[This is the thread to discuss the current corona virus psy-op.]
From Las Vegas, Pittsburg, Thousand Oaks to Russian Collusion and the Khashoggi assassination, false-flag hoaxes, conspoofacies, fake murders and other manufactured events are running non-stop around the world and around the corner.
A reader wrote in to suggest opening a comment section devoted to discussing current (faked) events. I thought it was a good idea and would provide a place where people could chime in on what’s going on in the news and even offer evidence for why they think the event was faked, hoaxed, manufactured, etc. (or why not). Have at it, unless you think it’s a waste of your time–in which case, don’t!
Boris Tabaksplatt said:
@nada0101:
“Yes, I see that it isn’t about AI, it is about drones with weapons — weaponized bipeds and quadrupeds; wheeled and winged; burrowing and soaring death hummers. What about the batteries though, there is some form of battery-bottle neck, right?…”
The lack of a suitable power source is the biggest problem to overcome before a robot can function as well as a man, even if we get working AI working sufficiently to make therm truly autonomous. This is perhaps why DARPA stopped funding Boston Dynamics and Alphabet got rid of all its robotics research acquisitions in 2016/17, selling most of them to the Japanese SoftBank conglomerate. Here’s the new head of robot research,,,,
He is Masayoshi Son, the founder and CEO of SoftBank corporation, and is likely a spook as well. His bio appears just unlikely as Gates, Jobs, Musk et al and, you guessed it, he went to Berkeley University. His net worth is estimated at USD 23 Billion and is ranked number 39 on the Forbes list of The World’s Billionaires 2018.
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anna said:
Neither here nor there but kind of interesting:
Last night my sister and I were discussing Tim Roth . My sister admires him whilst I loathe the man with his psuedo Cockney accent . I said in passing that there was only one possible reason why he’d ‘made it’ as an actor . She rolled her eyes and whipped out her phone. She was going to prove me wrong. And she did just that . Sort of :
WIKI snip.
‘’…………Roth was born in Dulwich, London, the son of Ann, a painter and teacher, and Ernie, a Fleet Street journalist, painter, and member of the British Communist Party until the 1970s
His father was born in New York with the surname “Smith”, but changed his surname to the German/Jewish “Roth” in the 1940s, “partly through solidarity with the victims of the Holocaust, partly because the English were far from welcome in some of the countries to which his job took him.
Roth attended the Strand School in Tulse Hill. As a young man, he wanted to be a sculptor and studied at London’s Camberwell College of Arts……………”
First question. Why didn’t Ernie just place ‘Gold’ in front of his name for ‘solidarity?’
As is very often the case there is no record of a Timothy Simon Roth born 1961 but there is a Simon T Roth. It’s amazing how OFTEN these names are transposed . HIS mother’s maiden name was ROTH.
Just found that interesting and I’m not convinced that I’m TOTALLY wrong.
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ihatestarwars said:
Or add Schild to Roth?
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/drotske-recovery-almost-a-miracle-set-to-go-home-20181203
47 year old Springbok ‘Naka’ Drotske was critical but now his recovery is ‘almost a miracle’. After he tackled 3 armed guys to keep others from harm, and took 3 bullets. No one else was shot. The 47 springs out at you.
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rolleikin said:
Roth’s first acting job was the starring role in a TV movie. He had no apparent prior acting experience. He didn’t even study acting in college, according to his bio.
He just woke up one morning a nobody and went to bed that night a movie star.
I guess it must have been a miracle. 🙂
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Russell Taylor said:
“I guess it must have been a miracle”
I can’t stand most actors cos they couldn’t act if you held a gun to their head.
Just a few stand out as superb. I include Roth in that category. His very early stuff was a little suspect but some of his later gems like the dandy swordsman in the film Rob Roy was nothing short of superb.
You can always tell a good actor by the stuff they do between lines. When everyone else is speaking and they are just, in the background. Roth is always moving around and doing stuff, acting out the role 100% all the time. That is one of the signs of a great actor.
Di Caprio might be from the families but at least he can act out a strong character better than most. I think he delivers stunning performances. Django in Chains is a prime example where he actually cut his hand yet carried on as if it were written into the script. And his performance in Revenant was brilliant.
Gary Oldman joins these two in my top 5 all time truly great actors.
Most other so called actors look and sound like the same actor playing the same character in every role….just awful to point of being embarrassing to watch! A bit like Shatner in the early Star Treks. Almost barf inducing.
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DF said:
” Di Caprio might be from the families but at least he can act out a strong character better than most. I think he delivers stunning performances….”
Yes he is quite good , but I was rooting for the Mama bear to eat him in ‘ The Revenant ‘ , I guess that would have made the film too short ….
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Jared Magneson said:
In my favorite gangster(spook)-film, “The Departed”, DiCaprio quite blatantly demolished every other actor or actress (except Vera Farmiga, duh) and stood out as actually TRYING. Nicholson sucked. Damon is always a dickhead. Marky Mark was rad but obviously didn’t have to “act” at all. But DICAPRIO… you can feel his feelings. He shines, and makes it worth watching all the spooky stuff.
And of course, at the end, they outright tell you it’s all a spook show. Much like in Smokin’ Aces, which was Ryan Reynold’s best piece in much the same way.
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C Stayton said:
Interesting fact about DiCaprio: his great-grandfather was Pyotr Smirnov, the founder of Smirnoff vodka. Wikipedia tells us he was born a serf in a rural Russian village and became one of the wealthiest men in Russia. We’re also told his family lost control of the business and dissolved into obscurity. Obviously that’s misdirection. We’re supposed to believe it’s just a coincidence that, three generations later, the Smirnovs produced one of the most famous actors of all time.
Not surprisingly, you won’t find it admitted *anywhere* on the internet that DiCaprio descends from the Smirnovs. But it’s right there on Tim Dowling’s genealogy site:
https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&p=pyotr&n=smirnov
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Josh said:
In what way did your friend even come close to proving you wrong? The story of his dad changing his name to seem more Jewish and less British makes ZERO sense. It sounds upside-down. In what countries are the British less welcome than Jews? And if he wanted to sound Jewish, why not pick a more obviously Jewish name?
We have an abundance of additional clues here. Both of his parents were artists, which we can assume meant MODERN artists. And if they were making a living as modern artists then we can bet they were connected. His dad is described as a ‘Fleet Street journalist.’ Fleet Street is in the always spooky City of London, and together with journalist indicates he was a propagandist connected somehow to finance. He moved from New York to London to work and maybe live on Fleet Street, indicating someone connected and of considerable means. Not exactly the type of person you’d expect to be joining the communist party, membership in which is also a huge red flag (especially to the extent it is worn as a badge of honor). Plus, let’s face it, the guy looks Jewish as can be.
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Russell Taylor said:
Looks like a dog, barks like a dog and is called Fido but still became a great actor.
Josh….please leave me some morsels to actual admire. Don’t continue Miles destruction of everything I have ever admired in music, TV and film.
I am truly having a hard time trying to watch anything. But like my wife says, ‘just take a breath and enjoy the film’!
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nada0101 said:
Impossible! I was watching “Where Eagles Dare”, the scene at the start were all the military spooks are being briefed about the supposed mission, and shouted out “So that’s why there is an Admiral in charge — Naval intelligence has seniority as stated by Miles!”. Okay, it was more like “Well f**kin’ look at that”.
Anyway, shows the filmmakers knew their stuff, if you know what I mean? 😉
Still a fabulous movie although completely stupid at the same time. I suspect it should be filed under “kosher porn” as per “Inglorious Basterds”. The sound track is for all time.
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Josh said:
Your wife is right. Whether or not someone is from the families or not doesn’t really get in the way of my ability to enjoy it. As long as their acting or singing or musicianship is high quality, I am able to overlook the fact that they got where they are through nepotism–with a few exceptions like the Beatles. I don’t share your taste in actors, but that’s fine. You can like what you like and I can like what I like.
I recently saw a documentary on a duo called 2cellos. My kids play the cello and we had seen them in concert. They are two genuinely talented fellows. One from Slovenia the other from Croatia. On the basis of the documentary I would say they seem to have gotten where they’ve gotten not on the basis of family connections. But even if they did it doesn’t matter to me that much because they are truly very talented and entertaining. But until I saw that documentary I had just assumed they were connected, which is what I do with everyone.
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cancelled said:
I go into a bank, and I’m told, “You can do all this online.” On the radio, they’re pushing online shopping and curbside delivery, where your goods are put into your locked vehicle for you, with an app. I shop in a department store, and there, too, the inventory is limited, so they arrange for me to get what I online, and have it sent to me. On the radio, they’re waxing poetic about how, soon, all my necessary documents ( drivers license, proof of insurance, vehicle registration,etc) will be paperless cyber on an iPhone.
I recently had a change of address and went online to renew my drivers license. At the end of the session, I wondered, why did I have to even bother doing this? They already knew my tag number, insurance provider, new address, old address, social security number, license number. (Yes, of course, it was an excuse for getting money.)
When I moved house the previous time, before I had a chance to update my records with my bank, I found the bank already had my new address on record. I rang them, and asked, who updated my address? I didn’t do it. (They didn’t know.)
This is creepy.
Question: given this level of surveillance, why do we need to worry about terrorists? Unless it’s a one-man-band, lone wolf, how would they organize? Smoke signals? Carrier pigeons?
Reading the signs, the plan seems to be the elimination of retail shops, and banking branches. People won’t have to go anywhere (except to work, perhaps). Online food shopping, and home delivery, is being pushed, too. Confined to home, tagged with an iPhone, loss of autonomy with driverless cars — sounds a lot like an open prison to me.
It seems to me there could come a time when the vast majority of people will have nothing to do but sit on their hands. Talk about a terrible waste of natural resources! Human potential, if given a chance to express itself, is a precious resource of invention, imagination, and energy. To seek to confine it, squash it, sicken it, blind it to reality, constrain it, shackle it — call it what you will — is heinous. (In fact, the phrase crimes against humanity comes to mind.)
I dread to think what will happen to the human spirit, to the irrepressible impulse humans have for activity. You only have to observe children : they cannot be still they are so full of life force and curiosity. Or to think of your own self. What compels you to climb a tree, write a poem, ride your bicycle up a hill, climb a mountain, read a book, plant a garden, or as I’m doing now, write a comment?
I suppose people could devote a great deal of time and energy trying to make two plus two equal five.
What will be the fate of Homo sapiens if and when there is no outlet for the innate intelligence that defines this beautiful, magnificent species?
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Crow's Nest said:
“Reading the signs, the plan seems to be the elimination of retail shops, and banking branches. People won’t have to go anywhere (except to work, perhaps). Online food shopping, and home delivery, is being pushed, too. Confined to home, tagged with an iPhone, loss of autonomy with driverless cars — sounds a lot like an open prison to me.”
Your post reminds me of the Pixar film Wall-E. Perhaps the film serves us as foreshadowing: an advanced computer system micromanages humans on a space ship and keeps them fat, dependent and endlessly entertained.
I don’t think we’ll ever end up on space ships, or that we’ll develop self-aware computer systems (good luck replicating consciousness), but I do think we’ll be subjected to advancing micromanagement by control freaks in power. They’ll continue to worship at the alter of technology because new tech helps them improve their efficiency.
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cancelled said:
The obesity is being caused by the “food.”
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cancelled said:
All this human energy that is not part of the plan has been taken into account, and is being dealt with. Because what happens when you bottle up energy? You get an explosion. And we can’t have that. So you need to dilute all that pesky energy.
You do that by compromising the physical integrity of human beings, so their bodies and reproductive systems don’t work properly, or not at all. Hence the dumbing down, the weakening, the poisoning, the medicating, and the genetic corruption that is being practiced right now, courtesy of the chemical, plastics, and pharmaceutical industries who give us fluoride, chlorine, glyphosate, BPA and 1,000 other endocrine disrupting chemicals, and antidepressants in our food, water, personal hygiene products, perfumes, scented candles, toothpaste, non stick cookware, plastic containers, cash register receipts — to name a few.
If you think I am exaggerating, or being alarmist, do some research. I started out with Professor Emeritus Don Huber on glyphosate, lecturing to the farmers at the Grassfed Exchange. “About six months ago, the German Legislature passed a bill that parents no longer have to declare the sex of their child at birth. You think, what a dumb bill. Can’t they look and see what the plumbing is? You can’t. There are so many births where you can’t tell because of that [endocrine] disruption. We see that also with Atrozine….”
I verified for myself this German legislation, and found that along side the traditional sex classification of infants is a third category, “diverse.”
I then went onto research endocrine disrupting chemicals and found Dr Frederick Vom Saal, an endocrinologist who has been publishing research for over 20 years on the long term consequences for the brain and reproductive organs of exposure during fetal life to man made and naturally occurring endocrine disrupting chemicals. There are several lectures by him addressed to various scientific communities on YouTube (leaching of chemicals from dental sealants; from plastics) and there are scores of peer reviewed papers by him as well as other medical researchers you can access on the NIH website. Key words are “epigenetic” and “teratogens”
Vom Saal lists the many human disease trends caused by the ubiquitous plastic BPA, one of which I had to look up: hypospadias. That took me into a minefield I almost wish I hadn’t entered — the Disorders of Sexual Development minefield. It’s related to Huber’s comment about babies being born where you can’t tell what the sex is. There are nearly 30 genital deformities among the “disorders”, (most of which prevent the victims from reproducing) ranging from aphallia to — and this addresses MsWinkle’s earlier comment under the film Junior — Persistent Mullerian Duct Syndrome:
“If a male (46X Y) fetus has Persistent Mullerian Duct Syndrome … the male will develop and grow the usual male structures internally and externally, but in addition, he will also develop some internal structures that are female-typical. These may include a uterus and Fallopian tubes….”
So, you see, it may be possible for a “male” (whose sexual development has been deformed/warped/disorganized by fetal exposure to chemicals) to carry and give birth to a child. So once again, with the film Junior, Hollywood seems to be conditioning us for the brave new world of the future.
(If you want to research this, use the term “intersex.” Or see the Accord Alliance website.)
So now we get to the heart of the matter, in my opinion, about all this gender bending business. To make a long story short, what I see going on, is an attempt to cover up deformities from chemical exposure during fetal development through obfuscation and normalization. First of all, these aberrations of development are not to be called deformities. The word is never uttered. The child with ambiguous genitalia, or no genitalia, is just “different”, or “atypical.”
There’s a whole script about how to manage horrified, distraught parents. How to train naturally horrified delivery room staff from showing their horror. How to accept this as, not as uncommon as you think, we see it all the time. There’s everything but, what the hell is going on here? Why are so many children being born with deformed sexuality?! Could it be because then somebody, or something, would have to be held accountable?
The attempt at normalization is being done through spinning the meaning of the word “gender.” That word used to mean, male or female. Now, it’s being engineered to mean:
“Gender is about who you feel yourself to be. When you say “I’m a man” you are stating your gender identity. Gender is the term we use for how a person feels about himself as a boy/man or feels about herself as a girl/woman.
“Q: Does having a Y chromosome make you a man? Does lacking one make you a woman?
“A: No. Being a man or a woman is a matter of gender identity not a simple matter of chromosomal algebra….”
Later, “… The term sex chromosome is something of a misnomer…”
Elsewhere … “outdated nomenclature that uses gonadal anatomy as the basis of sex classification.”
Can you Adam and Eve it?
(Timelines:
It has been known since 1936 that BPA has the efficacy of estradiol, the natural endogenous estrogen. It has been classified as an endocrine disrupting agent. The EPA’s definition of an Endocrine Disrupting Chemical, 1996: An exogenous agent that interferes with the production, release, transport, metabolism, binding, action, or elimination of natural hormones in the body responsible for the maintenance of homeostasis [adults] and the regulation of developmental processes [children up until completion of growth].
In the 1940’s and 1950’s, mass production of plastics began. Plastic manufacturing is a major part of the chemical industry. )
Of course, These malformations are facilely being blamed on inheritance and genetics. Vom Saal explains how this is wrong; and that “epigenetic” mechanisms (how genes are turned on or off) stimulated by exogenous substances “determine what we become.”
Hence, I suppose, the field of Teratology (Tera [monster; marvel] + Logos [the study of]) — the study of abnormalities of physiological development … often thought of as the study of human congenital abnormalities, but it’s broader than that, taking into account other non-birth developmental stages including puberty. (Wikipedia)
The conventional way these genital malformations has been handled, was to assign a sex to a baby at birth, through guesswork, and also to perform surgery on newborns to try and normalize the appearance of the genitalia. That has backfired, in a big way. When these babies became adults, often they did not identify with the sex assigned to them at birth. This may be why we have so many people changing genders. I am not aware of any statistics on the numbers involved here. But I do feel that at the heart of all this recent insanity going on with regard to gender, is toxic exposure to endocrine disrupting chemicals during fetal development.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Excellent post, Cancelled. Those wishing to reduce their intake of BPA, should take the following action, especially pregnant mothers,,,
Use BPA-free products. Manufacturers are creating more and more BPA-free products. Look for products labeled as BPA-free. If a product isn’t labeled, keep in mind that some, but not all, plastics marked with recycle codes 3 or 7 may be made with BPA.
Cut back on cans. Reduce your use of canned foods since many cans are lined with BPA-containing resin.
The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, part of the National Institutes of Health, advises against microwaving polycarbonate plastics or putting them in the dishwasher, because the plastic may break down over time and allow BPA to leach into foods.
Use alternatives. Use glass, porcelain or stainless steel containers for hot foods and liquids instead of plastic containers.
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R T said:
Holy shit, I think you’re right. Man, like Josh said, you’re on the ball with your posts lately!
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Josh said:
This is really messed up, cancelled. So messed up it seems to me you’re really onto something here. This would help explain why genetic researchers for so long insisted against logic that the genetic information in DNA that was not part of our genes (which is a majority) was useless ‘junk’ DNA that did not have any purpose. And of course Alex Jones is one of the leading foils (antis) for criticism of endocrine disruptors, with the issue reduced to a sound byte with him screaming about ‘chemicals turning the frogs gay!’ And then there’s the California law about public disclosure of endocrine disruptors. So basically everywhere you go there are signs up about chemicals that cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. At first you’re like, WTF? why is this sign up nearly everywhere I go? But then you just stop noticing the signs, let alone worrying about it. Seems like a terrible way to deal with such a serious issue.
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cancelled said:
Yes, the obfuscation and normalization is a terrible way to deal with issue, because it precludes addressing the causes. The abnormalities will continue to occur. These are not just “cosmetic” problems; many of them involve other organs (e g the heart, and in men remember uro-genital is one system), and some conditions require multiple surgeries, hormone replacement therapy, and lifelong medical attention.
Then there’s the whole other aspect: psychological and social implications for the dare I say victims (because that is politically incorrect!). It was clear to me, from the Accord Alliance website, that this whole situation is being very carefully “managed” to program into the world at large a normalization narrative. To me, this is being done to placate victims, and make it less likely for them or their distraught parents (a major issue) from seeking answers. This brought to my mind the 2003 film, “Normal,” starring Jessica Lange and Tom Wilkinson:
“After a 25-year marriage to Irma, Roy shocks his family when he reveals that he has a gender identity disorder….Roy decides to have a sex change operation to relieve the pain of being trapped in a man…”
We are being programmed to accept this sort of thing as normal. Rather than address the issue, we will change societal perceptions. We will change the whole concept of human sexuality.
I forgot to include in the Timeline facts about glyphosate, the active ingredient in Monsanto’s RoundUp. That hit the market in 1974; whereas GMO foods (which will contain glyphosate systemically) were introduced about 20 years later. So glyphosate has been leaching from lawns into the water for a long time before we began eating it. It’s important to know that is has been patented as an antibiotic, wiping out good bacteria in the gut, enabling bad bacteria to get an upper hand there; contributing to all kinds of health problems for adults. That’s in addition to its endocrine disrupting effects.
Huber said that in 2014, 340million pounds of glyphosate a year were being used indiscriminately. If you go into a typical garden center, you will see rows and rows of it on the shelves. I spoke to a manager at one of them — why do you sell this stuff? It’s very toxic to humans, pets, and wildlife; and it compromises the soil. There are safe alternatives. He said, because people buy it.
(I was surprised to learn what a major player the little known endocrine system is in our bodies; it’s a big deal.)
I’ve not seen any warning signs posted here, in Florida; but as you say, people tend to dismiss them with, “ah, so what?”.
I do distinctly remember, years ago, noticing an explosion of gender-confused people “coming out of the woodwork” and wondering, what’s going on? I wish I could remember when that was.
(Bayer recently bought Monsanto.)
Does the science make sense to you in this video?
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cancelled said:
A two-part Lecture where Dr Vom Saal mentions gender abnormalities in connection with Bisphenol A (BPA)
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L Kinder said:
“What will be the fate of Homo sapiens if and when there is no outlet for the innate intelligence that defines this beautiful, magnificent species?” (quote of cancelled)
The physical beauty of our species is “skin-deep”, i.e. superficial. I don’t identify with my cells, my blood, fluids, organs, bones etc. I identify partly with my mental image of my body and with my consciousness. My mental image of me is also part of my consciousness actually. The caring aspect of my consciousness seems to be the most important. That’s what defines what I care about. I do care about human freedom, as well as about opportunity for everyone to make the most of their “positive” potentials.
To evolutionists and many atheists our species doesn’t matter, except to those who regard us as mainly harmful to all other life, so to them it matters that humans die out or evolve asap. To many religionists our purpose is just to praise our creator forever. Is there a third way? I think so. To us “scientists” it may be to find out increasingly what we are and what we can and should do. Miles has developed a theory about what we are, including those among us who seem to manipulate the rest of us. And we are exploring and testing his theory. Yes? Maybe we can somehow find ways to end our captivity. Patrick McGoohan, star and creator of the old brief The Prisoner series (1966, I think), said in interviews that we are never free, in contradiction to the hero of his series.
