite ready to begin my tests in this area, it costs a bit of money and requires more growing space than I have currently, but perhaps this will be the year! I have high hopes.
So keep that in mind too, when you get down – there’s also hope involved in these matters! Truth can be sorrowful but it can also be magnificent. If you get too down, read a physics paper to break up the pain. They’re usually pretty (ahem) LIGHT-hearted, and his sense of humor is great too.
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Josh said:
Hope you read part 2 of the bogus business plot, too.
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Wayne G. said:
Did read part two but apparently missed part one. Will read part two again. Very well written, researched and presented. Thank you.
It’s more frustration than anything else. More along the lines of what @Talks-to-Cats alluded to; another trophy on the wall. Kinda at that point where the trophy is no longer important, since there mightn’t be enough walls to display them all; Trump’s not withstanding.
Some actual heads, wall-mounted, seemingly has some real usefulness, though definitely not as much as a genuine masters’ painting. The only real pleasure felt is that they, like all of us, leave here with exactly what they came here with…nothing.
It’s that in-between state that needs some serious adjustment.
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Josh said:
Thanks, Wayne, but I think you will get more out of reading part 1 instead of re-reading part 2.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
@Anna:
“…Money just isn’t that important…”
The money is not just important, it is absolutely vital to keep the Global Shoah on the road. I think the vast amounts of the money made by the banksters and tycoons is used just to keep the Globe Theatre running efficiently, and that capitalism was invented long ago to let the hidden owners of the world achieve their goal – to keep their flock safe from themselves. Yes, I suspect those in charge have a huge ‘god complex’.
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Jared Magneson said:
The money is only important as a currency of control. Originally, food was the control. That’s what separated our monoculture from all the other ones before or during its birth – the food was kept under lock and key by one group, and another group grew, hunted, and harvested it. That is how I believe the Masters came to be.
Money is simply food-currency at its core. Sure, shelter and whatnot are also important and money is used for those as well, but you can’t eat money and you can’t eat shelter. Both are irrelevant without food and water. I think it’s an important distinction because it helps show the history of the power scheme – from a time before money, before even the Phoneicians or Egyptians. Once they controlled the food, they controlled the people.
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Russell Taylor said:
“Money is simply food-currency at its core.”
Very true!
Money used to have some actual value hundreds of years ago being silver or gold coin but today, our coin has hardly any value at all and the notes are simply IOU’s.
If we are heading into another cooling period with food shortages, then food will become currency again. like it did before; maybe not in New York but across the world in much poorer places.
Starvation is a powerful tool.
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Jared Magneson said:
Food shortages would be mitigated entirely if the food weren’t under lock and key. Self-sufficiency seems to me like the best way to live, or the best thing to strive for.
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Russell Taylor said:
People used to grow their own stuff up until the 1980’s but gardens have shrunk in the UK to ridiculous proportions. A large percentage of new property is in the form of apartments/flats, so no garden at all.
The only choice left is an allotment but they are extremely expensive to rent from the local council these days. To the average household, the allotment veg’ will end up costing more than bought veg’. When you take into account losses from pests and theft, plus the added costs of fertiliser, wind protection, nets/netting, cold frames.
50 years ago loads of people had allotments but not many working class folk can afford them any longer.
We are going to be getting a polytunnel to extend our growing season. A brilliant compromise between crossing ones fingers and a greenhouse.
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Jared Magneson said:
Every time you see a grass lawn, you’re seeing a chunk of reality that has been destroyed in favor of a shitty aesthetic. Lawns aren’t pretty at all, and they serve no purpose. It’s only slightly better than covering the Earth in concrete, in my opinion.
And there are huge swaths of man-made lawn in both our nations. I watch a lot of documentaries and all those lords in your nation with their huge amounts of land could easily be used for natural foods. It’s no different here.
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anna said:
@ Russell Taylor
You actually don’t need that much room to grow veggies and fruit. I have a medium sized garden and have raspberries, strawberries, blackberries, blackcurrants, blueberries, apples and plums and even hazelnuts a plenty. More than enough to see us through the summer into early winter . I do freeze a lot but to be quite honest I’m pretty sure their potency is lost the minute they’re picked. I generally stroll through the garden during the summer picking fruit and immediately eating it rather than putting them into pies and jams etc. I believe I maximise their goodness this way. Herbs and basic salad stuffs are easy to grow as well and don’t take up much space. You really don’t need fertilisers, pest deterrent or fancy growing paraphernalia for other people to admire.
The real problem of self sustenance is with dairy and meat/fish. I’m far from convinced that we can survive healthily without them……………………………..much as vegans try and convince us. Speaking of which , have you noticed how veganism is taking over the airwaves and MSM lately? That , if nothing else convinces me that our bodies need dairy and meat/fish to be truly healthy.
If we have the wonderful summer we had last year it’s going to be a bumper crop. Can’t wait. I’m pretty pathetic inasmuch I get a huge kick out of watching, nurturing and eating my own produce. Yep, I know, I”m sad!
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Jared Magneson said:
I don’t find it sad or pathetic in any way, Anna! It’s a distinct joy, nurturing life and feeding upon it. Everything devours to survive, from the lowly electron on up to the galaxies themselves. Few things give me more joy than my flowers, though I don’t eat them, but my food crops are also quite wonderful!
Yes, freezing or canning fresh fruits and vegetables destroys the enzymes, but there is still nutrition there. Just, not enzymes. Fresh is best. But fresh doesn’t last through the winter, so curing, drying, freezing, etc. is a great way to stretch things out. My garden is tiny but it’s worth doing and I can’t imagine life without it. It keeps me sane, nearly.
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cancelled said:
@Jared
I think your point about lawns is an extremely important one. It’s a real sore spot with me.
Here in Florida, a perfect, manicured lawn is almost mandatory! That is a disgrace, because here a perfect lawn requires constant pesticides. So not only is it a waste of useful ground, but it’s an environmental hazard for pets, soil microorganisms, wildlife, water, insects, etcetera. I had to stop walking my dog because of the chemicals. Here again, we find the chemical industry onto another cash cow.
The stupidity and hypocrisy of this practice boggles the mind. Sustainability? This is rampant environmental stress. Ordained from above. And you cannot fight it, in most places: the ignorant, brainwashed, unthinking neighbors will be after you — most Florida homes are in communities governed by Homeowners Associations that set down rules, and the look of one’s lawn is primary on the list. So every week or so, what I call the buzzsaws invade the streets, cutting and edging, followed by the pest patrols, killing everything except grass, spreading herbicides and pesticides to keep everything clipped. Not just grass, but bushes and shrubs — never mind that those structures bear small, sometimes undetectable fruits and berries and flowers that nourish small wildlife such as birds and squirrels, as well as bees and insects. But they just indiscriminately lop them off. The ignorance is a tragedy for wildlife.
If a weed erupts through a crack in your driveway, they’re after you. You have to get permission to landscape, with approval from the architectural committee, submitting plans. Your yard is not your own. If you plant something they don’t like, you must remove it. If you don’t, they remove it and bill you for it. If you don’t pay the bill they put a lien on your property and make your life miserable.
The HOA’s are actually governed by property management companies that are tied to corporations– who controls them is deliberately unclear. And I’m talking about single family homes owned by people — people who pay for the home, pay taxes on it, maintain it, insure it, but who have no real authority over it. I got so disgusted, I sold and now rent. Let somebody else foot all those bills for the privilege of property “ownership” where your yard is not your own. Yes, there are some non HOA areas, few and far between but, astonishingly, most people opt for the perfect lawn community because they like the “look” of it. Their ignorance depresses me.
I often wonder where the practice of the manicured lawn came from, and I think it’s the middle class imitating the way the aristocracy lived, on a small scale. But any ground one has access to, would be better used for growing fruit and nut trees, edible stuff, and even chickens for eggs. There would be hardly any rubbish for landfills — it would go into a compost heap, except for plastics and a few other things. If such practices were the norm, instead of useless and toxic lawns, we and our ecological environment would be living in harmony and balance.
I so lament the fact we have destructive, greedy, hypocritical idiots running the world. Sustainability and the perfect lawn constitute an oxymoron.
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Jared Magneson said:
Two years ago, I would have said that lawns were just that – a mimicry of us smallfolk towards the rich people who actually own land. But now? No. It is (to me) clearly an act of control handed down from our controllers. As we’ve discussed, they control us chiefly through the food & water supply, and poison us with it as well. We have to earn enough money to BUY food, on top of earning enough to pay rent be it a lease or a mortgage.
Enforced lawns aren’t exactly the norm but many, many places do have HOAs and that’s just insane to me. It’s not just an act of gentrification but these HOAs are controlled from the top (as you said) and the decree is essentially, “Do NOT let them grow food.” Concrete is bad enough, but lawns and poisons and pesticides and herbicides? Leaking into the groundwater everywhere? Running down the concrete and into drains to streams… It’s just horrible. So much loss, and it’s all just for profit.
These are among the greatest evils to me – the destruction of all life, not just human life. They care not.
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mswinkle said:
@cancelled
I was thinking of moving to Florida, live in New York, but you make it sound awful. I think most of us just want to be left alone, without having to live in the middle of nowhere off the grid. Seems impossible
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L Kinder said:
CRYPTO SCHEME?
I post links to various kinds of news articles each week on a couple forums and I just came across this one (I’ve been familiar with the case for a couple weeks, but I hadn’t read details till now).
Censoring Sargon etc.
https://www.sott.net/article/404172-The-Sargon-Saga-NPCs-Censorship-And-How-The-Intellectual-Dark-Web-Fought-Back
After reading part of this article, I infer that the reason Sargon and others have been deplatformed by Patreon etc is to give the establishment an excuse to promote cryptocurrency by starting an alternative online payment system to Patreon etc that uses cryptocurrency and maybe blockchain tech. Jordan Peterson, a Zionist, and another “content creator” on Youtube, are being fronted as the ones who are organizing setting up this system, but my guess is that it’s really the bankers & co. who are doing this. I think cryptocurrency is desired by them as a way to help bring about a cashless society so regular people won’t be able to trade anything without going through middleman payment systems etc.
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Cross said:
From ‘The Globalist One World Currency will look a lot like Bitcoin’ by Brandon Smith:
“This week [27th July 2017] the International Monetary Fund shocked some economic analysts with an announcement that America was “no longer first in the world” as a major economic growth engine… the IMF is once again taking the lead on perpetuating the image of a failing U.S., just as they often push for the concept of a single global currency system to replace the dollar as the world reserve.”
“… the article Get Ready For The Phoenix published in the Rothschild controlled magazine The Economist in 1988… announced the beginning of a new global currency mechanism using the SDR [Special Drawing Rights, a synthetic paper currency issued by the IMF] as a bridge starting in 2018”
“The proclamations of The Economist of a world currency launch by 2018 are happening today, right on schedule, right in front of us. The blockchain is going to “change the world;” this has been excitedly announced by the very same banking elites the blockchain was supposedly engineered to defeat. When the next reserve currency system is established using the SDR basket as a foundation, I have no doubt it will be digital and based on the same exact tech that today’s activists wrongly assume will set them free.”
“The IMF cares only about centralizing everything, from currency to trade to governance. If the sacrifice of the old world system (the U.S. dollar) is required to create their new world system, then that is what they will do. If you have read my article ‘The Federal Reserve Is A Saboteur — And The “Experts” Are Oblivious’, then you understand that the Fed is also perfectly on board with this plan for a global reset. ”
Source: http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3239-the-globalist-one-world-currency-will-look-a-lot-like-bitcoin
‘Get Ready for the Phoenix’, huh? That’s the name the Economist gave to this one world currency. Phoenix. Pretty spooky.
I’ve done a bit of reading when it comes to the various economic schools of thought. For some time I was partial to the ideas of Ron Paul and the Austrians. I still believe that there are some nice sentiments that come from them… but they and every other school of economic thought seem to be paid cover for the Money Power that rules the world.
Bitcoin is no different to the Austrians and libertarians. It charms you with sentiments of freedom and decentralisation, but it’s really a Trojan horse. I agree that the Patreon incident seems to be a part of the game. It’s happening with YT too, with new ‘decentralised alternative’ platforms arising like minds (recently pushed by Stefan Molyneux) and BitChute (pushed by James Corbett).
PS if any one’s interested in the arguments against the Austrians and other economics, I recently came across this (long) thread: https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/08/03/libertarianism-is-dying-truthers-unite/
I’m suspicious of the OP, Migchels, because he apparently associates with Henry Makow. However, there is some stimulating discussion in the comments about the nature of money, usury and the Money Power elite. I particularly like the contributions of commenters REN and Larry.
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nada0101 said:
I think Brandon Smith is on the money when it comes to being skeptical about all world governments, i.e. he knows it is kabuki. But I also suspect he’d run a mile if you mentioned the (((Phoenicians))). In that respect he reminds me of James(?) Corbett who also talks sense about many issues then disappears into a vast nebulae of nothingness when it comes to identifying the culprits. Again, any mention of the ancient Merchant Bankers and he’d probably transform from a “guru” into his real life role as a gatekeeper.
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nada0101 said:
“‘Get Ready for the Phoenix’, huh? That’s the name the Economist gave to this one world currency. Phoenix. Pretty spooky.”
I forgot to congratulate on spotting this one. Yeh, pretty bleedin’ obvious now that you point it out. Doh!
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Gerry said:
Greece had a currency called “Phoenix” for a very short time in the 1830s, minted with presses from the Knights Hospitaller. The Phoenix currency was extremely short-lived and looks like they just wanted to make a quick buck by awarding themselves minting contracts. I’d expect nothing else from any proposed “world currency”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phoenix_(currency)&oldid=872879738#Minting_the_phoenix
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Runar said:
I also read everything at Migchels site realcurrencies.wordpress.com
and i have to say i learnt a lot on the basic mechanisms of economy. But as went back to look up his site later, i noticed i did not agree so much, it just had me think a lot.
Recommended. The archives are the good start, he put down activity level as he started his own currency.
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Russell Taylor said:
While we are all becoming obsessed with Bitcoin and the financial markets and flippin Brexit, why not take a moment to reflect on some real truth, something very important that you may not have been aware of.
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L Kinder said:
BRANDON SMITH.
He’s a prepper, I think, and he is connected with Oathkeepers. I eventually noticed that Oathkeepers seemed to include several Mormons, so I suspected that they were controlled by Mormons. Ex-sheriff Richard Mack once said his wife’s parents were Mormons (and Birchers), so I suspected that he became one as well. Then I learned that a local Oathkeeper was a Mormon and that’s what raised my suspicion. Mormonism is a very abusive religion IMO and is based on numerous lies about how it started and false claims about its leaders etc. I think its leaders want to take control of the U.S. government by pretending to be patriotic supporters of the Constitution.
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Jared Magneson said:
I missed Miles’ recent update on the Caesium transport paper until just now, somehow, so I’m bringing it up again here in case others missed it:
Click to access caes.pdf
Scroll down to page 12 if you’ve read it before. His addendum is just devastating, as usual. And his constant pressure to be MORE critical can’t be stressed enough. So I thank each of you here that has pushed me to do just that, even if we ended up disagreeing – you’re doing the right thing, so keep at it!
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cancelled said:
@MsWinkle
It’s the HOA’s that are anathema here in Florida. Gated communities are ubiquitous and very controlling. They dictate the color of your house and drapery, your type of vehicle, your landscaping, when contractors can visit, etc. People drive around in golf carts, spying.
Like Jared said, most everyplace is controlled one way or another. The more self sufficient you are, the more freedom you can have over your domain. The handyman lives on acres in the boonies, just over the Georgia border; he’s got his own generator, well water, food from wildlife and garden; built his own house in a clearing in the woods. Nobody bothers him. (He’s my kind of man!) But, you see, he knows how to do stuff. I guess he slipped through the dumbing down cracks.
