[This is the thread to discuss the current corona virus psy-op.]
From Las Vegas, Pittsburg, Thousand Oaks to Russian Collusion and the Khashoggi assassination, false-flag hoaxes, conspoofacies, fake murders and other manufactured events are running non-stop around the world and around the corner.
A reader wrote in to suggest opening a comment section devoted to discussing current (faked) events. I thought it was a good idea and would provide a place where people could chime in on what’s going on in the news and even offer evidence for why they think the event was faked, hoaxed, manufactured, etc. (or why not). Have at it, unless you think it’s a waste of your time–in which case, don’t!
Rajiv Sharma said:
Trigger warning: https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1711461334561272244
Is the killing of the dog at the start real? I don’t see blood, so is he firing blanks? I am amazed at how they fake this!
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suntzufighting said:
This whole operation is intended to justify a real war against the Palestinians(or even escalation beyond), i.e. people are going to die in huge numbers. Do you think they will be too squeamish to kill a dog for real?
Vox Day mentioned that US police routinely kill dogs during house raids. So Americans are slightly desensitized, but the scriptwriters haven’t realised it yet.
Even if zero people died in 9.11, the aftermath was a huge toll for Afghanistan and Iraq.
The game plan is a provocation(casus belli) followed by a ‘justified’ response out of all proportion.
So yeah, they shot a dog for real. Only fake part is that it was not Hamas(or as Bibi now says, Isis) that did it, but Sayaret/Amman operatives.
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A Spirit said:
Let’s hold on here for a second. Personally, I do think real damage is being done right now (assuming the additional embargo/blockades of Gaza are real) and I hate to dive into this but: how real is this war going to be if it goes to full-blown mode? How real was Afghanistan and Iraq? How real was Ukraine? How real was …Vietnam? And in what ways were they real and in what ways were they not? Now, after Miles’ and Lestrade’s discoveries we might want to ask ourselves stuff like this:
Say they invade Gaza. Even if “Hamas” has a total stand-down (or doesn’t even exist as irregular troops, being only a spook organization), surely the IDF is going to face some resistance? Or not? Will all normal Palestinians stand and watch some armed guys parade around while condemned buildings are being demolished by Hamas/Mossad while a theater department sets off some fireworks or sound bombs in random places? Isn’t it risky for the Israeli army to send troops to walk through there? Or are real Palestinians totally harmless? …I wouldn’t be surprised by anything. Just some thoughts. What do you guys think is going to really happen on the ground?
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rolleikin said:
As real (or not) as any war in the last few hundred years at least. The grunts don’t know what the real purpose is and they are armed so, yes, there will be some actual shooting, casualties and damage as usual.
It’s not easy to analyze chaos but we can deduce the gist of it all and spot the obvious media lies as they emerge.
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suntzufighting said:
If the mass vaxx is indeed a mass murder event, a couple hundred thousand dead in kinetic actions would definitely not be beyond the pale.
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A Spirit said:
@Suntzu
Of course. We know that the PNavy has no problem with mass murder. But the vaxx genocide was a controlled and targeted operation (or, at least, it was meant to be). Sending a bunch of propagandized bozos in an overpopulated territory of hostile and (allegedly) ballsy locals is a very chaotic thing. What if some IDF dude exceeds his commands and does something wild? What if real Palestinians retaliate in a big way? What if this escalates into a -Real War-? Ar e the PNavy ok with that? I think not. If they need to cull populations maybe they can do this (or are doing this) with the embargoes/”sieges”. But real face to face action doesn’t seem to me to be their way. These are control freaks we are talking about. Aren’t they afraid they might cause a real revolution in Gaza? Or a real revolution inside the ranks of the IDF?
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Philip Cox said:
After a few weeks the picture will be more clear.
The concert attack was surely faked. Their methods have become so predictable and formulaic by now, they admitted their guilt as soon as they published their fake victim list. Like a modern H-wood movie getting rewritten a dozen times before release, they are trying to mold long-planned hoaxes onto rapidly changing current events. It’s sloppy with a stitched together narrative, and we already hated it before release.
Current thought was that this was kicked off to keep Israel from backsliding into civil war, while rallying the remaining neocons for a final desperate fireworks display with Iran before their grand PNAC/Greater Israel plans run out of steam. This is 2023 and the old propaganda methods that tricked us into the ME won’t work this time. So what kind of J-word magic are the gonna pull in order to rally a broke and completely demoralized nation for another romp in the sand..? Drop some bombs and raise oil another $100 a barrel? Lets goooo!
My gut also tells me the spooks seem to be at war with themselves. Unz trying to throw Mossad under the bus while defending Bush on 9/11 is just that sort of stupid spook sophistry I would expect from one of their spats. I love going to that site just to see what kind of mental knots this Jewish controlled op are tying themselves in for their latest misdirection.