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garrettderner said:
> Miles has developed a theory about what we are…
He has? Is there a specific paper?
> Patrick McGoohan… said in interviews that we are never free…
Remember the end of the last episode? Number Six appears free at last, driving off in his Lotus Seven build-it-yourself sportscar, yet we still hear the prison gate slamming sound effect.
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cancelled said:
Yes, physical Beauty is superficial. (Miles has touched on this somewhere.) Someone can look like a perfect specimen, and then turn ugly before your very eyes. And vice versa. Last Thanksgiving, at the family gathering, I met a man who struck me as very ugly, physically. I mean, he was hard to look at. He and his wife had a newborn baby there, and the baby was miserable — fractious, unable to keep down its feed, unable to sleep. This ugly man minded that baby for the entire two hours I was there, holding it lovingly, soothing him, walking the floor, with such unconditional tenderness and infinite patience, in the end I thought to myself, what a beautiful man. I love him.
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L Kinder said:
Nice story for Christmas, C.
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Jared Magneson said:
Art.
Art is the purpose of the intelligence, the outlet and the cure for all these technology blues! There are so many forms, from painting to music to sculpting and architecture. Even crafting technology requires some artistry, to make things right and comfy for people to interact with. If automation gives us more free time, I’m perfectly fine with that – though I myself desire less and hope to homestead as soon as financially viable.
Excellent post again, Cancelled. A lot to think about, and you think well.
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anna said:
You ask:
Question: given this level of surveillance, why do we need to worry about terrorists?
But WE ARE the terrorists aren’t we? They’re terrified that little games will be revealed.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
@Russell Taylor
“Several years ago, a student – may have been in electrical engineering – invented a battery cell using graphene…..Since then…not a word! Fake news?…”
Yes Russell, it wasn’t a scam, but high density batteries can only be viable if defect free graphene sheets can be mass produced, and preferably at low cost. While much effort (and money) has been put into this endeavour, as far as I know, no one has managed to do this yet. However, graphene LiPo batteries are on sale for use in various applications. These batteries offer faster charging times and higher power output than ordinary cells (via a reduction in the cells internal resistance), but very little improvement in the amount of energy stored. They are more expensive than ordinary cells, but useful for some applications. We just need to be patient and hope that the problems of mass-production of cheap defect free graphene sheets can be solved.
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Ollie said:
Look at what I found here:
https://theconversation.com/bizarre-dark-fluid-with-negative-mass-could-dominate-the-universe-what-my-research-suggests-107922
Someone has developed a theory that claims to explain nothing less than both dark matter and dark energy. (paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1712.07962.pdf) Well, stuff like that happens all the time but he uses something he calls “negative matter particles”. Now, despite the exotic name these are just particles that are everywhere and repell stuff. Sounds familiar? Wait, these particles not just repell stuff they are also somehow attracted by large masses and form a “dark fluid” that permeates space and influences larger objects and their movement. So basically they mimic b-photons: They move towards masses but also move away and repell stuff. But here ends the similarity: While the charge-field offers a mechanism to explain the particle movement, the author here just postulates that these particles are continuously created. He also claims some sorts of experimental evidence.
What we can take away is this: “negative matter” now equals *repelling particles* which could explain how dark matter works.
Is he stealing some certain idea that we know of by altering it suffiently to claim it’s his own?
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L Kinder said:
Everyone here is welcome to check out the etherpad at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/zyx000cutfog
At least 2 or 3 of us plan to have live discussion there shortly, i.e. at 7PM Easter Time, 4PM Pacific. I’ve participated on etherpads before and the live discussion can be very creative and fast-paced, at least for those who can type fairly fast. Anyone who’s slower could try typing on Notepad or something, then copying and pasting it onto the etherpad, maybe one sentence or paragraph at a time. Just an idea.
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L Kinder said:
Nothing happening at the etherpad yet. Anyone want to help make something happen there? Or is it too intimidating?
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L Kinder said:
My first suggestion for a discussion topic at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/zyx000cutfog is The Nature of the Main Global Conspiracy
Maybe I should write what I think Miles’ main points are, then ask how probable each point seems to be. How does that sound?
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L Kinder said:
I guess we’ll have to reschedule the etherpad discussion at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/zyx000cutfog — Just 2 of us were there and we didn’t discuss anything.
Suggestions for when to discuss there are welcome. Also what topics to discuss and whether there are better places or formats.
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L Kinder said:
I decided to discuss some things with myself on the etherpad. Here’s what I said and what was said by me. (Got any comments?)
1. The Nature of the Main Global Conspiracy
2. What To Do in Collaboration about That Conspiracy
3. What are the Most Important Issues for Humanity?
4. What are the Most Important Findings in Science, especially little-known findings
1. The Nature of the Main Global Conspiracy
Miles’ main views on the conspiracy seem to be these:
– The conspirators are Semitic; he accepts Gerry’s theory that the Phoenicians were the precursors of the later Jewish conspiracy
(Who are those Jews? Real Jews, or Ashkenazi, or what? I think most Jews in Israel are Ashkenazi. Am I wrong?)
– They have controlled human events and societies since the beginning of known history
– They have always used fear to control people by faking the existence of fearsome adversaries and making wars against them that involved much fakery of frightening events
– They have always controlled the major media and education systems
(Are all Jews in on the conspiracy? If not, which Jews are? And how are Jews defined?)
– A large percentage of conspirators are gay
(Not bixesual?)
2. What To Do in Collaboration about That Conspiracy
– Support the Community Rights movement such as through http://CELDF.org which helps communities pass ordinances to protect local communities from big corporations and big government
Note: CELDF contends that the legitimacy of governments stems from the rights of individuals and small communities to self-govern as per the Declaration of Independence etc
3. What are the Most Important Issues for Humanity?
– Ending the conspiracy and instituting peace, freedom, self-directed learning and willing collaboration for all
– Ending major corruption in science in order to determine what are the most realistic serious threats to humanity
– Preventing future global cataclysms from impacts and air bursts
4. What are the Most Important Findings in Science, especially little-known findings
– The conspiracy and major corruption
– Global cataclysms in early human history
– Errors in mainstream science
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Josh said:
Lloyd this seems like a worthwhile effort. Interested to see if it leads anywhere. I unfortunately am very pressed for time. A couple of quick responses to a few things you wrote:
“he accepts Gerry’s theory that the Phoenicians were the precursors of the later Jewish conspiracy”
I am not sure he would put it like that. In Gerry’s 3rd paper, Miles commented: “What he has shown is
evidence the Israelites and Phoenicians were two arms of the same beast, with the Phoenician arm
later suppressed because it was known to be a rich arm…. So it isn’t that the Jews aren’t really Jews or
Zionists or Israelites or Hebrews. They are. But they are also Phoenicians, Egyptians, Canaanites,
Assyrians, and Sumerians. What we now call the Jews were behind all those civilizations,
comprising the elite class hiding in the dark beneath them all. . . just like now. Modern elite Jews
are cosmopolitans, being American, Canadian, French, English, Dutch, Russian, Polish, and every
other designation. In exactly the same way, the ancient Jews were everywhere there was money to
be made and things to be traded. After a certain point, which even Gerry can’t specify, we may
assume they were deeply lodged in all the famous old civilizations, running all or most of them
from behind the scenes. Israel and Phoenicia stand out in this list, the former for obvious reasons
and the latter for the reasons Gerry has laid out for you. Phoenicia was so obviously Jewish its
records had to be permanently hidden. And Solomon’s links to Phoenicia were so obvious they had
to likewise hidden or tweaked.”
You wrote:
“I think most Jews in Israel are Ashkenazi. Am I wrong?”
Yes, you’re wrong. A small majority of Jews in Israel are of ‘Mizrahi’ descent, where Mizrahi just means ‘Eastern’ and it designates Jews who immigrated from the Middle East and North Africa in large numbers in the 50’s, 60’s and even the 70’s. (The term Sephardic is often used to designate these Jews but that is a misnomer.) There are even more who are mixed Mizrahi and Ashkenazi second and third and fourth generation.
You asked: “Are all Jews in on the conspiracy? If not, which Jews are? And how are Jews defined?”
I can say from my own experience that most Jews are not in on it. I would venture to guess that it is mostly elite, wealthy Jews from certain families.
You said “A large percentage of conspirators are gay.”
I guess it depends what you mean by conspirators. Certainly a large percentage of the agents who are in the public eye are gay. But there are many conspirators who are not in the public eye. Are many of them gay? I don’t know.
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Gerry said:
Maybe I worded some things wrong. I’m also new to all this, and still struggle to understand it, like you.
I think it’s risky use either just “Jew” or “Phoenician” as a one-word explanation for “The Nature of the Main Global Conspiracy”. People will get it wrong. I think we’ll have to explain it until we find better words.
From the “Phoenician” angle, we get that it’s about global colonization, monopolized global trade, resource grabs, and originally ultra-powerful people. But there’s also other info attached to the “Phoenician” tag, like Satanism or honest entrepreneurship, which are IMO false.
From the traditional “Jewish World Conspiracy” angle, we get that it’s about banksterism, secrecy, cryptocracy, supra-nationality, and family ties. Again there’s info that is IMO false, like that it’s about religion, that the spooks fought against Christianity, or against gentile aristocrats, or other powers in general. My view may be wrong though, and I see that many of you here still believe in some of these dichotomies.
From the plain “Jewish” angle, we get very little IMO, other than a lower bound for just how old cryptocracy is. It’s still important that we break the taboo of discussing the role of “Jews”, but IMO common Jews are not generally in on the conspiracy, just as common Americans aren’t, and common Phoenicians weren’t.
Then again, I don’t know why so many low-level people seem to be in on some aspect, yet comply with the scheme. Are some common Jews duped through the “Jewish” angle? If they are, they might become our allies once we show them the truth, so that could be a point for the discussion. (I can’t participate myself, sorry.)
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Jared Magneson said:
I too find it tedious to constantly differentiate between classes of people. The Masters and the Slaves, effectively. But we can’t just call them that – too wide a reference, and no blame or responsibility cast. “Jew” or “Phoenician” is a little better but also a lot worse, due to the social dogma of the first and the social amnesia of the second, though I am enjoying using “Phoenicians” for everything in social media lately, since it makes people stop and actually LISTEN. But I always point out that it was just the ruling crust, not the peasants or smallfolk, and make sure to qualify that.
The practices of greed and rapine are older than that, though. They began at the dawn of our culture, whenever that was (Fertile Crescent, or NW of Syria?) and whoever began it. Again, I’m referring to Totalitarian Agriculture, wherein the greedy and lazy took control of the food and put it under lock and key. These are the people who ruled humanity then and still do, from the beginning through Judea and Babylon and Assyria and everywhere else our monoculture has thrived – which is almost everywhere on Earth, now. It spread like a plague and still spreads.
Daniel Quinn calls them “The Takers”, and the cultures before (and few existing now), “The Leavers”. They only take. They never leave anything for the rest of the world, or if so it’s only scraps, barely sustainable. But even Quinn fails to connect the responsibility to any particular groups – something you folks (Miles, Josh, Gerry, Vexman, etc.) have been rectifying quite blatantly for the last decade now or so.
The concept of “anti-Semitism” is so ingrained into our culture now, there’s really no way to discuss it honestly without offending the troglodytes. So, fuck ’em. Let them be offended. They aren’t the people interested in the truth or reality to begin with, so let ’em cry all they like. Shoo them like flies, with their Stockholm Syndrome and Statist rhetorics, their patriot virus. Only real thinkers will be interested in the truth, wherever it may lead us. The average Joe cannot help us; it’s because of them that the Takers took over in the first place.
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L Kinder said:
Ollie, I doubt if the person is stealing from Miles. There are lots of theories in people’s heads and a lot of them are similar.
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Jared Magneson said:
Doesn’t really look like plagiarism, just more standard-fare non-starter anti-physical garbage, to drop a few hyphens on the topic. Dark liquid? Made of WHAT? Negative mass? Nope, nope. Although that one is particularly ridiculous, so we can at least give the person a courtesy cackle and a nice, healthy guffaw. Just more really fake nonscience.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
As the ‘Dark Liquid’ conjecture has no mechanical underpinning,it is nothing like Miles theory of the photon charge field, which is solidly rooted in the real world of hard knocks. While reading through this pile of non-physical gobbledygook I finally hit the money-shot, which explains why the theory even got a hearing…
“…The relationship between the speed and the distance of a galaxy is set by the ‘Hubble constant’, but measurements of it have continued to vary. This has led to a crisis in cosmology. Fortunately, a negative mass cosmology mathematically predicts that the Hubble “constant” should vary over time. Clearly, there is evidence that this weird and unconventional new theory deserves our scientific attention…”
The mainstream will always tolerate any amount of rubbish, providing it props up their rickety pseudo-scientific house of cards.
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DF said:
In robot AI news here today , the world’s largest on-line merchant has a major facility taken down by two robots bumping and puncturing a can of bear repellent , not sure why anyone would fake such an event , so assuming it’s true , I tried to link to news site but they all seem to be nightmarish pop-up ridden rat’s nest of cyber trash , like little children begging for your attention , who could go to such a site , here’s the headline anyway .
” Robot Punctures Bear Spray Can, More Than 50 People Sickened at New Jersey Amazon Warehouse, Town Says
Accidental discharge of bear repellent sickens workers at Amazon Fulfillment Center in Robbinsville, New Jersey ”
Published Dec 5, 2018 at 9:37 AM | Updated 4 minutes ago
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Jared Magneson said:
GOOD. Anything bad that happens to Amazon makes me happy. They’ve been demolishing the farmlands here for years, though they do have a decent bear repellent. 😉
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cancelled said:
Amazon FULFILLMENT center. Is that an example of neurolinguistic programming? It struck me as rather grandiose, when I read it. Why not “supply” center? I always thought “fulfillment” connoted something rather more profound than the receipt of a parcel on the doorstep.
With subtle little devices like this, you can program people to believe that very thing: I am fulfilled by the receipt of my parcel! … I am fulfilled by a material possession. I am fulfilled … I suspect this is NLP, a subtle form of hypnosis.
The use of language these days seems to be fraught with peril. You need to stay on your toes to elude the programming.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
‘Newspeak’ has been around a long time, along with their more modern variants ‘maketingspeak’ and ‘PCspeak’. They all do the same job, for example, by hoping to make you believe that a new iPhone X will change your life for the better, or it is wrong to call a spade a spade. They are words and phrases designed to appeal to your emotional side rather than what is logical.
The word fulfill comes from OE fullfyllan, literally ‘fully fill’, and was a word much used in trading. It meant to be given exactly what you paid for and receive it on time.
Fulfilment is descriptive of the process itself and the feeling the customer gets at the end of a successful transaction (short measure and late delivery give the reverse feeling).
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ihatestarwars said:
Seeing how fulfil comes from OE fullfyllan, made me wanna look up the word ‘fylfot’, the name of the three-legged swastika-like device on the Isle of Man flag:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fylfot
‘Origin, Late 15th century: perhaps from fill-foot ‘pattern filling the foot of a painted window’.’
Yet fyl actually means many, much, like the German viel or Afrikaans veel.
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L Kinder said:
Although the discussion of Amazon and “fulfillment” seems trivial to me, the reply about the 3-legged swastika is more interesting. While the English word, “fylfot”, may have originated in the 1400s as mentioned, the actual symbols for both the fylfot and the swastika originated thousands of years ago in what is now considered ancient myths. Here’s a good read on the subject — Swastika: http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/search.cgi?zoom_query=swastika&zoom_per_page=25&zoom_and=1&zoom_cat%5B%5D=0
Fylfot: http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/search.cgi?zoom_query=fylfot&zoom_per_page=25&zoom_and=1&zoom_cat%5B%5D=-1
Although Miles has critiqued the Velikovsky and Thunderbolts aspects of catastrophism some months ago, I think there’s still a lot more to them than he seems willing to give them credit for. Evidence for ancient global cataclysms is very strong, as I and others have shown in this thread at Thunderbolts: http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16025
And the first two links above well suggest that the fylfot and swastika were significant celestial observations by the ancients of events leading up to major cataclysms.
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L Kinder said:
GENDER DEFORMITY FUTURE
I just started an etherpad on that topic at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/zyx002cutfog
It includes highlights from recent discussion above by Cancelled and others.
I guess I can schedule two timeslots for discussion there at 5PM ET (10PM in UK) and again at 9PM ET (6PM Pacific Time).
Anyone is free to go there any other time as well and leave comments if you like.
I’m experimenting with ways to use etherpads in combination with this forum.
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Jared Magneson said:
Thanks for all that data and the links, L_Kinder. In particular, the links about falsified dating methods are of great interest to me. Especially since we know what’s happening with the K -> Ar interaction and those folks were just shooting in the dark, based on their observations. It’s damning stuff, in my opinion. I’d seen similar stuff about Carbon-14 dating gone awry, but not Potassium-Argon dating before. Thanks for sharing.
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L Kinder said:
Jared, although C14 dating isn’t entirely accurate, it seems to be much better than other radiometric dating methods. Would you believe dinosaur fossils are all or mostly under 40,000 years old? Would you believe the Late Heavy Bombardment of the inner planets by impacts also occurred in that time period? And what about the formation of coal beds and continental drift? And what about all existing sedimentary rock strata having been deposited in the same time frame? Creationists believe in such things, but I found plenty of evidence outside of that community in more conventional science for the above statements. And I hope to share a decent summary of the evidence before long. And I’m not a creationist myself. I don’t believe in the inerrancy of any bible or other writing or oral tradition. Another fascinating fact is that our atmosphere was very likely 2 or 3 times thicker a few thousand years ago than at present. That’s apparently because the meteor bombardment caused the loss of the rest of the previous atmosphere. And that’s why large plants and animals were able to survive on land back then. The thicker air made them more buoyant.
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Jared Magneson said:
I’ve seen much of this before as well, quite possibly from your posts elsewhere before this site was established, but I don’t know how ready I am to believe in some of it. That is absolutely NO measure of its validity, just stating my bias as clearly as possible. Yes, it IS possible that these creatures aren’t many millions of years old, but is it likely? We have human records going back that far – but again, there may be conflicts with THAT data as well. Especially dating methodologies. If they are so suspect, we must discard them or rectify them with other methods and histories.
To me, there’s a point where the timeline being too short presents a great problem. Especially regarding astrological events, such as planetary formation and alignment and orbits. Venus might be one of the best indicators of this timeline but only regarding ITS timeline, really. How long has it been spinning backwards, how long will it take to reverse (Miles knows), and does all that mean it entered the system back then? Or has it been reversed for some other reason? Who knows, but this could tell us a lot about the Earth’s timeline.
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Runar said:
I have noticed that English dictionaries are not so good when it comes to word having a anglo-saxon origin, because the makers of dictionaries have always been the Norman/romance speaking people. I think fylfot sounds like firfot meaning fourfeet. It would have been much older than presumed, and would have been picked up from the Danes – recklessly.
The word used for the tripod (threefoot) is usually triskele. This is reflected in the name Driscoll and Driskel.
I once tried to look for an Anglo-Saxon dictionary or an Old English one, but there is no such animal. There are some online small compilations named dictionaries, but their neglected status mostly speaks volumes of how we never should call anything from that particular Island for English. Its Judeo-Gothic (incl Norman).
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ihatestarwars said:
The Isle of Man fylfot has three legs. A great uncle of mine lived on the isle, and he said it meant ‘many feet’, I even remember seeing it in an old dictionary, that was handed down to me in the late 70s.
Just found this:
https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Fylfot&item_type=topic
Triskelion? Wasn’t that a Star Trek episode?
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Russell Taylor said:
“Triskelion? Wasn’t that a Star Trek episode?”
Dunno but it’s definitely a motorcycle training school near us.
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Gerry said:
The Triskelion symbol may be the Greek Dreyfus pun:
three legs = tripody ≈ tripoly = three cities / Tripoli (in Libya, Phoenicia & other places)
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cancelled said:
I have noticed that English dictionaries have changed, noticeably, since I majored in English as an undergrad and postgrad in the 70’s. My nose was constantly in a dictionary; I looked up almost every other word I encountered in my reading of poetry, literature, and criticism. I still do, and the dictionaries have definitely changed, in an Orwellian way.
Back then, poor as I was as a student, I invested in a very expensive 2-volume OED (Oxford English Dictionary) — two thick heavy tomes in tiny print that covered the etymology of every word in the English language, from its olde English origins to the present day, together with examples of usage in context, and other scholarly commentary, that you had to read with an accompanying magnifying glass.
I wouldn’t trust even a new one of those, today. I would consult a dinosaur.
Everything is being tampered with! Another heavily consulted reference book of mine, as an English major, was Aristotle’s Poetics. I know I read it half a dozen times or more. It laid down the rules of dramatic composition for both tragedy and comedy — plot, characterization, etc.
Just the other day, I wanted to review Aristotle’s commentary on characterization and plot — something about having a very bad character end up triumphant in the end, being morally repugnant: what did he say about that? Let’s find out. Well, over the years I’ve lost my copy, which would have been published in the late 1970’s. So I went online.
Talk about tragedy! The current text bears no resemblance to what I knew it to be. It’s been totally rewritten. Things have been twisted; simplified; eliminated; outright changed. Not one word online was recognizable, to me.
You know the film, No Country for Old Men? Where the main character, a murderous psychopath, gets away with it all? Where evil triumphs? I’m pretty darned sure that would have been deemed morally repugnant and therefore dramatic heresy to Aristotle, whose Poetics governed fictional composition for centuries. So they’ve erased it from history.
Just like the film shows, this is no country for old men, for whom there is still such a thing, as moral repugnance.
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nada0101 said:
Fascinating stuff.