It depends on how you want to live. And your budget. If you want wild, in the city, that’s a challenge. But it’s doable. I see it all the time — it’s just the exception because most people want the manicured look. I have a cousin in nearby Neptune Beach, a lovely little city, where you can have two chickens in your yard. But, not a cow. And she’s got space galore for growing food and trees. And there’s no HOA of any sort there. Yet, if necessary, she can walk to the shops, or the beach. The best of both worlds, imo.
I’ve lived in south, northeast, and north central Florida. Let me know if you want info. The wealthier an area, the more controlled it is. So forget Palm Beach County and southward: tightly controlled. If it weren’t for family, I’d move near Gainesville. (I’m in snooty Ponte Vedra — tightly controlled: not a weed in sight.) The areas around Gainesville are great growing areas for food and livestock — I drive there to buy; and the people are real, down to earth, and awake. Lots of “wild but near a city” unspoiled options.
Feel free to pick my brain about Florida.
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dennisjoyleary said:
I’m new here but don’t cut me slack. This current events thread is pretty general in scope, so is probably more tolerant of “out of left field” comments. I like the logo/motto/mission statement of “cutting through the fog.” I’ve been trying to do that all my 79 years of life. Cutting through the fog is a cousin of cutting to the chase, so here goes.
I’ll start with one of my more dense foggy pet peeves. How people as smart as Miles cannot see that keeping pets is a fog of the first order is incredible to me. What right do humans have to make pets of a weaker species? How can humans not see that what we do to others will come back to haunt us? This pet-fog is one of the main mechanical, physical, photon-bumping, logical causes of our being enslaved as pets ourselves. I’ve never heard a rational argument for the institution of pethood that can hold a drop of water.
If we are serious about cutting through the fog, questioning the practice of enslaving free animals as pets is essential to our own freedom from such fog-bound human neurosis. I’d love to hear a rational explanation to justify pets but I doubt I will. All I have gotten so far are rationalizations from minds already conditioned by a Master-Pet class system. I hope cutting through the fog does not prove to be cuddling with the fog, or marginalization of the issue as misdirection from misdirectors themselves.
Thanks and best regards from the lighthouse.
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Jared Magneson said:
Not to be condescending and rude, but we have far, far bigger fish to fry than the healthy symbiosis of friendly animals here. If you want to be upset about people keeping pets, that’s fine of course, just I can’t see how it even relates to any of these topics in any way.
The Powers That Be do not keep us as pets. They keep us as livestock. If you don’t know the difference between pets and livestock, that’s pretty much your own self-generated fog.
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DF said:
When it comes to dogs , the benefits for both parties is obvious , when you add in the thousands of years of history of the beneficial relationship , the idea of now banning the practice is impractical .
Best to reduce the abuse and suffering .
Many humans suffering from being alone and could gain much from a pet .
The real problems , as with most things , are when it is profit driven .
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lewis reid said:
I’ve had numerous dogs and cats as pets and living beside neighbouring fields, they were free to roam afar, but they always came back. That says a lot in my book.
Listening to Alice in Chains ‘Dirt’ album today, it suddenly struck me that the singers of the leading grunge bands are all ‘dead’ ~ Cobain, Cornell, Staley, and Weiland, only Vedder still singing. What are the odds on that? Pre-Miles, I wouldn’t have doubted them….
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Jared Magneson said:
Of them all, only Staley is worth a shit. There was a big social media rumor last month about Eddie Vedder dying; sadly, this wasn’t true, and the talentless spook loser is still breathing.
I feel the same about their music. Alice in Chains exhibits great talent in their original albums and pretty damn fine songwriting; the topics on Dirt and anything about drugs isn’t exactly my favorite, so I generally skip those songs, but Staley knew how to sing. STP had like three good songs, none of which were ever on the radio. But those other bands… Just garbage, in my opinion. Only nostalgia keeps them popular; there was no skill or talent there to behold.
Of them all, only Layne Staley stands out to me as probably NOT a spook. But he’s probably a StaNley actually and so that might explain his junky-music drug project as well.
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lewis reid said:
‘Dirt’ is very early Black Sabbathesque in places, which is why I like it.
A quick look on ethnicelebs for Staley threw up Millers, Blairs, Webbs……
http://ethnicelebs.com/layne-staley
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Jared Magneson said:
‘Chains wrote and produced a lot of good music in those early years, from Facelift to Dirt, Sap, and Jar of Flies. I think Staley is very genuine. I think he likely did die from an overdose, as opposed to Whitney or Michael Jackson or Jim Morrison. His alleged death was well, well past their prime and he didn’t need a public exit to boost sales – anyone with an ear for music knows that Alice in Chains is far better than their media-induce genre accomplices. It’s the kind of stuff you’d play in a bar or tavern, and they did, and often up here. None of those other grunge bands ever sounded good in a live setting, period. Their songs were much like the Beatle’s songs – garbage in form and design. ‘Chains has a few exceptions that I don’t find compelling but much of their writing (Jerry Cantrell’s work) was pretty good for a “bunch of junkies”, if you ask me. I believe Cantrell is still alive. He wasn’t really a junky at all, only their singer was.
And ‘Chains knew how to write decent fucking music, and that’s what they gave us. They stand out even today, not as excellent musicians (to me) but as examples of coherent chord structure, song structure, and emotion. You can feel his pain – without making it your own, necessarily. I don’t feel a damn thing when I listen to Soundgarden or Mudhoney or Nirvana or STP (except those few songs) and never did. They didn’t know how to tap into reality because they weren’t real themselves.
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Russell Taylor said:
Do you like any gaming music?
I love Bastion Original Soundtrack by Darren Korb.
Here’s a taste if you are not familiar.
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L Kinder said:
SWASTIKA = PEACE.
I came across a movement or something that seeks to rehabilitate the swastika at http://www.proswastika.org/other-sites claiming correctly I think that it was long regarded as a symbol of good luck, peace and harmony. That was before the Zionist-controlled media equated it with supposed Nazi atrocities. (Before I discovered Miles’ info on Hitler I had found that the Nazis apparently were innocent of most of the claims against them. I posted evidence for this at https://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=28418.msg298878#msg298878 ). Carl Sagan found that the swastika may have originated from the appearance of comets that occasionally came close to Earth and had jets shooting out while also spinning. A Thunderbolts writer claimed that it originated from the appearance of the “polar configuration” in ancient times, i.e. the stable polar location of Saturn, Venus and Mars, in the ancient sky, where electrical effects gave the appearance of 3-, 4- and 5-legged swastikas successively. He also regarded the planetary configuration as the source of ancient myths, including those about the swastika. See http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/search.cgi?zoom_query=swastika&zoom_per_page=25&zoom_and=1&zoom_cat%5B%5D=-1
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dennisjoyleary said:
I started a conversation about one of my pet peeves, namely the institution of pethood. I received three replies plus one who liked one of the comments. I do enjoy lively discussion, particularly one that clears up my fog. Allow me to continue a tete-a-tete with one commenter at a time.
“Not to be condescending and rude, but we have far, far bigger fish to fry than the healthy symbiosis of friendly animals here.”
He does not say who the bigger fish are. I’d guess they are the elite governors that Miles talks about. How would we fry them without jumping into the pan with them? I suppose we’d have to catch them first without hooking ourselves. I think we (Miles, Josh and us, etc) are already doing that by exposing their lies and machinations. Good as this is, it exposes us to getting into the pan with them by associative contamination. Also, it does not really seem to be working; since the world is getting worse. Plus, it is giving them attention and playing their game on their field, exactly what they want.
If something is not working, it stands to reason that we try doing something else, as a minimum beginning. I am proposing that there are several elephants in the room that we are ignoring as possible solutions. One of bigger elephants is the institution of pethood, IMO; to use a Mathisian commonly used preface. I am making that proposition which of course remains to be proved.
If you want to know how huge that elephant is, do a simple search: like how many pets there are worldwide. It’s rather astounding to anyone not caught in the pethood fog. The effects of those numbers are mind boggling.
Speaking of assuming what remains to be proved, the comment takes for granted that the relationship between pets and humans is a “healthy symbiosis,” The comment also assumes the animals are friendly, which is belied by the number of pet bites upon humans; and that after unfriendly pets have been culled and put down.
One more friendly observation before I go back to where I was before. Does anyone really think the masters are not aware of the effects pets have in dumbing down humans? If there are any such, I would suggest they check their fog-o-meter. Think of all the ads portraying pets as cute and cuddly, and of course man’s best friend. Of course the programmers couldn’t be lying about this, or making money off it, now could they? This couldn’t possibly be part of their obfuscation, or shall we say obfogcation long-standing pethood program, could it?
Thanks for your fog-dispelling comments. To be continued. Cheers from the lighthouse!
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Jared Magneson said:
You could have just replied to your original comment and kept the conversation going.
dennisjoyleary said: “Good as this is, it exposes us to getting into the pan with them by associative contamination. Also, it does not really seem to be working; since the world is getting worse. Plus, it is giving them attention and playing their game on their field, exactly what they want.”
How does exposing the lies and atrocities of another person expose one to “getting into the pan with them” in any way? We’re not committing the atrocities. Your statement is both illogical and false.
How is this exposure not working? Either something is exposed or its not. In this case, a great many things are being exposed by our writer-pals. The world isn’t getting worse as a result of this expose’, it’s getting better for us since we are learning more and more what happened and who caused it.
How is this exposure “playing their game on their field” in any way? Another false, irrational, and illogical statement.
You’re full of shit. You’re misdirecting away from the important topics to a complete fiction you contrived or jumped into. Sure, some pet owners are abusive, but the vast majority are not. It’s hardly a “pet conspiracy” at all. The entire topic is bullshit in the context of “Cutting Through the Fog”.
You reek of Langley.
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nada0101 said:
“How does exposing the lies and atrocities of another person expose one to “getting into the pan with them” in any way?”
Fair point. I think this same poster accused me of promoting or associating him with Brian Greene, whereas I was attempting the exact opposite. I was highlighting misdirection by Greene on the Spinning Universe, and that perhaps an untangling of Greene’s bulls**t might show what must not be shown. Something like that.
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nada0101 said:
Dennisjoyleary, what do you think of cats?
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DF said:
“… Also, it does not really seem to be working; since the world is getting worse. Plus, it is giving them attention and playing their game on their field, exactly what they want.”
Miles is certainly not playing a game , he is skewering Elite Dip-shits who would prefer to remain in the shadows , oh it is working , shining the light of truth on these privileged social parasites .
If you’re not a Shill or a troll , start over and really reading Miles papers .
Are you just flying of the edge because you are opposed to Miles raising and selling kittens that are brought into the world in the loving way all pets should be ?
Yes there is a ” people problem ” ( nicely stated Jared ) about animals and pets in our world , but to add Mile’s name to the problem list is childish , you did state you were in you seventies ? well grow-up.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6483615/Hundreds-cats-saved-illegal-slaughterhouse-China.html
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nada0101 said:
“Elite Dip-shits”
Methinks we have our first Phrase of the Year!
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dennisjoyleary said:
Thanks for the recent comments to my introduction of pethood as a problem. I love a lively conversation. Time permitting, I plan to go through the comments chronologically and systematically; so I won’t get to the latest comments until I have considered the earlier ones. There is much to mull over and savor in a learn as I go procedure.
For now I want to respond to a format matter. I was asked why I do not simply reply to my own original comment. The reason is that if there are several replies, the column of text gets narrower and narrower until it is one letter wide; in other words, the system cannot bear the load. Therefore, I prefer to start anew at the extreme left margin after speaking briefly to the latest conversation on the topic within a thread.
Got to run. Don’t fret the lighthouse blues; it will all be good news as the fog lifts. Rest assured that I am no troll, bot, agent or enemy. Peace from our lighthouse of dreams.
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Philip Cox said:
Please keep running. Don’t stop or look back.
If you keep intending to misdirect the conversation into pethood as an issue you’ll be talking to yourself here.
“Rest assured that I am no troll, bot, agent or enemy.”
But you might be crazy if you think people having pets is a real issue.
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L Kinder said:
HOW TO OVERCOME TYRANNY?
_If our goal is to overcome all of the tyranny we’ve discovered and haven’t yet discovered, what’s a good plan to do that?
_Since the JTB (jackasses that be) seem likely to resist all such efforts greatly, I expect we’ll need to find ways to overcome that resistance too.
_Improving collaboration seems to be a requirement. Right?
_I noticed that Vexman wants his site to be a hub for collaboration, so maybe he has similar interest.
_Teaching classes seems like a promising route. I’d like to teach True History and True Science to help wake up the masses. I just started a tentative forum at http://futureschool.boards.net . People can register there, but it’s not necessary, since it allows guests to post, I believe, although registering may have some benefits too.
_An additional strategy, a form of activism, is to start something like “Local Improvement Network” chapters worldwide to promote Community Rights and Individual and Local Sovereignty, similar to what CELDF has been doing for a number of years at http://CELDF.org , by helping communities draft and pass “populist” ordinances.
_Any movement needs young people in order to stay “sustainable” and I think the Classes and the Network should attract them. How many members here are under 30? I imagine home-schooled kids would be most open to True History and True Science.
_COMMENTS? Collaboration Volunteers?
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Russell Taylor said:
“An additional strategy, a form of activism,”
I’m not sure that has ever been truly done before.
As Miles has outed just about every activism event throughout history as faked and all part of societal change and control by the families, I’m not sure that enough real people could be motivated to carry this out, or that it would even be practicable.
Any form of real activism would cause TPTB to infiltrate the activists party and destroy it from within. Not to mention manufacturing a controlled opposition to the activism as happened with the hippy movement and the Vietnam War.
One of my favourite scenes from the James Bond film ‘Quantum of Solace’:
Mr. White – “You really don’t know anything about us, do you? It’s so amusing, because we are on the other side, thinking ‘Oh, the MI6, the CIA, they’re watching over our shoulders, they’re listening to our conversations.’ And the truth is, you don’t even know we exist!”
M – “We do now, Mr White, and we’re quick learners.”
Mr. White – “Oh, really? Well, then, the first thing you should know about us is that we have people everywhere.”
Cue gun shots, blood, screaming, running, terror etc!
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Russell Taylor said:
“Any movement needs young people in order to stay “sustainable”…”
But the vast majority of young people are severely undereducated, have limited social skills, cannot even cross an almost empty road without having to press a button so a machine can tell them when it’s safe to cross. And you think that these youngsters will be capable of playing a part in a future rebellion?
God help us!
TPTB have designed society to be this way, and whilst you may teach your own children to buck the trend and how to cross a road safely, this will not help the couldn’t care less majority, who will listen to the truth, then go back to pressing buttons as the easy option….
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L Kinder said:
OVERCOME TYRANNY.
Russell, there are no PTB, just JTB (Jackasses that be).
Many young people brainwashed in conventional schools do wake up and there are many young people who don’t get much brainwashing because they’re homeschooled or unschooled.
A Defeatist Attitude certainly isn’t going to Overcome Tyranny. I said initially that there will likely be resistance from the JTB to any effort to overcome tyranny and that we therefore need to plan to deal with the resistance too. Maybe the resistance is more than can be overcome, but do we know that in advance? Miles writes more optimistically than that, hinting that Tyranny is starting to crumble. So why do you prefer defeatism?
Miles’ and company’s writings online and this website are forms of activism. Vexman wants to collaborate. All I’m suggesting is doing these things more consciously or intentionally. People get more done when they concentrate on doing something than by just occasionally daydreaming about it. Miles has a global reach. My idea to encourage people to collaborate locally is to reinforce such a global reach. CELDF proves that local activism to improve local sovereignty is possible, at least so far. So I say why not follow examples like theirs that work?