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Gerry said:
I am currently trying to decrypt a Talmud tractate about war. It’s old, of course, but it allows for hoaxed damage and also real damage and deaths, and acknowledges that full-fledged wars pose dangers even to aristocrats. This paraglider attack looks like it’s 100% hoaxed. I mean, c’mon. But generally, anything goes.
Money quotes from the Talmud:
“One can conceal one’s motives in a war with secretly dispatched troops, and can easily remove them. Also with marauders that are let loose, but one can not so easily remove them.”
“When one extinguishes servants because one was startled because of the crowds, or because of being seized, or because of commoners that would do harm, or if it was for the sake of the army to harden them up, then one is exempt from guilt.”
“Even rulers can die during hoaxes, for not being cautious when wandering about, and being slain after kindling the anger of the servants.”
“One must not endanger any lord. But if one has already started a war, one does not stop. One must stop to cover up the accidents of idiots, but does not stop for the idiots themselves.”
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Maria said:
I also see recent (< 24 hrs) posts from Josh on Twitter.
If people have not caught it yet, Josh was very recently interviewed by John Campbell on the different manufacturing processes used to manufacture the vaccine used in the clinical trial and the vaccine given to people after the trials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1Ivk6JYyE&ab_channel=Dr.JohnCampbell
This also relates to the DNA contamination found in vaccines as discussed by professor Philip BuckHaults in a senate hearing in South Carolina recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEWHhrHiiTY
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rolleikin said:
Controlled demolition of Israel apartment building at 4:25:
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rolleikin said:
OK, click on “Watch on YouTube” link
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miles mathis said:
Youtube is blocking my link, you better give us the URL.
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Philip Cox said:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2br1cXiG8”
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rolleikin said:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2br1cXiG8”
Building collapses straight down into its own footprint as we’ve seen numerous times with controlled demos.
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R T said:
They’re probably going to have some spooks point to this building as a refutation of the argument that the world trade center was a controlled demolition when in reality it’s just proof that this building was also a controlled demolition.
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rolleikin said:
Yes, or they will remove this footage entirely when they read the above posts so you might want to download it. 🙂
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Kevin said:
Makes the case that EVs are a trap https://blissandblisters.substack.com/p/the-ev-and-carbon-scam
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Lewis reid said:
I saw an old episode of Coronation Street from July 1971, and green fingered character Albert Tatlock said something like ‘Carbon is good for the soil…diesel, though, poisons the soil’.
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garrettderner said:
Looks like all cars in China are white.
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suntzufighting said:
The most half-hearted acting by a newsmodel I have seen in a long time. Almost as if it is below her dignity. She has a peerage surname after all.
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R T said:
That really is just a pitiful video, you’re right, it’s almost like she’s ashamed to be acting scared, almost like it goes against her feminist training, but it comes across as really robotic and like a show. Total garbage.
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virusmyth666 said:
Reminds of all the 1991 CNN fake coverage in the “first gulf war”, when CNN just appeared out of nowehere being heavily promoted including by other channels, and having almost exclusive coverage of the event.
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nyr5 said:
That’s where we got Wolf Blitzer. That alone is an Enormous crime..
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drew steele said:
“ Reminds of all the 1991 CNN fake coverage in the “first gulf war”….”
That was all the 1991 CNN “embedded journalists” keeping tv viewers & popcorn poppers glued to the tube with titillating “live reporting of war action”.
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Stephen said:
From Josh’s twitter:
“The massacre of children and civilians this past weekend should have been a jump the shark moment where supporters of Palestinian liberation reeled in disbelief and said to themselves “they’ve gone too far.” Instead, they loudly and proudly cheered on the vengeful bloodletting.”
“Yesterday evening, my wife got a message that a BA student in her department, Bruna Veleanu, was killed at the rave in Southern Israel on Saturday. Bruna was an immigrant from Brazil, and her only family in Israel was her sister and mother.”
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suntzufighting said:
Some more background from Josh:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1712063642542190593.html
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Philip Cox said:
Wow, what a show. Dual citizen IDF spooks.. all these girls.
“Valeanu, who reportedly served as a shooting instructor in the Israel Defense Forces” An 8 years marketing student, but also a shooting instructor? Who goes to school for marketing and communications for over 8 years?
“https://katv.com/news/nation-world/24-year-old-college-student-killed-by-hamas-terrorists-report-says-israel-palestine-terrorism-attack-invasion-middle-east-conflict-brazilian-brazil”
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Rajiv Sharma said:
It’s mandatory to serve in IDF for israeli citizens so I wouldn’t read too much into it.
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Philip Cox said:
I understand that, but everything else is pointing to her being more than just an IDF conscript. Everyone already knows Mossad and the IDF have a long history for hiring brigades of college girls for for their cyber warfare divisions. I think Josh cleverly admitted he’s just spinning a yarn with that one emote. A purple yarn at that. Given his position/status at university and his radio silence, it’s possible he’s been told/ordered to distance himself from CTTF and Miles.