I still suspect that the whole point of projects that seek to digitize all books (e.g. GoogleBooks) is to eventually allow the subtle change of knowledge and history…as is required. Orwellian to the multiple cores and servers. Users, now or in the future, might think they are reading a scan of, say, an ancient greek text without realizing it has been changed graphically to suit a contemporary need. So the reader starts translating from a compromised source.
Insidious!
Of course this raises a point I mentioned before — how far can we trust these old Byzantine copies of ancient Greek texts that were probably flogged by the “Merchant Princes” of Renaissance Italian city states? The discovery of forgeries was already a scandal even in those days. Are all the texts, from Herodotus to Plutarch, suspect or even a load of forged b*ll*x?
I don’t believe so; I hope not. But zee suspicion remains.
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nada0101 said:
PS And if GoogleBooks does start “updating” its history texts then they will merely be faking existing fakes based on fakes. As usual 😉
I cannot wait for blockchain technology to become mainstream — somehow it will be used to “lock-in” fake knowledge, transactions and events, forever.
“The block chain says you’re wrong dude and the block chain aint never wrong!”
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R T said:
Remember Nada: they’re changing the *record* of history, not history itself. That’s an idea that Miles has written on extensively. Even those who own the press cannot change history itself, only the record of it.
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Russell Taylor said:
Nearly all my old heroes are born into money and privilege and talentless.
I was born a potential liar, thief, adulterer, molester, rapist, murderer due to my gender.
Now Runar is telling me I don’t even have my own language. That its a fake language? Not the language I was brought up to admire and revel in and erm, try to use to the best of my inability.
Oh woe is me……
So I’m having cheesy mushy peas and a strong beer to compensate for my inadequacies…..not in the same glass I might add!
I do agree though Runar that English is all over the place and has some very silly rules.
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nada0101 said:
Read Steven Pinker’s “The Sense of Style: The Thinking Person’s Guide to Writing in the 21st Century”.
I did and came away with the distinct sense that Mr Pinker was taking the piss. I deeply distrust the work.
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cancelled said:
Yum yum, mushy peas. A British friend is coming over for Christmas. He’s bringing mince pies!!
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Runar said:
No i didn’t say so, what i said should mainly raise the question whether the English of today should be categorized as a Germanic or Romance language. And if anyone says its Germanic at core while having an ever exceeding import of Latin vocabulary, i will have to agree.
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Russell Taylor said:
“…whether the English of today should be categorized as a Germanic or Romance language.”
Unless I spent the next two years doing a word count, I couldn’t say for sure either way. English is made up of so many different languages, Gaelic, Celtic, Germanic, French, Scandinavian and Latin, where the heck do you start Runar? Is there any other language in the world such a mixed bag? Is it trade that caused this because regional dialects have always interested me. In my travels I’ve started piecing together where my own local dialect originated. I live in a very central part of Britain, slightly north and on a centre line. A little history checking found that my town was one of the main thoroughfares for trading from the eastern and western ports, feeding out to the northerly and southerly towns.
So the words we use can originate 80 miles south, east, north or west.
So my own dialect is a real mixed bag of all sorts. It wasn’t until I started lots of travel countrywide that I kept hearing words and terms which I thought were quite unique to my town.
Damn it…..even my own dialect is a watered down mixture of everyone else’s.
Is nothing sacred?
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calgacus said:
Regarding the Shakespeare project , this link https://www.litcharts.com/blog/shakespeare/words-shakespeare-invented/ says that he introduced about 422 words. Many more words were not necessarily invented by “him”, but “his” plays probably played a great role in making these words part of the common English language. I wonder if there is an etymological study of these Shakespearean words. How many words are derived from Latin or other Romance languages and how many are Germanic.
The Shakespeare project was probably a major component of making English a global language. You get the impression that English is a very hybrid/artificial language. Of course, we can point out that many languages were also changed from top to bottom. I believe that you can find proof of relatinization in many languages. The situation becomes more funny if the so called sacred languages are artificial themselves (Latin, Ancient Greek, Ancient Hebrew, Koran Arabic, Sanskrit etc). Of course, to make my comment more clear I should define what I mean by artificial, since all things made by man can be considered artificial. An artificial language can be a language made by elites to be used only by elites, like a priestly language or sacred language. Of course that an artificial language takes elements from more organic languages, and the organic languages borrow elements from the artificial languages (an artificial language can influence another artificial language). Thus you can have a loop. To make my comment more clear I will state that I believe that older versions of Romance languages existed before Latin (so a loop of borrowing was in place from the begging of Latin).
It is hard to distill my thoughts or speculations on the evolution of the languages. I guess I can end with a few questions that maybe some people here will try to answer.
1)Do you believe in the “Shakespeare was a project” narrative?
2)What was the goal of the Shakespeare project?(assuming you say yes to Q1)
3)Was the English language molded in such a way to be a global language?
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ihatestarwars said:
@calcagus
Shakespeare’s will mentions no manuscripts or rights to plays, his signatures look like someone copying someone else’s very badly, his parents and daughters were illiterate and he wasn’t?, and some of his sonnets appear to written by a woman.
Miles did a pdf on Shakey:
Click to access shake.pdf
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calgacus said:
People interested in the Anglo-Saxon literature or language should read this post https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/birthing-beowulf/ . Again, it is hard to decide how much is real vs how much is just an artificial narrative created by the families. People should not assume that the phenomena of reinterpreting language is something new (post Orwell). The elites probably had similar projects for each generation since who knows when. For the English language, Shakespeare is probably one of the biggest projects. According to the link I gave, there is a big chance that even Beowulf is a project. I should point out that these projects are not static. For example, some plays of Shakespeare are interpreted in a different manner nowadays than say 1850 . To give a more concrete example, I took this quote from the wiki page of Henry Irving ” His Shylock was as much discussed as his Hamlet had been, the dignity with which he invested the vengeful Jewish merchant marking a departure from the traditional interpretation of the role.”
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L Kinder said:
Jared, I can explain why each statement seems probable sometime. Not now though.
CHAT ROOM ANYBODY? See https://us21.chatzy.com/68459764142869
Since maybe no one is ready to join me on an etherpad yet, we could meet at that chat room at 9PM Eastern Time, 6PM Pacific.
I guess we could just start discussing whatever comes to mind that interests you, maybe relating to this site.
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cancelled said:
I like your style; your tenacity. Keep pushing …. Don’t give up. We need more people like you in the world, to rouse us from our — what is it? — malaise, stupor, fear?
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lewis reid said:
Torpor?
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nada0101 said:
You wouldn’t understand my accent and you’d keep telling me to stop f**king swearin’.
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cancelled said:
This lecture by Professor Don Huber is informative regarding the chemical glyphosate, with commentary connecting it to gender deformities, and other effects.
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ihatestarwars said:
RIP Buzzcocks’ frontman Peter Shelley aka Peter Campbell McNeish:
I love that song, the lyric is like a vignette of lost love. (Apparently the first Buzzcocks’ remastered albums were already scheduled for re-release next month.)
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Runar said:
Rest in Peace Pete
He who made my eighties better with solo albums like XL-1
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Runar said:
Endocrine disruptors and the multitude of pollution that we are served.
Another idea of mine which probably comes to nothing as i don’t find people to collaborate with. But the idea doesn’t go away, and it can be taken up later.
To start a new standard for clean and unpolluted food.
The machines of Rife and others like Hulda Clark and E-lybra shows way.
This technology is mature, but there probably is non made yet for solely analysing food samples.
I was quite surprised when i first started with E-lybra and it showed the medicines i had used years before, it was an antibiotic, taken four years before and sleeping pills two years before. The rests in my body was large enough to be measurable and to get expelled by the machine.
But with such technology we can measure any product out there and give our comment.
Combined with a new food store chain we can pick out products that are healthy. And then we can go on further to cooperate with farmers and producers, while publishing our finds on the competition.
This technology can also be used to kickstart a new era of herbal medicine as we can fast map the molecular content of any plant. But unless its profit is immediately is used to fight off the monopoly of Big Pharma it will be useless. Because any plant which is found potent with medicinal properties will become a controlled substance – by big pharma. This is the purpose of Codex Alimentarius. This is a commission which hides behind the aims of creating healthy standards of food, plus free trade of agricultural products.(facilitating trade). But where their policies are installed we see that the prohibition or control of nutritional supplements (vitamins) is coming up.
https://thenhf.com/codex/
And now to the horrible gay problem:
https://www.queerty.com/household-common-items-causing-men-develop-smaller-penises-20181206
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L Kinder said:
Runar: “To start a new standard for clean and unpolluted food.”
The only way I see so far to have a chance to accomplish anything significant in society is by using the approach of http://CELDF.org , which is to pass local ordinances, based on Community Rights and individual rights, which is the philosophical basis of any government.
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L Kinder said:
Do You Come From Royal Blood? Your Last Name May Tell You.
https://blogs.ancestry.com/cm/do-you-come-from-royal-blood-your-last-name-may-tell-you/
22 May 2015
by Sandie Angulo Chen
_Do you think your family originated from the top 1 percent?
According to a new study of unique last names from around the world, moving in or out of the upper class doesn’t take just a few generations — it takes centuries.
Measuring not just income and wealth but also occupation, education, and longevity, researchers found that upper-class families took 300 to 450 years before their scions fell back into the middle class. Throughout society, poor families, taken as a whole, took an equal amount of time — 10 to 15 generations — to work their way up into the middle class.
_Researchers at the University of California, Davis, and the London School of Economics conducted the study, which they published in the journal “Human Nature.”
Using Surnames to Follow the Wealthy
The researchers based their study on families with unique last names. Those unique last names made it possible to trace the families through genealogical and other public records. In England, those aristocratic names included Atthill, Bunduck, Balfour, Bramston, Cheslyn, and Conyngham.
_The social scientists looked for those and other unique, upper-class surnames among students who attended Oxford and Cambridge universities between 1170 and 2012, rich property owners between 1236 and 1299, as well as probate records since 1858 — which are available on Ancestry.com.
Moving Up Slowly
_They found that social mobility in late medieval England wasn’t any worse than in modern England. Illiterate village artisans in 1300 took seven generations to incorporate fully into the educated elite of 1500. Conversely, if you died between 1999 and 2012 and had one of the 181 rare surnames of wealthy families in the mid-19th century, you were more than three times as wealthy as the average person.
Researchers aren’t sure why social mobility appears to move so slowly, despite outside political and social forces, and suspect genetics may play a role.
Rich Americans
_The United States isn’t even old enough yet to test the researchers’ theory. But that hasn’t stopped many observers from identifying certain surnames that connote wealth in the United States.
_For example, about 100 Mellons are alive today sharing $12 billion, the fruit of a bank their forefather Andrew W. Mellon founded in the mid-1800s. The several hundred living members of the Rockefellers share $10 billion in wealth that started when John D. Rockefeller founded Standard Oil in 1870.
With just $1 billion, the Kennedy family’s wealth is eclipsed by the assets of less romantic family dynasties (the wealthiest family in the world, the Waltons, trace their riches to the founding of Wal-Mart in 1962), but the 30 Kennedy heirs live with a name associated with America’s Camelot.
_Time will tell how long it takes those heirs to end up driving a cab. In the meantime, if you have a unique surname, or even if your last name is Smith, Ancestry can help you find out where your ancestors worked, how well they were educated, and how long they lived — all signs, according to researchers, of their place in the social hierarchy.
— Sandie Angulo Chen
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Runar said:
Testing image posting – does it embed?
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Jared Magneson said:
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Jared Magneson said:
Just copy-paste the direct URL. In WordPress, there’s no need for any coding.
That said, I don’t get the reference. 😉
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Josh said:
Sometimes pictures embed automatically with copy paste and sometimes they don’t. I’m not really sure why. If the URL ends with .jpg or other image file format I think that greatly improves the chances of embedding automagically.
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Runar said:
As i entered the message, it just disappeared without any trace, no moderation message. I thought it was lost.
I thought you would take the message right away. The first pic is young Karl Marx and the other is Geert Wilders, the zionist leader of the dutch Frijheit party. They have the same hair do, and the same eyes, and my guess is they are family. But i havent checked Wilders. While info on Marx family has now become more widespread online, since the first time i checked some years ago and i also see people noticing that Marx never ever questioned the international capitalists, only the national. Its slowly proceeding.
Freedom, of course not from that corner. Never ever.
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Josh said:
It was picked up by the spam fillers and placed in the spam folder until I dug it out.
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helios22 said:
Hello ! Watch this video if you want to understand what happens in France right now and how people were manipulated. But it’s in French, so use translator, please.
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Russell Taylor said:
Similar description of the same deception HELIOS22
https://www.iceagenow.info/climate-summit-language-reveals-real-but-hidden-agenda/#more-27356
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helios22 said:
Thanks, Russel, I think I will translate this paper for my compatriots.
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Vexman said:
I’ve been struggling through the web lately, trying to find unbiased or insiders info on what’s going on in France right now. All the major web search engines are pushing propaganda crap, I don’t even want to click on those.
Do you have any links to some trustful blogs about? There’s no problem if they’re written in French, I’m an avid user of translator 🙂 I’m also a big supporter and I sincerely hope my own fellow citizens will find inspiration in Gilets Jaunets’ deeds.
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Runar said:
This is said to be one of their main blogs. https://democratieparticipative.online/
Also i found a list of their demands which are much more than no raise on fuel prices, so much it almost makes a political profile.:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/france-bleu/demands-of-frances-yellow-vests-as-uploaded-by-france-bleu-november-29
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rolleikin said:
To me, France looks like yet another staged, choreographed “grassroots movement” riot and it appears the media is blaming it all on Facebook.
I think the “logic” goes like this:
Facebook is bad because they don’t censor the evil “truthers” like Alex Jones which has resulted in fake news spreading on social media which in turn has resulted in the public going insane and rioting and causing all sorts of destruction, injuries and death, so we better introduce some rules, laws and penalties aimed at suppressing free speech on the internet, especially any speech about how the media tells lies and makes up fake events to control the masses.
Oh, and it’s all Trump’s fault too because he also accuses trustworthy news sources of being sources of fake news.
So, if everybody would just stop accusing the media of telling lies then the danger would be over and the streets would be safe once more.
[voice on megaphone]
“Now, everybody please turn in your yellow vests to the CIA wardrobe truck and report to Jean-Paul’s Karaoke Café for your next assignment. Thank you.”
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Jared Magneson said:
So many people get excited and worked up over these “revolutions”, without ever addressing the very meaning of the word. Given what we know of all the major ones, the smaller ones are often blatantly managed or outright faked as well.
You know how to spot the difference? When real people show up and just smoke all the cops and then all the politicians, that’s how. With real footage from those same real people. They wouldn’t even need guns. Where have we seen that? Never.
And that’s precisely why they stage these things. The Powers That Be know that they couldn’t possibly stop a real one, so they use these little shit-shows as a venting mechanism, to keep people thinking something important is changing.
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Vexman said:
If what you describe was a real scenario, there would be constant TV reports about France in riots. But it’s not that way, the coverage is absolutely minimal, nobody wishes to dive into the subject while on air for real. What is usually transmitted / propagandized is about the fuel tax raise and excessive use of violence by the commoners.
The excitement about the possible change hanging in the air may be the only real thing about it. On the other hand, you can as well sense a bit of rulers’ panic in the air in France as well as in Slovenia, Italy or any other European country. It’s possible you can’t feel or tell it since you’re from another continent, but things are 100% real in terms of public dissent towards the local masters of puppets. Even in my small country there was an organised protest 2 days ago and our rulers have already cut the prices of all fuels for more than 10% after a series of consecutive price raises (with a prospect for more price raises in the future). Now, that has suddenly changed and my local masters of puppets found some space for fuel price cut. I can’t recall a fuel price drop as big as this last one, which makes me think there’s some angry French poltergeist running around our parliament. Apparently, they’re scared about this last straw that broke France’s back as a possible trigger for public disorder here too. And I can really feel it. Btw, the amount of time dedicated to reports about France’s latest riots on our few national TV’s until yesterday => up to max 30 secs, all of them combined. Now, why is that, that the major European news of the decade doesn’t get its prime time on all TV stations? You know why as well as I do, so it’s another “tell” about the rulers’ fear about it, isn’t it?
What is going on in France is not about the fuel prices. It has never been only about the fuel prices to begin with, but if you’ve followed only the MSM reports, that’s what you may have learned. It’s not true, you see, the real truth behind the enraged French masses is about the fight for social justice (France was in flames numerous times in the last 10 (or so) years, as much as Greece, you can check it in person if you really wish). This sentiment can be felt and talked about throughout Europe. It has outgrown its initial boundaries and now more and more people want to join in trying to stop the apparent oligarchy of destroying what’s left of the social state. You know, these social rights have been passionately fought for numerous times in the last 150 years, such as for instance an 8-hour workday, fair payment and prohibition of child labour. It hasn’t been rewarded to us, all of it came out of a fight against the capitalists. And the Gilets Jaunets do have a vision which stems from this anti-capitalist fight/legacy and which I fully endorse and support – I too am fed up with exorbitant prices of everything and fed up with capitalism paradigm destroying natural order of everything. I’m fed up with constant lies and with politicians doing absolutely nothing for prosperity of us, the commoners. Their arrogance of ruling has gone way out of tolerable levels, where all of their efforts are pointed to the detriment of everybody else except them and their families and/or friends. In that respect, we all deserve a change and what’s more optimistic than to see a large masses revolting and rioting against the self-imposed authority. What really bothers me is to see those French policemen fighting their fellow citizens in the streets…are they really not able to think for a second and see that they’re fighting the wrong side in this case?
In any case, if this rioting turns out to be faked and screen-played, I still need to thank them for it as I haven’t felt this much optimism and hope in all my life.
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Jared Magneson said:
I have no doubts that the riots are real, and the anger is real, and the scorn for the Powers That Be is real – across the board, in every nation. These people have abused and raped and pillaged us for far, far too long. You may recall video footage from the riots in the Ukraine a few years back, where they were beating down the police INSIDE city hall, with fire hose nozzles? That was real, too.
What I believe is that these events are often planned in advance as a RESPONSE to the anger, as an outlet and vent to control the levels. I don’t see much if any CGI in the French stuff. None in the Ukraine. But it’s almost impossible to search for the footage now, since all the video sites censor it massively.
I also place no blame upon capitalism for these things, since it’s not real either. Corporatism isn’t capitalism. But that’s just mincing words; I know what you meant!
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nada0101 said:
Who is saying the events are screen played or CGI’d? Rather, all the spooks have to do is get a lot of honest people to follow ’em. Miles pointed this out in his paper on Agatha Christi.
The fact remains that if that posted list of demands is genuine, then they are so off the mark as to be indulging in misdirection. I’ll admit it does touch lightly on migration but I see no mention of banksters or the EU. The list also contains too many sophisticated points to be a naive posting.
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nada0101 said:
PS I quickly scanned the list; I’ll go over it again to see if I missed anything.
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Vexman said:
@Jared: here is a 5hr video of the riots going on in the city of Toulouse.
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Jared Magneson said:
I hate to naysay or dash your hopes, Vex, but it really just looks like standard-fare pseudo-revolution to me. That’s five hours of almost nothing. A few fires here and there, but mostly just some guy(s) walking around amidst other people walking around. I skimmed it pretty hard. At no point was there any evidence of tactics or strategy, just a presence of people.
Is that how you or anyone else would perform an excision? No. A plan is formed, agreed upon, and executed. This is basic tactics. You don’t stand around or walk around waiting for the problem to excise itself, you act. This isn’t even a call to violence but a response to it – seize and jail the accused and give them a fair trial, if that makes anyone feel better. Hell, give them a REAL trial. Do to them what they do to us – even allow them to come fucking clean and spill the beans. They never will, because they know the Powers That Be would execute them themselves the next day, if not sooner, for shedding even a ray of light upon their hegemony.
Case in point: Toulouse is a pretty big city, the city in that video you posted, and the 4th largest metro in France at just under 1 million. So one would expect perhaps such riots that far away from Paris to have some kind of impact. But the Seattle metro here where I live has 3.5 million and we had HUGE riots during the World Trade Organization bullshit in 1999, easily as vicious and more than what we’ve seen from France. I know, I was here. It wasn’t faked in terms of CGI or greenscreen or whatever, that’s what everyone saw.
But not a single thing changed. Nothing. The people vented against an issue, and the Powers That Be allowed it, and they all went home happy, because they think that a “protest” is any form of progress. It’s not. It’s a charade – a progress-parade. A bunch of shit gets burned, a lot of storesfronts and homes get destroyed, and the insurance companies cash out and bro down. The property destruction itself is a motive, on its own – as we’ve seen in other histories such as the Battle for Britain and Dresden, etc..
Don’t get your hopes up, my friend. I would and will love to be wrong, just giving you my perspective. I would love for it to have an impact as much as you, but we’ve certainly been burned before.
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calgacus said:
I would pay some attention to the moves made by Le Pen. I found this article https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/26/macron-most-unpopular-french-president-ever-at-this-stage-of-presidential-term/ . They may create some right-wing/nationalist/anti-globalist kabuki theater. They already set the stage with Trump and Brexit. Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil (term starting in 2019) is another character that fits the anti-globalist mold. During the French elections, I considered the possibility of a Le Pen presidency (since we already had Trump and Brexit). Maybe they created a more sexy scenario for France. After all, France is associated with revolutions.
In my opinion, they most likely want to create a trap for people that favor conservative/nationalist ideas. They can give the fake right wing political parties the upper hand and then create an economic recession.In the end they can blame the world’s problems on people that believe in the conservative ideals. It would be easy to blame the economic problems on the Brexit and the “trade war”.
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Russell Taylor said:
rolliekin
“Facebook is bad because they don’t censor the evil “truthers” like Alex Jones which has resulted in fake news spreading on social media which in turn has resulted in the public going insane and rioting and causing all sorts of destruction, injuries and death…”
We used to do the same thing over the garden fence and by telephone.
The farcebook way is just lazy but the word gets around one way or another.