I don’t like to just sit around and complain, so I’m trying to find ways to start online classes to help people learn True History and other truths. At my new forum http://futureschool.boards.net/ yesterday I started posting links to Miles’ site and this site. I’d like to have collaborators on that. If it doesn’t pan out, it should at least be good practice, as success usually comes after failure. So I welcome anyone to get involved there, or maybe on this site, if something like that can be done here, or maybe elsewhere online. I think we can accomplish more together than alone.
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Russell Taylor said:
I’m not defeatist or particularly pessimistic but I have learned to be cautious and observant. Everywhere I’ve seen an uprising against oppression, the oppressed always lose. Unless it’s a fake rebellion made to look like the the oppressed uprising managed to defeat a government and it’s armies. Hollywood does a great version of this. The only times that a rebellion seems to have worked, the events are proven to be faked either in part or totality. Faked assassinations too. Fake rebels, very often fighting for a fake cause. The historic record is replete with factual inaccuracies and downright fabrications of whole events. This continues today, and thanks to Miles we are now all much wiser to the extent that this is so.
Where I agree is with Miles’ ideas. That it can better work from an individuals perspective. Changing ones own lifestyle and showing big commerce where it can shove it’s longest digit. Where you spend that dollar in your hand is how you can bring about change. In no way can force be used. This has been tried for many hundreds of years all over the world and has failed every time. Blimey! Even an entire country can be defeated and destroyed so I’m sure a rebellious people, pushing it’s own government for change will be about as effective as the use of rubber arrows at Agincourt. But isn’t rebellion a contradiction in terms? You cannot defeat the monster without becoming the monster yourself? This isn’t defeatism, it’s being sensible, and putting ones faith in a different method to those which have been tried before, and failed time and again..
As for spreading the word, good luck with that. I would say 8 out of 10 people I try and help see the light from Miles torch through the fog, think I’m raving mad. The others welcome the news and seem to be OK with it but I reckon the soft and fluffy Matrix is too strong for them to resist. They talk the talk but I rarely see them walk the walk…
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Benjamin said:
It took thousands of years for them to build their worldwide empire as is, and short of an asteroid collision, will likely take as long to undo. To do so, one must remove their power. Their main power is money, so that is what must be removed. Take you money out of their banks and stocks (but where do you put it?) and refuse to buy any of their products, which is a path that will lead to self sustainability. Of course, if just a few of us worldwide do this, the impact will be negligible, so the most important task to begin with is spreading the truth far and wide, so the impact might be greater. It might not have an immediate effect on the world, but at least it will on your family and neighbours.
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Jared Magneson said:
The solution seems similar to Asimov’s premise in his “Foundation” novels, in some ways. Demolishing The Powers That Be is desirable of course, but if we also demolish humanity and the Earth along the way and it takes thousands of years to recover (or more), then what has been gained? Ideological victory is preferred of course, though it may be slow going. Can the timelines be mitigated? Can an ideological victory happen faster than the Earth’s flora and fauna suffer destruction at our (their) hands?
I myself place little value in humanity’s purpose here, but rather have greater concern for the other life that we affect. Which course would be best for them? And could there be a path forward that’s best for all? The Golden Path?
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Benjamin said:
The path that is best for all is the ideological path, and I’m even sure they agree, but don’t action it for fear of the unknowns in leaving their current structures. The amount of times they depict themselves in movies as bad guys, it is impossible they are not aware of their flaws.
When you say, “but rather have greater concern for the other life that we affect”, I’m not sure if you mean something spiritual, as in the afterlife, or those around us who we interact with, as in our friends and family, animals, plant life, etc…. Either way, I wholeheartedly agree. To try and save humanity with the knowledge we’ve gained seems a bit like mission impossible, but to use it to help ourselves and those around us is readily achievable, and the greatest inspiration to me.
That said, if anyone wants to use this information to try and save the human race, without destruction as you suggest, then more power to them. Every great movement must start somewhere.
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dennisjoyleary said:
As I expected, there is overwhelming resistance here to my presence and ideas. That in itself is a red flag, indicating that what I am saying is vitally important. Miles encountered that in the beginning of his art career, and still does in art, science and politics. However, in time a cadre of defenders arose who formed their own establishment. When someone like myself comes along, asking uncomfortable questions, the defenders close ranks to maintain their status. It’s an old story with ever new versions.
We live in an authoritarian culture, and this blog is no exception. Like it or not, the authority here is the owner of the blog. Same with Miles at his site. It puts owners and authorities in a delicate position: how much freedom can they allow and not jeopardize their base of support? Even Miles who appears to be free and independent, can be turned into a model and idol by his followers.
Questioning the master on his own practice of keeping pet kittens is too bitter a pill to swallow for insecure minds, and perhaps for the master himself. I am a guest here with no proprietary rights. The community here can easily put pressure on the owner to ban me, which it is presently doing. That’s just the reality of the situation as I see it; and I have no problem with reality.
I am attracted to this site by the masthead ideal of cutting through fog. As is often the case, inward fog can be projected outward. The response to my cutting edge ideas indicates that there is a wall of fog here akin to an iron curtain. As I wrote many years ago: “I have been to Germany and been to Berlin; the wall has been moved, now it’s within.”
The homepage of Mr. Mathis features a triptych altarpiece of Harriet Westbrook Shelley, a dying cry for truth and justice. And then a striking gauntlet statement: “I am the chasm odonton–the mouthful of teeth….Beware Ye of Troy, I come bearing gifts. Words that shall bring your houses down upon you.”
Batten down the lighthouse hatches, mates, there’s a perfect storm roiling the seas, heading our way. Now is the time to cut and run, or enjoy the fun. Cheers from the lighthouse.
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Jared Magneson said:
Nobody cares about your pet conspiracy theory, bud. Josh doesn’t need to ban you. It’s such obvious misdirection it’s almost painful to watch you struggle on.
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nada0101 said:
Maybe this is the spooky in-joke (between his own two ears) that Mr Leery is playing, i.e. his own favourite conspiracy theory is a “pet” conspiracy theory, just like a “pet project”.
He’s taking the p*ss; therefore his easily triggered umbrage is an affectation.
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Philip Cox said:
Indeed. Miles has been defending cats lately and us here too.
In the internet trolling world what he’s doing is called “triggering”.
i.e. they’re trying to emotionally trigger our soft spot for our pets and waste our time.
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L Kinder said:
DJ Leary, I believe there’s not much resistance to your presence here, just to your pet idea that seems extremely trivial and nonsensical.
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ihatestarwars said:
I looked up Scott Weiland up at ethnicelebs, noticed Kline/Klein, then noticed Siouxsie Sioux, who’s a Walloon, and ended up with Morrissey, who’s father name was Peter ALOYSIUS Morrissey. Morrissey is a second cousin, once removed, of Irish footballer Robbie Keane. His grandmother was a Bloomfield, the article says it is of English origin, so it can’t be Blumfeld? Scott released a covers album doing songs by Stone Roses, The Beatles, Bowie, New York Dolls, and The Smiths. Full circle?
Chris Cornell@Ethnicelebs: ‘In an interview on Howard Stern’s show, c. 2007, Chris appeared to state that his mother is Jewish. This is not accurate.’ (Because they should know more than him?)
Cobain has Irvings, Moores, Diamonds and Fords.
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lewis reid said:
Chris Cornell’s former roommate, Andrew Wood, the former lead singer of Mother Love Bone, died of a heroin overdose the year before. Five out of six.
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dennisjoyleary said:
I just reread Josh’s preface to this thread, and see that this is not so open a thread as I thought. Apparently, it was intended to be about “current (faked) events.” Have I been off topic? Or, is the topic of keeping pets actually a current and faked event? After some doubts, I am leaning to the latter.
I was going to proceed chronologically in our discussion of pethood but the most recent reply is so touching that I must extend the courtesy by repeating it here, and returning the favor with thoughts of my own:
“Nobody cares about your pet conspiracy theory, bud. Josh doesn’t need to ban you. It’s such obvious misdirection it’s almost painful to watch you struggle on.”
Just a few questions, if I may. How do you know that nobody cares? I care. Am I a nobody? How do you know that some silent reader does not care? If it’s “such obvious misdirection,” why all the emotional reactions and ad hominems? Why not state differences of opinion with calm and clear logic? What if the issue of pethood is in fact directing attention to the masthead ideal of “cutting through the fog?” And where did the idea of “conspiracy theory” come from? I never spoke of it; I have just been giving my opinion.
You are correct that it is painful to struggle on, but the effort is not without its consolations. Whether it’s misdirection or direction, and whether it is or is not painful to watch, I suppose is up to each one of us.
Thanks for commenting or reading about this interesting case.
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nada0101 said:
Your “pet” conspiracy theory is not a funny joke, pet — it is just an obvious trolling tactic.
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L Kinder said:
I’m not an expert on trolling, but it does seem that the proposed pet conspiracy is ridiculous and that discussion, as with other trifles, should be relegated to a website that caters to trivial pursuits.
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DF said:
Even the Peta thought process seems well thought out ( never thought I’d create that sentence ) compared to Leary’s .
” Contrary to myth, PETA does not want to confiscate animals who are well cared for and “set them free.” What we want is for the population of dogs and cats to be reduced through spaying and neutering and for people to adopt animals (preferably two so that they can keep each other company when their human companions aren’t home) from pounds or animal shelters—never from pet shops or breeders—thereby reducing suffering in the world. ”
Would Leary propose some wholesale pet extermination program ,
thereby blackwashing CTTF ?
https://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/
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dennisjoyleary said:
Greetings from a cranberry farm in Wisconsin. My name is Dennis and I am 79 years young. Pleased to meet you.
I think I need to calm a ‘petrified’ situation down with a new introduction. Allow me to reset the stage by way of a panoramic view.
I am not at home in this “world gone wrong.” Dylan. I feel like a stranger in a strange land or a motherless child. “I live in another world where the earth is strung with lovers’ pearls.” Dylan. Half the time I live in the world portrayed in the myths of our origins about the Golden Age, Elysium and the Garden of Eden, and half the time in this world of woe.
We once lived in a real world; oh, say 100,000 years ago. It lasted about 25,000 years before Power began its rebellion against Love. Now, 75,000 years later, Power is making its final putsch. The only thing keeping this show on the road is good folks like yourselves.
What has this to do with pethood? Power garners and augments its power by abusing animals: first by hunting them, then eating them, then domesticating them as livestock or pets, then inventing agriculture to feed them and human slaves, then inventing writing to grease the machine and now technology to use robots to turn humans into robots.
That’s the short story of his-story. Fortunately, there’s herstory which can be recovered and restored either in this life or the next, or both. All we need is a strong enough lighthouse to withstand the coming tsunami. Free animals, including human animals, are the the key to releasing pets from their owners and giving them back their sovereignty.
How do I know? Pets themselves tell me what they cannot tell their owners, lest they be put down or worse. A couple of nights ago, coyotes were telling me the same thing as pets: let us be free. Can you see why I am so wild about pets? Because I am a pet who craves freedom and the wild. Time for Miles & Co. to hop aboard the freedom train.
Please remember that I am talking panoramically about principles. I am not saying anyone has to change their practices regarding pets! If the principles are understood, there will be a gradual and smooth transition over many years to corresponding practices. Also note that I’m addressing a current issue involving pets as a fake version of free animals, imo, so I think I’m within the guidelines of this thread.
Thanks for reading or not reading, as your pleasure suits you.
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Jared Magneson said:
This is evidently part of the tranny psy-op.
“It lasted about 25,000 years before Power began its rebellion against Love.”
That may be the gayest. most effeminate liberal bullshit thing I’ve heard or read all year. And since you’re representing yourself as a man…
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DF said:
I’m not seeing any gender connection , but the Mind-F*ck of The Sermon on the Mount , the Beatitudes and other pacification techniques the Romans and their agents ( Paul ) had it store for the invented Christianity cult , Jesus was a sweet sweet man/God and so should you .
I’m not here to knock anyone off their life journey , if you’re not here as a troll or shill , that”s great but , what any of your ideas have to do with Miles and his calling , yes calling , to have his chosen , well thought out relationship with cats and raising kittens , who are then ending up in loving homes to share love with humans , I’m still not seeing your point Dennis , even if it is a panorama .
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nada0101 said:
No-one disses my Gran’s religion. No-one. I’m gonna come over there and f**k you up!
Wait, wait, wait. I mean’t that figuratively, obviously. I’m not going to rape you or anything like that. I am using the street argot that refers to “beating you up” or “smashing your face in”.
Wait, wait, wait. How tall or “big” are you? Just checking. If you’re taller that 5 foot 6 inches then have a good day, Sir, and I wish you well. If you’re around 5 foot then I’m gonna f**k you up man!
Hold on a minute. Hold on there. If you’re a woman, wyman or even a Wyvern (which are not f**king dragons!) then I apologise. If you are a small man then I’m gonna f**k you up dude…
Stop! I have to check — are you or have you a belt in, say, a martial art or do you have any close-combat skills. If so then have a good day, sir, or mam; and I wish you well. If you are basically defenceless, then I’m gonna so f**k you up man!
Oh wait. Alright, if you are disabled…challenged in any way…then I’m sorry. I apologise for my pugilistic, aggressive manner. I in no way would even attack such a person.
I might aswell be honest with myself, the only disses being done are waiting by the kitchen sink 😉
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DF said:
He puts the bog back into cranberry bog . No need for violence , bore you death , he will .
My thought today is about the phrase ” Man of the Cloth ” .
One of the notches on the unlock the Spooks key is fabrics .
I was an Alter-boy , so I’ve had a peak into the Priest Vestments drawer ,
Libarace would be jealous .
The most fabulous ones ( the Easter ones ) are Purple .
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Jared Magneson said:
Nada said: “or even a Wyvern (which are not f**king dragons!) then I apologise. If you are a small man then I’m gonna f**k you up dude…”
At least someone got the wyvern/dragon distinction correct! Not sure if you’ve seen “Game of Thrones”, but it’s at its core a story about three dragons – yet in the show, they fucked it up and animated WYVERNS instead. How you gonna miss two entire fore-limbs? It’s insulting and degrading to the real dragons, damnit, and if I were offendable I’d be highly offended. That alone almost ruined the show for me; which is rather silly, since it was ruined from Day -3,650, when the fake-author first started fake-writing that shit-show of a story and never bothered to finish it.
Just posting a light Defense of Dragons. I feel it’s important to have standards, especially regarding my ancestors. 😉
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nada0101 said:
@Jared
Yes, we’ve mentioned this before. I blame Disney’s “The Dragonslayer” or rather other pundits think that is what started the rot. Just look at Smaug in Peter Jackson’s Hobbit mess.
@DF
Apologies if the humour was too extreme. I was playing around with a character in my head — a loud, cowardly street punk. I’ll call him Mr Cranberry Bog from now on.
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Jared Magneson said:
Alas, I had to boycott Mr. Jackson’s Hobbit movies. Smaug was bad enough in the original story – one arrow, taking down a dragon? – but after watching the LOTR movies it just seemed prudent to eschew the five Hobbit ones. The story simply wasn’t that good, however original-seeming it may have been at the time. I grew up with that stuff, sure, but by the time I was ten had already read ten authors better than Tolkien. His writing is pretty cold. I need a good cry sometimes, and he just never delivered. 😉
Alas again, it turns out that most of those authors are spooks to some degree or other. But not all of them, I daresay. I still find Stephen Donaldson’s writing to be of the highest caliber, though I’m too emotionally weak to re-read his Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever again. That’s some depressing shit, and while I’m immune to the “mental illness” psy-op (and so are you), sometimes sorrows should just wait. I’ll get back to those later.
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nada0101 said:
That Donaldson is a spooky brainf**ker, I am in no doubt. He is also one of the best action writers on the planet; and a master of narrative and character.