He offered the moderation to me awhile back but I declined, citing I was too busy at the time with my girl having just moved in with me, but then I emailed him back months later, writing that I have time to pitch in. Never heard back from him.
Aaaand that’s why I’d rather move boxes for a living. Homie don’t play spook games. Let me know when ya’ll are finished playacting and actually begin fixing this broken planet.
That research group he was with during the height of convid.. I don’t know, but it read to me at the time he was being forced into a controlled op group. They were tossing Buddhism in there for some reason, and some other red flags.
I have since realized Gentiles are simply cancelled and will always be cancelled from any influential roles. So many in the alt-media outed themselves over the summer.. but the lay of the land has become even more clear.
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Rajiv Sharma said:
I could see that being a possibility, I am neither for or against it.
I wouldn’t read too much into the thread/yarn emoji either. It is used to signify twitter threads. He has used that emoji elsewhere in the past in his twitter posts too.
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Philip Cox said:
Always moderated at the most inconvenient time.
https://ibb.co/G0KGJ1w
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Rajiv Sharma said:
To clarify, i think the war is fake and the valeanu death is too. I was making more of a technical correction.
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Philip Cox said:
Missed it at first, but I like how Josh included the yarn emote. Now we just need a gif of it spinning..
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Russell Sackett said:
I think it’s thread, not yarn. As in the “thread reader” website/app.
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Maria said:
Written on October 11th with 8 tweets.
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R T said:
I just don’t understand how our Josh would write that post.
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rolleikin said:
Another video with what looks like demolitions at 0:20:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fnV18bFWB8”
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suntzufighting said:
https://www.tiktok.com/@eliteaf_wellness/video/7287629403272563999
It is even worse than controlled dems, they are re-using old footage of controlled dems 😜
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suntzufighting said:
Oohhh instantly blackscreened!
ttps://www.tiktok.com/@eliteaf_wellness/video/7287629403272563999
Left out my signature haitch in the url. See if it works.
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Stephen said:
Nice – I’m glad to see the younger TikTok generation sees through this crap. There’s still hope.
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suntzufighting said:
Wonder if his cousin was the Ghost ofKiev?
Just 44 years old, commander of Unit 888.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12608891/Respected-leader-Israelis-secretive-Ghost-commando-unit-killed-fighting-Hamas-officials-praise-bravery.html
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Rajiv Sharma said:
So they have some sort of blackout in Gaza. So now they will share a dark black screen titled “Heartbreaking images of World War 3”. And we won’t be able to refute that because a fight is really happening under the darkness. The propoganda gets tiring after a while.
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miles mathis said:
Color me gone.
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Rajiv Sharma said:
that’s unfortunate, Miles. I can understand your decision, given how Josh has been acting with you, on Twitter and his absence on this forum. Wish you health and look forward to read more fire papers from you!
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A Spirit said:
That’s the sign I was waiting for to decide what to do. To everyone: I think we know why we were hanging here: to discuss Miles’ papers and converse on the conclusions. Let’s decide where we are going to move -EN MASSE-. We shouldn’t let them win, because they have the chance to destroy this community NOW. Let’s discuss what to do. Is archer’s forum still running? Anyone care to give the link again?
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Amanda said:
“BREAKING Reports that Hamas wasn’t targeting civilians at the music festival – The IDF were shooting at Hamas FROM the crowd of civilians.
Civilians were caught in the crossfire.”
Maybe this is how Bruna Veleanu died.
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suntzufighting said:
This has a very Vegas smell to it.
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mantalo said:
“Color me gone.”
sorry, but is this an anglicism ?
what does it mean ?
gogol translator gives nothing clear : “Colorie-moi parti.”
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R T said:
It means he’s leaving this place for good, I presume.
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mantalo said:
why ? what happened ?
i don’t understand ?
is speaking about Josh forbidden ?
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Swathy Krishna said:
@ mantalo reply for you:
“https://ibb.co/25dXmWL”
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drew steele said:
I think the term – color me gone – dates to an old song from the 60’s, but like many things from pop culture, it eventually morphed into color me _____, IE. whatever your pop cult desires or delusions may be, you can instruct others to consider you THAT.
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mantalo said:
thanks a lots for your answers 🙂
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Swathy Krishna said:
@ mantalo image bb does not seem to work anymore. I couldn’t see an image that phillip cox uploaded earlier this day either. Try this link:
“https://i.postimg.cc/qMxpxFN7/IMG-20231012-215835.jpg”
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Gijs said:
I read it as another way of saying: mark me as “gone”
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A Spirit said:
@Amanda
“Maybe this is how Bruna Veleanu died”.