Fake and pushed for a hidden agenda? Yes of course but what’s new?
Like I said before, they already weakened Spain, Portugal, Italy, Poland in the past couple of recessions. Just the big players left like Germany and France, the two power-houses of Europe. Brexit was the start of the final breakdown…maybe…and lets blame Britain mentality. We have a lot to answer for including the British Empire and Commonwealth. The Common Market and Commonwealth have a lot in common, if you’ll excuse the pun. In the past, this kind of event was often tied to troubles/war in the Middle East or Eastern Europe. Lets have another recession while the supply of fuel and food is restricted and we can hike up those prices, inflation and interest rates to squeeze the people while they are stuck in a corner with nowhere to turn.
These troubles could well be a sign of things to come.
When the child continues to tantrum after they get their own way, then something is seriously amiss. The toddlers in France have actually turned up the tantrum to new levels after they got their demands. The connection between the Rothschild’s and Macron is perhaps the only reason they want daddy Macron to retire. People are wising up!
That’s my ten penneth for what it’s worth…
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L Kinder said:
Hey, that’s too bad. I didn’t think of the current French revolution being fake yet. I wasn’t thinking.
Can anyone write a paper for Miles’ updates on this? Or is someone already doing it?
We need more ways to get the word out. I sometimes give links to Miles’ updates on a forum and on some video comments. Are there better ways?
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L Kinder said:
I’ve been feeling relieved that the AGW crap and war mongering have declined quite a bit at the national level/s. But if the conservative revolution is being manipulated, I hate to think about all that crap coming back with a vengeance. I’m really more liberal (libertarian) than conservative, but the words have been losing their meaning lately. Nationalism/populism might be better terms. Steve Turley has been talking a lot about how populism has been defeating globalism almost everywhere. Maybe I’ll start warning his readers on YouTube that we’re being manipulated. What should I tell them to do about the manipulation? (Here’s Turley’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCsiAKRKcgzA_372WbXNBaw/videos )
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Jared Magneson said:
There are two chief ways to hit people in an online forum such as YouTube or Facebook with such an opinion: Smash in they’ face with the truth (as you see it), or feed them a critique sandwich.
The first way is obvious, and will either drive naysayers away or invite them – but it does have some worth because SOME people actually want to hear the truth, without bandying words or beating around the bush. Our pal Miles uses this one a lot. It’s pretty damn effective, despite the cries of the naysayers and “haters”.
The second way, sandwich good statements the poster or video or topic made with the even better statements of truth and anti-misdirection. In art, you give the artist a compliment (something you liked about their piece), a critical statement (something they could change), and then another compliment or statement of encouragement. I use this method a lot if my audience is strangers, such as public groups on social nets or whatever. You’ll get a bigger audience but you might not find anyone actually interested in learning the truth.
We don’t have to do that here because it’s not a complete mess, not yet fully populated by morons, imbeciles, and “the free range rude”. Not yet.
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cancelled said:
I don’t see much really going on in the videos, except close ups of broken glass, “blood” on the ground in one spot, noise, smoke, sirens, and a pathetic attempt at shop wrecking. That proves nothing. Fires and possibly burning cars — the fires can be added later with software. I’m always suspicious of short video footage (and stills). It’s a trick to get the viewer to substitute their own assumptions for facts. ( I learned that studying composition theory.)
Plus, to me, the energy is wrong. Violence is not calm, patient, wait and see; violence is violent. There’s no violent energy in those videos. Nobody’s out of control; nobody’s angry; nobody’s tense, that I saw. The energy suggests a drill, or staging. Also, the police dogs appeared to me to be untrained, unprofessional. They weren’t obedient to the handlers. I’ve seen police dogs working; they’re very focused. The dogs here were undisciplined.
I hesitate to resurrect WeatherWar101, but on his defunct website there’s an excellent piece on how Twitter is used to set fire to these staged “revolts” so people think they’re spontaneous. But they’re highly organized by TPTB to achieve an agenda. And where did the funding come from for all those yellow jackets? Yellow jackets — strange. Stinging insects, kind of like bees.
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cancelled said:
Yellow jackets or yellow vests: which is it?
I checked out Turley., cursorily. He seems to be trying to whip people up into a froth. Is he some kind of agent for a European Arab Spring? And he’s pushing a religious nationalism project. Why religious? That seems to have come out of left field. Problem, reaction, solution. Enter the Vatican? (It’s color, flag, is yellow.)
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Russell Taylor said:
Well a gillet is a vest styled garment not a jacket It’s not the French misnaming them.
I think you are right, it’s the colour that’s the whole point. Traffic law is just an excuse.
Talk about making yourself a clean target for a rubber bullet…phew!
Also the dominant colour in the Invictus Games symbolism. Another nest of vipers.
Just lately, communism has been made to look like oppression and liberalism has had the rug of sanity pulled from under it by the looney tunes factions of the left.
The NWO has to take a strong conservative stance to keep the middle class on their side, so to speak, eventually winning over the people’s trust. I think this will work but will be an unforeseen ruse, and eventually the people will serve under communism.
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L Kinder said:
I haven’t had that impression of Turley, that he’s trying to whip people up. To me he just seems to be happy to announce nationalist/populist victories and globalist failures and to predict a long time of more victories ahead for us anti-globalists.
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Russell Taylor said:
Cancelled
Bees, Invictus Games etc.
Is this staging the reason why the toddler is still appearing to be having a tantrum even after it got it’s own way? So much fakery….sheeeesh! You are probably right.
Remember when one of our Royals got caught in a fake riot some years ago. That was so fake it’s a wonder the rioters weren’t walking around in t-shirts with the word ACTOR printed on them.
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Jared Magneson said:
The “funding” for the vests comes from every driver being supplied or mandated to purchase one. That’s not spooky at all. In the US here, every road worker has one and every power-line worker and such as well. Most athletes (runners, cyclers) have one. That’s not weird.
Another example would be dash-cams and footage from them, which are mandatory in Russia and the Ukraine and other nations if you want to purchase auto insurance. In the US, it’s not mandatory. In many countries it is. Not spooky.
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cancelled said:
Good information. Thanks Jared and Helios.
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cancelled said:
I’m not saying those cars in the French videos weren’t really on fire. But, Here’s a video where an amateurs does a pretty convincing job of making a house look like it’s on fire with a video effects cgi program. What must Hollywood be able to simulate?
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Jared Magneson said:
ALMOST anything. Not just Hollywood, but anyone with a decent computer and a few years’ training or practice can insert and edit footage – but you will ALWAYS be able to tell when it’s fake. This is what I do for a living and I’m pretty good at it, but I can almost always spot CGI, especially in effects like fire and smoke, explosions, etc.. With my work, architectural visualization, the GOAL is to achieve photorealism and many do so with no problems at all. I’m not the best at it by a long shot, but study under many who are.
You can easily spot the difference, though:
One is my work, alone, for design purposes. The other is an entire studio, working for much more money and with more time, people, and assets available. So I very much agree about Hollywood being ABLE to do almost anything, but you can still tell the difference between reality and CGI with a bit of practice.
(in case my Imgur link didn’t work, above)
https://imgur.com/VCYOSJx
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helios22 said:
Yellow jackets (“Gilets Jaunes”) have been made mandatory a few years ago. They must be in every car and used when there is a problem, failure or accident. I don’t know who decide to use them as symbol of this mess.
There are many (fake ?) videos of the events (with police mimic yellow jackets people) and the fact it is covered is made to increase the mess.
As for the 1789 revolution, it was planned since Macron’s arrival as president (elected May 7th). A site “giletsjaunes.com” has been bought on 2017 May 15th just after Macron’s election. Last update was November 24th. Coincidence ? Of course, not.
https://www.whois.net
Domain Name : GILETSJAUNES.COM
Registry Domain ID : 2124542527_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server : whois.namebright.com
Registrar URL : http://www.DropCatch1428.com
Updated Date : 2018-11-24T09:07:29Z
Creation Date : 2017-05-15T18:13:42Z
Registry Expiry Date : 2020-05-15T18:13:42Z
Registrar : DropCatch.com 1428 LLC
Registrar IANA ID : 3637
Remember Miles had written a long paper about French Revolution : http://mileswmathis.com/frev.pdf
Marine Le Pen is part of the NWO of course. Her party served for years as repellent to promote the man who must be elected (with votes manipulated). But this time, it seems Macron will resign or will be dismissed and new elections would favor Le Pen.
@ Vexman : My best and credible YT information channel (in French) is “L’heure de se réveiller” (Time to wake up). He comes up with different matters. This is the link :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAyKkx7rjXke8qSoUmAdrxw/videos
Thanks for all your comments. See you later.
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Russell Taylor said:
So HELIOS22 am I misnaming the gilet often spelled gillet over here? The only garments in the UK called gilets are styled like a vest without sleeves, not a jacket.
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helios22 said:
Hi Russell ! My dictionary says “yellow safety vest” for our name “gilet jaune”. “Jacket” seems to be an inappropriate word, I agree. I just copied what some wrote here without verifying.
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Vexman said:
Thanks for the link, Helios.
There’s a couple of details worth mentioning about the site giletsjaunes.com. If you type the address into the browser, you land on a completely blank page, with no content at all. A simple visit to the archive.org makes possible to access the content of the mentioned site posted online at the time.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150607164954/http://www.giletsjaunes.com/
As of June 7, 2015, there is a call for a “peaceful occupation of the rectorates”, launched by the group in charge of the site: “Yellow Vests – Against the Reform of School Rhythms”.
These first “yellow vests”, which sported the logo of the same symbol as the demonstrators of today (but with the illustration of an awakening), militated indeed – as of 2013 – against the reform of the National Education which provided for the return of the school week of elementary students to 4.5 days (instead of 4).
https://www.20minutes.fr/societe/rythmes_scolaires/
Their spokeswoman, the teacher Céline Fabre, explains: “Our yellow vests had nothing to do with the current movement, even if I support some of their ideas. We had created the site giletsjaunes.org and giletsjaunes.fr, but not giletsjaunes.com. This site was created by two correspondents [of the collective] in Ain, who bought this domain name, but in 2015 it was hacked and we did not have access to it any more by the next day “.
To avoid any misunderstanding, Celine Fabre also published a Facebook post on 25th November not to confuse the two movements – this having been covered by several media at the time.
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helios22 said:
Thanks for your research, Vexman (btw, I translated several papers of your site). But the site mentioned by me above is not the same as the 2015 one.
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Vexman said:
I still think it’s the same website, Helios. The data matches on several sites and if you go to https://whoisrequest.com/history/ and type in giletsjaunes.com you’ll be able to learn that the mentioned domain name was created back in 2008, with 9 changes and 3 drops in 10 years. It was archived in 2015, which is accessible at the above link in my previous comment. So we’re talking about the same webpage.
I as well noticed that there are a few people aware of this mess and they as well blogged about it, trying to cut the fog around it.
The source of this info, that giletsjaunes.com was created just after Macron got elected, is Macron’s PR team, which is actually not a coincidence.
It’s false info, most probably spread out deliberately to add confusion. Cheap trick, but they got caught, amateurs.
However, the damage is already done as many people aren’t experienced enough to be able to check for themselves.
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Vexman said:
How to explain that the information related to the domain name “giletsjaunes.com” indicates a date of registration “May 15, 2017”, just after the election of Emmanuel Macron?
“WHOIS, as the domain name registrar, indicates the last date a domain name was created. But it does not give its original date of creation – if a domain name is effective between 2010 and 2017, but not renewed when it expires, and it is re-created in 2018, it is this last date that will appear [on the WHOIS ]”, said spokesman of Afnic, the Internet registry of domain names in .fr .
As for the postal address located in Colorado that worried TeamMacronPR, it is in no way indicative of an American creation: “The nationality of the registrar has nothing to do with the nationality of the holder: in France, we tend to choose French registrars, but this is not automatic.”
Afnic further clarified: “On .com addresses, until the implementation of the General Regulations on Data Protection (GDPR), the WHOIS systematically indicated the information of the holder, so it was common for the latter to register via a registrar, to prevent his contact information from appearing and therefore to be spammed. ”
In this case, according to the WHOIS, “giletsjaunes.com” was registered by DropCatch LLC, a specialized company, as the name implies, in drop catching. “This practice is to re-register on the fly a domain name the second it is released, which is usually done on domain names to which we lend a particular value,” says Afnic.
https://www.20minutes.fr/high-tech/2389435-20181207-non-site-gilets-jaunes-cree-juste-apres-election-macron
All that said implies there is no connection with the current movement of “yellow vests”.
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lewis reid said:
“Les Gilets Jaunes” look like lime green to me, like Munster’s away-shirt for 2014/15.
Doesn’t yellow usually denote cowardice? Whereas, Green is the colour of balance, harmony and growth—
https://www.empower-yourself-with-color-psychology.com/color-green.html
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helios22 said:
The color of our security vests is a “flashy” yellow, as they have to be very visible by other drivers, especially at night. We have one in every car, just in case. And we have a red triangle we put on the ground a few meters away of the car.
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Russell Taylor said:
HELIOS22
In the UK, a traffic police car with flashing blue strobes and 120db horn blaring won’t stop muppet motorists from carrying on as if nothing were there.
Too much fluoride I guess!
A yellow vest? They would just run you over……and they do….
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Russell Taylor said:
Lewis
Maybe the happiness associated with the colour green is locked deep in our DNA from many thousands of years seeing the trees leaf up and the grasses grow as spring starts. The warmth and plentiful food of summer is a happy p[lace to be for a hunter gatherer.
To this day, we still feel the warmth of the spring sun and see the leaves open and feel joy.
Even the sky is greener in summer due to the reflected light coming off all the greenery. Miles paper on the subject (fascinating insight), points out that the sky is actually green but with added violet making it appear blue. I’m sure that’s correct.
Here…have look yourselves….
http://milesmathis.com/sky.html
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lewis reid said:
One of my mates actually said ‘why are they called yellow vests, they’re slime-green’ yesterday morning, I agreed, and on RT news they still seem green to me, and that’s not a jaundiced view. (Sorry, I couldn’t resist the last remark.)
Talking of colours, I did hear on QI. that the ancient Greeks had no word for blue, and likewise there was no word for orange in English afore 1512 AD, so folks with ginger hair like myself were called redheaded, robins, redbreasts, etc.
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Russell Taylor said:
Lewis
Could it be the slime green effect is due to a digital camera’s white balance making an error when trying to work out what the colour actually is?
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nada0101 said:
I don’t watch mainstream bollox anymore; nor do I pay attention to many altmedia news sites. So I know hardly anything about these Paris protests (some of headlines have leaked into my consciousness tho’).
Rule #1 If the mainstream is highlighting all these events, then there is the strong possibility that we’re witnessing the usual bollox. The fact that this revolution has its own colour only adds to my scepticism. Note that this doesn’t mean that the majority of the protesters are not genuine — isn’t that how it always works, bring in some honest folks to be the patsy for your scheme?
It took me a while to accept that all reported events are most likely bollox. So I’m filing the “yellow vest” malarkey as, in all likelihood, more malarkey 😉
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nada0101 said:
Note that in the list of demands posted they go on about taxes and are very light on “mass migration”. I’d take it more seriously if they highlighted the banksters, the EU, the long running mass migration scam to change our demographics and the fact that the money was always there…it just never went to the people. Raising or lowering taxes is a fake “left v right” narrative.
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Vexman said:
Nada, at first you admit you don’t follow either MSM or alt media, then you go criticizing some posted list of demands. I’d put some trust in any source claiming to have such list only if it was written in French. True French people don’t care much about us, the English spoken people. But the language isn’t enough in this case to be able to judge an authenticity of any list.
Can you share a source for your claims?
I agree, these latest events are not about lowering taxes. They’re about much more important issues. But you can’t expect all of the participants to be able to see or know everything we discuss here. In average, you’ll be disappointed anywhere you go, people don’t like the naked truth too much. Anyway, all this that has been going on in France lately seems like a very promising beginning of something that’s good for us commoners. I’m already enjoying a nice price cut in my diesel price, so my big “thank you” goes to them. Actually, I have a bad feeling about it for not helping them so far….
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nada0101 said:
Hi Vexman, I’m only using the list that was posted by another commentator, That’s the source I’m criticizing based on what limited knowledge I have gleaned about how the world works. I also don’t pay attention to “many” altmedia sites — but I still follow MM’s stuff, this site and one or 2 others. I think it is an entirely reasonable stance to be totally skeptical of these events.
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nada0101 said:
Alright, I read over the demands again and I did missed this information posted at the bottom (something about an updated list):
“- leave EU and NATO”
That is getting to the heart of it, imo. So perhaps I am being too skeptical.
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Vexman said:
Here’s one photo with a special slogan that’s not yet officially entered the list of demands:
That’s the spirit, Vive la résistance!
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Russell Taylor said:
Vexman
Vive La Moose! https://averageoutdoorsman.com/mp3/moose/Moose%20%28Bull%29.mp3
They should all dress like the stage act at a Heilung concert and play Moose calls through a PA system.
Scare the bejeezus out of the police!
Their rubber bullets would just bounce off the shields too.
I know….wtf does this have to do with the French? Just offering up some tips to make the protest more entertaining….
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nada0101 said:
The site below is taking the protests seriously, i.e. as a genuine movement. As for myself, as soon as I heard there was a colour involved, I rolled my eyes.
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2018/12/pt-1-gilet-jaunesyellow-vests-vs-yellow.html
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L Kinder said:
Hey, Josh. Would it be feasible to have a SCIENCE thread, to discuss alternative science findings, including Miles’?
I was reading through a few threads and noticed the term TPTB a few times. That term nauseates me greatly. I don’t like at all to show the ruling class any respect by calling them anything like “Powers”. I feel much better calling them TJTB, “The Jackasses That Be.” Likewise, I guess the term “ruling class” would be more properly called the “Jackass ruling class”.
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Josh said:
Sorry but I’m not inclined to do that, Lloyd, since there is already a post on Mathisian physics plus many other forums for discussion of alternative science findings.
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cancelled said:
The Vatican is a big player behind the mass immigration, beavering away assiduously behind the scenes.
Tomorrow, December 10, the Intergovernmental Conference to Adopt the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly, and Regular Migration (GCM) will convene in Marrakech, Morocco to seal the deal.
https://refugeesmigrants.unorg/migration-compact
The Vatican, together with the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes, of Malta — or, the Order of Malta, as they describe themselves for the benefit of the public — have been actively involved in assisting the migration into Europe for some time now.
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2018-12/global-compact-migration-order-malta-boeslager.htm
This Order of Malta has been around since the 1st Crusade, circa 1050. It currently runs medical, social, and humanitarian projects in 120 countries, with diplomatic status and “able to intervene on an international level as a mediator in disputes.” It has permanent observer status at the UN. Very powerful.
Here is an entity that since 1798 (thanks to Napoleon) owns no territory, yet is officially regarded as a sovereign state. In 2013, the Order of Malta had 13,500 Knights worldwide, working to further its agenda. Still answering to the Pope. Spread out everywhere.
I could not for the life of me find out who those Knights are.
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Jared Magneson said:
Perhaps we could start analyzing all the currently-fake-knighted “knights”, and either exclude them or not? The Knights Malta, the Knights Templar – any time we see the word “knight” we could read it as a spook indicator, really. I don’t know how critical it is to out these people, any more than outing a CIA or NSA agent as being a spook. Pretty much the same thing.
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Gerry said:
Malta was a Phoenician trading hub, and also has megalithic structures from pre-Phoenician times. Wikipedia even links to a silly article saying that Malta should be renamed “Phoenicia”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malta&oldid=872898477#Greeks,_Phoenicians,_Carthaginians_and_Romans
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malta&oldid=872898477#Prehistory
https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111001/letters/Renaming-Malta-the-Republic-of-Phoenicia.387184
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Gerry said:
The Order of Malta was was founded by MERCHANTS, with permission from the CALIPH of EGYPT.
The order was founded in JERUSALEM, then expanded via Cyprus, Rhodes, Malta down to the CARIBBEAN.
Some Malta knights were later involved in the MISSISSIPPI Company, which created one of the world’s first FINANCIAL BUBBLES.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta&oldid=872277892#Founding
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta&oldid=872277892#Colonies_in_the_Caribbean
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hospitaller_colonization_of_the_Americas&oldid=870701522#Legacy
So, who were those Malta knights? Honest, devout Christians? Or just the usual globalized, irreligious BANKSTERS & MONEYGRUBBERS? Your choice. 😉
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Crow's Nest said:
Perhaps Malta ties in with the ancient bees/honey symbolism:
“The most common etymology is that the word Malta is derived from the Greek word μέλι, meli, “honey”.[29] The ancient Greeks called the island Μελίτη (Melitē) meaning “honey-sweet”, possibly for Malta’s unique production of honey; an endemic subspecies of bee lives on the island.[30]”
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lewis reid said:
The Maltese language is Semitic, descended from Siculo-Arabic:
‘The Maltese language has historically been classified in various ways, with some claiming that the ancient Punic** language (another Semitic language) was its origin instead of Siculo-Arabic, while others believed the language to be one of the Berber languages (another family within Afroasiatic), and under the Fascist Kingdom of Italy, it was classified as regional Italian’:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_language
**Phoenician
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DF said:
A yellow-jacket is a type of bee . The symbolism is little red-flaggy to me .
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said:
” …. I agree, these latest events are not about lowering taxes. They’re about much more important issues. But you can’t expect all of the participants to be able to see or know everything we discuss here. In average, you’ll be disappointed anywhere you go, people don’t like the naked truth too much. Anyway, all this that has been going on in France lately seems like a very promising beginning of something that’s good for us commoners…… ”
It’s not that I would not want something positive to happen to the average person living anywhere ,
and I don’t want to bee , er , be too negative about this latest French surrender ( this time the Gov’t. giving in to the destructive public mob ) but if these grass roots protesters were not a project , approved by both Left / Right , I feel they would have been stomped down into shallow graves for disrupting the money systems .