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Jared Magneson said:
Oh! Have you read much of his work? I’ve only read the first six Thomas Covenant books and his amazing Gap Cycle, the space series. And “The Mirror of Her Dreams”, which I found interesting and fascinating.
His space books set me off at a still-youthful age, with the massive threat of “singularity grenades” being about the scariest damn thing I’d ever conceived. It wasn’t until a decade later when I found Stephen Crothers demolition of the topic that I felt some sense of relaxation, and of course Miles came in with his stuff around the same time (but I hadn’t heard of him or read him yet) with similar demolitions from a logic standpoint. It was very comforting to learn and know that black holes aren’t real, sci-fi novels or none.
It was even more comforting to learn that nukes were the same. It still is.
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nada0101 said:
Of Covenant, I read up to the 2nd book of The Last Chronicles but never bothered finishing the others — I was reading them in tandem with my brother but whenever I blurted out the ending of that second book, that was that. He refused to read any-more and with shame and guilt I gave up on the series aswell — so I make that 8 Covenant books I waded through. They messed with my head when I was a teenager; the writing seems more verbose now; the action and story are still fantastic.
Mirror of her Dreams, yes read those two books — a bit raunchy at times but who isn’t impressed with Gart and his combat with Artagel. Gildentree, I think was a Bloodguard novella. A collection of short fantasy stories, cannot remember the title. And, finally, the first Gap novel — I enjoyed the author’s notes about Siegfreid better than the story. So that started a “gap” in my reading of Donaldson until the Last Chronicles came out.
I’ve also found some articles on his writing methodology and an archived online Q&A session in which he answered various questioned, even one of my own (I had forgotten I posted a question)!
I did a bit more research on him after that — I think his family was Christian Scientist but I could never confirm it. I recall one of his book’s biographies stating that “fact” — but I read that as a teenager and cannot now find that edition with that description. He implies that he is traumatized by the Kent State Shootings because he was on campus at the time (red flag). I think he was born in 1947 (red flag). And lets face it, coming from a family of Christian Scientists is also a red flag, if that is true . His publisher was Jewish, of course, and was always demanding more Covenant material — more of that brainscrewing mental turmoil 😉
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nada0101 said:
Of course, the real issue with the Covenant series is that it is essentially unfilmable. Or rather it was. Given where the movie industry is heading with the likes of the recent adaptation of Stephen King’s “It”, I’m sure the protagonist’s rape of a teenage girl will not stop Hollywood in the near future.
This is why I never re-read the books (apart from dipping into those magnificent action sequences, from unarmed blood-guard combat to swash-buckling blades) because no matter how hard Donaldson tries, that initial crime cannot be justified: not the transportation to another realm; not the sudden surge of feeling into his formerly Leprosy ridden body; not his injuries, both mental and physical that he takes with him into the Land. I concluded, as grew older, that there was no reason for Covenant to act like that.
I could understand if the writing blamed the “wild magic” but it doesn’t; Covenant makes a choice and he is the “wild magic” anyway. I played around with a screenplay design trying another Point of View but that doesn’t work either.
But rest assured, deviant Hollywood will one day show the rape scene, the subtext being “sure all men are rapists anyhow, they just cannot help themselves”. I have thrown out my copy of Stephen King’s “Salem’s Lot”, knowing what I now know but I’m still reluctant to cast out my Donaldson books aswell.
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Jared Magneson said:
You know, I feel exactly the same way. The rape scenes are WEIRD. Spooky. I couldn’t put my finger on it this way until you mentioned it, but in Covenant it never really made ANY sense to me. In the Gap Cycle, however, it makes absolute sense. Almost like he was ordered to refine his technique, perhaps his handlers knew that MOST people couldn’t make it through the first few chapters of Covenant. But yet I did, myself, as a youth (teenager). It shocked and horrified me and that’s what I liked about it, it was enticing because I immediately knew we weren’t dealing with that Tolkien-hobbit-elf pussy shit, here. It was adult shit. Or so I thought – but no longer think that at all.
So I believe we’ve nailed his coffin on this one. I will not stop recommending the Gap Cycle to anyone who likes Sci-Fi, however I will not (and actually have not ever) recommend Covenant to anyone who likes fantasy fiction. To me, those were always very unsafe books (Covenant) and I recall being more depressed at that time in my life that at ANY other time, period. Now we know why. I was cramming it down my own throat.
And yet, we have his sci-fi books, The Gap Cycle, which have had the exact opposite effect. The ending was beautiful, it was amazing and VERY relevant to all that we’re discussing here. Almost as though he was trying very hard to expose our masters, but simply couldn’t go all the way and just tell us that The Dragon (Holt Fasner, the main antagonist of the story, who owns the Earth and the United Mining Space Companies and everything) was Jewish or something. In all other ways, Holt Fasner represents our current Powers That Be.
So I feel mixed about it, but not about the author. I won’t bother reading any of his other works and just stick to the Gap Cycle as the only one worth a shit, despite the beauty of his writing even in Covenant, which inspired much of my early art (landscapes). I haven’t read it again since my late teens and now I never will. Fuck all that.
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nada0101 said:
The cognitive dissonance created by The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant is that you have a despicable Covenant plonked him into place of beauty — the Land is truly an awe-inspiring creation, from its natural wonders to its people. The magic system is brilliant, it being linked to psychology and emotion; the antagonists are some of the best ever written, e.g. the Ravers are chilling and the Ur-Viles are completely alien to our senses. And who isn’t inspired by the indefatigable Lord Mhoram or enticed by the unbalanced Elena or stunned by the competence of the Bloodguard?
The problem is that bastard Thomas Covenant and that is exactly what Donaldson planned. A sadistic brain-screw — create a thing of beauty and introduce the pox. He goes even further in the Second Chronicles and totally destroys the Land.
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nada0101 said:
“despite the beauty of his writing even in Covenant, which inspired much of my early art (landscapes)”
That sounds brilliant; very creative. I bought Karen Wynn Fonstad’s “Atlas of the Land” years ago, just because I loved that world:
Sadly she passed away. The Land is fairly barren compared to Lord of the Rings but that will come as no surprise when you find out that Donaldson “creates what he needs” — he doesn’t build a world and populate it, he creates it around his characters’ psychology, as a manifestation of their fears and desires, during their journey. Either way, he stumbled across a sublime creation (The Land) and set out to torture it.
I’m more interested in learning how to emulate his action writing these days; I couldn’t begin to copy his “psychological” (I’m starting to suspect that word is just bulls**t) and cultural creations.
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Jared Magneson said:
Out of curiosity, was it Morn Hyland’s rape that stopped you from finishing the Gap Cycle? I think you said you only read the first book…
If so, finish it. Start on the second book, “Forbidden Knowledge.”
The more I think about it, the more I think Donaldson was trying to tell us something there. Not something mystical and likely something we’ve already gleaned from Miles and company here, for the most part, but that story is incredible and I’m starting to think it was his attempt to break out, or “let on”. And the ending…
It will make you feel very good, not dirty and used. I promise it’s worth reading, given our conversation here.
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nada0101 said:
I might just do that. I’ve a batch of fiction to wade through set in Hellenistic times, so the Gap series could be the perfect antidote to historical fiction (it does get really dry, like the sands of Libya). At least this time I should be more aware (woke! 😉 ) when an author is brainf**king his reader.
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Josh said:
Dennis, in one of your early comments, you wrote “don’t cut me any slack.” And then you started complaining about the authoritarian reaction you got when nobody cut you slack. You’re like the annoying kid in the back seat who puts his finger two millimeters away from his kid brother’s face, and then when the brother complains, the annoying kid feigns surprise and says, “But I’m not even touching him!”
You may be a troll or you may just be a Midwestern cranberry farmer with some kooky ideas. I’m going to ask you politely to drop your pet pet theory. You’re not getting any traction on it here, and I think you’ve had your say. You think you’re cutting through the fog with that idea, but a few other people seem to think you are fogging up the window. At this point I’d say I agree with them. Beyond that, I’ve looked through your comment history and I don’t really see much value in anything you’ve written on any other topic. And some of what you’ve written is similar to trolling tactics I’ve seen before. Suffice it to say you’re on thin ice.
To everyone else: at this point if you think Dennis is a troll, then try to exercise restraint and don’t feed the troll. Nothing else a troll loves than for people to respond angrily to his absurd antics, so he can profess his innocence and denounce the denouncers for their rudeness, authoritarianism, etc. So at this point I’d say just ignore him if you think he’s trolling. (I know, I know, easier said than done.) I’ll cut him off if he starts to really go off the rails.
A couple more things, Dennis:
In your previous comment you wrote: “And where did the idea of “conspiracy theory” come from? I never spoke of it; I have just been giving my opinion.”
The answer is that it came from you: “Does anyone really think the masters are not aware of the effects pets have in dumbing down humans? If there are any such, I would suggest they check their fog-o-meter. Think of all the ads portraying pets as cute and cuddly, and of course man’s best friend. Of course the programmers couldn’t be lying about this, or making money off it, now could they? This couldn’t possibly be part of their obfuscation, or shall we say obfogcation long-standing pethood program, could it?”
And finally, you wrote “We live in an authoritarian culture, and this blog is no exception.” Alas, it is true. But the authoritarianism I exercise is due simply to the uneven nature of the playing field. When untold billions of dollars can be spent paying cadres of people to troll and disrupt on-line communities, it forces one to either run a tight ship or consent to being overrun by the shill armada. I’d like to think I’m an enlightened dictator, but neither myself nor anybody here has any illusions about the situation. I wish it weren’t so, but it is what it is. If you don’t like it, you are welcome to start your own blog decided to bringing down the Master-Pet class system.
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nada0101 said:
Gaddammit, I knew this blog was authoritarian! 😉 That lighthouse represents the Eye of Sauron, for goodness sake.
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nada0101 said:
And now that Josh’s dirty secret is exposed, I can now show the hidden meaning behind “Cutting through the fog”. If we rearrange the letters we get this — Huzzah! No I don’t mean we literally get “huzzah”. That’s just a shout of victory. Anyway, rearranging the letters of this site’s name gets you this — Huzzah! Dammit. Read on anyway…
“Infect Grog Thought Hut”
What say you now, Josh? Or should I say JSH!
Lol. Sorry, in a silly mood. Here’s the anagram generator results 😛
https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=cutting+through+the+fog&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv
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Josh said:
LOL. Did you know that the root letterd JSH are also shared by the English word ‘joshing’ which means to tease in a playful way or engage in joking or playful talk with others. (-;
Now, how could my parents have been able to guess a defining feature of my personality before I was born?
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Jared Magneson said:
Please do not infect the grog! The grog did nothing wrong, and the hut was fine last I checked! 🙂
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nada0101 said:
Lol. Good point — I missed the chance to josh about the josh inherent in Josh.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
“…We once lived in a real world; oh, say 100,000 years ago. It lasted about 25,000 years before Power began its rebellion against Love. Now, 75,000 years later, Power is making its final putsch. The only thing keeping this show on the road is good folks like yourselves…”
Sorry Leary, but I’m afraid I’ve no interest in the load of old fanny you spout. You’ve really been sold on the Paradise Lost malarkey and are so far off the correct groove that you’ll never make it back to reality. Having a symbiotic relationship with animals is one of the important factors which led to humans becoming the dominant species, and that close working relationship continues to this very day. It is based on a bond of affection between the parties concerned, working to achieve a common goal.
The scope of these relationships with many different types of animal is vast, ranging from hunting and security at one end of the scale, right through to simple companionship at the other. The human race would never have got where it is today without the close mutual bonds we are able to make with animals.
Lets all move back onto the central topic of this thread, which is exposing current events to some critical analysis. What you got Leary?
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lewis reid said:
Turned off, tuned out, and dropt off to sleep Mr Leary
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L Kinder said:
IS BEING WOKE ENOUGH?
What’s the use of being woke, if we do nothing about it?
I think we can do at least 2 things. We can wake others. And we can discuss strategy.
Like what about trying to learn the methods of the opposition to see how they maintain power? Also, looking to see if any of the opposition are our potential allies? And if so, discussing strategy with them?
I’m sure plenty of those in the opposition are addicted to luxury and privilege and money. But it’s hard to believe that 100% of them are. Surely there must be some who are independent-minded and humanitarian. Also, I’m not sure they really need money. It’s a useful tool for increasing productivity and trade, but it seems a simpler economy would be outright autocracy or oligarchy, with non-oligarchs enslaved. If the JTB have total control, why are some of us woke? Is it because they’re not all-powerful or because some of them are on our side?
I’ve been searching for means to develop a humane society for a long time and I think I’ve made a lot of progress in my learning. But I haven’t been good at persuading anyone to try out things that seem workable.
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L Kinder said:
PROJECT FINDAFAKE.
One idea I just got is to ask people in the public to help find fakes in the public record.
Some of you folks do that already. Can yous help explain how to spot fake photos etc?
We could start a class on that to recruit others to help uncover fake events and fake people in history. Surely, a lot of young people would be up for the challenge.
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L Kinder said:
AD.
I put an ad here: stlouis.craigslist.org/com/d/alton-find-fake-historical-photos/6790485839.html
I’m not good at wording ads. Can anyone suggest how to improve it? It’s for Project Findafake.
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L Kinder said:
I thought it would be clickable. Here it is again:
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/com/d/alton-find-fake-historical-photos/6790485839.html
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Jared Magneson said:
Nothing will be “enough”. Awakening the mind to truth and real history is an intelligence mission, effectively – to survey and assess the issues, to delve into their roots and causes, and to eventually find a way through the shit-storm. The problem is that there’s no one “right” way through – but plenty of wrong ones as well, as we’ve seen in almost every rebellion or revolution in history. They did it wrong. They didn’t know their enemy, and they were attacking decoys instead. They had no strategy, no tactics, and no direction. They were unable to approach the beast, and in most cases did not know it was there at all.
But the beast cannot be confronted head-on, for it has too many heads. And too many arms, with too many hands wielding too many weapons. Some intellectual, some physical.
In my opinion we won’t see any real cultural shift until the Powers That Lie screw up, and make a martyr of something that nobody at all can stomach. But the problem with that is that nobody SHOULD be able to stomach even the mainstream atrocities we know about, much less the hidden atrocities (Tito, Vexman’s Thoughts) that shake us to the core. It would need to be something far, far worse…
…and just thinking that at all is terrible and makes me feel dirty. So I stop there.
♫The only thing worse than giving freedom to the guilty
Is killing the innocent and leaving your soul filthy…♪
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Jared Magneson said:
“Once your brain understands it is being messed with, it can resist. Like any other body part, it can heal itself, but only once the disease is targeted. It has to pinpoint the invader in order to drive it out. And—as I have said in previous papers—it is anger that allows it to do that. The emotions drive us, as they were meant to, and the best thing you can do is replace fear with anger. The heat of the anger will melt the fear, and putting the body into action will jumpstart its natural responses. You need some adrenalin in your system, and about the best thing you could do at this point is get hopping mad. At first it will be undirected, but you will find something to do with that energy if you think about it. Start by having sex with someone you like and then move on from there. Continue by sabotaging some plan of the governors in whatever small or large way you can.”
– MM, “The Sword”
Click to access harpy.pdf
That is to say, do whatever you can, L_Kinder. Find all the fakes you can. If you need any help, just holler.
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L Kinder said:
Jared said, “That is to say, do whatever you can, L_Kinder. Find all the fakes you can. If you need any help, just holler.”
Will do (soon – thanks).
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
@L Kinder:
“…What’s the use of being woke, if we do nothing about it?