Oh come on now…
I repeat, I think we should start a discussion immediately about what we are going to do. We need a conversing place where Miles approves. Let’s get on with it. This is a call to everyone who was here for the reasons I was here.
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Swathy Krishna said:
It’s a good idea. Archers forum is full of trolls and miles hate, sorry to say. I don’t want to be there.
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drew steele said:
“ Archers forum is full of trolls and miles hate, sorry to say. I don’t want to be there.” ✔️
With the way WP displays the progression of posts to this forum, even with a measuring tape and a crystal ball, its often impossible to be sure to whom or what a given post is replying. At first blush, i took Miles’ “gone” post to mean he was done …. had enough with the way the Hamas/Israel discussion has unwound. But, if he really means he is done & gone from here, he’s already been an infrequent participant …. likely due to being plenty busy dividing his time and churning out new research. Either way, this is still a place to discuss his research, clearly sub-par forum operation but a somewhat functioning forum nonetheless.
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mantalo said:
did you notice that
Hamas Israel
is anagram of
I am sars heal
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Lewis Reid said:
@Mantalo
Or for short anagram: HAMAS = A SHAM
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Amanda said:
@Spirit, I know, but Josh is such a great guy, all over the vit A stuff, gave a lecture on it to PANDA, active on the deadly vax, the clinic trial bait & switch, I just don’t get it… there must be more to it.
😦
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suntzufighting said:
At least the confusion about Comirnaty is laid to rest now. We now know why the name was changed. Josh did some real work in meatspace while most of us here worked in cyberspace. I see no reason for abandoning this little outpost in cyberspace.
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Chris Ryska said:
@ suntzu, I agree. We really don’t know, or can appreciate, exactly what Josh is experiencing right now.
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R T said:
We should finding Josh’s cellphone number or office number and calling him. I want to get to the bottom of this. It begins to feel like his brain was taken over by a parasite or that his body was hijacked! I say this partly in jest, but really it’s like his entire personality changed at the start of 2022. What on earth happened here, and what’s the real story? I hope we can find out one day.
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Kevin said:
I’m trying to catch up – what did Josh post that is causing so much concern? Or is it just that he no longer participates in or moderates his own forum anymore?
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R T said:
Kevin he made a post on Twitter going along with this whole Israel war thing and playing into it entirely. It is the strangest thing I’ve ever seen, written in a voice that doesn’t even sound like the Josh we know.
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Kevin said:
Given this stale forum, his radio silence, and the fact that Akismet costs money, not sure why Josh doesn’t just shut down this site.
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A Spirit said:
I am grateful to Josh for all the good he has done. And he has helped me personally by putting me in contact with a rare poster of CTTF who helped me immensely with giving me a nice, clean diet. Nevertheless, I trust Miles to make an informed decision which, as I understand from his post, is to leave this place. I would like to be in a place (personally I prefer a blog like this to a forum, but that’s just me) where we can discuss Miles’ work, AND where Miles feels welcome to participate. That’s me. Anyone who agrees with me might want to proceed with this discussion? If Archer’s forum is corrupted by trolls, maybe the way is to start something at wordpress, perhaps?
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Kevin said:
Telegram is a decent platform with various moderation tools available but of course active admins would still be required for keeping the trolls out. There are existing Mathis channels, but a new one could be created seeded with this group’s members. Meanwhile, apparently Tokarski is dimming the lights over at POM https://pieceofmindful.com/2023/10/11/the-end-of-the-line/#more-106913
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Gijs said:
Many people have asked me to join their Telegram channels, but I can’t use Telegram on my computer unless I check in via a smartphone first, which I do not have.
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drew steele said:
I thought about Telegram in 2020 but i decided against because it requires access to the Contacts on the user’s smartphone. I did not have a spare smartphone with a watered down list of Contacts and i did not want to expose every contact on my phone.
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Gijs said:
@spirit: the link of the forum is:
h and tt and ps and all that, followed by
milesmathis.freeforums.net/
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Logan said:
Accessing Miles’s website: something may have changed, because it is still http: not https:.
This no longer works in my browser (Firefox): -http://mileswmathis.com/– ,
because “https://” gets inserted (by the search engine or browser?) which produces a 404 error message
I had to use –http://www.mileswmathis.com/– or just –www.mileswmathis.com–.
Same for the updates page; clicking on it from the main page may produce a 404 error. Instead use –http://www.mileswmathis.com/updates.html– .
Finally, clicking there on a paper update may produce an error if the browser or server inserts https:// again.
Instead type in (example for the latest paper) –www.mileswmathis.com/isra.pdf–
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Maria said:
I think the problem with this supposed war is that it’s hard to believe any of it. These people are notorious liars, and I wouldn’t trust them to tell me the right time. Any story can be fabricated and any video can be staged. We’ve just seen how they attempted to use CGI to fool us about the Maui fires.