Mostly I see all , so called Politics as much like a sports betting , where the house has to keep everything close to 50/50 to avoid big loses , need the Right/Left , even in number of believers .
May the positive Spirits of Creation Bless any true revolutionaries who are not actors in on another Project .
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DF said:
Another chapter in the fake history of controlled opposition ? , along side the Tea-Party™ and Occupy Wall St.™ gangs .
Makes me actually wonder now about ” the Resistance ” during WW2 , more managers ? , loyal to the script ? .
” Jean Pierre Moulin was born at 6 rue d’Alsace in Béziers (Hérault), son of Antoine-Émile Moulin and Blanche Élisabeth Pègue. He was the grandson of an insurgent of 1851. Antoine-Émile Moulin was a lay teacher at the Université Populaire and a Freemason at the lodge Action Sociale. Jean Pierre Moulin was baptized on August 6, 1899[2]….. …… In Henri IV high school of Beziers, he was an average student.[citation needed]
In 1917, he enrolled at the Faculty of Law of Montpellier, where he was not a brilliant student. However, thanks to the influence of his father, he was appointed attaché to the cabinet of the prefect of Herault under the presidency of Raymond Poincaré. ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Moulin
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DF said:
from : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance
” Jews were over-represented at all levels of the French Resistance. Studies show that although Jews in France constituted only one percent of the French population, they comprised ~15–20 percent of the Resistance.[230]…”
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DF said:
A comment before this one above sent to moderation , makes it out of my intended context ,
did I spend hours studying this subject ? no , but it sure fits into the patterns I have spent hours reading about .
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Vexman said:
@Jared, in reply to the posted video of Toulouse riots
“I hate to naysay or dash your hopes, Vex, but it really just looks like standard-fare pseudo-revolution to me. That’s five hours of almost nothing.”
I don’t know what you’ve been expecting to see. These guys don’t have anybody in charge, there is no commander of rioting force to give instructions, there was no planning other than to meet in the streets and block roads for indefinite time. There was no strategy and there was no concrete opponent to face (i.e. the State) other than policemen, who were sent to re-establish order in the streets. Tactics? 99.999% of all protesters have never been in touch with tear gas or rubber bullets, so I guess when it came to violence there was only one tactic prevailing – run and hide. Luckily, in Toulouse wasn’t as bad as in Paris.
Btw, have you seen this video, where allegedly one of the yellow vests’ member gets shot down? It looks as if he / she was shot with a sniper and then some 2 secs after there is another tracing shot that can be seen in the video:
Is this real or CGI, what’s your take? I found one source saying: ” This protester was shot like a dog while his hands were up. This happened in the background of a live LCI. However, no media found this information and the lying government was careful not to talk about it. A yellow vest confirmed the death of the protester (see below). She claims that CRS tried to resuscitate her for 2 minutes but was declared dead by the firefighters who arrived later.”
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Jared Magneson said:
I watched it a few times to be sure, but it’s not “CGI” in the real sense. The guy appears to stop and fall, as from a heartshot perhaps, but there’s no resolution and no way of knowing anything else about his role. The “tracer” however seems to be moving far too slow to be a real tracer, so it’s either a video artifact or an overlay. Bullets move much faster than that, especially rifle fire.
It has been reported that several deaths (murders) have occurred at the hands of la policia, but considering this happens every day anyway, it’s hard to say what to think of it. As usual, they surround the topic in as much confusion as possible.
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R T said:
Maybe he was tasered?
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Jared Magneson said:
Tasers have a very limited range though, and we don’t see anyone nearby to hit him with one. It looks much like any other fall, perhaps medical and perhaps not. So easily faked that without any more data, I don’t think we can really render a judgement. So low-resolution that we can’t possibly see any blood even if there was some. In every rifle kill I’ve seen, there’s definitely a spray of blood or vital matter but we don’t have any resolution to work with here. Stills are pointless. The original poster didn’t bother to upload the video itself, but rather a video OF a video, which is always just fucking terrible.
Inconclusive on its own. And if police snipers (French police snipers? Really) had the go-ahead to just shoot people, why just this guy? The sniper should have been taking out these people the entire time. It should have been similar to what we’re told about Charles Whitman at Texas A&M, for example. If you know you can get away with sniping fools and have the mandate of the State, why would you just drop one opponent?
It makes no sense either direction to me.
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Vexman said:
Ok, thanks. Some French blogs refer to tha fallen person as a she. I still don’t know what to make of that video. No MSM media talks about it at all, so we have nothing to start with. To my amateur eye, she looks like fatally injured with a single shot, but it’s possible she went into a cardiac arrest due to adrenaline ovedose or something. Impossible to be sure what happened just by watching a single low-quality video.
In France it seems a standard police procedure to aim for head and vital parts with a flash ball and/or rubber bullets, something I haven’t heard of in Europe before. Here is one video of a guy getting shot in the stomach area, there are several videos beside this one that show serious head and eye injuries of some unlucky protesters.
You mentioned that Toulouse didn’t see any action, check out this collection of pics and vids here, Paris is included, dated Dec 8 2018.
https://imgur.com/gallery/SMowqem
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R T said:
125,000 (8) took to the street, and 1383, aces, eights, and 33.
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Vexman said:
I noticed, RT, thanks. If you’d like to be suspicious about numerology in this case, there’s a couple of elevens integrated as well: the image collection was uploaded on 12/8/2018 -> which is 11 / 11. But the homework includes all aspects to be equally checked – all these numbers should be implying something fishy is going on, but I can’t notice any other marker of a TV hoax that these numbers are supposed to imply: there are no bad actors talking nonsense, lack of 24/7 false reporting on TV news (although this is slightly changing in the last 10 days), no YT or other alt media debunking of any MSM video material that could be found anywhere on the web, no real movement leaders are publicly known to help discredit and distort reality, etc. In fact, it seems quite the opposite. There were attempts to try and discredit the uprising – a cheap PR trick coming from Macron’s team that tried to connect Gilets Jaunes (and their web page) with the leading political party or false news reports about protesters using extreme violence while en massè looting. It seems as the presence of a few numbers with otherwise spooky numerology is another trick, where they want to maximize confusion by publishing officially spooky numbers to achieve their usual effect. Well, it’s not working on its own, is it?
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Russell Taylor said:
Talking of numerology, the Voyager probes have both left the building.
One is…get this….11 billion miles away and the other 22 billion miles away.
Do I see a 33 lurking in there somewhere? Three times the hoax number 11 too.
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Josh said:
I do hope the movement and the protests are authentic. I’m not going to spend time poring over footage, though, because even if the movement and the protests are not controlled, they soon will be.
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Runar said:
I have no problems believing the gilet jaunes movement is real. I left France the day before the strike started, happily, as they are very customed in striking and then also blocking roads. The atmosphere at the pubs i went to, told me people were pissed off. Very little left of respect for the elite. Now i hear about infiltration attempts, cars burning, allegedly by the gilet jaunes, but its a thing which young muslims do.
Macron had some troubles as i was there with MSM as he had made some honor visit to a Nazi grave. I thought, yes of course this is an open arm to the Muslims. And now we see he is trying to shepherd immigrants to make opposition to the GJs. It will be noticed, plus there are reports the immigrants are using this occasion for looting.
Also he tried to speak for an EU army which people really thinks is way off the top. And it is. To give the merchant kings their own army without responsibilities to any EU country is insane. But the Strasbourg incident seems to be used to create opportunities. This may be our case.
Lacking aggressivity in protesting videos? Yes of course, protesting is an political act and there is no place for showing aggressivity or violence, unless you want to be associated with shit. And it would be so little French.
Also the police have several places taken side and taken off helmets to show approval.
The list of demands are what you get when no think tank have designed it, but is instead a list gathered from many people, thinking differently.
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Russell Taylor said:
In the UK we call those vests ‘High Vis’ as in high visibility vests.
Someone certainly intends this whole strung out event as a highly visible visual feast for the public.
Can’t tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys?
Get them to wear the most visible clothing there is!
Even visible at night with very little light and at great distances.
They may as well wear flashing strobes on their heads….
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DF said:
– Time magazine’s 2018 person of the year are 4 journalists ( including Jamal Khashoggi ) and a newspaper. ……. Time Magazine shows two of the four covers for the “Person of the Year,” announced Tuesday, Dec. 11, 2018.
Gotta laugh :
” Time Person of the Year: ‘The Guardians and the War on Truth’ ”
Time editor Ed Felsenthal wrote.
Felsenthal unveiled the covers on the “Today” show on Tuesday.
“As we looked at the choices, it became clear that the manipulation and abuse of truth is really the common thread in so many of this year’s major stories.” he said.
The ” newspaper ” being ” honored ” is :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Gazette_shooting
“… Its offices are located at 888 Bestgate Road in Parole, an unincorporated area of Anne Arundel County just outside Annapolis ( Maryland ).”
So best gatekeeper award ?
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MathisderMaler said:
Anne Arundel County? Look her up. This is a “we are here” flag.
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cancelled said:
For what it’s worth, a stuntman scene from the movie “Bandits” — “he falls good.”
htttps://youtu.be/7bt9Eh9LHM
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cancelled said:
Hey, that’s strange. I posted the YT link, and it came up under DF’s name.
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R T said:
You posted it and he embedded it?
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lewis reid said:
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R T said:
One of these days the muses will strike again, but they sure are taking their time this Christmas season. I’m getting the shakes… I need a new Miles paper and I need it NOW! (Just kidding Miles. No pressure. I just can’t wait for a new paper!)
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Jared Magneson said:
@ R T (Russell Tropinksy):
He just dropped another science-bomb on Velikovsky, if you’re interested. A nice analysis of catastrophism in my opinion. Much more clarity and mechanics than anything we get from the mainstream, ever.
Beyond Velikovsky
by Miles Mathis
Click to access vel2.pdf
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R T said:
THANK YOU!!!!! For some reason that was not updating for me when I would search his science page.
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Josh said:
We’ll surprise, surprise, surprise: “Ocasio-Cortez Reveals Jewish Heritage at Hanukkah Event: ‘My Family Was Sephardic’ Incoming Democratic congresswoman says it’s the first time she’s shared her Jewish heritage in public: ‘Our destinies are tied beyond our understanding.'”
No, we understand all too well.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-ocasio-cortez-claims-jewish-heritage-at-ny-event-my-family-were-sephardic-jews-1.6727455
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Crow's Nest said:
I found the following link within a Washington Post article on the same story about Ocasio-Cortez:
“A surprise in Paul Ryan’s ancestry: He’s slightly Jewish”
Ryan, a practicing Catholic, is 3 percent Jewish. More precisely, he’s 3 percent Ashkenazi Jewish, with eastern European roots.
‘We don’t know who that Jewish person was, but we know it was on his mother’s German line, which makes sense. So somebody who was a Christian German slept with a Jewish German person and that’s where that came from.’
Gates said his research took him all the way back to Ryan’s 10th great-grandfather who was born in 1531 in Germany, AP reported.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/01/a-surprise-in-paul-d-ryans-ancestry-hes-slightly-jewish/?utm_term=.1b06fbf5c4ec
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ihatestarwars said:
Is he slightly freemasonry as well?
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Crow's Nest said:
Paul Ryan was a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity:
“…In late 1858 a group of students met in the Dowdell boarding house to discuss means to regain control of the Neotrophian Society [a literary society] and return control to the students at large. The underlying controversy was that the Neotrophian Society, in the opinion of the eight men who formed Delta Tau Delta, had awarded a literary prize after a rigged vote.[5] A constitution, name, badge, ritual and motto were devised, and Delta Tau Delta was born.”
So, the fraternity was born out of a conspiracy.
“In 1886, Delta Tau Delta merged with the secret society known as the Rainbow Fraternity, a southern fraternity founded in 1848 at the University of Mississippi.[7] As an ode to the merged fraternity, Delta Tau Delta Chapters perform a public ceremony, the Rite of Iris. The national organization’s seasonal magazine is also called ‘The Rainbow.'”
The Rainbow Fraternity? Okay.
Two spooks of the original eight founders of Delta Tau Delta:
William Randolph Cunningham – was only a freshman at the time Delta Tau Delta was formed. Because he was older and had become a Mason, he exerted much influence in the group.
Alexander Campbell Earle – was the youngest of the group of eight founders of Delta Tau Delta. He went on to become a Captain in the Second South Carolina Volunteers, where he commanded his own company. For many years his whereabouts were unknown and he was believed dead, but he was finally located living in Arkansas. He later moved to Texas, and is buried in the State Cemetery in Austin, where the local fraternity still makes an annual pilgrimage.
The fraternity has 133 active chapters in the US and their coat of arms appears as this:
List of Delta Tau Delta members:
Entertainers: Drew Carrey, Will Ferrell, James Marsden, David Schwimmer, etc.
Musicians: John Denver, R.E.M. Guitarist Peter Buck, etc.
Astronauts: M. Scott Carpenter, Ken Mattingly
Print and Journalism: mythology writer Joseph Campbell, Forest Gump author Winston Groom, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Delta_Tau_Delta_members
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DF said:
As if one would have to hide being Jewish to get elected in New York City ,
even Jesse Jackson called it Hymie-town .
Could be read a different way :
Our PRIVILEGES are tied beyond Your understanding
Our BLOODLINES are tied beyond Your understanding
Our SECRETS are tied beyond Your understanding
Our PROJECTS are tied beyond Your understanding
Our COUSINS are HIRED beyond Your understanding
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cancelled said:
@RT
Yes, I posted the link.
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DF said:
Your link didn’t work , Cancelled , so I re-posted it 😉
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helios22 said:
And another false flag in France, on December 11, in a Christmas market in Strasbourg. France is now in “urgency attack” mode, because the killer could escape…
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Josh said:
I was just there last week. I thought “this would be the perfect place for a hoaxed attack.”
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helios22 said:
Officially 3 persons killed and “11” injured. Link for Vexman in French of mainstream media : https://actu.fr/faits-divers/strasbourg-apres-fusillade-marche-noel-ferme-les-evenements-la-ville-annules_20246207.html
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helios22 said:
I forgot, the killer is 29 old (= 11).
Yes, Josh, I agree, perfect crowded place for a hoax. And old EU place.
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ihatestarwars said:
The killer was ‘known’ to secret services is always a tip-off; in other words, he was working for them.
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Amstel said:
Here are my few cents on the video of the “yellow jacket kill”; rather late than never… The published video appears to be a screen recording of a cellphone screen playing the video. Unless I’m missing something: at the time the screen recording was produced, the original video was stored on the very phone. It would seem odd to produce a screen recording of a video for distribution instead of distributing the video itself. Plus: Whoever holds the cell phone omits to turn it to “landscape mode”, i.e. horizontal. That being the case the video, even though remaining in its original resolution, does not fill the screen inits horizontal position but in its vertical position, hence in reduced size. Since the purpose of publication is to publicise something it makes no sense to minimise the impact.
What we see is a recording of a tv monitor which appears to show a broadcast of a video of some event, either live or recorded earlier, by another video device “on the scene”. This camera is far away from any happening; there is a crowd to the left, police to the right, with a pretty well composed news shot showing the largely empty middle. (The french TV people are arty and know that red and blue makes good “film”.) Other than the fire on the right edge of the image and the (impossible to identify) crowd on the left, mostly out of shot, there is nothing much to show, hence the camera follows the bloke with the yellow thingy over the shoulder in the foreground, who just happens to be there – either making a call or pretending to make one. The yellow “thingy” is either a “hook” for the viewership / audience – or he is a latecomer asking a friend if he should put on a yellow jacket and join the action… My educated guess: he is linked to the either the camera, or he’s linked to the “fall guy”. Despite both camera men delivering pretty steady hand-held work over 40 secs (appear to know at least some basics of a halfway decent shot) – our “A” man at some stage zooms in about 1/3 on the small crowd, which includes “fall guy”. After the action the zoom lever either broke or he lost interest to zoom in further. Inconsistent. If he didn’t see action developing, why did he zoom in the first place?- And our double screen-recorder obviously never watched an image on his mobile phone before or purposely strained all viewers eyes. And the person posting it was out of a data plan and chose crappy 240p resolution? For authenticity / verification purposes it would have been helpful if there had been a network identification on the filmed screen. Unfortunately, it’s also missing.
Give me a break… It’s complete rubbish, reminiscent of Bataclan and the “pregnant dangler” on top of a street theatre group performing the acting exercise “fleeing from heavily armed gun men” who supposedly just missed to shoot about 1,000 targets right in front of them in a crowded room. Bono perhaps back in France for another photo opportunity??
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DF said:
One other thing I noticed in another vid , is the camera person NOT COMING IN CLOSER or FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH MORE VIDEO EVIDENCE , seems like someone documenting the situation would do that .
I mostly talking about the lady hit in the face with a projectile and there is blood .
The blood looks very bright ( fake ? ) .
Why is there NOT more immediate coverage of the injury .
One thing is certain , much much CHAOS is being created so …….?
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L Kinder said:
Speaking of Malta, what about the Maltese Bippy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqkPD0Q-sz8
What was the bippy and what did it have to do with Malta?
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L Kinder said:
Or, better yet, the Maltese Falcon? http://mentalfloss.com/article/76041/13-mysterious-facts-about-maltese-falcon
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L Kinder said:
Wikipedia says “French period
Main article: French occupation of Malta
The Knights’ reign ended when Napoleon captured Malta on his way to Egypt during the French Revolutionary Wars in 1798. Over the years preceding Napoleon’s capture of the islands, the power of the Knights had declined and the Order had become unpopular. This was around the time when the universal values of freedom and liberty were incarnated by the French Revolution. People from both inside the Order and outside appealed to Napoleon Bonaparte to oust the Knights. Napoleon Bonaparte did not hesitate. His fleet arrived in 1798, en route to his expedition of Egypt. As a ruse towards the Knights, Napoleon asked for safe harbour to resupply his ships, and then turned his guns against his hosts once safely inside Valletta. Grand Master Hompesch capitulated, and Napoleon entered Malta.[104]
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ihatestarwars said:
Here is a commercial break:
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DF said:
Lol ,Thanks IHSW , all we get here is crap like :
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
@Amstel:
“Here are my few cents on the video of the “yellow jacket kill”; rather late than never. The published video appears to be a screen recording of a cellphone screen playing the video……Give me a break. It’s complete rubbish…”
Excellent post, which confirmed my thoughts that this was yet another staged fake event. This article from the Telegraph first rang the alarm bells; see how many fake photos you can find here…
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/24/paris-police-fire-tear-gas-yellow-vest-protesters-marching-elysee/
Adding to your thoughts on the video, some other oddities…
No sign that the few people near the man are being spooked by the sound of a gunshot, and nobody seems to have noticed the fallen person. Smoke bomb (or tear-gas?) conveniently obscures the view of the aftermath just after the man runs in stage left to render assistance.
Interesting that the video was posted by a fake man (Guy Fawkes) – how they do love to leave obvious clues to their silly storylines. Perhaps yet more to come on this small story?
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Jared Magneson said:
This “fauxto” in particular is just terribly Photoshopped. Someone’s parents should be ashamed. The guy, the fire, AND the truck have all been pasted in, and poorly.
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R T said:
While my novice eyes can only spot inconsistencies on the outside of the can he’s holding, I’m eager to hear if you’d be willing to point out some of the things that really stick out to your eye, as an expert in the field of graphics. This is always very fun for me.
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R T said:
Now that I look closer, that flag is very poorly blended into the background. It’s obvious even to me now.
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Grace said:
So fake!
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Michael Deloatch said:
Gee I hope you at least accept the reality of this horrific scene
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Jared Magneson said:
The first one isn’t much better. Look at the foreground, where we see areas of pinkish-orange on the gray stone. It looks like they tried to mimic a reflection of all that fire, but just painted in the tone instead of duplicating the fire layer, flipping it vertically, and color-burning it in properly like a fucking adult. Nowhere does it actually match up with the flames we’re seeing:
Also note the clarity of those flames, compared to the relative noise of the entire rest of the photo. And nowhere do we see the actual orange as a reflection on any of the people, their clothing, their shiny vests, etc. Those foreground-left three guys should be limned by the firelight, on their right edges and tops. Same with the guy in dark clothing to the right of it, apparently filming the fakery.
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Wayne G. said:
As it is for all of us, finding facts anywhere these days is a tad difficult, to say the least. Gave up on truth, since like beauty, it’s in the eye of the beholder. Hadn’t paid much attention to the “Yellow Vests” because, what’s real anymore? Read some puff pieces, which now passes as journalism and some other “on the ground” examples. Left me scratching my head. Like most here, blew the whole thing off. But Vexman and the lack of MSM attention made me curious. Found some info at ICH, which says some of the action is real, some is staged and the yellow vest concept Is spreading to Belgium, Netherlands and Italy. Interestingly, the police are said to be “supportive” of the vests, as they face the same issues, yet they are still mopping the floors with the protestors. The main thrust is still in petrol prices, which have been (temporarily) rolled back, though more and more is being mentioned on the social side. There is also a sideline of Macron having overstepped and derelict in his duties to the spooks and the governors. They are not happy with his European Army concept and he may be losing his banking/financiers’ footing. The lack of protest leadership is slippery footing. Who the hell is running the show? Obviously, lousy photoshop spectacles are not good for the cause, but wonder if that too isn’t part of the plan. Truth is, the governors know people are on to them, so they’ll throw any- and everything out there. Chaos is chaos after all. Kind of like publicity….
The link: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50738.htm
ICH is a mish-mash and you need to be careful. Best to search out facts and not get bogged in the whole affair. There is much sleigh of hand. Used to be better and have a very good comment section that got overrun by trolls. They killed comments for quite a while and now are allowing them again.
Getting to the point that all I can read anymore is Miles, but damn, those science articles are reeking havoc on this old brain.