I think we can do at least 2 things. We can wake others. And we can discuss strategy…”
Knowing that our fake reality is being scripted and organised by the invisible people running the Global Shoah, allows one to ignore most of the rubbish being served-up incessantly by the MSM. This gives us time to get on with our lives without distraction and do the things we really want to do, worry free. Best thing that happened to me since the birth of my children.
Getting others to understand what is going on is also important and Miles Mathis papers provide plenty of ammo to achieve this goal. This blog and other open fora are excellent places to make contributions towards getting more people to see what has/is happening, time permitting of course.
Regarding discussion of strategy, the first rule is don’t do it on the web! It must always be done face to face with those you trust and away from the madding crowds. Secrecy is hard to achieve these days, but essential if you want to avoid tipping your hand to those in charge.
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Mark Cowell said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purple_People_Eater
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L Kinder said:
YELLOW VESTS MAKE BANK RUN?
France AWAKENS 2019: Weaponized Bank Runs Incoming
I’m wondering if this so-called bank run is designed to bring in cryptocurrency. If not, what else might be intended by the JTB by this probably fake event?
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Good find, L Kinder. I’ll have a look into the background to this, but first thoughts are that this is yet another part of Operation Chaos, which is targetting most of Europe. As I’m reasonable sure the JG are fake and crypto-currency is fake, I suspect the planned ‘bank run’ is fake too. Seems strange to be warning the banks about this event, as it gives the banksters time to prepare a mitigate strategy. Be interesting to see what becomes of this sideshow.
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Jared Magneson said:
*sideShoah? 😉
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Doah!!!
+1 Jared
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Vexman said:
Don’t you see that one eye pigeon looking at you? It can’t get more obvious than this, so I was extremely suspicious before watching it. In my opinion, this is a usual diversion and misdirection trick, a truth heavily spun, leading you to talk about exactly the opposite of what’s supposed to be your focus within this news. Btw, the length of the video is 8m37s -> 8 & 1, an ace and an eight. Probably pure coincidence.
They want you to believe this GJ movement started as planned by them, with a cunning plan behind it, leading to the fall US$ and rise of crypto-currency, possibly leading to one world government. Yawn. Like if there was another set of these ruling bastards that need to be conquered and subjugated. They are firmly in the ruling position for millenia, we know about that here around CTTF, right? The second purpose of this video is to create noise around GJ, I’ve already commented on that here.
So as usual, the truth is completely opposite to what the author of this high-spin video suggests. Gilets jaunes movement was sparked by the French people, in majority by those who were fed up with this ultra capitalistic, deranged bastards at the top. GJ can not be stopped at this moment so MSM has to talk about it, spinning it heavily while trying to confuse anybody looking into it.
It may be irrelevant, but the date when that video was published on YT is the same date when Christophe Dettinger, le boxeur de gendarmes, turned himself in to the police. He’s the latest GJ hero, an ex professional boxer who joined the protesters and beat the shit out of two cops (after briefly watching those cops beating a woman).
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Mark Cowell said:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-09/wwi-conspiracy-part-three-new-world-order what they covering up
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lewis reid said:
After reading Miles’ latest about Jones, Angela Davis, etc, I woke up this morning and saw this report on the news –
https://www.rt.com/usa/448273-angela-davis-birmingham-honors/
Yeah, Miss Davis is spooky all right and so are her causes.
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Runar said:
Yes i have been googling her too, and she even looks spooky, as she doesn’t resemble herself in every pic. I think she always looks like somebody else. Her nature is evasive. Here is one of the more telling pics of her:
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Runar said:
Jones and Jonestown.
Yes i have always wondered why they managed to kill almost all, as approaching death will make people look different upon things they might have promised and so on. It will be a true chaos if you try to get all these killed and it will show in traces and forensic detail.
And there have been real no angry voices against JJ, despite 800-900 victims. No one to miss?
Here is a yt video of the two sons of Jim Jones. I did’t care to see and hear it myself, but looking at those two for some seconds was interesting.
Why would a methodist like Walter Mondale speak with Jim Jones? Maybe because Jones started out as a Methodist, he ran his church as a part of the Methodists before he changed content. I think this change came gradually and quietly. Maybe Mondale was completely unaware of the change or he was fully aware of the spook status of the Methodists too, and siding with them.
Methodism was founded by John Wesley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley
who in his young years was at service of the US colonial lords, Georgia. He then entered the Moravian Brethren and was taken care of its leader, before he broke (” “) with them and started his own new Church.
I have mentioned this earlier, and i remember i found this info on the page of the Moravians. I think that leader was Zinzendorf.
Wesleys wikipage seems like a spooks page, and methodism may be even more intended for spooks and experimental religion than the Moravians. Also when i read about Saul Alinsky i noticed that he engaged into Methodist churches, but probably not exclusively. Also Hillary Clinton have methodist links from the 60ies but has recently spoken about becoming a Methodist pastor.
The propaganda value of the Jonestown operation is the defaming of religion, and in particular cults, or sects. This happens when small groups of people gathers and dont get any opposition to their thoughts, or so do they want us to think and stay away from “societies” while they run their own masonic and secret societies as they always have, without competition. What is most remarkable about this case and its propaganda, is the fact that it has always been presented as a christian society. No, it was a secularized communist society in the spirit of Marx and Lenin who both were anti spirit. I noticed this first last year, despite having heard and read about it occasionally over the decades.
I remember there was a follow up in the nineties. That Swiss masonic order which also committed mass suicide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Solar_Temple
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Runar said:
Forgot the links:
Jim Jones’ sons tell all in new Jonestown doc
A retired United Methodist pastor friend of Hillary Clinton is publishing a book with daily devotionals he emailed her during the presidential campaign. Apparently after the election she told him that she would like to do some preaching herself as a United Methodist laywoman.
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DF said:
Ironic , as I hear Hilly loves to lay women 😉
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Anti-Jive said:
These guys don’t seem very trustworthy do they? They say plenty of odd things here, but for some reason JJ Jr. mentioning his “current wife” sticks out to me. I’d expect that from Larry King or other showbiz folk, but who calls a woman they’ve been married to for 31 years “my current wife”? Maybe he’s got a fake death along with a new assignment and new wife in his future. Shhh.. don’t tell Mrs Jim Jones Jr.!
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Anti-Jive said:
I remember reading the sports pages in the newspaper during my youth, and one couldn’t go too long without being reminded of the Jonestown story due to one of Jones’s children being a basketball coach at some college, and they just loved writing about him and how he overcame his past and father’s influence or whatever every few years.
Yeah the followers and Jones’s “movement” were always portrayed through the years as being Christians which is totally absurd. It does not jibe with what was being said by Jones and what was going on at the time at all as Miles clearly illustrated. Of course after the production, the story can be altered as the writers see fit. The main focus has been making the monster character of Jones, another boogeyman/cult leader (complete with easily identifiable “iconic” features like the big shades) and blackwashing religion, spreading more fear, horror and racial distrust. Even when a white guy seems like he’s on our side, he may just lead us out into the jungle and poison us. As Miles pointed out, not many people know much about Guyana and since the headlines are always more important than the details to most people, I wonder if another reason they may have chose that country was since to many it might sound “African”. I think a lot of people still assume Guyana is in Africa The casual observer that will no doubt be forced to overhear some bits about the story at some point may draw the conclusion it was just another crazy white guy who wanted to kill a bunch of black people.
I took a look around at the leading images on a quick google search on this sham, and nearly all show the victims laying face down. I’m no expert on cyanide poisonings or the sort of reactions the human body might have during a deadly poisoning, but I seriously doubt everyone would end up in the same position, even if Jones supposedly told them to do so (or whatever BS they may use to explain this) Maybe one guy waited to flip all the bodies over onto their bellies before he took his first sip 😀 In the few instances I saw someone on their side or back there was hair or something to obscure any facial features, how convenient. I didn’t invest a great deal of time in looking at the pics, but I noticed there also weren’t aid workers (or anyone else) present in most shots of the bodies. It looks like once again the photographers where the first ones on the scene and had their run of the place. Ridiculous.Someone ought to add some of these to the Fauxtos album. I may do it myself later if necessary.
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ihatestarwars said:
Was there Methodism in his madness?
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DF said:
Yes ! Another superb spook project outing .
I’m wondering about the meme that came from that project ” Drink the Kool-Aid ” , talk about legs , that’s an all time marathon run .
So , what about a Big-Sugar robber Barron connection ?
A continuing inside joke with the Twinkie Defense ?
I’m not the researcher to dig into any family connections on this .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyana_Sugar_Corporation
Type Agricultural and Processing
Industry Sugar
Founded *** 1976 ***
Headquarters Skeldon, Guyana
Revenue $200 million +
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Josh said:
Actually it’s “Don’t drink the Kool-Aid.” But I guess it’s one of those “as long as they spell your name right” things. (-;
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ihatestarwars said:
Has anyone heard about the Japanese guy who married a hologram?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/28/health/rise-of-digisexuals-intl/index.html
‘Kondo’s November wedding to cyber celebrity Hatsune Miku — which is not legally recognized — provoked mixed reactions in Japan and abroad. Some were dumbfounded by his choice of a three-dimensional laser image over a human. Others congratulated him.’ (What’s the mother-in-law like, that’s what I wanna know?)
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Not surprising the guy fell for Hatsune, she’s got great norks!
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lewis reid said:
Explains why the Japanese birthrate is so low.
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Benjamin said:
Early contender for silliest hoax of the year.
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Josh said:
re: the Japanese guy who married a hologram, it’s worth taking some time to read this article on why young people are having less sex. I think Miles linked to it in one of his papers recently. Just like they don’t have to spy on us if we ‘willingly’ give away our privacy, they also don’t need to forcibly depopulate us if we ‘willingly’ stop having sex.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/
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dennisjoyleary said:
Hi. I’ve been tending to the farm, and mulling over what was said to me about the hereafter not to be mentioned topic. Thank you very much for everyone’s contribution to my remedial education, especially to Josh who does not josh around when he puts his mind to it. I am not joshing. To be brief, just let me say that I do appreciate those who can run a tight ship, which I view as a positive kind of authoritarianism. In our logo, motto, manifesto of the lighthouse for ships in the fog, a tight ship is a must if we are to ride out the approaching perfect storm. Too bad the Titanic wasn’t a bit tighter. Oh, wait, Miles outed that fake, so I feel lighter.
Here in Wisconsin it’s been 10 degrees F at night, and the cranberry beds look like gigantic skating rinks since they were flooded to protect the vines. Wherever you are, I hope you are warm and protected. Cheers!
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Josh said:
Cheers, Dennis
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Runar said:
Authoritarianism? We are hostile in response and will continue to be against people who are hostile, even when they cover it up in mud and fog.
Pull your act together and show relevance.
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Benjamin said:
I personally admire those who have the cojones to challenge leaders, after all, Miles wouldn’t be writing his papers without that trait. However, when you are a newcomer, and people don’t yet have your trust, it was certain to go down poorly. In an environment where most who do that are trolls, potentially paid, it was shaky territory. I will cut you some slack however, credit to you for now showing grace.
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Philip Cox said:
I like this new bloke. New guest paper up.
His mention of the Radical Dance Faction reminded me I was listening to the Brian Jonestown Massacre the other day.
The Brian Jonestown Massacre’s ‘bandname is a portmanteau of deceased Rolling Stones member Brian Jones and the 1978 Jonestown Massacre’ and a psychedelic rock, shoegaze/garage rock band from San Francisco. The list of current and former members is long and uh interesting. Former member Jeffrey Davies for example lives or lived in Echo Park which I believe has been outed as a spooky neighborhood in Miles papers. Wiki page for it confirms.
So is it normal protocol to start a band alongside a fake shooting? I can’t imagine average folks naming their band after a perceived mass suicide and murder of people, even for edge-lords. Many of these Neo-psychedelic or similar genre bands popping up recently like Khruangbin appear like 2nd generation Laurel Canyon-ites or something.
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Russell Taylor said:
I thoroughly enjoyed that expose of Hungerford.
I hope we don’t have to wait too long for the author to pull apart the Dunblane event.
As for pets, we have a Westie and just a short walk for him is a couple of miles, and he easily brushes off a 15 mile walk over the hills and moors. He eats better than we do with mixed vegetables and lean cooked meat. He’s now nine and a half but to watch him power up a hillside chasing squirrels you’d think he was only a pupster.
Perfect teeth too due to his diet (NO PET FOOD).
He refuses to eat dog food, tinned or otherwise, he’s not stupid.
Some of the neighbours though, take their dogs out for 5 mins, twice a day for a quick shite, then back in doors, often clocking up about 100 yards. Treated like flippin prisoners. In fact prisoners in high security jails get more sun and fresh air.
So sad…!
We treat him like he was one of our children, same care…same respect…same protection. The majority of dogs I see though are mistreated in many ways.
A harder pill to swallow is the meat industry. Pets have it easy compared to say, a lamb. Six months old, just about fully grown, carted off to the abattoir to be ruthlessly tortured and butchered by young, brainless, trainee slaughterers. The undercover videos almost make me vomit and you don’t want to know what I think should happen to the perpetrators. They shouldn’t even be classed as human!
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Josh said:
@ Russell Taylor “I hope we don’t have to wait too long for the author to pull apart the Dunblane event.”
Looks like your wish has been answered. Whoever Lestrade is, he is welcome to join the conversation. And if he’s listening, I’ll throw my nomination into a hat for a similar unwinding: the Bloody Sunday massacre of 1972. I remember looking at old news footage of it a couple of years ago thinking that it looked like your typical hoax with crisis actors, etc.
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Russell Taylor said:
Read it this morning Josh…GMT and thoroughly enjoyed every morsel of evidence.
It really is quite staggering that these events are so obviously faked.
If any of it were true it wouldn’t be so disjointed and contradictory, with impossible timelines and witness statements.
Thank you Lestrade for your time and great patience. The end result fully justifies the effort.
And thank you Miles for letting the name geni’ back out of the bottle to make all those family connections.
Reading these exposés is like medicine to me.
Bloody Sunday is a great choice for a future outing. So was the Mountbatten boat death faked too?
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ihatestarwars said:
Yes, if only to stop U2 playing their song ‘Sunday Bloody Sunday’, and then they might call it a day altogether.
Apparently, the difference between God and Bono is that God doesn’t go around thinking he’s Bono.
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ihatestarwars said:
@Hamilton’s green v-neck pullover.
He looks like he’s wearing a Pringle of Scotland pullover. I own a couple, both with the same logo (they don’t always have the lion tho’), similar to this:
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DF said:
I always thought Bono got that name from his nose ,
http://www.freakingnews.com/Bono-Pictures–2890-2.asp
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Russell Taylor said:
Hazel Haslett…LOL….I bet she made her parents lives a living hell giving her a name like that.
And her family Bobby Beef, Larry Lamb, Harold Haggis and Veronica Veal.
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ihatestarwars said:
Is it true Hazel called off her wedding with Mr. P. Nutt?
There was an advert in the local paper a few years back, proud parents announcing the birth of their baby daughter called ‘Crimea’. Let’s hope she doesn’t marry Billy Ocean.
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L Kinder said:
I see David Icke is “exposing” it too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzNQpaUGys — That seems to confirm my suspicion. Who can better blackwash conspiracy theorists than someone who claims that the JTB are reptilian aliens?
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MathisderMaler said:
This person may or may not be trolling, I don’t know, but he/she is partially correct. The majority of pets are mistreated, what with fixing and vaccines and small yards and ropes and so on. It is a major problem. I would agree with freeing most pets from their “owners”. Including all fish, which should not be kept in tanks, all reptiles, all big animals. That said, a lot of human/animal relationships are touching, beneficial, and necessary. Animals on farms like dogs and cats have it pretty good, and some animals in cities are also treated extremely well. I don’t “keep” my cats–they are free to go if they like. They stay here because they like it. They get good food, warmth, and a lot of petting. Who wouldn’t like that. THey get free protection for their kittens. As for them dulling my brain, get serious. Yes they relax me and keep me smiling, and thank God for that. WIthout them I would be less happy, but that doesn’t imply I have trapped them for my own evil purposes. I haven’t trapped them at all. The door is open and there are no fences here. One of my girls is currently rogue. She runs off into the fields for days and comes back when she wishes. She will be back in the spring when the kittens come, since I provide a very safe cave.