Regarding the forum: It would be a shame to not be able to discuss things as I think this is just what they want us to do; stop talking to each other.
I am wondering if this supposed war is mostly about causing division and divide and conquer. At Twitter/X people are siding with one or the other side and quarreling with each other. People were uniting because of seeing through the Covid scam, but divisions are now appearing among them. I wonder if some of the controlled operatives for the Covid scam have now been tasked with fronting one or the other side of this supposed war in order to splinter it into different factions so that it is weakened and distracted from finding a common purpose. It’s strange to see how people on Twitter who have just recognized that they have been totally duped about Covid are now buying stories of this supposed conflict hook, line and sinker. Twitter is also contributing to the propaganda by adding “community notes” to posts telling people that claims about the war being fake are false. Another lesson of the Langley playbook.
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suntzufighting said:
You might like this, Maria:
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A Spirit said:
@Maria
Your approach is much calmer and I appreciate that. However:
1) What if someone pulls the plug before we have somewhere to migrate? Boom. We’re gone (That’s why I feel some urgency). 2) We were not divided over the war being real or not. I think we were more divided over the legitimacy of this place, for very good reason (I am watering this down as much as possible… to avoid causing infighting). 3) Of course we should continue to talk until we have a clean place to go (What’s the alternative? Shut up/leave?). But it has kind of a different feel now, no? 4) What about moderation? Legitimacy aside, what about writing in a place where the moderator seems to be unreachable/difficult to reach, but still moderates.
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Maria said:
I am not advocating for one forum over the other. I think having a forum to discuss controversial topics is a difficult issue in itself due to the various tactics employed by our adversaries, and I don’t know what is the best solution. I think this is a trial and error process. We will have to get creative.
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A Spirit said:
I agree with you. I also think it is a trial and error process which we will have to go through, but at least now we have our backs covered in case of a blackout, thanks to Swathy. Apologies if I sounded a bit rough. I just felt it was the right thing to rush things a bit, considering the situation.
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Amanda said:
@Maria Yes they are notorious liars and yes about the war causing division. It is amazing how quickly everyone takes sides – conops lead the way and people follow, left and right. Always the people against the people. Never the people against the ruling elite.
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suntzufighting said:
Some powerful alliteration going on here:Dozens of Dead babies.
No mention o cannibalism. Yet.
You guys taking note in the sub-basement? How is that for a new plot element?
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Trimmel said:
Hey A Spirit,
Nice that my diet worked. I’m still here reading all your messages. I think it is the perfect time to write something to you because I could’nt reach you on your email adress anymore.
I Just have to correct something from my list, because I found out a little more in the past years. Pepper is big a no no, it is similar to the retinol molecule and stress your liver similar. Aubergines are pretty shitty night shades and belong to the no go list. Seed oils are mostly garbage because polyunsatuated fatty acid turn into molandialaldehyde what shut down you aldehyde detox (including retinaldehyde from vit a). I go now only for refined coconutoil and do great.
My diet focus now more around Rice (Well washed and cooked
with a lot of water because of the arsene content/White beans, apples , bananas oats and meat. I wish you all the best and If a new forum will be created I will be more active again. I admit that i was a little annoyed of the wordpress conditions/style and moderation and therefore I left. My english in general is also not that great. I appreciate still all of miles work, and this talk here and hope you/we can continue somewhere else. I also hope that Josh turn his face into the light again soon and align himself to the truth. He saved my life in the past.
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R T said:
This is basically my diet as well and it has greatly improved my health in the last year. Following Grant Genereux’s diet principles.
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A Spirit said:
@Trimmel
I honestly appreciate your help, man. Apologies for the e-mail, a lot of pretty difficult stuff had been happening with my personal life during that period and I saw it but I eventually neglected to answer. I will contact you soon as I, too, have some questions to ask you. Thank you again for your support!
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suntzufighting said:
Why aren’t he Israelis baying for Bibi’s head? Since this is their darkest hour(again), who was asleep at the helm? Intelligence failure exacty like 50 years ago. Even forewarned by Egyptian inteligence. Exactly like 50 years ago. Sharks. Jumping. With frikkin lazer beamz.
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Lewis reid said:
New Lestrade paper about the Shamass, oops, Hamas at Kafar Aza:
Click to access 40babies.pdf
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A Spirit said:
From Lestrade’s addendum
“I proved Pearl Harbour was fake for goodness sake! Yet:
crickets. You’d think an American would care.”
@Lestrade
I am not an American but I do care, we here care, and I would even go to the risky hypothetical lengths to say that you might have single-handedly prevented (or put immense negative pressure on) the possibility of the PN executing some large scale fake of US vs China. That’s how important I think you work has been.
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nyr5 said:
I am an American, and I can only add I’ve known about Pearl Harbor since reading John Toland’s book in 1982. It is important, but not new, just my 2 cents
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suntzufighting said:
Never heard of Toland, so I asked the oracle. Very implausible backstory.