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Jared Magneson said:
@Wayne G : Just take the science papers nice and easy, let them come to you naturally. Sometimes a certain concept doesn’t “click” until I’ve read it for the twelfth time, it seems like. And then sometimes I have to go back and FIND a concept to work with it, and that can be tedious too simply because it’s hard to remember what to search; how he phrased it.
It’s weird for me because the guy has all the science stuff and ALL the social/historical commentary, but it’s the same dude. It’s my bias. His science is so devastating, the way his mind works, that I can’t help but side with him when he writes on other stuff, almost entirely. The guy has developed trust with his readers. I try to remain objective and critical but he’s almost always just done that for us, in his writing style and thinking. It’s amazing.
“Interestingly, the police are said to be “supportive” of the vests, as they face the same issues, yet they are still mopping the floors with the protestors.”
I think that’s why these events are so hard to relate to, for me. The absolute lack of tactics or aggression on the part of the “protestors”. They bring a guillotine to a fight, but refuse to use it? Anyone who’s been in the military (or played any video game in the last 30 years) knows better than that. It’s pathetic to me. Begging their (our) masters for a say in reality? Just reach out and TAKE it! It’s right there, nearly! But then I recall that these European folk aren’t armed to the teeth and look at their history… Who do the French surrender to, when fighting themselves?
And last for now, my father’s name is G. Wayne Magneson. If you’re him in disguise, you’re busted, Pops. 😉 Call me.
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L Kinder said:
CHILD ABUSE, MANDATORY REPORTING, HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
I have a young woman friend with a young daughter. She was sexually assaulted in March and got a concussion and almost died. They went to a women’s shelter for a few months, but some of the staff warned her that she could lose her daughter if she didn’t find a place to live by a certain date. So I helped her rent an apartment before that date. She had no money saved up. She has Medicaid and gets meds for herself and her daughter. She has also been seeing counselors. The counselor asked her recently a bunch of leading questions that could indicate that she or her daughter is abused by anyone. She later talked with the counselor’s supervisor about that, with me present, and that’s when I learned about Mandated Reporting of Child Abuse & Neglect. I don’t recall hearing about it before, though I’ve known about governmental abuse of parents. So now it seems most or all states have mandated reporting of suspicion of abuse or neglect. Even taking meds seems to be grounds for suspicion. It’s Insane and I’m surprised I wasn’t aware of just how Orwellian a situation the U.S. has already gotten into. It seems that almost everyone is a mandated reporter. And that’s obviously Unconstitutional.
What are these damn laws for? They pretend to be protecting kids from bad upbringing, but obviously taking kids away from their loved ones does not improve their upbringing. Who benefits from such laws? Those in the legal system benefit. Probably the medical system benefits by having more people to harmfully medicate. Foster parents benefit by receiving government aid for raising kids taken from their natural parents. The way I see it, the entire scheme is actual Human Trafficking.
Has Miles discussed this at all? He’s shown evidence that media cases of abuse are largely fake, in order to make people distrust each other and spend their money on junk that profits the system. But the above abuse certainly looks real to me. My friend has a couple of friends who lost their kids on bogus charges. And I’ve read of plenty of similar cases.
How can we end this crap?
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nada0101 said:
Miles’ piece (lol “piece”…essay, rather!) on the Spotlight film does suggest that the figures for clerical abuse are grossly inflated and that the Catholic Church plays along with this for reasons of self preservation.
I tend to agree with Miles’ logic on this, especially the absence of any irate fathers stringing up Fathers in the unfolding mainstream narrative.
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Russell Taylor said:
NADA0101″….self preservation”
In the case of the Catholic Church, shouldn’t that be ‘self persecution’?
Lent…suffering and all that?
I’m sure Miles has a valid point because so many other areas of the social network are controlled in a similar manner. I have known several women (am I still allowed to call them that?), who have confessed to being abused by their fathers and father’s friends, and all but one were the daughters of clergy.
L Kinder
In the UK in 1986 Dame Esther Louise Rantzen set up Child-Line for abused kids to get in touch, and ‘out’ abusive parents and the like.
In the years that followed there were many stories about false accusations, ending with the breakdown/breakup of dozens of perfectly innocent families.
This of course played into the hands of the conspiracy theories of the time which claimed that hundreds of children were being stolen, trafficked, groomed etc, to supply an increasing demand from a world-wide paedophile ring.
This has been proven to some extent with the recent jailing of Muslim men running grooming rings (religion being used as a base of trust again?)
She has now set up another helpline, which could also be abused in itself, to help ‘lonely people’.
There’s the obvious factor whereby stepping in to help lonely people may reduce the number of suicides and self harming, and every corner of society has it’s quota of people who will take advantage of such help.
Lines drawn in sand are soon made indistinct and have to be redrawn. I wonder how much power Dame Rantzen’s policies have to prevent honour killings and forced marriages? Or … dare I include it…genital mutilation….OK for some religions but not for others?
A huge can of worms including real abuse and abuse of power, position and trust, I’m sure of that.
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Wayne G. said:
@Jared. LMAO. Yes you little twit, I’ve been trolling you for ages now under many aliases. Busted or not, I lost your number and don’t remember my way home!! Adulting was bad enough, but this aging thing…sucks large boulders….
Miles gave me the same advice per the science material. That’s difficult since I tend to dive into everything. During the ‘08 fiscal fiasco I spent countless hours engulfed in a sovereign money and mathematician’s websites. The only thing I felt I knew about economics and money was that I never had either. Science goes waaaay back to high school and before and often kept my “report cards” quite colorful. Mostly because teachers got sick of my constant questioning. Was as sceptical then as now but became acutely aware of the necessity of learning to play the game. Which would have been fine…except for the constant unannounced rule changes.
Wandered into Miles three years ago from a link somewhere and into his small encyclopedia called the Tate/Manson misgivings. That “event” happened less than two months after graduating from high school and on my parents wedding anniversary. It wasn’t the first event that my mind proclaimed, “WTF?” but was one of the first that truly shook me to the core. Completely non-sensical. Spent the next three to four months (close to 24/7) absorbing everything I could stuff into the cranial cavity from MWM. It was mind bobbling at a point when my life was unraveling. There was scepticism, specially in the genology material. Eventually the preponderance of evidence was inescapable. The art/literature material wasn’t nearly as surprising since that was a large part of my background and already intimately knew many of the ropes therein. The math portion was also less surprising since I had lived the myriad changes/variables in my lifetime. Literally glanced through the science material since it was hardly a personal strong suit. The small amount read seemed to make complete sense and wondered what all the hullabaloo was about. What hit later was finally finding this group and others, realizing just how poor my grasp on the subject was. Hence the newly inflicted self torture.
Gave up years ago seeking truth since in my life I can honestly say that 99.999% of everything I was taught, told or conditioned to believe was a lie. The rest was either misinfo, misdirection or both. Tend now to just sit back and watch things unfold, then watch how the pierces fall. Truth is mailable based on bias and perception. I seek facts as best they can be found. Quite often that means reading the liars for the separation factor. Critical thinking had been rendered asunder and re- membering with it has been a life saver. And not the candy kind.
Miles challenged my mind, dusting off the cobwebs of living with eyes wide open but not seeing. As such the rest of the senses awoke, though hearing has always been an isssue. Coming here and finally being able to converse with like thinkers is amazing, though somewhat intimidating when one is a tad moronic in the sciences. Time. Flys. By. So knowledge becomes imperative within that constraint.
@Jared, I doubt seriously in being your “Pops,” however there are large periods of time for which I cannot account, so anything’s possible, as they say! But I do like the G. Wayne Magneson moniker and will consider it as yet another alias in skirting the governors and laws going forward. If we reside on the same side of the pond, I would be honored to meet my (possibly) only male child. We have many things in common. If I were (am) your Dad, you’d do me proud, though I’d still give your mouth a good soap washing, just for parental stake….
Thanks to Josh for this ever expanding thread. Miles for the wake up call, Jared for giving me, yet another child and all the rest of you for just simply being and pushing my bounds, allowing this mind to further its…er…maturing. Apologies for the novella.
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Jared Magneson said:
Oh, blessed reunion!
(joking, my dad lives about an hour away and we have a decent if distant relationship, as well as I’m one of four kids – so unless you want even MORE children, let’s just pretend you’re not my actual father?)
Also, his first name is “Glade”. So be prepared for the massive amount of bullying that goes along with such a nominal atrocity. I still tease him MYSELF about it!
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L Kinder said:
MULTIBILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY.
Parents in Action position on Mandatory Reporting (June 14, 2005 at the Fodham University School of Law)
http://www.parentsinaction.net/mandatedreporting.htm
_Preamble: Sen. Walter Mondale fathered the multi-billion [dollar?] child protection industry in America with the passage of CAPTA (Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act) in 1974 and Hillary [i.e. Bill?] Clinton greatly expanded this industry with the passage of ASFA (Adoption Safe Family Act) in 1977 [1997?].
_Dorothy Roberts’ book, Shattered Bonds: the Color of Foster Care
_Parents in Action For Leadership and Human Rights was founded in January 2000.
_We are looking for Parents, Grandparents, Activists, Attorneys, Social Workers, Psychologists, Psychiatrists, and any type of Volunteers to help us by donating some of their time, energy and talents.
_Parents in Action thanks the Child Welfare Fund for having funded our organization.
Shattered Bonds: The Color of Child Welfare [RACISM] – review of child protection data by Dorothy Roberts (Posted on September 2, 2010 by Richard Niolon PhD)
http://www.psychpage.com/bookreview/brroberts.html
Race and class in the US foster care system (Melody is an African American single parent [and her child was taken])
https://isreview.org/issue/91/race-and-class-us-foster-care-system
No Child Left Alone: Getting the Government Out of Parenting
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1594038627
According to this, https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/systemwide/laws-policies/statutes/manda/ , most states do not allow physician-patient confidentiality or husband-wife confidentiality regarding child abuse or neglect, but they allow attorney-client and clergy-penitent confidentiality.
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Wayne G. said:
@L Kinder. These laws are the usual knee-jerk reactions to a blooming social ill. They stem way back to the turbulent times of post WWII and move forward from there. The social ills were magnified with each ensuing generation. A great deal of these laws came about after the coup that took Richard Nixon down and then basically shut down actual governing after the Church hearings in the mid-70s. The socially conscience governors allowed these legislations to be enacted with much money involved within them so they could siphon much off our mores (or lack thereof). They include many forms of societal abuses mandating strict sentencing and the like. They are the typical reaction to an issue, in that they address the issue with a bit of neosporen and a bandaid, rather than to address the actual underlying causes.
They include Maditory Sentencing, HIPA laws, Domestic Violence and anything involving children, though none of them actually address the real issues, just the outcomes. They became hugely popular and wildly misused during the Clinton years under then AG, Janet Reno, who came in as a breath of fresh air and left as Paridse, CA is now…the scorched earth scenario. They are part and parcel of the Law and Order campaigns, the silent and later moral majorities (a true oxymoron), RICO acts and assorted other misuses of anything that resembles innocent until proved otherwise. You can find a great deal of these in Miles papers and by searching for Janet Reno, The Church Hearings, war on drugs and myriad other search functions from those few places as to how they came about.
If you don’t have children or have never been in situations where these “laws” are in place, you would mostly be unaware of their existence. I won’t go into details because quite frankly you could write full-fledged encyclopedia volumes on this topic. Suffice to say, they are there, dangerous and repugnant.
I applaud your action in helping this person and her child, but would be remiss if I also didn’t tell you to be careful yourself. Getting caught in the cross-hair is very easy in these things. I know from experience and it’s way worse now. Getting rid of these laws? Good luck, once on the books, laws rarely get rewritten or disposed of…unless, of course, more money can be made with newer versions.
Again, I applaud your actions.
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L Kinder said:
The Madness To The Method
http://www.parentsinaction.net/english/Mandated%20Reporting/MANDATORYREPORTINGCLOSEENOUGHFORGOVERNMENTWORK.htm
CPS operates with the group mind set of most bureaucracies. The agencies main objective is self preservation: to perpetuate the bureaucracy and to expand the bureaucracy. (Silverstorn, “The Truth About Child Protective Services”, home.attbi.com/-silverstorm/cps.htm).
The method for doing this is by seeking and making cases. CPS does not take a passive role waiting for verified cases of child abuse to be provided to them. Rather, they take an aggressive role seeking out families and children on a mere scintilla amount of evidence. The financial rewards for CPS through removal of children and placement in foster homes is not dependent upon criminal convictions or termination of parental rights. The funding is given to CPS regardless of the outcome of the case, or truth of the allegations. With absolute immunity from liability, the CPS caseworker has no fear of any repercussions for their actions.
CPS actively seeks complaints through a variety of methods. The agency has an enormous budget for propaganda campaigns, which it freely spends to generate cases and subsequent income for itself. CPS is a master manipulator of the public. The agency creates mass hysteria by a fostering a false representation of a child molester lurking behind every tree. The propaganda machine’s effectiveness is accomplished by combining two key elements. First, a product, children, a universal symbol of innocence with the need for love and protection. Second, a tried and true sales technique: fear. The fear of having our children kidnapped and murdered. The fear of our children molested. It is a fail safe combination.
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L Kinder said:
Is ebola fake?
Baby recovers from second-deadliest Ebola outbreak in Congo
https://www.sott.net/article/402898-Young-miracle-Baby-recovers-from-second-deadliest-Ebola-outbreak-in-Congo
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L Kinder said:
And what about this? Is it fake?
Woman dies from brain-eating amoeba after using Neti pot with filtered tap water in Seattle, US
https://www.sott.net/article/402470-Woman-dies-from-brain-eating-amoeba-after-using-Neti-pot-with-filtered-tap-water-in-Seattle-US
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Josh said:
What do YOU think, Lloyd?
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L Kinder said:
I read Leonard Horowitz’ books about AIDS supposedly having been created by the government after Congress approved in 1969, I think, a few million dollars to be spent to find immune system destroying viruses, which Gallo and others supposedly then created at Fort Detrick, MD. In New York vaccines given to homosexuals was contaminated somehow with the virus, as also was the New York blood bank owned by Rockefellers, which blood then infected hemophiliacs, and also vaccines given to Africans were contaminated. He figured it was for biological warfare.
But, since it appears that many or most major events are faked, it seems that it might be easy enough to have faked AIDS too. I’ve read a lot of health-related literature over the years and it seems that the medical system is often
faking things. E.g. the reason polio declined after polio vaccines came out is that the medical system started calling most polio symptoms meningitis. I don’t know if there’s evidence to back that up. But James Sloane says HIV doesn’t cause AIDS or anything else. It’s the virus Gallo discovered, but it doesn’t do anything. But Gallo got lots of money selling useless HIV tests.
I read that what gave homosexuals AIDS symptoms were usually poppers that they used for love-making. I think Sloane said the real cause of AIDS is usually a virus called H6V6 or something like that. He says chaparral and pau d’Arco are some of the best antiviral herbs, good for cancer too, which he says is mainly caused by viruses.
Horowitz discussed Ebola too, which he concluded was also a biowarfare agent. He said he’s a messianic Jew, which means one who believes “Jesus” is savior. But he can say anything. I had a health forum in the early 2000’s and one of the women on it said she used to work with Horowitz and she said he was a very abusive person, at least verbally I guess. Last I heard, he moved from Idaho to Hawaii where he had a clinic. I first heard him speak on Art Bell’s late night radio show in the 1990s.
So, anyway, I think it’s entirely possible, maybe probable, that such pathogens are fake, since the “authorities” always control major events. And it would be easy for agents to pretend to be doctors and to arrange for people to act as sick or dead people. Right?
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Russell Taylor said:
L Kinder
A strong immune system destroys hundreds of cancerous cells daily. Its learned to do that over, what, hundreds of thousands of years. Only modern poisons and so called medicines which weaken that immune system can be blamed for allowing cancers to develop.
I was told by my dentist (who now teaches dentistry), that gum disease is caused by an over active immune system, whereby the bodies own defences attack the bacteria normally found in the mouth but do damage to the gum tissue cells which look contaminated to the T cells. So effectively, your gums are attacked by your own immune system. One of the main culprits that send your immune system into a frenzy, almost daily for some people, is aluminum intake and its associated toxicity.
That’s why they use it as an adjuvant in vaccines, to give your immune system a big fright and get it up to jogging pace.
As your aluminum intake varies week by week, you may notice your gums settle down then flare up again as your immune system keeps getting a wake up call.
Cause of your food allergy….ahem?
He said that gum disease could be seen as a good thing. All your teeth may fall out as a consequence of your elevated immune response, but you should avoid cancer.
Sticking with viruses, the mainstream story says that a virus needs a warm, moist environment to spread effectively and infect someone. June in the UK is warm and usually very moist, so why no flu in summer? They say we don’t get flu in summer because it’s too dry, and in late winter the air should be too cold and dry for flu to flourish. You are most at risk in a confined space with someone who is actively sneezing or coughing in the first stages of the disease. Indoors is perfect with a high degree of both warmth and relative humidity. So they blame Bonfire night on November 5th, Christmas.and New Year. So it’s our fault, yet again, for infecting each other by being sociable, at the most sociable time of year.
Now lets look at it another way shall we?
In the UK you can almost set an alarm for the first signs of flu and common cold.
The second or third week of November are the best bet for the first sneezers to occupy your daily commuter carriage. It’s all downhill from then until Christmas.
Come the end of January flu and colds have all but vanished, until the next time.
Only once have I ever had flu in summer. I can’t remember which year but it was only a few years ago, and everyone went down with really bad flu in AUGUST!
Why does flu suddenly wake up and start infecting people around the beginning of November? The weather has zero effect. It can be freezing cold and dry, or wet and abnormally mild. It matters not, the flu season starts then. So much for their theory.
This timing also coincides with the yearly flu jab. You see the adverts in the doctors surgery advising the very old, the very young and people with serious health conditions to get their flu jab as it could save their life.
I have lost count of the number of people I have heard say they had the flu jab and went down with the worst flu they could ever remember.
Maybe it’s not a dead(?) or otherwise inert virus. Maybe it’s a full blown virus intended to infect us all. Who are the best at spreading the disease? Cuddles all round for children and grandparents. They say that as soon as your kids leave school, you and your wife will stop being ill. How very true!
Wasn’t it Donald Rumsfeld, when exiting a conference back in the ’80s, who told a press reporter (in jest), “It’s a pity we can’t make them ill, so we can sell them more drugs”. I believe he had just joined Monsanto as an active chairman on the board of directors or some such career move.
Isn’t that what they do every year? Infect the population with flu, some people paying for the privilege and others getting it free from the tax payer. Either way it’s a multi-billion dollar industry for each and every large pharmaceutical company. But hang on, what happens to all these poor flu victims every year? They spend more billions of dollars on flu remedies….it’s a win win for big pharma!
Being old and observant is often more fruitful towards ones education than trying to glean something useful from the internet. Like 50 years of cooking your own food for instance…..and lots of Night Nurse…..
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Wayne G. said:
@Jared. Not sure why I cannot reply to your reply, but anyway, what’s a few more kids? I raised four that weren’t mine so what’s a four more! I have one daughter and a granddaughter that actually bear my genes. I’m pretty sure. I literally laughed out loud when I read your response this morning. Thanks, made for a great start to the day.
Glade Wayne?!! That’s a very unusual name. Wayne is weird enough as I’ve met less than a handful in my life. Kinda like the Glade name though, seems very refreshing! Does your Dad go by Wayne or Glade? I did my name search a few years ago just for a laugh, figured nothing would come up. Shock of all shocks, there are tons of me scattered around the world. Yikes!!
Thanks also for the “take it slow and easy” approach to Miles science articles. I needed that, though I kinda knew that’s what I should do after starting to read them. Just difficult to control my mind when it gets up and running.
*Pops*
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lewis reid said:
On RT today, gilets jaune in Tel Aviv. One huge banner said ‘Crime Minister’ with Netanyahoo’s face. Three women interviewed, basically saying, fuel costs have gone up and only politicians’ wages.
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L Kinder said:
I came across this news today from a couple days ago: “Sandy Hook School Receives Threat on Shooting Anniversary”. Since Miles doesn’t seem to have anything on Sandy Hook, I did a websearch on “Sandy Hook Hoax” and found this article: https://newsspellcom.org/2017/05/15/columbine-and-sandy-hook-hoax-connections/
Wow!
The guy has apparently similar revelatory blog articles going back two years. His conclusions are very similar to Miles’ and maybe even more radical. He claims the Supreme Court is faked and much of the federal government is. He explains how the media corporations use contracted actors from acting families to stage events. I’ve only read part of 2 articles so far. He seems to say that Tipper Gore is the singer Grace Slick and other characters are played by the Douglas family. Astin family members played at Columbine and Sandy Hook.
Hopefully, the site is real and not controlled opposition. I haven’t found the blogger’s name yet, but he shows his face. I guess I’d have to sign up on the site to see his bio.
Any comments?
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L Kinder said:
In the first blog post on the site at https://newsspellcom.org/2016/08/ the blogger says: “the illusion of 911, which was nothing more than an altered broadcast featuring the controlled demolition of some New York buildings and the Pentagon, sold to the public as some ridiculously conceived international terror plot”.
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L Kinder said:
I just want to add another Sandy Hook Hoax truther site. Truthers are hard to find.
33 Unanswered Questions on Sandy Hook’s 3rd Anniversary
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/12/33-unanswered-questions-on-sandy-hooks-3rd-anniversary.html
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lewis reid said:
Miles has written about Sandy Hook, and updated them several times –
Click to access sh7.pdf
33 questions? Not 47?
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R T said:
That’s entirely too many, Reid; I can only think of 8!
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Wayne G. said:
@lewis reid
@R T
Actually, 33 + 47 = 80; 8 + 0 = 8
Math checks out….
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Jared Magneson said:
Yeah, Miles has at least 4 papers on Shady Hook. He tore it to shreds immediately, when it occurred.