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DF said:
Re-reading one of my responses , I should not have presumed ” a Calling ” , as a description of your relationship with cats , Miles , my apologies if that was inappropriate .
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DF said:
In regards to Dennis , I think we are always hoping new comers to the group can add something new and of value .
You’ve been on Earth longer than most ( any ? ) of us , surely there is something you can add here .
The pets and ancient Love theories were misses , but I wouldn’t want you to feel unwelcome , our criticisms were aimed at the contents of your comments .
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MathisderMaler said:
I seem to have a knack for being sent to moderation. It happens more than half the time.
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cancelled said:
Mine too.
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Wayne G. said:
Ditto. But maybe I’m still “new?”
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Russell Taylor said:
I always click to be notified of new comments and new posts but it’s very hit & miss.
I keep seeing several comments that I had no idea existed with people chiming in on subject matter I wasn’t aware of. So I get some notifications but not others.
Also, I can’t ‘like’ peoples comments. I click like and log into WordPress etc but my like doesn’t appear.
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Josh said:
I don’t know why you aren’t getting some notifications on new comments for posts where you have asked to be notified of new comments. Have you checked your spam?
I have a similar problem with not being able to like comments when I’m logged in on chrome. But explorer works ok. In general the back-end interface I mostly use doesn’t have a like function so I don’t even have that option, if anyone is wondering why I never like their eminently likable comments
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Russell Taylor said:
Thanks for the reply Josh. I’ll look into it.
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Jared Magneson said:
I’m not sure what anti-Spam Josh is using as it’s a WordPress.com site, but generally if you post from a new IP (as I do, often, since I’m using a Virtual Private Network) it will trip the moderation or if you post lots of links. Or if you comment at a certain rate that WordPress.com thinks might be spammy. Different plugins behave in different ways. Regular WordPress sites have a bit more flexibility on this, but I think Josh’s are working very well since we don’t see much if any actual “spam”. I think the Moderation thing is probably for the best, since all it does is delay comments a bit until Josh can get to them. Might be a bit of work for him, but given the lack of advertising spam and whatnot it seems worthwhile.
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Josh said:
Jared, spam and comment moderation are two separate things on these prêt-à-porter WordPress sites. Spam filtering is done automatically and indeed does a good job. It filters for the reasons your mention. Occasionally it will pick up a real comment but mostly just spam. There is a separate moderation queue that is activated when a user triggers one of the filters that I have specified. That is where almost all the comments go to when they seem to disappear until I can approve them. That is where Miles’ comments are going. But as far as I can tell there is almost no connection between the filters I’ve set up and the content of the comments that go to moderation. It’s almost as if someone else is in charge of deciding when comments go to moderation…
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Jared Magneson said:
Who owns WordPress.com? This will likely tell you your answer.
“WordPress.com is a blogging platform that is owned and hosted online by Automattic. It is run on a modified version of WordPress, an open source piece of software used by bloggers.”
https://wordpress.com/
Who owns Automattic? I couldn’t find muvh information. It’s a private company with little info, but:
“In April 2006, it was revealed, through a Regulation D filing, that Automattic raised approximately $1.1 million in funding,[6] which Mullenweg addressed in his blog. Investors were Polaris Ventures, True Ventures, Radar Partners, and CNET. ”
Who owns THOSE investment groups? Polaris is a Snowmobile company. True Ventures is spooky as hell, and Radar Partnets, and CNET too. Of those, Polaris seems the only company with a real product. My bet would be the rest are owned by, well, you know. THOSE guys. Blackrock or Vanguard. I just got bored chasing the trail, have at it if you like of course.
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cancelled said:
Being an Anglo-American (married to a Brit; lived there for many years; love the English people); I’m excited to find we have an English “Sherlock” onboard. I hope he continues to scrutinize high profile “outrages” in England. I suspect the Lee Rigby killing was a fake event, but when I suggest that to my UK friends, they come down on me like a ton of bricks.
(“Yeah, quite rightly, too!” my English houseguest reprimands.)
He won’t even entertain the possibility Hungerford was a hoax, dismissing the idea without bothering to read the article. Just the typical knee jerk “what a load of rubbish” reaction.
(Comment interruption: a friendly row.)
If people only realized they’re hoisting themselves with their own petards …. closed minds aiding and abetting their own deception and subjection. How can they have a successful Brexit, if they cannot/will not see how they are being played?
Well done, Hungerford guest writer.
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dennisjoyleary said:
Greetings from the North American Heartland. Wherever your neck of the woods is, I hope your heart is humming with happiness.
My own heart at the moment is fearful. I have a confession to make. The theme of this thread is “current (faked) events.” I have to admit that I myself am mostly a current faked event. Not that I planned it or want to be that way, but it just seems that’s the way it is.
You have developed an expertise is spotting fakes. I asked you not to cut me slack and you didn’t, for which I am grateful. The truth often hurts me before it begins to hurt good. I’m 79 but I still wonder what I’ll be when I grow up.
I’m fearful of introducing controversial subjects here because I’ve been trained to conform or else. But where better to test the waters of truth than with experts at diagnosing falsity? I have a strange inferiority/superiority complex which fogs my perception; so I am naturally attracted by the lighthouse metaphor.
I’m feeling guilty about turning this into a therapy-confessional so better stop sooner than later. I’ve been here hardly a week but have already landed in hot water. Forgive me if I have overstepped a line only you can see. (Hat tip to Dylan). Best regards.
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Jared Magneson said:
I don’t think you’re in hot water and you write well, and don’t seem spooky to me. If I gave you too much shit for your pet thing, I apologize. It’s not an IRRELEVANT issue at all – just not something that I personally considered high on the threat list, you know? You seemed genuinely concerned about it, anyway. Don’t be scared. If you have stuff to say, say it! And let the chips fall where they may. A thick skin is pretty important on the Internet, you know. 😉
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DesrtRose said:
Not sure if this is the right discussion thread for this, but here is an interesting article about money laundering and expensive art that echoes many of the points miles made in his launder pdf
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MathisderMaler said:
No, that article is more misdirection. It pushes you into TrumpRussia, which is a fake. Russia had nothing to do with the steal. The governors don’t need any help from Russia for such things.
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Kevin S said:
For generations the House of Saud has been identified with the strict Wahhabi version of Islam, which rejects as idolatrous any depiction of the human face or form. Not only does the title of the painting, “Savior of the World,” conflict with Islam; the clear orb in Jesus’ hand obviously represents the cosmos, which medieval philosophy believed consisted of transparent, nested spheres, as memorably described by Dante. Depicting Jesus as holding the globe of the cosmos in his hand, the painting unambiguously identifies Jesus with God, expressing in graphic, iconic form the Christian doctrine most repugnant to Islam.
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cancelled said:
Non-representational Art has been/is the policy in Oman, and the Emirates (where I have lived) and I suspect all countries with Moslem governors. I believe the Koran dictates this. All I saw mounted anywhere publicly in my 7 years there were depictions of the leader (Zayed, Maktoum, Qaboos), just as I saw in China under communism (although as part of a 1980 scientific delegation, being a foreigner I was able to privately buy several beautiful traditional Chinese watercolor paintings from the “underground” through official channels.)
It therefore struck me as downright weird when I learned they put a Louvre and Guggenheim museum in Abu Dhabi, the UAE capital, given the taboo on representational art. Okay: it’s to encourage tourism. But then how do you explain a Sorbonne and New York University in Abu Dhabi? More Western “evil Western” fare. Now I learn there are plans for (hitherto forbidden) Vox cinema chains and Hollywood fare in Saudi. The Pope is visiting Abu Dhabi this year.
I’m wondering, is the veil falling away? Or, more to the point, being dropped? Now that the world has been pretty much stitched up? The “Phoenicians” having used the apparently antithetical religions to create the illusion of a separation of power throughout the world? A seeming antagonism, Christianity vs Islam, being nothing more than controlled opposition by the same people?
What interest would an Arab (supposedly Muslim) king have in acquiring a Christian painting? And then have it disappear, making world headlines? Arabs are Semites. Could there be, possibly, an inside joke here amongst the families? The painting depicts a Semite with the whole world in his hands.
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Russell Taylor said:
“Arabs are Semites.,,,,,The painting depicts a Semite with the whole world in his hands.”
Indeed…well spotted.
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Josh said:
Interesting. According to this, which itself is based on a document from Iraqi intelligence, the Saudi Royal family is crypto-Jewish: http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/12/is-the-saudi-royal-family-jewish/
Of course we should look upon this document with some suspicion given its origin, but the central claim certainly jibes with other revelations. In terms of misdirection/limited hangout, it may be trying to sell the lie that this move went against the Ottomans, or that the British-Ottoman rivalry was real. I suppose there are other angles to the misdirection as well.
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nada0101 said:
I assume the “Merchant Princes of Unrelenting Bulls**t” are responsible for setting up, or least remolding in their image, all extant nation-states as-well as the ongoing re-shaping of the Middle East…and Europe…and Far Asia…and South America…oh and the US itself. Heck, they keep it all in flux to forever keep us discombobulated. Panta rei my arse; I’m panting out of exhaustion with all this change. That supposedly means “everything flows”? What’s the greek for “everything blows”? 😉
Cue song!
Dis–com–bob–uuuuuuullll–NATION!
That’s it — just keep repeating that line in a silly singing voice (my trick is to sing whilst chewing an old sock) to a very fast beat. I’m meeting my manager at the Stanley’s Stag tavern to discuss my first recording. Locals refer to the establishment as “The Stanleys’ Stanley”,
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Philip Cox said:
I checked out that link Josh. Definitely baited with some truth coated in some heavy mis-direction. Wear your armor when you go in. There is some interesting info there that vibes with what I’ve found about the Sauds and Islam in history.
As far as the Sauds being Jewish I think that can be a given at this point, plus the huge piles of evidence pointing in that direction. I think this is common knowledge in the Middle East, at least among the educated. With all due respect (although I can’t see anyone coming to this site also trying to shore up their monotheistic faith) and I’m no expert in this, but I can’t see any educated Muslim scholar out there not coming to the conclusion that Islam was initiated by a Jewish tribe (Banu Hashim and Banu Qurayza… ‘alternate spellings include Quraiza, Qurayzah, Quraytha, and the archaic Koreiza’). Muhammad we are told was from the Quraysh tribe. Also Muhammad also seems surrounded by’ sponsors’ who seem to be the real power behind the show (Abū Bakr). Yathrib (ancient Medina) plays a significant role in early Islam and had a big Jewish presence there. I don’t remember the exact rabbit path that got me there but any Miles reader can connect the dots if they wish. It’s history is a bit uh.. ‘on the nose’ to put it one way..
Then there’s this interesting paragraph from another article on the site (http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/12/the-house-of-saud-its-jewish-origin-and-installation-by-the-british-crown/):
“For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey. The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam. Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi’s followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines. In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi. And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks. There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.”
Note the name Wahhab and the religious fundamentalist sect the Wahhabi-sts (the ‘epicenter’ of the phony global war on terror) and openly funded by the Sauds.
Seems to connect with everyone else we’ve found out so far.
Also there is this uh.. “photograph” linked here if we really stretch its definition:
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Josh said:
Great follow-up and analysis. Thanks.
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GaryRP said:
Oh what a great photo example of a really bad paste-up! So many contrast, head size, and depth of field issues all at first glance.
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Jared Magneson said:
@Philip Cox: They’re just using crayons anymore.
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Runar said:
There are many more writings on the Saudis jewish origin, via Turkey. Just search.
Wahabism (BritishIntelligencemade) is just the ordinary culturecide program (supposed to be read as progressive culture revolution) aimed to remove the rich heritage the arabs have from the ancients.
Everything about Islams origin is suspect.
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Mark Cowell said:
looks like the Daily Mail is the leak paper of choice (Kennedy Gay etc)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6585263/Damning-new-evidence-Dr-Kelly-DIDNT-commit-suicide.html
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Of course he didn’t commit suicide, he didn’t even die. You’d think even the Mail would realised that this staged event was just part of the phoney Iraq War scene of the Globe Shoah. The actor portraying Kelly has obviously retired to the Isle of Man, as presaged by the famous 1908 song…
Has anybody here seen Kelly?
K-E-double-L-Y.
Has anybody here seen Kelly?
Find him if you can!
He’s as bad as old Antonio,
Left me on my own-ee-o,
Has anybody here seen Kelly?
Kelly from the Isle of Man!
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dennisjoyleary said:
Peace from the cranberry farm. As one astute observer here noted, food is the source of our problems and opportunities; and as another anon put it: “we are what we eat.” Go cranberries!
I was reviewing my short history here. Thanks to those who have recently offered support, if only provisional and qualified. I appreciate and need support, without becoming more of a people pleasing basket case. My review started post request from good authority to avoid certain loaded topics, which I intend to honor.
I prefer this thread with its theme of “current (fake) events.” Current evokes the positive charge of photons washing through me, and washing my sins away. Fake supplies the negative pole for an electric ground. Event plays the neutron for the dance of electron and proton. I find the arrangement rather sexy to boot.
At the outset of my lighthouse review, I heard from good authority that there wasn’t “much value in anything you’ve written…” Not surprising since most of the time I have a feeling of being a dummy, particularly in the company of luminaries here. I had virtually no scientific background prior to reading Miles about three years ago.
I felt charged by his art, science and politics. I remember arguing with my son over Pi=4; he’s now in engineering at Berkeley, after a couple of years doing deep sea diving work. We had some lively debates. He thought I was nuts, except for warning him not to mention such heresies to his professors. He directed me to some debunkers. Dummy that I am, I defended MM reasonable well; and still love the idea of that third aspect of curved motion; not the least for its sexual suggestiveness.
I do admit to being a tease, which I blame on my Irish ancestors. I think I used to use the tease of coming close but not actually touching on my sister. Always have a fall back defense. It elicits an authoritarian reaction but that’s not what I am talking about here. Bene distinguere, bene discere is a safe Jesuitical play on words. Just teasing!
What I was talking about was the authoritarian use of ad hominems and emotional reactions, posing as rational arguments. Prior to good authority intervening, I received quite a number of these pseudo-arguments, but then I am the “new kid in town” so it’s understandable. I myself often play loose and fast with the scientific method. Mea culpa.
The fog in here is getting a bit thick and heavy. I actually have a mini humidifier emitting a fog within arm’s reach. I feel the need to go out into the borderline between freezing and thawing (it’s about 32 F out). Nice talking to ya all; and remember: don’t cut me no slack on account of my age or curmudgeon persona behind my Mr. NIce Guy training.
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Josh said:
Peace, Dennis.
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LeakyGut said:
Are these your blogs?
dennisjoyleary.blogspot.com
dennislalover.blogspot.com
dennisjamesleary.blogspot.com
Whoa Nelly. I’m not interested, thanks.
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R T said:
Yikes.
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LeakyGut said:
Oh, I butchered the third one:
denisejamesleary
Painful, really. Good look with your womam. Peace.
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LeakyGut said:
luck not look
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Jared Magneson said:
Dear god, what the hell IS all that nonsense?
I suppose it’s another one of those “trust your gut” kinda things… If the spook spooks, then he’s spooky?