Could this be an ancestor:
https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Toland
He positively reeks of spookery. Sowing dissent and doubt in Christianity, writing backstories for the jews, cosmopolitan education etc. Haven’t checked thepeerage.
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nyr5 said:
My initial reply is stuck in limbo, so I will try again. I hadn’t seen that Lestrade update about Pearl Harbor prior to my responding to it, which was bad enough on my part, but I missed it and SHOULD have responded that I read Tolands book in 1982 and realized the Official Story of PH was Crap. NOT that it was fake. Today I am not surprised, and as Miles has pointed out time and time again, they want you arguing WHO did it, not did it even happen?
Mea Culpa, my bad
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Philip Cox said:
The remaining 5% of the population that still reads in America does care!
As a Midwest Millennial who grew up on a steady diet of the Hitler (History) Channel, owning a mini WW2 library during highschool, and was into way too many WW2 vidya games, it took me a couple weeks to digest your first paper Lestrade, but I get it now. All wars are vertical and mostly theater of one type or another.
Keep up that meme and shit-posting style of writing though. That’s the right kind of attitude that will get the kids reading again. Miles is the ultra sigma chad they need.
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chandra2021 said:
https://forward.com/israel/206371/foreign-workers-now-teach-jews-how-to-farm-on-the kibbutz/ article from 2013
I am surprised to hear that there were jewish people in the kibbutz
Kfar Aza. And in the other settlements where Hamas supposedly flew and motorcycled in.
Years ago I learned that migrant workers run the 270 kibbutzim in Israël. Since twenty years or longer. No more idealistic cq poor volunteers or young Zionists. Or socialist Israeli’s.
Most workers from Thailand. Which country made an agreement with Israel to provide cheap contract labour.
https://www.touristisrael.com/what-is-a-kibbutz/6053/I
The once idealistic settlements nowadays are privatized.
The Kibbutzim together provide 10% of BNP. (One very prosperous settlement works a diamonds cuttlery.). Also many kibbutzim have hotel facilities.
Forward:
” According to Marjorie Strom, a researcher at the Arava Institute for Environmental Studies, about 95% of Israel’s agricultural kibbutzim today rely on foreign workers. As for the exceptions, “You can count them on the fingers of one hand,” she said. “Maybe two.”
Most of Israëli’s foreign farm workers come from Thailand, through an agreement between the Thai and Israëli governments that allows them to work in the agricultural sector for a maximum of five years. Once those five years are up, they return to Thailand, where the money they’ve earned in Israël goes far.’
(Also undocumented workers from Eritrea and Sudan).
I have worked on a kibbutz in the eighties. A highly militarised land.
Israel is as small as New Jersey. A tiny country, without even a constitution. It is more a military base. Operating with cruel and shameless Apartheid. Is supposed to be a beacon of democracy.
A large supply of gaz found in the Gaza territorial waters was immediately seized by the Israeli government. To further humiliate and starve the Palestinians.
And the whole world lets this happen.
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Amanda said:
Not a lot of sympathy in the comments section.
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mantalo said:
if it’s only a “jeunocide”, it’s less severe than covid which was not only a jeunocide but also a “viococide”
(untranslatable)
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Benjamin said:
To make a new forum, I’d imagine it is not terribly difficult to link a discourse forum (not to be confused with discord) to either a WordPress site, or even just your own server. Discourse is free and open source. Needs a little bit of tech know how to set up, but there are online tutorials for that. Why not me? I checked out of here with all the moderation, and haven’t enough motivation to be a forum admin.
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Swathy Krishna said:
I’ve just made a very basic wordpress page, check it out. There may be ads though. Let me know if I should make any changes.
“https://mathisianhaven.wordpress.com/”
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Amanda said:
@Swarthy, Miles needs to write another paper so we can christen your site. I think this could work.
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Gijs said:
@Swathy: I would say: keep it simple.
Will there eventually be a comment-section just like this one here?
And about what you said earlier: “Archers forum is full of trolls and miles hate, sorry to say. I don’t want to be there.”
Ok, that’s a pity. But it’s not “full of Miles hate”. Yes, some people very dissapointed in CTTF came there to vent their spleen, and we kept everything up, not deleting anything I think.
I think the biggest problems with Archer’s Forum were too little trafic for too many threads.
But it’s right there and you don’t have to post 5 times before something appears.
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Swathy Krishna said:
I made the site in case commenters would like to move to a similar site or in the event of this site getting shut down. Archer is a cool guy, but one of the threads on his forum is literally a “Why Miles is a Jerk” list, and it’s still up for some reason. As for the traffic reason, everytime someone posts, I get asked for approval. This way, comments need not permanently disappear into moderation.
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Gijs said:
On Archer ‘s forum anyone can start a new thread. That’s also why I wrote: “Keep it simple”.