Click to access sh.pdf
Click to access sh3.pdf
Click to access sh4.pdf
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L Kinder said:
I searched on Sandy Hook. Maybe I should’ve guessed he’d call it Shady Hook.
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Jared Magneson said:
Except he doesn’t use “Shady Hook”, in his titles. He uses “Sandy Hook”, as we would expect.
http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html
Ctrl-F for “Find in this page”, as usual, and type in “Shady Hook” and you’re there.
A Google search pulls up papers #1 and #3 immediately, so I don’t know what search terms you were using that didn’t do so. “Miles Mathis Sandy Hook” gets you there immediately, also on DuckDuckGo or Bing.
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Josh said:
I checked it out. This guy with his professional headshot stinks to high heavens of disinfo agent. What’s remarkable is how much overlap there is between what Miles has work and the ideas this guy (or his committee) parrotts. He’s even got a two part text on how the CIA destroyed art.
One problem with that essay is that it contradicts itself in several places. These jerkoffs are trying to mimic Miles but since they can’t rub two neurons together to save their lives it all comes out a big mess.
One of the big giveaways is the tone of the writing. Notice how it all sounds so authoritative. They guy had everything figured out and now he’s going to tell you how it is. It just reads like propaganda. Contrast this with Miles’ work where he takes you through the evidence, sort of taking you through the thought process he used to come to the conclusions that he did. It’s like night and day.
Another tip-off is good regurgitation of familiar conspiracy memes like the three city states that rule the world and that the Jesuits run the show. And many others.
You wrote: “He seems to say that Tipper Gore is the singer Grace Slick and other characters are played by the Douglas family. Astin family members played at Columbine and Sandy Hook. Hopefully, the site is real and not controlled opposition.”
Come on! Tipper Gore is Grace Slick? It’s obvious BS and so obviously this site is controlled opposition. And not only that but obviously aimed at Miles since it makes or tries to make many similar arguments.
The only thing that surprised me is that this guy doesn’t seem to be promoting flat Earth. I didn’t scan through his entire archive so maybe I’m wrong and he is a flat earther. If not, I predict he will soon be one.
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L Kinder said:
To Jared, I searched site:http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html . I forgot to remove the “updates.html” portion. My mistake.
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Jared Magneson said:
The media is littered with reports of Yellow Vest protests in England, ireland, and other places now. It’s definitely turning into another huge fake movement, and it’s almost amusing how easily people latch onto it.
Of course I’d love to see a real change in the world, but when the Powers That Be are controlling the changes there’s no faith to be had in anything important happening.
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Wayne G. said:
Actually, I was going to ask our across the pond friends what exactly was going on over yonder, since some reading late last night on the May or May-not trials and tribs of one over-her-head PM. There were veiled whispers of Yellow Vest activity upcoming. Read also that some places were banning the sales of Yellow Vests. Ironically, after reading Vexman’s want of French language reportage in regards to the Yellow Vests, I made a mad food store dash before closing time. As I entered, I came face-to-face with a Yellow Vest human (I assume). At the checkout line, the lovely cashier began speaking to me in French. It’s not bad enough being outed as Jared’s illegitimate father but now the universe is slapping me across my cynical face as well?
Did also read somewhere, a name mentioned as a spokesperson for the Yellow Vests in France. This thing is getting weird. Wonder how many episodes for this season? Obviously the Langley sub-basement farmed this screenplay out. Or?
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Talks-to-Cats said:
“It’s definitely turning into another huge fake movement”
OTOH, once something goes viral. it doesn’t matter what the original intention of the people who started it was — crowd suggestibility renders it very subject to local “interpretation” (adaption to local conditions/concerns) & improvisation.
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Jared Magneson said:
I agree with the sentiment of your statement, but not the reality of it. NOTHING actually “goes viral” except actual viruses. I know you were just using a common phrase, but consider that nothing “goes viral” in the media unless they WANT it to. They, being Langley and the controllers who own every major outlet and always have. Social media has no liberty at all – I’ve spend five months this year on 30-day bans on Facebook alone, and there’s only a handful of people on the entire site spouting any shred of truth at all. So there is no viral media – it’s only programmed to appear that way, such as all the fake YouTube hits we’ve seen time and time again or the fake reviews or the fake stories.
But let’s say for the sake of argument that you’re right, and that the Yellow Vest movement takes hold worldwide. So what? They haven’t done anything, haven’t outed or executed one evil person. They have the same power as everyone else who’s ever protested non-violently: none. The only thing that violent, evil people fear is the threat of greater violence. That’s what the entire Cold War was based on – that, and the fake nuclear hoax as its boogey-man.
The Yellow Vests don’t even know who the real bad-guys are in the first place, or else we’d see some of them here.
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Wayne G. said:
I’ve thought about that scenario. Which is why I was hoping those who are from where this is happening and comment here, might throw out some clues, preferably related to facts. The grumbling I read last night (and for months now) was real from the Brexit people. That’s a mess that just keeps on giving. I’m willing to keep an open mind, but these things haven’t panned out well over history. The “improvision” aspect isn’t necessarily a good thing since it clouds sincerity and opens the doors to the spooky frauds.
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Wayne G. said:
@Jared
You’re really into this execution thing, huh? Crap, maybe you really are my only male child. Damn, yet another 18-years of child support.
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Jared Magneson said:
No, I am not into executions at all, as I find them very cowardly. But in all the real revolutionary acts we’ve seen, there’s a great deal of execution and not a lot of honor or dueling at all. Can you think of an exchange of power where the two players dueled it out, in a somewhat honorable fashion? I can’t.
The Romanov families were (allegedly) executed en mass, so we’re told, if we need an example. They also allegedly found and DNA-verified the bodies as evidence. The so-called Revolutionaries just cleaned house, though we know now they also worked for the banksters and were just eliminating dead regal weight, making way for the Old Money to move back in. Old Money being the same asshole Families we’ve seen culpable time and time again, in this case displacing the relatively-new Royalty to resume their control.
If we look at any real revolution, any real “toppling of the despots in power”, we find great violence. Violence is a force for change and often despicable, but in many situations it’s simply reciprocal. A despot that commits massive violence is met with the same, as a balancing act or force. If one force cannot meet the oppressing force with the same or greater, it cannot conquer or depose it.
“The convoluted wording of legalisms grew up around the necessity to hide from ourselves the violence we intend toward each other. Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. You have done violence to him, consumed his energy. Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: “I feed on your energy.””
– Addenda to Orders in Council The Emperor Paul Muad’dib
And yet…
“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted.”
– Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)
(Frank Herbert, from the Dune books)
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Wayne G. said:
@Jared
Was really only joking, but your reply was excellent and much appreciate the thought put into it. The examples provided are also wonderful food for thought and basically answer the thread I later posted, as to a the successful revolution condundrum.
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Talks-to-Cats said:
” I know you were just using a common phrase, but consider that nothing “goes viral” in the media unless they WANT it to.”
Communication channels like Facebook, Twitter &c. &c. don’t bypass this ? Unfamiliar with this whole area but I had the impression that “flashmobs” & such were pretty much freelanced around it.
Be that as it may, it might be that you’re overlooking something important here — Learned Helplessness being eroded. Maybe this time only gives people ideas. But once the conditioned inhibition is successfully violated (successfully = mobs are not machine gunned in the streets), the next time is easier.
Then there’s the effect on the psyche of the feudal lords. Their playbook has few pages, and when one strategy fails their response is typically to “double down” unless they can co-opt it (e.g. Black Panthers by “the civil Rights Movement with Martin Luther King”).
I don’t pretend I KNOW “the answer,” but I can see a lot more aspects to it than immediate, measurable “success.” The American Revolution might provide an illustrative example of the incremental crystalization of resistance from protest to overt rebellion.
FWIW
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Jared Magneson said:
As I said, I do appreciate the sentiment. The desire for change, the NEED for it, and the drive to achieve it. But let’s break this down further, for any other readers. I find your response a little outdated perhaps, if not naive – and please don’t take that personally, because it’s not an insult.
“Communication channels like Facebook, Twitter &c. &c. don’t bypass this ?”
Not a chance. Facebook is CIA-owned and operated entirely, and Twitter is just an offshoot of that. Censorship is immediate and constant. Almost everyone now has to have three or four Facebook accounts just to stay on the site/app at all, since almost anything will get you banned immediately. Like I said, I myself have been banned for 150 days this year alone, simply for stating factual things. It doesn’t matter how “offensive” they may or may not have been, they were accurate statements in every case.
I may in fact be overlooking something important in the Yellow Vest movement, but that’s a value claim. What’s important to one person may not be to another. I’m not interested in political levering, but you might be. Every other social movement has failed and this one will too, because it’s not attacking the correct people and not with the proper tools, in my opinion. They cannot succeed to affect real chance because they aren’t attacking the problem in any way at all. It’s like trying to cure lung cancer with lotion. The lungs don’t even feel it.
“The American Revolution might provide an illustrative example of the incremental crystalization of resistance from protest to overt rebellion.”
Perhaps you haven’t read Miles’ work entirely, but the American Revolution (and the French, and the Bolshevik, and the Boxer, and EVERY revolution of note) was a scripted, managed, fake event. It has nothing to with with rebellion – since it was managed and operated by the same rich overlords that they claimed to be fighting. All the Founding Fathers were spooks, as Miles (and others) have shown us in a hundred ways. Washington was a British noble himself – just like Hillary is, and Obama as well. Hillary is even related to Washington. They are all from the same families, and the “rebellion” or “revolution” was simply performed to make the PEOPLE feel like they were free. But they were not, and we are not.
The French Revolution was even more transparent. If you need links to the appropriate papers for the more in-depth studies, I’ll dig them up. But using the American Revolution as an example of progress is very naive to me, and again, I’m not picking on you – that’s the mainstream answer and I know why you chose it, but it’s still wrong.
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Talks-to-Cats said:
Hi Jared
Not so much value claim (new idea on this end) as trying to suggest that the reality (and potential reality) of mass movements is more complex than the explanation of them that satisfies people.
Sure the Klingons own/control the communication media. But Solzhenitzyn’s works were (as well as by longhand) copied by Samizdat sympathizers on KGB xerox machines (the only ones there were at that time in the Soviet Union). The Feds own the computers used by leakers in the spook agencies — same deal there. And while anybody here has way more familiarity with “social media” than I do, I don’t think the deep state’s organs would be playing whack-a-mole as furiously as they are if it perceived no threat to its control of “public opinion” from the great unwashed. This is probably the strongest case for leaving “social media’s” potential an open question — if there is no danger in losing control of the narrative, why are they so afraid of it?
The Klingons manage by suggestion. But suggestion’s a two-edged sword. Hence the panic mode reactions you detail from FarceBook et al. Being in the business of managing a captive (and exploited) population, like prison administrations, they can’t hit “re-wind” & edit real-time events once they’ve happened. Survival depends on the severely negative possible outcomes not happening. I’m a retired state corrections employee, and only too well aware of the potential dynamics of crowds from many years of first hand experience managing them. The ability of 300-odd employees to control 2,500 inmates, like the ability of one teacher to control a class of 30 children, depends on Learned Helplessness — on those being controlled internalizing it as their model of reality. (“We’re stuck here and there’s nothing we can do about it”). Once they stop living that dream, chaos (from the perspective of the Managers) ensues. Case in point: dustbowl farmers with shotguns stopping sheriff’s sales for back taxes. The Whiskey Rebellion. Shay’s Rebellion. Clan Feuds and Border Wars. Mutinies (there have been several in the military that aren’t common knowledge because they never made the “news”).
To understand the American Revolution, IMHO, you first have to acknowledge and grasp the dissolution of the Learned Helplessness that kept people “loyal subjects” (however disaffected). That’s missing from the view you advance. What changed that? People were just pushed too far? How is it then that people are pushed further today, yet passive? (OK., I’ll spot you Flouride and sex hormones in food & tap water).
(Again IMHO) you have to understand that the thousands of Revolutionary War soldiers were living a dream. (No new thing — we’re always living some dream — often several at the same time). That dream was, like all dreams, implanted by suggestion. And THE suggestor who precipitated it from nebulous potential to gunfire reality was Thomas Paine. (He was the actual author, incidentally, of the Declaration of Independence that Jefferson petulantly wanted to edit into conformity with his Deistic “christianity without anything that made it distinctively christian”). And that this was done by the 18th century “social media” — the press. Once the learned helplessness-based “loyal subject” dream was sufficiently disturbed by enough people putting the alternative dream into practice, the revolution was on. What I think you’re not seeing about it is that, like the Black Panthers (albeit a project) having been supplanted by the Martin Luther King “Civil Rights” Show and their energies judas-goat steered into harmlessly cathartic soap opera “demonstrations,” the “founding fathers” co-opted the struggle they rode like surfers on a wave they did not control (although the narrative of their struggles to makes absorbing reading, this is not “the real story”).
The superstratum of the Revolution — notwithstanding that many Scots involved were also, your “families” leaders were not the movers and shakers. Credit for that (deep denial notwithstanding) goes to the Scots Irish Presbyterians whose ancestral hatred of the English went back 400 years, refreshed by the bloody persecutions that drove many of them into exile here. (People are surprised to learn Pitt had referred to the Revolution in Parliament as “that damned Presbyterian rebellion” and that destroying or desecrating Presbyterian churches was standard operating practice in British-controlled areas). The Anglican church of Britain had been a transparent establishment control device for well over 100 years; the Presbyterians were having none of it, either religiously or philosophically. That was the flash point — one which almost re-lit the tinder when Franklin’s son published the terms of the actual treaty which concluded the war (social media once again), which prompted the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts.
The struggle within the struggle was the Presbyterian pulpit (which supported the Revolution) vs. the influence of Paine, whose vision (dream if you like), if fully lived the rest of the way, would have swept them away as collaborators in maintaining the status quo ante; this was accomplished by dream management (divorcing the “religious” from the practical and treating these as if they were two entirely separate matters). Demonized after the movement he had precipitated into action was exploited, he was driven into exile as a diabolical influence.
As for the matter of “the families,” from 1900 on, every man in my family tree (except the one grandfather I seem to be a clone of) has been at least a 32nd degree freemason; one was a 33 with a (politely declined) KCB for exceptional service to the Crown in WW II (the nephew, in turn, of another 33). Movers and shakers all. I have more than a little first-hand familiarity with the mentality involved (and yes, red flag surnames, to the extent they matter). I’ve encountered that mindset everywhere, Kosher and “Gentile” alike, and reacted to it with the same revulsion, by instinct. Bottom line: biology is not destiny (although it may predict capacity on one end of the spectrum) (and act as a strange attractor).
Kindly pardon the length of this, and any suspicion of arguing or “teaching” as its motivation. I am not the slickest of authors 🙂
“Whatever you think, It’s more than that. More than that !” (Incredible String Band)
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Wayne G. said:
@Talks-to-Cats
Pardon the interruption, I’m still gnawing on your comment content, but then this:
“Whatever you think, It’s more than that. More than that !” (Incredible String Band)
You are the first person, I’ve met (figuratively) to know of the Incredible String Band.
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Jared Magneson said:
I find your assessment very thorough and thoughtful, and thought-provoking as well! Thank you for taking the time.
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Josh said:
@talks-to-cats
“I’ve encountered that mindset everywhere, Kosher and “Gentile” alike, and reacted to it with the same revulsion, by instinct.”
What mindset do you mean?
Also, I agree that with all manufactured revolutions there is a large mass of people who are genuinely pissed off. It seems like you’re saying that in the examples you gave (like the American revolution), there is a mass of discontented people who begin to throw off the shackles of learned helplessness, and then their revolutionary impulse is brought under control by false leaders. It’s possible. But it’s also possible, and in view likely, that in most cases the people do not shake off the feeling of learned helplessness on their own. Their anger is instead aroused and channeled in certain directions. Here for example I would say that based on his biography Thomas Paine seems to be more of a paid propagandist rather than some kind of organic intellectual who helped fan the flames against the British. That revolution seems to have been managed by the same people who stoked it; or in a word, it was manufactured. It is not for nothing that Edward Bernays said that “propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government.” He also wrote: “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”
I feel quite certain that, although we have heard of him, Thomas Paine was one of these men.
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Vexman said:
Jared, I really wish I could see some more of your sentiment regarding the Yellow vests, an optimistic one. On the other hand, I can see where you’re coming from. It bothers me though – even if 99.99% of everything we follow here is de facto faked or managed, you might completely miss the most important thing coming your way in the future.
Can’t talk about FB or any other modern-day communication tool as I don’t personally use any of them. But I still managed to get in touch with what’s been going on in France before any of my “connected” pals did. There certainly is a way to use everything internet offers in our own advantage, in addition to the “older” technology in everybody’s pockets – GSM phones. Nobody can’t censor the entire media and billions of simultaneous calls, unless they pull the plug.
“They cannot succeed to affect real chance because they aren’t attacking the problem in any way at all.”
What the Yellow vests really lack is the very same PTB dream of in a global context – one management team in charge. That would be the single most important thing making a difference on the movement and its reach.
In addition, educating these guys and gals about who our real enemies are seems like the only rational thing each one of us could do. That seems like a proper way to help further the cause. A rather naive idea is to expect any of the possible Yellow vests’ leaders to be as aware as we are here, statistically or practically. That’s where people like us should step in, educating our brothers-in-arms about who society’s real enemies are. But hey, they’re out there in the streets with a value claim about the great injustice shaping their world. That’s why they started to protest, while we’re still talking here. We’re supposed to be the awaken ones, while they’re out there on their own, fighting in the best possible way against issues that are actually common issues. Even the cops on the wrong side of the barricades know that. Since it seems humans are very prone to suggestions of many kinds, I have a great hope that those cops are eventually going to drop their batons and guns once they’ve been suggested for long enough.
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Jared Magneson said:
We are definitely on the same page here, as usual. Breaking their hegemony will be among the most important events in history. I’m just not convinced that protests are the way to do it, even though they do have some effect in some cases. But simply as a matter of logic, if you are attacking a false enemy, you cannot defeat the real one hidden elsewhere. I fear these protests to be little more than whining, to The Powers That Be. They might even be entertaining to those folk.
I myself am quite disillusioned with being a Crusader for Truth, but that doesn’t stop me from doing so whenever I can. Every day more and more people ask more and more of the right questions, and not that I’m anyone special, but being able to give them real answers is fulfilling. Had a guy ask me about Hitler today, who has never read anything we have, and it was easy to point him in the right direction since he was already thinking Hitler was “in on it”. He knew of the Haavara Agreement and other fishy things, but not about the Beer Hall Putsch for example, so it was where I pointed him.
So people ARE waking up. It’s worth sharing what we learn here and elsewhere. It may be a very slow process towards any real change, but for now it’s the best I can do. Hell, being crushed by the Man so hard it hurts doesn’t leave much time for crusading, you know?
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Wayne G. said:
Read Miles latest paper last night AND, it was a SCIENCE paper! No kudos, since I’m still not sure if I understand the whole premise but at least I’m finally beginning to grasp the charge field, so I’m getting better, no? Quell the laughter. Thing is, what really hit me were the final two paragraphs, in which Miles first made the point that the spooks are getting lazy. Secondly they are getting dumber. Thirdly their talent pool is also getting worse, since, the dumbing down of the masses is a double-edge sword. The last paragraph sets up the fact, they never had a plan for someone like him to emerge, nor had they ever had to deal with that possibility at any other point in their past and finally, he piggybacked on their own tools. If you haven’t read the paper, please do and pay close attention to those last two paragraphs.
Beyond Velikovsky: http://milesmathis.com/vel2.pdf
In the course of reading so many of Miles papers, in no particular order, I’ve seen his highs, lows, anger, hope and eureka moments play out in print. I had concern as to where these would land inevitably as people, events, literature, art, music science and history, etc. all got eviscerated. Strictly speaking, not just for him, but for self, also. Surprisingly, it’s had little effect on me, other than to become more conscience and slightly more guarded. I’m not particularly fond of SIR Ray Davies or the other Knighted bad boys of Rock & Roll, but I digress.
I’m not a genius and I certainly would never put that concept out to anyone, but I’m also not stupid…well, science, but jeez, cut some slack here, it was all bogus to begin with anyway. So what’s been going on in my quite often sinister, little mind for years and well before the Miles intro, is how do you break the chains that have imbued us, the lessors, for millennia? Simply put, how do we bust those “miserable little mices to pieces?”
Looking back historically, has there ever really been a true revolution that has succeeded? If so, how? This has been rummaging about in my mind for ages, but what brought it to the forefront was a comment from my newly acquired friend and apparent new relative, Jared MagNooseUm’s comment, “Why bring a guillotine to a revolution, if you’re not going to use it.” Now, quite frankly the whole guillotine approach to me is like bringing a knife to a gunfight or gun to a bomb fight…useless…but…French. He hit a point. How do you attack this issue in reality? He’s correct that non-violence gets you nothing, unless you’re the controlled opposition and looking for a kernel of corn and the governors can see a massive profit margin in the deal. But that’s not where we stand. I don’t know about y’all, but quite frankly I’ve given up trying to spread the word since so few around me even seem interested. Thankfully I’ve always been different, so the humor him thing isn’t anything new or perturbing. Again though I ask two simple questions;
1) Has there ever actually been a successful revolution?
2) How was it accomplished?
And again, yet again, “successful revolution” means breaking the FIBS (financiers, industrialists, bankers, security).
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L Kinder said:
I just read it too and I’m working on making comments to it.
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L Kinder said:
VELIKOVSKY PAPER #2.
Okay, I posted a message at http://funday.createaforum.com/mike-messages/1-110/msg235/#msg235
I paraphrased Miles’ paper and then I added my comments on much of it.