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dennisjoyleary said:
Those were my earliest forays into the blogosphere. My current website grew out of that but has grown considerably since that time. Nice research. I was experimenting then. Haven’t seen that for years. If that was from 2010, my current site must have been started about seven or eight years ago. Thanks for the memories. I believe you were forewarned that it might not be your cup of tea. To each his or her own.
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LeakyGut said:
Why is the geni page of your uncle so sparse with names sir?
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ihatestarwars said:
@http://dennisjoyleary.blogspot.com/
‘I’ve got an inner womam named Joy who appears to be rather shy since she keeps herself so hidden most of the time. ‘
Strength thru Joy?
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nada0101 said:
“My name is Sue, how do you do!”
Cue fight with father.
Great song 😉
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LeakyGut said:
“Nice research” 🙂
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L Kinder said:
I just read A Salvator Mundi Update at http://mileswmathis.com/mundi2.pdf
Miles said a famous painting that’s fake was supposedly sold to the Saudis by Russians, but it was really the U.S. buying Yemen, I think. He said the Russian guy has been living in the U.S. and has been involved with Trump since 2016. If Trump is a stooge, how is that significant? Also, why is the entire affair published in the first place? Why don’t they do all of this secretly? Then they wouldn’t have to worry about Miles figuring out their scam.
Hurry, someone explain that to me. I can’t stand unanswered questions. Woe is me.
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R T said:
I was thinking this exact question myself after reading it, and my conclusion is that somewhere out there, aspects of this con became public. Once these things become public, they create these types of stories where they can mold that truth into something that fits their narrative. They admit these smaller truths in these essays to hide the larger ones, as Miles said. It’s their way of controlling the narrative. They don’t really care that you know it happened, as long as you believe it happened the way they told it to you. It’s like a scrambled code, and unless you are able to decipher the letters into something resembling the actual truth (which until Miles hadn’t been done), then the code works in their favor. This has to be why Wikipedia is so easy to read once you know the deal — -once you have the glasses from “They Live”, so to speak. Because most people cannot unscramble the code, it works in their favor.
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R T said:
Or rather, they don’t care what you believe, as long as you believe the event actually happened. Beyond that, you’re really welcome to believe whatever your little heart desires. I think that’s also why they promote so much garbage conspiracy theory these days, even on the television stations they conspirators themselves own.
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L Kinder said:
NEWS.
PS, I posted links to weekly news articles at https://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=24288.msg300993#msg300993
I included some of Miles’ recent papers and this site. I’d like anyone’s opinions about how to improve the news. Like are there better sources? And are my selections good or not?
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DF said:
Maybe a Yemeni elite family are in fact selling their homeland wholesale and will soon retire en mass .( if this ‘ Nation ‘ isn’t just East Saudistan by this point in history , we can assume there is a family there connect to the world wide controllers )
Maybe they just like bragging , semi-secretly about what’s going on .
They may also use complicated geo-political events as Spook school training tests .
” Tell us young Stanley , what do these four events tell you .”
There may be arranged marriages , Family breeding things going on and a need to signal them .
All guesses on my part , great insight from Miles once again on this one .
” Oops , where is that bloody masterpiece ? I know it’s around here somewhere .”
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cancelled said:
While reading D G Hogarth’s circa 1910 book The Penetration of Arabia, I ran into a passage on Yemen which said there was a large population of J’s living there. That caught my attention, given the professed hatred of J’s by Muslims.
At this time, Hogarth was described as an archaeologist; but that I’ve discovered was code for spy.
D G Hogarth together with T E Lawrence would later orchestrate the Arab Revolt.
In it, one gets early 20th c info about those in power in Saudi, Yemen, Oman; plus info about early Wahhabism. Plus a glimpse into trade.
The book is an interesting account of how the Middle East was mapped by “orientalists” from mainly Britain and a few others from Europe. They logged everything: flora, fauna, water sources, populations, tribes, life styles, cultural practices, diet, climate, weather, what food crops were grown and where: they logged every detail of everything there. Particular attention was paid to geology, detailed topographical descriptions being sent back home. Geological formations etc give clues to underground resources: oil, minerals.
The book is free online.
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Josh said:
Yes there was a large population of Jews in Yemen. Almost all of them left in ’49-’50, the vast majority to Israel. They were silversmiths in Yemen. They made amazing Jewelry. But they were not treated well by their Zionist overlords during and after their transfer to Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Jews
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dennisjoyleary said:
Thanks, Josh, for the peace wish. I finished my out walk. It was 26 F or 3.33333 C. No kidding. I looked it up. I’ll take it as a good omen. Despite cloud cover and freezing temps, ice patches on the asphalt were melting. Photons in heat.
This belongs in health matters but allow me to cross pollinate. My walk was less enjoyable due to intercostal pain from a recent false move and energy loss, possibly from the sun’s shenanigans. Since I like to hang out on the borderline of armchair physics and psychology, I am doing a mental photon flush for healing.
Continuing a review of my brief history, I was invited to start my own blog by one of you for out of bounds topics. Good idea. I started a blog free website about ten years ago. I won’t disclose it lest I arouse suspicions of being a troll or shill. If a troll is a disturber of the peace, I probably qualify; but shill I am not if that refers to money. In my own field, I probably rival MM for sheer output via writing, audios and videos, despite not adding to my site for three or four years. I think I have a grand total of two views that I know of and no followers. I believe this is due to my extreme views, of which you have had a mere taste, and a bitter one at that. I don’t want followers anyway.
Humor abounds. The Eye of Sauron Lighthouse, indeed. Me? An anagram scrambler is easy; a straight backwards move more rare; oh, say sinned for dennis. Or poetic license from josh to gosh.
I am not convinced that I can ever make a substantial contribution here; and my banter goes only so far. Perhaps I should follow Constable Dull’s example, and hold my tongue when the conversation is beyond me.
Holofernes: “Goodman Dull, thou hast spoken no word all this while.”
Dull: “Nor understood none, neither, sir.” — Love’s Labour’s Lost.
Cheers, and heed the advice: “don’t feed trolls” or those prone to narcissism. I may inadvertently be one of those Irish trolls living under bridges to scare scarty cats for the fun of it.
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Josh said:
Dennis, I’ve taken a few minutes to look through your website. I appreciate your message of love and sexual health. You were trying to spread your message here, share your ideas, and I believe it was from a good place with good intentions. So I can understand if you feel mystified and miffed by the reaction you received here. But I think you will agree that many of your ideas and your way of thinking are highly… unconventional, even for unconventional thinkers, and could easily be seen as a bit “out there” or eccentric. So you came in here on your wavelength talking in rather figurative terms (e.g., “where circular motion reveals an overlooked dimension wherein the mystic God particle meets the physics Love particle” and “We once lived in a real world…before Power began its rebellion against Love”). I suppose this has a clear meaning to you but not to us, and it was easy for us to suspect that you were deliberately talking nonsense as part of a “discredit by association” (DBA) strategy. If you have read Miles’ work, you will know that DBA is SOP for TPTB SOB’s. We have seen commenters here trying to do the same thing in the past. We use the word shill and troll interchangeably to refer to them.
I am going to post a link below to your website and your youtube page. I am doing it because I see merit in some of your ideas and do not believe it is the work of a spook. It also seems like you do want to share your ideas with others. Anybody here is free to peruse it, take what they wish from it, and draw their own conclusions. This is a one-time thing. I don’t really want this to turn into a “discuss the work of DennisJoyLeary” forum, so I’d prefer that you take up the discussion directly with him by contacting him directly (his e-mail is at the bottom of the homepage). Dennis, I also ask you to refrain from trying to use the comments section here to promote your unique philosophy, though of course you are free to share your perspective. I’ll let you figure out how to thread that needle.
One question: when did you move out of Ojai?
Here is a link to Dennis’s website: http://thelovegovernment.com/
And to his YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Gs-NbLOwFfprQsuE9L-RQ
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dennisjoyleary said:
Thanks, Josh. I am deeply moved by your patience and kindness. I will try to reciprocate. In answer to your question, I moved out of Ojai, California in early May of 2018. On the night of January 6 of that same year I was burned out by the California Thomas fire. Fortunately, at 2 am I escaped in my motor home, after loading it with what I could save.
I stayed at an evacuation shelter for about a week and then moved back to where I had been, now nothing but ashes and twisted metal. Due to the toxicity and government clean-up crews, I moved my motor home to an area of the property that had survived the fire, happily tucked under a large pepper tree.
However, my simple country lifestyle was not to last. Two county enforcement code enforcers with two deputy county sheriffs arrived in my bucolic scene. The owner of the three acre property was informed that my motor home was illegal, and he would incur serious fines if it was not vacated. I assured him that I would be gone in a week.
Ojai is an already high rent area, being some sixty miles north of LA, and twelve miles from the ocean, in a shangrila valley. The fires left hundreds of families homeless, looking for places to rent. Through the local shelter programs I tried to find affordable senior housing but that turned out to be a bust. At my advanced age I wasn’t able to go back to living on the street illegally in my motor home or in the woods, also illegal. The shelters are available only in the winter, which I had used when necessary.
My only good option was to return to where I was born and raised. My family agreed to take me in, although I had anticipated renting nearby. I gave my motor home and its contents away to my former wife who lived three hours north on two and a half acres in a trailer near the remote Carrizo Plain National Monument where Indians still gather.
Now I live comfortably, suitable for my aging body, in a large white house, with an entire upstairs and half of the downstairs at my disposal, within a large extended family; on a cranberry farm, ensconced within 3000 acres of habitable land, woods, river, marsh, lakes and reservoirs, intersected with winding dirt and gravel roads. I lived here back in ’75-’76, and ’81-’88, in a former foreman’s house, working as an RN in the nearby Tomah VA Hospital. Otherwise, after ’76, I lived in the LA area in various places, while working for the VA’s out there, or as an independent contractor through nursing agencies.
Pardon the rambling on with more than you probably care to know. Thanks again for putting up with the likes of me. Photons do care and work wonders!
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Josh said:
Sounds like an ordeal. Great that it worked out for you.
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cancelled said:
Here’s a curious passage from the first chapter of The Penetration of Arabia (1904)
“Had the Arabs propagated Islam only … even so the Arabs would still make a paramount claim on western interest. But when we remember that, not only as the head and fount of pure semitism they originated Judaism and largely determined both its character and that of Christianity….”
(Propagate: to breed specimens of (a plant or animal) by natural processes from the parent stock. To spread and promote (an idea, theory, etc) widely.)
Is he saying that the Arabs are Jews, and Jews are Arabs here? And that the Arabs are responsible for Judaism as well as Islam, and also influenced Christianity? That’s a new one for me.
I don’t think the author gives any sources or references for his statement. The book is a pain in the neck to navigate online.
(The author is D G Hogarth, a British archaeologist and scholar associated with T E Lawrence … He was Keeper of the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford, from 1909 to 1927.
His career included the fields of archaeology, classics, intelligence operations, and diplomacy. From 1886 a fellow of Magdalen College Oxford. Conducted excavations in Cyprus, Crete, Egypt, Syria, Melos, and Ephesus.)
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Very good find, Cancelled and I agree with you that it looks like he is attributing the creation of Islam, Judaism and (possibly) Christianity to the Arabs. Interesting that the script for the Shoah called for the creation of several widespread and contradictory religions.
I’ve long thought that Judaism and Christianity were invented in Europe sometime in the 15/16th century, but now it looks I’m going to have to add Islam to this ‘faked religions’ list. Those in charge back in the day were quick to spot the benefits of using religion to cause mischief – divide and conquer and all that.
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cancelled said:
If you look at the verbs, it looks like he’s saying the Arabs, as the “fount” of the Semites, “originated” Judaism (and also by extension the “Jews”?) from which they “propagated” Islam and also influenced Christianity. So the Semites were divided into two (currently) warring factions: Arabs and Jews. The separation creates a good pretext for war.
According to a later passage, where the Phoenicians are mentioned, according to Herodotus they came from the “ruddy waters” region of Arabia (the Persian Gulf area). I would have thought the Red Sea. Anyway, Semites, again.
It’s certainly important in the scheme of things, this professed antagonism and downright hatred between Arabs and Jews. The locals I met in the Middle East believe it to be true. It is cultivated, that antagonism. Is it a lie?
Perhaps the world of plebs should be watching what the “Arabs” are doing, instead of the routinely maligned Israelis, who may be playing a misdirection role, with innocent people as collateral damage. I was looking at the World Economic Forum website’s partners in the “about” section and clicked on Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Arabia. I came across a “Kingdom Tower” edifice that gobsmacked me. Visually it struck me as Power tower. Curiously, somebody decided to rename it Jeddah Tower. To downplay the hubris perhaps. Who knows?!
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Philip Cox said:
I don’t think anyone has lost money betting against the hubris of these Arabian princes.
Reading that article reminds me the bin Laden family (Saudi Binladin Group) are still running these boondoggle construction projects over there.
This also reminds me of the Abraj Al Bait complex that sits right next to the Great Mosque of Mecca, where the Ka’bah is housed.
Even as non-religious person my jaw still drops due the fact they actually built that next to the holiest site in Islam. So I take it the Sauds are telling everyone they worship a new god.. the god of Money.
Reviewing the history of the House of Saud..wow.. they are a dynasty you just want to hate.
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nada0101 said:
“The Wahhabis live in fanatical fear that places of historical or religious interest could give rise to alternative forms of pilgrimage or worship. Their obsession with combating idolatry has seen them flatten all evidence of a past that does not agree with their interpretation of Islam.
Irfan Ahmed al-Alawi, the chairman of the Islamic Heritage Foundation, set up to help protect the holy sites, says the case of the grave of Amina bint Wahb (as), the mother of the Prophet (saw), found in 1998, is typical of what has happened. “It was bulldozed in Abwa and gasoline was poured on it. Even though thousands of petitions throughout the Muslim world were sent, nothing could stop this action.”
Today there are fewer than 20 structures remaining in Makkah that date back to the time of the Prophet (saw) 1,400 years ago. The litany of this lost history includes the house of Khadijah (sa), the wife of the Prophet (saw), demolished to make way for public lavatories; the house of Abu Bakr, the Prophet’s companion, now the site of the local Hilton hotel; the house of Ali-Oraid, the grandson of the Prophet, and the Mosque of abu-Qubais, now the location of the King’s palace in Makkah. ”
So they are erasing their own history? The “Wahhabi” excuse is just misdirection. I mean who the heck wipes out their own culture unless they have something to hide or they are not who they say they are and are being vindictive. That’s if the mainstream reports are true — it could just another stack of lies to traumatize ordinary people; perhaps that’s also why they’re turning Mecca into a self-parody.
I still suspect the bombing of Yemen is another attempt at erasing the past — there are lots of connections between Yemen and the religions of “the Book”, including Judaism.
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DF said:
Don’t forget how the first generation of ” Family ” leadership bamboozled the snafu out an opportunity to unite the rabble .That’s some top rated human engineering Spookery .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia%E2%80%93Sunni_relations
” Shia and Sunni Islam are the two major denominations of Islam. They chose sides following the death of the Islamic prophet Muhammad in AD 632. A dispute over succession to Islamic prophet Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community spread across various parts of the world, ….”
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L Kinder said:
I saw a video which said Islam didn’t really start till 200 years after Mohammed.
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DF said:
The Penetration of Arabia ? , wink wink , say no more .
That has to be some kind of in-group joke .
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cancelled said:
I know. The choice of that word for the title has been niggling at me. Why not “exploration” of Arabia?
The “penetration” of Arabia? Did somebody get screwed? It suggests to me, not a rape, but a coupling: the Art of bringing or coming together.
The meaning of the word penetration, given the contents of the book, where a string of wealthy, well-connected Europeans penetrated the continent disguised as Arabs after having learned to speak Arabic and dress as Arabs, sending home intelligence describes exactly what they were up to.
To explore means travel over (new territory) for adventure or discovery.