So you’re going to moderate every single comment personally by hand? Could become very much I gather. And I see now a comment-section has opened on your site, so see you there.
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mantalo said:
Swathy,
I can’t reach your site…
when i copy the url *https://mathisianhaven.wordpress.com/*, gogole brings me back on cttf
help 🙂
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Swathy Krishna said:
Don’t use google. In DuckDuckGo it shows up fine. I’ll post the link regardless:
https://mathisianhaven.wordpress.com/
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Swathy Krishna said:
Even normies are of the opinion now that Google is completely useless. It never shows you the results you want, instead it pulls up random AI results that make no sense. Also it censors Miles. Reason enough to avoid it.
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mantalo said:
Thank you very much 🙂
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suntzufighting said:
Cashing in for some walkabout money?
No mention of any influence of the weekend’s hapoenings.
https://news.artnet.com/market/rothschild-christies-new-york-2377093
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rolleikin said:
A very curious portent but of what, I wonder?
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suntzufighting said:
In boxing, when your next parry of blows is apparent to your opponent, it is called ‘telegraphing’.
Well, here is The Telegraph living up to its name:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/14/hamas-israel-new-world-order-middle-east-iran-saudi-russia/
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Kevin said:
“Eight days later, Hamas began an attack that resulted in the deaths of more Jews than on any day since the Holocaust.”
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John C. said:
Updates on http://mileswmathis.com/isra.pdf and http://mileswmathis.com/40babies.pdf
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drew steele said:
10/24, another new paper from Miles on 10/21- ‘Sad Songs’
I’d like to add a fairly new song that meets at least one or more elements that make for a song really good for venting some built-up sadness & grief.
“https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OLWvLObF2Fw” in which the author/performer relates her virtual acquaintance with another author who told the story of his aged grandmother. Somewhere in that there was the story of Tally.
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rolleikin said:
For anyone who cares, it’s looking like the actors strike will be continuing for a good deal longer. The producers returned to the bargaining table this past week only to offer the actors LESS than they had originally. They would not listen to any counter offers and left the proceedings with no agreement reached.
The big studios steadfastly refuse to pay actors anything for the continued use of actors’ computer-processed performances that the studios can profit from forever.
There may not be a lot of sympathy for Hollywood actors here but please keep in mind that 90% of actors union members earn poverty level income as it is. The big peerage-born stars cut their own deals which often include a share of profits from their projects anyway. The vast majority of actors are not in this club. How would you feel about someone profiting forever on some work you performed for which you were only paid for one day’s work? Wouldn’t you feel you deserve at least a tiny percentage?
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garrettderner said:
New Ottawa rally getting underway:
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Swathy Krishna said:
My earlier comment went into moderation. Check out Josh’s new tweet:
“https://twitter.com/joshg99/status/1713669044866331081”
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rolleikin said:
In the page linked to in Josh’s “X” post (the one with the alleged video/image links of casualties) I couldn’t get anything visual to show on the first several links.
Then, the link to the scene with cars and bodies did produce a video which looks fake as hell. Several “bodies” strewn about on the road and in cars. I couldn’t see one drop of blood or anything that looked like a wound of any kind. The car windows were broken and there were some dents in the metal work but I saw no bullet holes or any evidence of firearms or ordnance. They just looked like people lying down in the road all neat and clean.
That video link is then repeated five or six times with the links that follow and I got tired of the nonsense and quit looking.
You know, Josh said the “pandemic” was real too until others overwhelmed him with contrary evidence. He said he knew it was real because his father was a doctor of some importance treating the stricken. He quickly changed his tune, however.
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Chris Ryska said:
@ Roleikin, I had a similar experience with a friend whose sister is a nurse. She totally sold him on the fakodemic at the beginning, which made me just throw up my hands. He’s just now starting to see what was transpiring the whole time.
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rolleikin said:
All well and good … but now we have this new situation.
That video he linked to that I mentioned above looks really fake to me.
I mean … WTF?
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Swathy Krishna said:
The whole thing reminds me of the ‘Kevin’ situation a few years back.
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Vexman said:
The most worrisome piece of info about this particular blog is the number of fingerprinting attempts executed each and every time I try to access it. The counter just goes wild even though each and every WP website is laden with this kind of attacks against visitors.
For instance, if you try to reach my blog, the counter goes to cca 150 fingerprinting attempts, but at CTTF it goes to 1000+ such attempts! Just crazy.
You can google search what this fingerprinting means – it’s no good by any means. I really don’t know what happened here and why this is so, but it is extremely suspicious. I never had an illusion that there’s any kind of privacy while using the web in general since all this cyber space is a military invention. But anyway, some web sites are obviously honey traps.
I’m thinking about relocating my own blog to a secure web platform, which is quite a challenge if I want to migrate all of the comments along with the content. Keep it safe, guys and gals.