He agrees generally with Velikovsky’s findings, but not with specifics. He thinks it more likely that smaller bodies, rather than Venus, caused cataclysms in ancient times and appeared as comets. I neglected to mention this in my message, but Thunderbolts agrees, based on ancient myths, that there were many smaller bodies that appeared as comets, but they think Venus appeared that way first, and in the message I link to a recent article that says an exoplanet has been found to have a tail after losing its atmosphere. I don’t know if Hubble or whatever is actually able to make out that much detail, but maybe so.
From what I know of Velikovsky, it seems to me that he likely did his own research and came to his own honest conclusions about “Worlds in Collision”, rather than having been assigned to write it. He was a psychiatrist who had an interest in history, which he claimed led him to investigate the Bible, where he started to find evidence of cataclysms on Earth possibly caused by extraterrestrial bodies.
The Thunderbolts folks came to different conclusions from Velikovsky’s and they didn’t understand how he came to conclude that Venus caused the Exodus events. So that does seem to hint that Velikovsky may have been “guided” instead of being independent.
It’s nice to see that Miles seems to favor now the idea that small celestial bodies have caused major Earth cataclysms in ancient times.
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Russell Taylor said:
“He was a psychiatrist who had an interest in history”
A perfect combination to rewrite ancient (virtually unprovable), history with a goal of controlling the public mind set…easy in his day. Throw in the Bible references and you have a very large Christian following back then, who would gobble up such fantastic possibilities (sell more books). Anything to bolster their own strange ideological history.
God did it because mankind made him angry again?
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Jared Magneson said:
This is the chief problem with Catastrophism. Just like any study, it has a distinct bias, but what we see in Catastrophism is a desire to generate cataclysms from little to no data at all, at every turn. The Thunderbolts morons do it, Velikovsky did it, and lots of other people do it too. Speculation isn’t science.
Miles on the other hand shows us the answer FROM the existing data, which is Venus’s backwards, SLOWING spin. That’s literally the only data we have to start with on this particular topic. As he said in the paper he hasn’t calculated how long it’s been spinning backwards yet but with his methods, he’s far closer than anyone else ever has been on the topic. I’m almost surprised he didn’t do so already – and we might expect to see an addendum to that paper doing just this, given his propensity for addenda.
Venus isn’t and never was a comet so that whole line of thought was horseshit from the beginning. I find it amusing that anyone would think so to begin with, showing that they don’t know the difference between comets and planets so blatantly.
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Crow's Nest said:
Consider the “God King Scenario,” put forward by Gary Gilligan:
“Immanuel Velikovsky concluded from his extensive interdisciplinary research that the planet Venus was remembered from the time of the dawn of civilization as a brilliant cometary body. While there is a wealth of literal sources to draw upon, when it comes to the pictorial evidence it isn’t as forthcoming. No images can be conclusively identified as actually representing Venus in cometary form, a situation that essentially shouldn’t exist. After all, it stands to reason that it was naked eye observations that inspired the myths. So, at the very least the imagery should be equal to or analogous to the literal sources – but this clearly isn’t the case…
Have we overlooked something? Is it possible images of Comet Venus have been staring us in the face for decades?”
To quote Wal Thornhill (The Electirc Universe).
‘In the electrical model of the solar system, any body on a sufficiently eccentric orbit about the Sun will exhibit cometary features. For ancient people to have seen Venus as an Earth-threatening comet, Venus must have had an eccentric orbit that brought the planet near to Earth.'”
http://www.godkingscenario.com/gks/comet-venus-gks-13
I’ve been reading through his website for a few days and find it fascinating. Gilligan argues that all of those red sun disks painted above pharaohs, gods and goddesses’ heads were planetary bodies – either the sun as seen from earth through a 93 million mile debris field or Mars or Venus, depending upon the historical time period in question.
Is it possible Egyptian headdresses are depictions of planetary bodies and associated celestial phenomena? Are we looking at cometary trails in the images linked to above? His site is worth exploration, in my opinion.
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rolleikin said:
If I may interject a comment here about another current event …
It is just now being reported that actress Sondra Locke has died. What is weird is that she actually died about 6 weeks ago on November 3rd yet it wasn’t reported until now. So far, there is no explanation for the time lag in reporting it. This is highly unusual in the world of celebrity deaths.
I just thought this was a “current event” oddity that should be noted.
OK, carry on. 🙂
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L Kinder said:
YOUTUBE COMMENTS OFF?
Can anyone tell me if YouTube has taken away the ability to comment on videos? I was able to make comments a day or so ago, but now I don’t find any way to do it.
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Jared Magneson said:
You probably got flagged for commenting, Lloyd.
I’ve noticed though that here, your comments and replies are all over the place as well, and not often in line with the comments you’re responding too? Take some time, make sure you’re replying in the right places, because out of context some of your comments simply don’t make much sense. I have to backtrack to figure out where and who you were responding to.
On this one, your reply had nothing to do with Rolleikin’s comment, for example. It should have been a new thread, not a reply. Just a formatting critique, not about the content of your comments, though I understand the WordPress formatting on this site could use some work.
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Jared Magneson said:
My main point being, as stated in other replies, these sites will censor us at the drop of a pin. If you spread any shred of truth on Alphabet’s (Google’s) sites which include YouTube, you will be shut down. Same with Facebook, Twitter, or any other site owned by the spooks. That’s why this site exists in the first place – we cannot talk about these things in the intelligence-sponsored mainstream sites. Even Reddit has been highly compromised and infiltrated. This site cannot last forever but in the meanwhile, many of use can learn a great deal, so I think Josh’s endeavor is worthwhile.
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L Kinder said:
Okay, thanks. It looks like I’m able to comment again today at YouTube.
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Wayne G. said:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/dec/14/sondra-locke-a-charismatic-performer-defined-by-a-toxic-relationship-with-clint-eastwood
https://jezebel.com/this-is-how-a-woman-gets-written-out-of-her-own-obituar-1831097072
In simple terms, she was blackballed by the darling Clint Eastwood. The links above fill in some of the “known” details. The Hollywood Reporter’s original headline called her the “embittered ex of Clint Eastwood,” or some such thing, without actually naming her. Don’t frequent the site of the second link, but my daughter is in the “business” so sometimes I wander into places I dislike to stay abreast of the garbage pile. Locke is also not the only Hollywood starlet whose death was reported months after it happened this year. They obviously weren’t part of the “cast of characters.”
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L Kinder said:
This video is rather amazing: Exposing Mans Hidden Past ~ A Mystery History Special
Here’s the transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTw76T1m7vNdu-Sy3P1WzJboLeJ7St7JL71xJbnrOxwA2YE-i6DqTXTRUx_yxRa30pvz4CZlOCuCxCX/pub
It says there were at least 2 previous civilizations, which he explains how to identify, and he says his findings and those of other investigators are suppressed by the mainstream and he seems to hint that the ruling class has been suppressing truth maybe since ancient times.
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Jared Magneson said:
I read the entire thing and watched the video, and found it to be utterly devoid of content, explanation, evidence, or any scientific purpose. In the final “chapter”, he says:
“Overwhelming proof of multiple lost civilisations.”
And that’s his only proof – his statement that he showed us overwhelming proof. There was none. Nothing he said or shows gave us anything remotely like proof or even evidence, and his blatant misunderstanding of architecture was also amusing.
“From a very young age, I had established that not only was Cheops the biggest mystery on earth. But the only pyramid with chambers, eight sides, and was completely unexplained.”
He’s talking about the Pyramid of Khufu (Cheops), which very obviously has only four sides. Not being able to count to four is a huge detriment in such studies and in this case was my first red flag. One MIGHT attempt to argue that the bottom is a fifth side, but that’s a bottom, not a side at all, by the very definitions of these words. On top of that, he doesn’t know what commas are or how to form sentences. Incredible.
More blatant misdirection. We have no proof of either of the two fabled civilizations the guy alleges to, only a CLAIM of proof with no meat to it whatsoever.
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Josh said:
Jared, you might very well be right about the video. I haven’t watched it and given what your two-thumbs way down review, I can’t imagine I will. But, for the record, the Khufu pyramid actually is eight sided. Each of the four sides looks like a single plane from a distance, but when studied more closely each side is actually two with a very small angle separating the two planes on each side:
https://hiddenincatours.com/great-pyramid-of-giza-why-does-it-have-8-sides-not-4/
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Jared Magneson said:
Well then I sit, corrected! I had never seen that, presented so. Not sure if I’d still call that 8 sides, but it could just me being recalcitrant.
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Josh said:
Not sure I’d call it 8 sides, either. But he’s not exactly wrong in doing so.
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rolleikin said:
Though I didn’t care much for this particular presentation due to its lack of specific evidence, I have seen at least some evidence in other presentations that earlier civilizations may have existed and I find the idea intriguing. For example, artifacts discovered that are much older then conventional science dictates as being possible.
However, these waters have been muddied by spooks like Graham Hancock as well as the “Ancient Aliens” comedy team and others to the point that the subject often draws more ridicule than serious consideration. This alone makes me suspect there is something to it, otherwise why would they bother to make it look silly?
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Jared Magneson said:
I have no doubt there were earlier civilizations, since that is what we find time and time again with more and more research. The timelines keep getting pushed back, and humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years if not a few million, if we can rely on the mainstream at all. We cannot, but it seems likely to me that we’re really not only as old as our current culture. Fossil evidence as well shows us that we’re much older, but again it’s best to remain suspect.
Ours is simply the first to do so much damage to the Earth as to actually matter. No other species we know of has done what we’re doing to her. It’s obscene.
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L Kinder said:
I believe fossils are only found in sedimentary rock strata, or at least there’s very little in other rock types. Sedimentary rock strata average over a mile deep on the continents, with very little on the sea floors. Some land surfaces have none, apparently due to sheet erosion, meaning erosion by sheets of water instead of streams.
There are said to be 6 megasequences of sedimentary rock strata. The strata in each megasequence were apparently all deposited at once, since the strata are conforming, with very little if any erosion evident in the strata. Guy Berthault found that conforming strata seem to be formed only from flooding. John Baumgardner (a creationist I think) and his team of geologists (?) found that the megasequences seem to be best explained by a large body orbiting the Earth on an elliptical orbit with a period of about a month for half a year or so. Tides would have been raised on Earth as the body reached perigee, which would have produced megatsunamis, which formed nearly all of Earth’s present sedimentary rock strata. Therefore, all of the fossils would have formed during that half year or so period.
The ancients left some records of many cataclysms including probably some of dinosaurs. Dinosaur bones have been C14 dated from 40,000 to about 20,000 years ago. Coal and diamonds have also been C14 dated to similar ages.
Miles actually agrees in the latest Velikovsky paper that cataclysms have likely occurred in ancient times. Quetzlcoatl appears to be a representation of Venus as a comet. I’m not biased, but the preponderance of evidence I’ve gathered suggests that cataclysms truly occurred and more recently the evidence for former advanced civilizations has increase a lot.
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Jared Magneson said:
Hmm, I’m not sure why you don’t think there’s a lot of sediment on the sea floors, since that’s almost entirely what we find.
“Sea-floor sediments (and sedimentary rocks) can range in thickness from a few millimetres to several tens of kilometres. Near the surface, the sea-floor sediments remain unconsolidated, but at depths of hundreds to thousands of metres (depending on the type of sediment and other factors) the sediment becomes lithified.”
And: “There are three kinds of sea floor sediment: terrigenous, pelagic, and hydrogenous.” Igneous rock is of course all over as well, due to vulcanism.
L Kinder: “Therefore, all of the fossils would have formed during that half year or so period.”
So all fossils we’ve seen are simply a 6-month cross section of the world’s flora and fauna? That can’t be what you mean.
L Kinder: “There are said to be 6 megasequences of sedimentary rock strata. The strata in each megasequence were apparently all deposited at once, since the strata are conforming, with very little if any erosion evident in the strata.”
Do we find fossils in all 6 sequences? I agree that the timelines we’re told in the mainstream are likely erroneous, if not outright falsified. Those guys can barely count to ten, much less form any decent theories. You are right to look outside the deadstream for real answers.
I’m not opposed to cataclysms in any way, or catastrophes, since we see them constantly and consistently even now. I live by Mt. St. Helens and saw it’s effects shortly after the eruption; there’s no doubt in me that was exactly what they said it was, and I live even closer to Mt. Rainier (the tallest volcano in the contiguous United States) which is much larger and has much more potential for damage. Often when life throws me curve I’ll shake my fist at it and scream, “Pompeeeeiiiii!” into the sky for dramatic effect, but that’s another story. 🙂
My point would be that Velikovsky appears to have no actual evidence of cataclysms other than stating that they were possible. I haven’t read his work though, so if I’m way off I apologize. He seems to me like an armchair type, not someone who would go out in the field and actually study geology. I’ve been studying Mt. Rainier for 30 years now myself, not that it’s gotten me anywhere.
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cancelled said:
A British houseguest has recently arrived from England to visit for the holidays, a passionate Brexiteer ranting on and on in despair about the Brexit betrayal by the government, and the lying duplicity of Prime Minister Theresa May.
From the moment he got into the car at the airport, he proceeded to bend my ear in outrage about the ongoing fiasco Brexit has been since a 17.5 million majority voted to leave nearly two years ago, and who have been on a roller coaster ride ever since — a fiasco driven by an ANTI BREXIT PM in charge of negotiating Britain’s exit strategy from the EU that she herself, and a majority of her appointed cabinet, is opposed to.
It became irrelevant to me that he was focused on the monkey rather than the organ grinder — because in that respect he is in the majority — when he punctuated his outrage with a very sincere question:
“If you’ve lost your faith in government, who do you turn to?”
A significant question on its own level. But it raised another question for me: is this in itself an agenda — to push despairing citizens to turn to something different than their governments in whom they have completely lost their faith? And what might that different thing be?
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ihatestarwars said:
One of the sayings of the anti-brexiteers was ‘we pay the government to make these decisions on our behalf’, like they (the politicians) are gods and always do what’s best for us.
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Russell Taylor said:
If the UK government were planning to Brexit as part of the families grand plan, then that is what they will do. Voting doesn’t make a difference, it simply tells them about the public’s opinion on all the policies the different party’s have put forward during the election or other voting process. The next Prime Minister is already being educated to fulfil their role while still a teenager….born to rule and all that.
All this media frenzy over the past two years is part of the plan. When the public are fed up and shit-scared they will offer us something that we would normally turn down. But we’ll be in such an emotional mess we’ll accept it without question. That’s how the nudge factor works. You are seeing it being used to some great advantage in the run up to Brexit.
I wonder what they have in store?
Economy deliberately made to tank so taxes go up, food prices go up, fuel prices go up, inflation at 1970s levels, and they can blame the whole lot on a few million who actually voted to Brexit. I’ve watched the numbers going to vote and hardly anyone ever bothers. The numbers they’ll quote are a different matter entirely.
They blame us for destroying the planet and half the species on Earth with a minuscule amount of a trace gas. They will blame us for everything that occurs after Brexit too, I’m sure of that.
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Crow's Nest said:
“A significant question on its own level. But it raised another question for me: is this in itself an agenda — to push despairing citizens to turn to something different than their governments in whom they have completely lost their faith? And what might that different thing be?”
One conspiracy theory making the rounds is this: the erosion of trust in national governments is being used to pave the way for supranational governance. Although how any body politic would come to view global governance as the answer to failing national governance is beyond me. Perhaps that particular conversion of faith would require a modern-day Edward Bernays.
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Josh said:
“the erosion of trust in national governments is being used to pave the way for supranational governance.”
I’ve just left a long comment answering cancelled question, too. What you’re saying makes sense, except that in much of Europe, at least, they are eroding trust in national government aligned with the goals, policies and ideology of the EU and UN, which are the only supranational governments around. So by eroding trust in existing national governments, they are eroding trust in those supranational ones. Unless they’ve got a surprise lurking behind door number 3 in the form of some kind of overtly fascist dictator like Hitler (except one who builds his popularity on hatred of Muslims rather than Jews). But then we see that trends in the US with eroding trust in Trump among the segment of the population that would also most likely embrace supranational governance along the lines of the UN runs against what they seem to be doing in (most of) Europe.
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Jared Magneson said:
“If you’ve lost your faith in government, who do you turn to?”
Easy answer. “If you ever had faith in your government, you were a fool to begin with. You turn to yourself, and to your neighbors, and your fellows in ideology and lifestyle. Grow some goddamn balls and quit licking their boots.”
That’s what I say to my mother at Christmas dinner, anyway. (joking!)
Governments only exist to steal money for the banks that own them. They “are a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business”. It has been this way since tribalism died, since the first fat lazy people put the food under lock and key back at the dawn of our culture. Some of the old cultures still exist, such as the Maori or the Eskimo people in Alaska and the Yukon, but OUR culture doesn’t allow for real governments, only puppets. Governments are just the branding, the marketing department of massive extortion.
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Josh said:
It’s a great question, cancelled, and something I have puzzled over myself. We can see with the (artificially and deliberately created and directed) migration crisis in Europe that there is a deliberate attempt to make the government completely lose legitimacy in the eyes of a large portion of the population. You have all those fake stories of white European women getting raped by hordes of Muslim men (like the 2016 New Year’s celebration allegedly run amok in Cologne and elsewhere in Germany). You have a cultural conflict pushed on the people of Europe by the powers that be. And the people who object to what’s happening find their governments are fully complicit in what’s happening. They hear that the (fake) rape statistics are being lowered or ignored by their elected officials and civil servants (both in country and at the EU level); that migrant criminals and sexual predators are being treated with velvet gloves. I’m not saying the impact that the migrants have on the existing population isn’t real (though some of it is faked), but it is certainly inflamed and exaggerated well out of proportion and this is being done on purpose.
And one of those purposes, it seems to me, is to undermine the legitimacy of the sitting governments. But those sitting governments are working hard to bring the globalist new world order vision into fruition, presumably as part of some larger plan (as seen for example on the website of the World Economic Forum that cancelled linked to earlier). And so the puzzle: why would they be working to undermine that plan? One possibility is that the groundwork is being laid for people to turn against their democratically selected governments in favor of overtly fascist right wing strongmen who will rule with an iron fist and come down hard on the migrants and other miscreants. I recently spoke to someone from Denmark who said that her grandmother who was alive in the 30’s said that today’s discourse in Denmark is very similar to what it was back then when everything turned very dark. Or maybe they are just doing it to ratchet up the tension to a boil and just sort of keep it there. Maybe they’re trying to see just how far they can push people. Maybe they’re trying to teach people that there is nothing they can do.
And then if we move across the pond to consider the US case, we’ve got a similar case where they seem to be trying to undermine the legitimacy of the government in the minds of a great number of people, except in that case they are stirring up the left rather than the right (though I realize there are very right wing leaders in some European who are riling up the left). So (and here I speak in generalities) if in Europe they are working to delegitimize the “left” because they want to usher in leaders like Trump, then why in the US are they working to delegitimize the “right” in order to blackwash Trumpism and presumably usher in leaders like now sit at the head of the major European governments? I don’t get it.
Maybe I’ve grasped at conclusions I shouldn’t or made assumptions I shouldn’t. Maybe they don’t care if many or most people think the government has no legitimacy and it’s all just about the creation of chaos and tension to keep us pointing fingers and keep our eyes off the fact that no matter who you vote for, the rich stay rich, the poor stay poor, and the bombs never stop.
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R T said:
A statistic that I keep hearing in the supposedly alternative media venues is that 13% of the population (African Americans) commit over half of the non white-collar crime (rapes, homocide, theft, blah, blah). Given that I haven’t trusted any government statistics since I began reading Miles’ work, I’m wondering just how fake these types of stats are? Folks like Molyneux are diverting the rage that should be directed towards those who run our country from behind the curtain and onto the black population of the US, as well as the latin Americans. They want you so absorbed by this rage that you are consumed by racial identity and statistics. I think this type of propaganda is only effective because these figures used to speak sense about subjects like 9/11 truth and other topics. Slowly but surely though, they begin to filter out all of the truth from their content and slip in the poisoned frosting.
I wonder how fake those statistics are? It wouldn’t surprise me at all were these statistics skewed towards that way, just looking at the jail populations alone, although I think the extent to which it occurs has been massively inflated for the purpose of fomenting a civil war (or so they hope).
You have these people like Molyneux whose entire channels are now dedicated to supporting Donald Trump and reciting race statistics, and then layering in lies about these faked mass shootings and other events like Trayvon Martin.
How do people still listen to frauds like Alex Jones? Have you guys listened to one of his recent broadcasts? It feels like you’re living in an alternate universe if you compare it to his old stuff. I can’t think of any better proof that they’re managed assets than to compare 2001 Jones to 2018 Jones. It’s some redpilling stuff.
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Josh said:
I happen to know a fair amount about how slippery crime statistics are. It’s very difficult to determine the race of the perpetrator of most crimes, and even when you can there are all sorts of reporting problems. One statistic I do view as fairly reliable is that through the 80’s and 90’s, somewhere between 20-30% of all aggravated assaults were committed by blacks, while somewhere between 45-55% of robberies were committed by blacks.
But of course, once you start to try to factor in the harms caused and money stolen by greedy white industrialists and bankers, there is really no comparison. A useful book on that latter point is Jeff Reiman’s The Rich Get Richer and the Poor Get Prison. The main problem I have with that book is it the argument sort of implies that what we need is more prison for the rich, not just the poor. So more prison overall, basically. Which is not something I agree with.
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Josh said:
Just to add, I agree with the idea that crime statistics are often made up and/or manipulated.
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Cory W. said:
Just another Problem-Reaction-Solution tactic used to steer the masses toward their desired result.
There is a book titled “Prospect for America: The Rockefeller Panel Report.”
This book apparently was the product of a 1956 Rockefeller Brothers Fund effort known as the Special Studies Project. It basically lays out the blueprint for what is going on now with this “BRICS” New World Order Alliance. Substitute America for any nation or bloc.
Disclaimer: Heavy despinning is needed if one decides to read it.
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