Penetration means “the power to penetrate, esp: the ability to discern deeply and acutely. The act of entering a country so that actual establishment of influence is accomplished.
Interesting case – one such Arab imposter was a Swiss named Johann Ludwig Burckhardt (b 1784) from Basel, from a wealthy family of silk merchants, who passed as Sheikh Ibrahim Ibn Abdallah. Currently, Burckhardt Processors based near Basel is a major player in the oil rig supplies industry.
Is this an example of penetration and coupling?
The wealthy, influential Burckhardt’s are very proud ( as Gerry noted in Ancient Spooks) of their ancestor’s family tree. To see it, go here: http://www.obfuchai.com
More recent Burckhardts have been a renowned art historian who defined “culture”, a celebrated artist, a filmmaker, and the inventor of psychic surgery. Gosh!
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DF said:
Is this an example of penetration and coupling?
Sharp unwinding by you , what would be happening at that time geopolitically , that would disrupt the trade routes ( silk ) ….. always the fabrics leave a clue ……
I was just thinking , with no women around , if the caravans rockin’ don’t bother knockin’ .
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cancelled said:
Oops that’s an incomplete link for the family tree:
http://Www.obfuchai.com/pdfs/ckdt-family-book.pdf
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Yes you’ve hit the nail on the head, Cancelled. Penetrate is spook speak for having inside access to the opposition to neutralise any potential risks. This is why it’s so difficult to mount any useful opposition to those in charge as they infiltrate potentially dangerous organisations and subvert them from within. Having controlled opposition in place also reduces the chances of spontaneous uncontrolled resistance, where the outcomes become unpredictable.
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DF said:
Last night’s Antiques Roadshow ( USA ) was held at the Dodge mansion estate , outside of Detroit Michigan , I couldn’t help but be surprised by the original Dodge logo on their autos . ( well not really surprised ) .
https://www.google.com/search?q=dodge%3Elogo%3Estar%3Eof%3Edavid&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj74ZOZgPDfAhWsneAKHb6gBucQ_AUIDigB&biw=1068&bih=620
” What religion were the Dodge brothers?
Why the Original Dodge Logo Was a Jewish Star. In 1900, Horace Elgin Dodge and John Francis Dodge founded the Dodge Brothers Company. The brothers were not Jewish, but their original logo looked a lot like the Star of David. It was a circle with two interlocking triangles forming a six-pointed star …”
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helios22 said:
Hello ! Please, what do you think of Benjamin Fulford and his predictions ?
https://benjaminfulford.net/
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LeakyGut said:
Ken covered him in some of his blog entries, I think.
site:redefininggod.com “benjamin fulford”
Hope it helps.
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nada0101 said:
Redefininggod is hilarious for one reason — it makes a prediction then revises that prediction slightly then makes another predication, hastily revising it the next day, then another prediction is made etc, until you have all these moving towers of predictions still being pushed forward, none of these being proven true or false because of the endless tinkerings.
If I popped backed to that site, a year later, the same predictions are still being headlined, though with a years worth of changes 😉
“This was going to happen here at possibly this time but now I think it will happen later, in a different place and it will be a different sort of happening”
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nada0101 said:
Whereas when Miles makes a prediction, it is plonked down on the table in PDF format; there it stays for a few years until proven true, e.g. Hawking as Davros 😉
I still expect Tesla to go under as also predicted by Miles — Musk is doing a great job.
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Jared Magneson said:
Tesla cut 9% of its staff back in 2018, and SpaceX just cut 10% of theirs a little while ago.
https://www.techspot.com/news/78239-spacex-cuts-hundreds-staff-after-their-last-mission.html
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Philip Cox said:
@nada101: RedefiningGoalposts would be a better moniker for that site.
I figured out his (their?) shtick early on but watched him for awhile to see how he would adjust his message to whatever is currently happening. And the one day he started link dropping Theosophy hard aaaaand that’s when he outed himself.
One cool project for a guest writer would be to watch one of these mis-directing spooks on youtube or somewhere and analyze how they work. You can learn a lot just by quietly observing once you know they are shills.
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nada0101 said:
“And the one day he started link dropping Theosophy hard aaaaand that’s when he outed himself.”
Lol. Flying the Red Flag! Yes, I would’ve laughed out loud myself at that point. Well spotted.
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Jared Magneson said:
Oh heavens, Tesla just cut another 7% of its staff.
https://www.techspot.com/news/78339-tesla-cutting-7-percent-workforce-road-ahead-difficult.html
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nada0101 said:
That’s so funny.
Hey Spooks! Miles has already predicted this Tesla kabuki so y’all don’t have to go through this staggered charade. Good grief. Just pull the plug already.
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helios22 said:
Thanks, LeakyGut. This site is interesting. So Fulford is controled opposition too. I’m not surprised, he is so optimistic ! Does “Ken” come here ? If you have some other interesting sites where I can get something to translate, please give me some links. I ask this to other lovely people of Josh’s site.
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Runar said:
Benjamin Fulford must be part of the family. Why else would he be allowed to interview David Rockefeller? They are not letting their security down.The interview has been online at YT a long time and it tells everything you need to know about him. See that lame attempt on showing some critic.
He is mostly known for referring to the imperial gangsters as a cabal, and making up news stories about banksters getting arrested in mass. His poison is like valium, never mind, they are getting as deserved, there are many mighty groups pulling them right away as you read this bla blah. I checked his stories some years ago and noticed there are some but a limited amount of sites that support and prints his drivel.
They are usually new agey.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
@Cancelled:
“…Curiously, somebody decided to rename it Jeddah Tower. To downplay the hubris perhaps. Who knows?!”
Another good catch, Cancelled. Here’s a few snippets of info on the Jeddah tower…
Originally designed as the worlds first ‘Mile-High’ tower until it was discovered the geology of the planned building site would only take a tower one kilometre high.
Completion cost est US$1.5 billion.
Main contractor is troubled Saudi Binladin Group.
Construction started 1 April 2013, completion date not known – no work done on tower for a year.
Jeddah is the Red Sea port which is the gateway to Mecca.
Jadda = Jeddah = Grandmother
The Tomb of Eve is in Jeddah – Eve is the grandmother of humanity.
So perhaps this tower was designed to be a symbol of the might of Saudi Royal Family, Islam and Jeddah – literally the grandmother of all towers. Nobody knows why progress on the tower has been stopped, perhaps it’s been hit by the same problem that stopped the Tower of Babel?
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Just noticed the construction start date adds to 11 and is All Fools Day. Not the best of omen for a world-beating construction project. Could be worth following the money, as the tower is reportedly 20% complete…
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cancelled said:
This is the version of Kingdom Tower I saw on the WEForum:
https://goo.gl/images/Sbv1aL
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Jared Magneson said:
That particular image does say “rendering of Jeddah Tower” beneath it, on Google.
“Jeddah Tower (Kingdom Tower) Facts and Information – The Tower Info
The Tower Info
The rendering of Jeddah Tower ”
But we could tell anyway, even if it wasn’t claimed. Notice the “artistic” lens flare about a third of the way down on the right? Perhaps its supposed to be a reflection/refraction glare, but it sure is in an odd spot since the sun is far to our right. That’s done in postwork (Photoshop) generally and you can usually spot the cheesiness of it.
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Jared Magneson said:
I think this may have come up previously, but here is the latest law in the US regarding discussion of Jewish history. It’s illegal now here, much like it is in Germany and other fake nations. Trump signed it into law 2 days ago.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/672/text
SECTION 1. Short title.
This Act may be cited as the “Combating European Anti-Semitism Act of 2017”.
SEC. 2. Findings.
Congress finds the following:
(1) During the past decade, there has been a steady increase in anti-Semitic incidents in Europe, resulting in European Jews being the targets of physical and verbal harassment and even lethal terrorist attacks, all of which has eroded personal and communal security and the quality of daily Jewish life.
And this graphic seemed appropriate as well, though I doubt its accuracy:
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DF said:
Oh bloody fek , I’m not on that chart at all .
I would say I’m anti-theist , but that chart would make a great place-mat at Irv’s Deli .
I’ll see you guys at the reeducation gulag I guess .
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nada0101 said:
Diagram looks like it got all the “big ones” spot on. I certainly think Islam is another product of Judaism. It came racing out of the Arabian Peninsular which was essentially Jewish at that time.
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DF said:
Nation of Islam then Shia then Sunni ? , well that’s looks like agitprop , gonna get someone mad for sure .
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Jared Magneson said:
Yeah, I shouldn’t have posted the pic with THAT post, since everyone will just focus on the pic now instead of the actual content – which is that all our talk of Jewish shit is now illegal, in the US. It just happened two days ago. Fascism at its finest.
I don’t say that to scare anyone and it certainly won’t stop me, but just be aware of what’s happening so you can be smart about it.
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Philip Cox said:
Reading that text it doesn’t appear it makes anything illegal. It just says they are going to ‘”report” on European Antisemitism and maybe do something about it? And why is America concerned with European Anti-semitism? Did they already pass a separate bill for the homegrown flavor?
Those silly rabbits. Is this suppose to scare us or something? Actually this makes it even more obvious now. As the saying goes..
Q: How do know who rules over you?
A: Whoever you are not allowed to criticize.
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Jared Magneson said:
I agree with you here entirely, and with Voltaire as well. WE here already knew who we weren’t allowed to criticize, but to indoctrinate it into law is yet another step towards absolute fascism in practice, not just in concept. It’s the Politically Correct, Social-Justice-Warrior bullshit progressing even further.
I sit corrected however, in that there are no direct consequences as of yet to this. No criminal ones anyway.
“To require continued and enhanced annual reporting to Congress in the Annual Report on International Religious Freedom on anti-Semitic incidents in Europe, the safety and security of European Jewish communities, and the efforts of the United States to partner with European governments, the European Union, and civil society groups, to combat anti-Semitism, and for other purposes.”
I was mislead and it’s my own fault for buying into the online hype. Thank you for pointing this out, Philip.
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Philip Cox said:
@Jared:
Sa’ll good, but as you said ‘yet’. It doesn’t mean it isn’t significant. They are definitely feeling the heat.
Also is the US drawing down the War on Terror? Might be related. I don’t watch the news but past few days I’ve read:
-US is pulling out of Syria
-US has been negotiating with the Taliban since December to pull out of Afghanistan
-VP Pence came out and said about ISIS “caliphate has crumbled” and the militant network “has been defeated.”(Pretty easy to defeat an “enemy” that never truly existed har har har..)
-Trump headlining with the Saudis about an “Islamic Reformation”
It’s about time I hope. The WoT isn’t selling anymore and if they break any more countries in the ME it might go too far and mess up their investments on the Saudi Peninsula.
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Jared Magneson said:
Regarding the Pence/Trump “pullout”, it’s funny that they said that and then just yesterday US troops were “killed” in a suicide bombing in Syria.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/01/16/syria-explosion-us-soldiers-killed-explosion-manjib/2591639002/
“A suicide bomber triggered a fiery explosion Wednesday that killed four U.S. citizens at a market in northern Syria, less than a month after President Donald Trump declared victory over Islamic State militants in the region.”
What’s even funnier about this is that I saw this same news event yesterday – and they’re saying it happened today. One might say that Syria’s clock is behind ours, but this I saw this more than a full 24-hours agooriginally, if not several hours longer. So we can safely assume this event was fake.
Today is Wednesday the 16th. Not yesterday.
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DF said:
Msm is saying one of the victims escaped the Sept 11th attack , that’s all I need to know it was staged ( I sure hope the folks in the video explosion weren’t actually victims though ) ,
and if ISIS would want US military out of Syria , why would they attack at all , that would put the brakes on a pull-out .
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cancelled said:
Was the new law broadcast on the mainstream media?
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Jared Magneson said:
I wouldn’t know. I saw it on social media, which I suppose is the same thing, but it was in a group dedicated to these topics not dissimilar to this one, albeit with far less accuracy and “freedom”. I cannot type Jew or Jewish on Facebook without catching a 30-day ban, though many other people can. I was flagged at some point or other, and have countless “haters” who will report my shit at the drop of a hat. We have to dance around the issues.
My guess this wouldn’t be in any mainstream news sources. People are too busy looking at Trump posing next to hundreds of hamburgers this week.
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Runar said:
On the freedom of speech today
https://rightoftheright.com/jews-get-fbi-to-conduct-warrantless-raid-on-gas-station-because-of-anti-israel-mural/
If you ever attend a congregation online as offline and wonder what kind of group it is, speak about Jews and see what happens.
Right of the right seems to be a new site, also having a section named fake right.
well, they look a little bit amateur compared to us. Maybe they would take contributions?
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ihatestarwars said:
@What kind of Jew are you? Chart
What about Calvinists and Reformed Unitarians (or something), Rastafarians and Jehovah’s Witnesses. Also those Zoroastrianists like Freddie Mercury. What do they come under?
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nada0101 said:
There’s your answer — Judaism comes in under Zorastrianism 😉
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ihatestarwars said:
I think must be a Ahmaddatyou because of my Sunny diss-position.
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GaryRP said:
Where’s “crypto”..?
😉
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DF said:
Lol , I’d say they all have hidden origins / histories .
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L Kinder said:
STYXHH.
Brexit Meltdown as Theresa May is Massively Defeated on Her Crappy Deal
StyxHH’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Styxhexenhammer666/videos
StyxHH seems to be somewhat astute, or woke, as can be seen in the video above, but I think he’s resistant to being more fully woke. He makes videos on the occult as well as on politics and I commented on one of his occult videos mentioning that Miles found that most of it originated just a few hundred years ago. He considered that untrue, but I don’t know if he checked out Miles’ paper on the occult. I also don’t remember if I gave him a link to the paper.
There are a bunch of optimistic-sounding shills like Fulford. The first one, no I mean the second, I heard of around 1999-2001 was David Wilcox (sic?). He was a member of Richard Hoagland’s forum, as was I. I discussed one or two things there with him and others. Hoagland then put the forum behind a pay wall, so I stopped participating, but I followed his website articles for a few years. Wilcox became a collaborator with Hoagland. He did a pretty good study for Hoagland against global warming by showing that many of the planets seem to be experiencing warming and other unusual weather etc. I came across Wilcox again around 2010 on a different website and he seemed to have some interesting info. But then I checked him out a little more and found that he had some months earlier begged for donations. He made optimistic predictions like Fulford, claiming that ETs or something were cleansing Earth of corruption. So it was only more recently that it was obvious he was a shill. Before Wilcox there was NESARA. I forget what it stood for, but you can do a net search. I think NESARA started in the late 1990s and it claimed that everyone in the U.S. was going to receive tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result of Clinton cleaning up the government and ending major corruption. Q-anon is now (or recently was) making similar predictions that Trump is putting an end to human trafficking and other major corruption.
Has anyone checked out Chabad? It’s said to be the main Jewish movement in the world and they seem to be preparing to rig events in order to make it appear that the Messiah is going to arrive and set up a Godly world government. Trump and Putin are said to be secret members of Chabad.
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Grace said:
Trump’s son in law, the snively Jared Kushner, is a member of the messianic cult, Chabad Lubavitz. Not such a big secret about Putin as he built a massive complex (Putin’s Palace) in an area very important to Khazarian history and it is said that Putin has his Chabad handler.
I’ve seen Styxx videos from time to time and his foray into the occult and defense of Trump makes me suspicious. Although I find him entertaining. Just like Brother Nathanael, critic of most things Jewish, is another – Miles told me in correspondence that he agrees Nathanael is amusing, but he’s a spook.
As for Wilcox, he outed himself immediately with those who have wisdom and discernment, as soon as he opened his mouth pushing the alien agenda. Anyone remember the late astronaut Ed Mitchell pushing the alien agenda? It was quite pathetic.
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