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notabaron said:
so far mathisianhaven is working ok, if josh is going full IDF, I am out
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Swathy Krishna said:
Most modern websites like WordPress will have n number of trackers bloating it just to get analytics (and to spy on you). You should think about setting up your own website like miles which can be ad and tracker free, created with plain HTML and minimal css, which looks good and is easy on the eyes, and will load almost instantaneously. If you host on a good vps you’ll be immune from censorship. Luke smith has good videos on the topic on YT.
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Kevin said:
“But anyway, some web sites are obviously honey traps.”
Yep – I’m certain “they” catalog us all into some type of “heat map” based on our comments at sites like this and other more well-known ones, like ZeroHedge, Reddit, etc.
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Gerry said:
@Vex, if you just want to preserve existing comments, I’d just make static snapshots of each page including the comments, and serve that as static HTML files. I also opted for a static website generator for my own site. I just upload the new HTML files every other month or so. I think all this Web X.0 crap is just making things needlessly complicated, raises the cost to entry for the web, and shepherds everyone towards the big platforms.
Now if you want to continue to have live comments, that’s probably difficult without using existing platforms or their software packages, because of the spambots & trolls. There should be less compromised open-source packages for everything though.
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suntzufighting said:
In broader terms, just found this.
‘Holism and Evolution’ by superspook Jan Smuts, written about a century ago, is now given hard science credentials.
As to his spook status, he did write a thesis on Walt Whitman when at Cambridge. That is the least of it. Wish Miles could take a dig at him.
https://phys.org/news/2023-10-scientists-philosophers-nature-evolutionary-law.html
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voodooville said:
In evolution theory is it better to be adaptable to circumstances, or is it better to specialize for an ecological niche, and lose adaptability?
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Chris Ryska said:
@ voodooville, Good question. Think about the Bombadier Beetles: They store the explosive chemicals in separate chambers until they feel threatened. And as it mixes them together it uses a toner so it doesn’t blow itself up. How does something like that even evolve? After blowing itself up over millions of years it finally adapted?? Wouldn’t evolution in this case be counterintuitive to begin with??
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voodooville said:
That is something to think about.
Most of evolution logic seems circular.
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suntzufighting said:
Shindler. Without the ‘c’.
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mantalo said:
i’m the only one to read foenX in foxNe-ws ?
but it’s not the purpose
i just want to say that this shindler will not solve the overpopulation problem…
man of poor conscience 😦
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N. said:
I never thought “Fox News/Phoenix.” But now I’ll consider it.
I was looking up George Jessel and found mention of this movie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phynx
Looked like Phoenix to me, but they pronounce it “Fink” in the movie, which is an (obviously hilarious) comedy. The cast is a Sgt. Pepper type mix of all kinds of celebs. Just noticed that the running time is 81 minutes.
There are clips on Youtube. I did like seeing the geriatric Bowery Boys.
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Rajiv Sharma said:
miles updated his latest paper to comment on josh and cttf: http://mileswmathis.com/isra.pdf
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chandra2021 said:
Josh G. was interviewed by John Campbell on October 4th 2023.
Six days ago. On injections, vaccines, Pfizer etc. Here Josh sounds very coherent.
He might have been talking too much on this well-known channel with 3 million subscribers.
In the perception of Big Pharma/ Big Elite/ Big War Addicts/ Small Crazy WEF.
Israel is such a small so called country. That is to say: a sort have: a country without a constitution…Is that even allowed?) IMO more a large western military base.
With 9 million inhabitants. People know each other.
I cannot imagine that a courageous and intelligent criminologist of his stature suddenly believes the MSM.
Maybe some people visited him (and his family) and advised him to shut up. Maybe drugged him also (which may explain the stuttering, strange speech in later interview). Replaced him. For some time? That is very scary. But I am afraid that this happens more than we assume.
During WW2 there where many fake events and hoaxes.
But also many disappearences of truthtellers. And other innocents.
Can someone safe/copy this interview? I am such a digital illiterate that I can’t..
Keep the faith. In time of crises masks go off.
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chandra2021 said:
Sorry: video was made two weeks ago. Not six day ago.
(I have the flu. My head is not clear).
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Rajiv Sharma said:
Looks like miles is becoming popular amongst the kids. https://www.tiktok.com/@alongcameabby/video/7151544308921879850 this kid says that van gogh might have faked his death. She also says a lot of people fake their death. Interesting.
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chandra2021 said:
Maybe the link op up. It is funny and cute.
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Rajiv Sharma said:
We’re all chatting on https://mathisianhaven.wordpress.com/ btw, incase you were wondering about the silence here.
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chandra2021 said:
Thank you. Have flu, could not think straight. Thought move would be later. Feels a bit unreal…actually.
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Chris Ryska said:
Her parents had already been schooling her about that obviously.
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